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Krall Amarr
Aquilae Stellaris
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:40:00 -
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Story from Yogos Fs scout/prober on buzzard:
(sorry for bad english )
Story is simple:
After jumping to system i saw Hel on scanner. He was near station scooping industrials.
Then Hel start moving in the system and I follow her. She was at pos and later warped. First i think that to another pos near planet V but he move to SS. I hit probe and find Hel and Thanatos uncloaked very close each other on ss.
Our FC take decision and our gang move very quickly from BKG to S-E (it's 8 jump).
After finding them i was move 10 km to MS and w8 cloaced alinged to MS. Thanatos warped and MS stay at SS cloaked.
Rzr got traped pilots in BKG pos so they must give intel that our gang is moving but MS pilot ignore it.
When our gang was in position i decloaked MS and our pilots do the rest.
thx to all F4tal.Fallen Souls.Mpire.Cow for that nice kill!
http://www.ioncore.org/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=9472
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Kappas.
Galaxy Punks
O X I D E
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Kappas. on 01/09/2007 17:46:01
Unluck Razor and well done Fallen Souls.
Edit: I apparently fail at spelling.
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Yogos
GBTeam
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:45:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Yogos on 01/09/2007 17:45:48
Not only Fs, great job do our FC and CoW Fatal M.pire friends. They move like wind and hit good.In gang was over one hundred plp bad luck that on KM is only 20 :/ all should be there.
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ShaffGT
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:45:00 -
[4]
nice job to all :)
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Gunship
Amarr
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:46:00 -
[5]
Nice to see a post by a Main.
Would like all Fatal to remain respectful, not a nice loss.
Well done by the FS covert ops.
So you want to join us? |
Kaar
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:48:00 -
[6]
moar threads!
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Frances Ducoir
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:49:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Frances Ducoir on 01/09/2007 17:50:03
this ms pilot learned a leason i hope 
gratulations on the kill
*snip* Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch |
Taguchi Hiroko
Xoth Inc
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.01 17:52:00 -
[8]
Nice job guys, congratulations. :)
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Jagged VanEyck
Free Mercenaries Union
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:03:00 -
[9]
Some of the best cov ops work ever. Good work to all involved.
"No drone left behind..."
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Venec
Rave Technologies Inc.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:07:00 -
[10]
I suddenly have a strong urge to slap my alliance executor for starting *yet* another thread on that Razor's MS :P
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:22:00 -
[11]
Grats on the kill, sounds like some awesome 'covert ops'ing' on your behalf 
But, I'm still figuring out why he cloaked at a safespot with plenty of friendly pos's in system 
-X
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Ur235
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:25:00 -
[12]
Lmao well done Razor I guess thats the biggest embarasment if ever you could have one
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LeviUK
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:28:00 -
[13]
Grats bad guys, sorry Razor.
But most of all, god help the MS pilot when Ernest starts typing :D
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:33:00 -
[14]
Holy god that is a terrible banner.
Also grats starting another thread I guess now everyone respects you
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Kaar
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:35:00 -
[15]
 Originally by: LeviUK
Grats bad guys, sorry Razor.
But most of all, god help the MS pilot when Ernest starts typing :D
Sadly Razor turned their killboard comments off yesterday, shame really, they were a fun read.
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hangnoose
Caldari
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:37:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Ur235
Lmao well done Razor I guess thats the biggest embarasment if ever you could have one
It was a personal ms, razor it self had nothing to do with it.
His mess up and his alone.
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Krall Amarr
Aquilae Stellaris
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:37:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren
Holy god that is a terrible banner.
Also grats starting another thread I guess now everyone respects you
no i think i bring more respect if i crash a node by 1000 merlin/ibis whit inside 100 bookmark each one u agree?
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Frances Ducoir
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:38:00 -
[18]
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Ur235
Lmao well done Razor I guess thats the biggest embarasment if ever you could have one
It was a personal ms, razor it self had nothing to do with it.
His mess up and his alone.
i feel quite sorry for the guy but WHY THE HELL didnt he refit at a pos?
*snip* Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch |
TheDeathStar
Dutch T2 Production
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:48:00 -
[19]
congratz on the kill
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fightnkill
Greenspring
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:53:00 -
[20]
Edited by: fightnkill on 01/09/2007 18:55:31
Not really an epic kill (5th/6th MS kill)? as well, defenceless SuperCap.
Seems like the only way BoB and Co. can kill a Supercap is when it's completely defenceless.
Well, I guess a Supercap kill is still a Supercap kill..
so gz.
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mamolian
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.01 18:54:00 -
[21]
Terrible shame to see such a beautiful ship die.. expensive lesson to learn for the owner.
For the record Davlin's Mom was also personally owned, and I hope our side doesn't gloat half as much as yours did when Davlin met his maker.. 
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Attak
Trioptimum
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.01 19:34:00 -
[22]
Post with your alt plz.
Grats on the kill; it is inevitable to see large ships go down in large conflicts. I hope RZR takes it in stride.
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Erik Amirault
Gallente
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.01 20:02:00 -
[23]
Well I guess that's almost something to get excited about. If you are in the alliance's position I guess you have to take everything you can get.
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ArmyOfMe
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.01 20:03:00 -
[24]
first mom kill without a desynch?
gratz btw, nice kill and seems like a well executed gang
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Hugo Splat
Myrmidons
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Posted - 2007.09.01 20:38:00 -
[25]
Originally by: Erik Amirault
Well I guess that's almost something to get excited about. If you are in the alliance's position I guess you have to take everything you can get.
Atleast they can count to 100.
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Frances Ducoir
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.01 20:40:00 -
[26]
Originally by: Hugo Splat
Originally by: Erik Amirault
Well I guess that's almost something to get excited about. If you are in the alliance's position I guess you have to take everything you can get.
Atleast they can count to 100.
it got old already ^^
*snip* Signiture remoted because it contained profanity - hutch |
Gaunty
Macabre Votum
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 20:49:00 -
[27]
Awesome banner.
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Sextus Licinius
Caldari
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 21:09:00 -
[28]
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Ur235
Lmao well done Razor I guess thats the biggest embarasment if ever you could have one
It was a personal ms, razor it self had nothing to do with it.
His mess up and his alone.
Ya this sounds like "we didn't want that mothership anyway" because it was his not ours, p'lease... . Giving morale charity to your enemies doesn't help, no matter who's mama was that. Now you have to hold the field on the next battle just to nullify the effects of this, i'll go get my ship ffs 
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man" |
Will Fireblade
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.01 21:45:00 -
[29]
First of all good jobs guys it looks like a weel executed op.
Now about the kill. I dont get it how a MS can die in 0.0 inside Tenal with no bubbles on it (or there were bubles and i cant see them) or this MS pilot is not worthy of flying one and the proof lies in this thread.
Again good kill.
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Neena Valdi
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.01 21:48:00 -
[30]
It was perma dictor bubbled and with recent changes in the latest patch the dictor bubble upon deploy cancels the warp.
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LUKEC
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.01 22:38:00 -
[31]
Edited by: LUKEC on 01/09/2007 22:38:36
Originally by: fightnkill
Edited by: fightnkill on 01/09/2007 18:55:31
Not really an epic kill (5th/6th MS kill)? as well, defenceless SuperCap.
Seems like the only way BoB and Co. can kill a Supercap is when it's completely defenceless.
Defenseless = as soon as you fit mothership with same crap most people fit on their throwaway battleships... (+ there wasn't any bob involved)
Imo one of the best kills ever(sitting at cloaked ms waiting for gang 4tw)
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I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
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Kaar
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.01 23:02:00 -
[32]
Fraps?!?!
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Hei'di
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.01 23:39:00 -
[33]
gz!
well executed...
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General Windypops
Gallente
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.02 00:36:00 -
[34]
Originally by: hangnoose
Originally by: Ur235
Lmao well done Razor I guess thats the biggest embarasment if ever you could have one
It was a personal ms, razor it self had nothing to do with it.
His mess up and his alone.
What the.... are you serious? I know you guys do things differently up north, but surely this is a joke post?
Let me get this straight. Was it a Mothership - Yes. Was it a Razor Mothership - yes. Was it killed - yes.
Please tell me you're joking here. If not, where do you draw the line? Are the poses you lose 'personal' poses therefore 'nothing to do' with Razor? Or dreads? Are they personal too?
There's two ways of looking at this. Either you excuse away any loss your alliance has by claiming it was just one pilot's property - which is just laughable. Or you just choose to leave any alliance mate who gets in trouble to fend for themselves and abandon them. Which is despicable.
I had a fair bit of respect for Razor.
Just because you're siding with the Goons doesn't mean you have to lobotomize yourself in the process.
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Velios
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.02 00:46:00 -
[35]
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
M.Corp Capital Blueprint Facility |
Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.02 00:49:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
99+% of Razor never even knew this MS existed until after it died, since he bought and moved it pretty much without anyone's knowledge. It is fairly hard to defend things you don't know are there and it is also fairly hard to feel particularly much responsibility for them.
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Lazuran
Gallente
Time And ISK Sink Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.02 00:51:00 -
[37]
Originally by: General Windypops
What the.... are you serious? I know you guys do things differently up north, but surely this is a joke post?
Let me get this straight. Was it a Mothership - Yes. Was it a Razor Mothership - yes. Was it killed - yes.
I think what he is trying to say to all the people who are desperately smacking Razor over this loss, is that the pilot bought that MS for his private purposes, did not participate in any Razor ops with it (check the killboard) and screwed up all by himself in a situation where Razor was unable to help him (or even somewhat understandably, unwilling).
They should probably kick him for it, but you can't really blame the alliance for some of their pilots being both stupid and not teamplayers ...
isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
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Velios
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.02 00:52:00 -
[38]
But we were told that the guy only just got the ship, and was fitting it for the first time? |
Pinpisa Jormao
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Posted - 2007.09.02 02:03:00 -
[39]
Edited by: Pinpisa Jormao on 02/09/2007 02:06:12
Edited by: Pinpisa Jormao on 02/09/2007 02:05:29
You happen to work for the company that makes FRAPS by any chance or sponsor the eve-files bandwidth?
Or why is that you had to put up a 400 MB video that has ~1 minute of content and made anyone who downloaded it install that software to see it...?
I'd ban you from further uploading if I were running that host. Even the quality sucked for that size of download.
edit: Communication has 2 c's. Or m's. I'm not sure, can the op help me? |
NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.02 02:11:00 -
[40]
Props to the MS pilot for "bringing it".
Oh wait...
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Saul Reaver
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 04:18:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Saul Reaver on 02/09/2007 04:20:41
Grats guys! well Done! Full credit to our Cov Ops pilot/s not just on this kill but throughout the conflict between the northern alliances they have been a credit too whoever they fly with.
And Retsej i'm sorry about your loss. I hope you get back on your feet soon to "Bring it" once again.
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mr bighelmet
EnTech
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.02 05:09:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Lazuran
Originally by: General Windypops
What the.... are you serious? I know you guys do things differently up north, but surely this is a joke post?
Let me get this straight. Was it a Mothership - Yes. Was it a Razor Mothership - yes. Was it killed - yes.
I think what he is trying to say to all the people who are desperately smacking Razor over this loss, is that the pilot bought that MS for his private purposes, did not participate in any Razor ops with it (check the killboard) and screwed up all by himself in a situation where Razor was unable to help him (or even somewhat understandably, unwilling).
They should probably kick him for it, but you can't really blame the alliance for some of their pilots being both stupid and not teamplayers ...
The guy only had the ship for less then a day, didn't have time to be in OP
If i post something smart it represent my corp and alliance all other posts are my feeling/ideas only and do not represnt the rest |
Jinnigan
Minmatar
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.02 06:46:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
A GoonFleet newbie recently spent $1000 of his parent's money (without their permission or knowledge) to buy a carrier-capable pilot, along with a carrier.
That carrier was blown up through player stupidity.
Would M.Corp be honored and privileged to have this man?
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Central Scrutinizer
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 07:31:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
99+% of Razor never even knew this MS existed until after it died, since he bought and moved it pretty much without anyone's knowledge. It is fairly hard to defend things you don't know are there and it is also fairly hard to feel particularly much responsibility for them.
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Juliette Red
Jags Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 07:34:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Jinnigan
A GoonFleet newbie recently spent $1000 of his parent's money (without their permission or knowledge) to buy a carrier-capable pilot, along with a carrier.
That carrier was blown up through player stupidity.
Would M.Corp be honored and privileged to have this man?
Apart from wondering why he was breaking the EULA  I would pish myself laughing at him for being such a*****. Then boot him for being an ebaying ****
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Heptameron
Gallente
Seven.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 07:48:00 -
[46]
wow... and there was me thinking this was a game.
Weird how the least amount of bullturd is coming from his own corp and the most from his alliance 'mates'.
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General Windypops
Gallente
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.02 07:53:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Shirei
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
99+% of Razor never even knew this MS existed until after it died, since he bought and moved it pretty much without anyone's knowledge. It is fairly hard to defend things you don't know are there and it is also fairly hard to feel particularly much responsibility for them.
I think you're missing the point. It's not that Razor did't defend the actual ship as it was going down - if a player is daft enough to move it solo like that, he deserves what he gets. It's the way his allies have disowned the kill and claimed that it's got nothing to do with them.
What ever happened to loyalty and sticking by your alliance mates?
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Kaleeb
S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.09.02 08:01:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
Heh clever post Vel
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Glassback
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.02 08:53:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Jinnigan
A GoonFleet newbie recently spent $1000 of his parent's money (without their permission or knowledge) to buy a carrier-capable pilot, along with a carrier.
That carrier was blown up through player stupidity.
Kinda sums the goons up.
G.
If Eve was just a game, it would have a pause button.
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Rafaello Cruel
Gallente
Rave Technologies Inc.
Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.02 10:00:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Rafaello Cruel on 02/09/2007 10:01:47
Originally by: Central Scrutinizer
99+% of Razor never even knew this MS existed until after it died, since he bought and moved it pretty much without anyone's knowledge. It is fairly hard to defend things you don't know are there and it is also fairly hard to feel particularly much responsibility for them.
what you sugesting ?
we are not killed razor ms becouse you dont know about his presence ?
or we dont killed razor ms becouse that was private ship ?
100% people in my aliance dont know about my ships and fits on that ships - that means that kills dont count ?
wrong...
true is that ship was killed - that pilot was from razor..
oposite to situation when you camping in low sec with another ms... yes... you killed my shutle by that lowsec ms - but my corp and aliance dos not know about my shutle - that shutle was private.. but you anyway published that km... what that means ?
dont write like lamers.. you are a good pilots
lets fight more 
respect for rest od razor pilots
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best regards
Rafaello Cruel
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Maj'k Lootar
Trinity Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 10:31:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Glassback
Originally by: Jinnigan
A GoonFleet newbie recently spent $1000 of his parent's money (without their permission or knowledge) to buy a carrier-capable pilot, along with a carrier.
That carrier was blown up through player stupidity.
Kinda sums the goons up.
G.
Oh the irony.
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Gods Coldblood
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 11:36:00 -
[52]
Congrats on the kill guys
I still find it hard to believe that people in ship's like mothers and titans log off so carlessly..
Too all the Aliances involed may the best team win
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Kaar
Art of War
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.02 11:57:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Gods Coldblood
Congrats on the kill guys
I still find it hard to believe that people in ship's like mothers and titans log off so carlessly..
Too all the Aliances involed may the best team win
He didnt log.
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V0rador
Amarr
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 12:24:00 -
[54]
Gratz for the kill.
Some guys got too much money .
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Gods Coldblood
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 12:33:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Kaar
Originally by: Gods Coldblood
Congrats on the kill guys
I still find it hard to believe that people in ship's like mothers and titans log off so carlessly..
Too all the Aliances involed may the best team win
He didnt log.
Thats will teach me to read the post 1st then post rofl 
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Bombcrater
DAB
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 13:18:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Rafaello Cruel
what you sugesting ?
we are not killed razor ms becouse you dont know about his presence ?
or we dont killed razor ms becouse that was private ship ?
Nobody is saying that. You guys did exactly what you are supposed to do - kill the enemy at every possible opportunity.
But some people are trying to make out that this loss is a failure by RZR as a whole, when it really isn't. Other than 2 or 3 people nobody even knew that Hel existed. Didn't know it was in S-E, didn't have the chance to try and defend it, didn't have the chance to point out to the pilot he was making a ton of stupid decisions.
I'd have been a lot more concerned if the MS had died in combat, but that would have been a real failure. This is just an overdose of secrecy and one guy who found out the hard way he isn't much of a supercap pilot. |
Deva Blackfire
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 13:55:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Kaleeb
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
Heh clever post Vel
And very bad logic. Personal MS with full corp help etc is USELESS. Because they are usually too scared to engage with em in normal combat (fear of losing ship). It ends up as show toy or lowsec camper (hi D2, where were your moms when you needed em? Taisy?)
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General Windypops
Gallente
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:25:00 -
[58]
With friends like Razor who needs enemies? Lose a ship and your alliance mates disown you. That's got to be great for morale...
Impressive solidarity, Razor.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 16:50:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Heptameron
Weird how the least amount of bullturd is coming from his own corp and the most from his alliance 'mates'.
Let it be known you threw the first stone :)
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 17:03:00 -
[60]
Originally by: General Windypops
With friends like Razor who needs enemies? Lose a ship and your alliance mates disown you. That's got to be great for morale...
Impressive solidarity, Razor.
Nobody has disowned Retsej, he's gotten alot of stick for ******* up for sure and people in RZR never even knew he had a ms before it died. Then again we've lost a freighter and a machariel in silly circumstanses the last 5 days and they've gotten a similar treatment that all stupid losses get in rzr.
Any loss by a pilot flying RZR colours will be seen as a RZR loss so I'm perfectly fine with us just taking the blow head on even if we had nothing to do with it . We're moving on already.
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Twoside
Gallente
Seven.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:02:00 -
[61]
Ouch...
Ouch....
and again, ouch...
Everybody makes a very very very VERY big mistake at least once in his or hers life, ret made his in an online spacegame. Doesn't mean it doesn't sucks in epic proportion though, this really hurts :((
Grats to those that killed it though, you did what everybody would do, but damn, I can feel the guy's pain |
Heptameron
Gallente
Seven.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 19:09:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Fred0
Originally by: Heptameron
Weird how the least amount of bullturd is coming from his own corp and the most from his alliance 'mates'.
Let it be known you threw the first stone :)
Not quite sure what thats supposed to mean from what I thought was an old friend but hey, if it cranks your handle. Retsej IS a good friend, i was chatting to him a few hours before he lost his MS and know what his plans were. More importantly I know how absolutely crap he must be feeling about not just the loss but the bad exposure it brought to himself, his corp and his alliance.
Yea, he should take a rollicking and yea he should have some CONSTRUCTIVE criticism thrown his way for good measure. But some of the stuff is borderline verbal abuse and that my friend just isn't worth it........
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:32:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Heptameron
But some of the stuff is borderline verbal abuse and that my friend just isn't worth it........
Where?
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Gurbeta
Gurbeta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:56:00 -
[64]
it takes razor to disband razor, lol
hangnoose that was very friendly comment man. i know retsej too and dont have high opinion of him as team player (not using ts for starters), he made big mistake when he bought ms, but you washing hands, in name of rzr, that sucked hard!
you perhaps wanted to say that loss want rzr's, that it was personal, but you said it in deeply wrong way dude
offtopic:
always wandered whats with some of finest and now x-rzr pilots in corp seven?
is it permanent or will you go back?
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Gumpy Nighthawk
Amarr
Octavian Vanguard
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:07:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Gurbeta
I know retsej too and dont have high opinion of him as team player (not using ts for starters)
Well if you knew him well enough, you would have known that the guy is hearing impaired and that if he would be on TS that he still would not hear a single thing.
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Gurbeta
Gurbeta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:12:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Gurbeta
I know retsej too and dont have high opinion of him as team player (not using ts for starters)
Well if you knew him well enough, you would have known that the guy is hearing impaired and that if he would be on TS that he still would not hear a single thing.
said it without knowing it, when ever we asked him to come to ts he just said he couldnt.
i appologize mate!
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KillmAll187
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:31:00 -
[67]
I do feel bad for the guy. I hate making mistakes and watching the aftermath without being able to do a thing about it. It doesn't make it any easier for the dude. If you want to see what happens when you lose a ship in Razor, go to their killboard and read the comments. Some of their "1337" pilots use losses as a way to boost their ego at others' expense.
GJ to our covops and FC's through this whole campaign. It has been an honor fighting with/against you all. o/
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Sebo Darrens
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:41:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Jinnigan
A GoonFleet newbie recently spent $1000 of his parent's money (without their permission or knowledge) to buy a carrier-capable pilot, along with a carrier.
That carrier was blown up through player stupidity.
Would M.Corp be honored and privileged to have this man?
Hah! A trick question! Almost slipped that one by us with the details... sneaky
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Golden Helmet
Caldari
No way I'm going to Deep Core Mining
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:49:00 -
[69]
Originally by: LeviUK
Grats bad guys, sorry Razor.
But most of all, god help the MS pilot when Ernest starts typing :D
I remember Ernest going off on me for not having an 8th low slot on my Mega... that mom pilot is REALLY gonna get it
Grats on the MS kill though.
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Jamie 315
Yet Another CAOD Inspired 1 Woman Alt Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:23:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Jinnigan
Originally by: Velios
If a corp mate of mine manages to save up for a mothership on his own, M.Corp is privileged to have him in the corp, and his asset will be defended by the whole corp - to the last man.
Even though a personal asset - that mothership will be defended as one of the corps own.
I feel sorry for the RZR mom pilot if that is the reaction he is getting from his alliance members. So what, RZR stats took a hit - no need to disown the guy and isolate him for an honest mistake.
I'd help that guy build another HEL and get a second bite at the cherry if he were in M.Corp.
A GoonFleet newbie recently spent $1000 of his parent's money (without their permission or knowledge) to buy a carrier-capable pilot, along with a carrier.
That carrier was blown up through player stupidity.
Would M.Corp be honored and privileged to have this man?
Wait, he spent that $1000 on a ship and character instead of paying it to your leaders to live off of?
Also that chat log of that guy is funny as heck. I geuss this explains why you guys send your money to your leaders.
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General Windypops
Gallente
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:34:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Gumpy Nighthawk
Originally by: Gurbeta
I know retsej too and dont have high opinion of him as team player (not using ts for starters)
Well if you knew him well enough, you would have known that the guy is hearing impaired and that if he would be on TS that he still would not hear a single thing.
Well given the abuse your own members have been throwing at him, and that fact that your alliance have mentioned kicking him out and disowning the kill.....
Wow. Fatal rock.
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Shirei
Minmatar
Cutting Edge Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:41:00 -
[72]
Originally by: General Windypops
Well given the abuse your own members have been throwing at him, and that fact that your alliance have mentioned kicking him out and disowning the kill.....
The only people who have suggested anything about kicking him have been yourself and another 1-member alt corp char in this thread.
So stop spreading lies and nonsense.
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General Windypops
Gallente
Skullduggery Inc
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:56:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Shirei
The only people who have suggested anything about kicking him have been yourself and another 1-member alt corp char in this thread.
So stop spreading lies and nonsense.
Do yourself a favour, and read some of the many threads that refer to this loss. You're right - most of your members who are making comments like this are hiding behind alts, but that just suggests lack of discipline within your membership.
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Sister Bliss
The Wild Hunt
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:34:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Bombcrater
But some people are trying to make out that this loss is a failure by RZR as a whole, when it really isn't. Other than 2 or 3 people nobody even knew that Hel existed. Didn't know it was in S-E, didn't have the chance to try and defend it, didn't have the chance to point out to the pilot he was making a ton of stupid decisions.
I had no idea we had any capitals in BKG on Friday night, I didn't even know they existed ;-) I don't think they had a chance to defend themselves whilst watching load-in screens. Retsej had the opportunity to defend himself at least and credit to him for trying. Unfortunately he had no chance. His buddy in the Thanatos didn't warp back in which is no discredit to him as it would have been suicide.
Originally by: Bombcrater
I'd have been a lot more concerned if the MS had died in combat, but that would have been a real failure.
What is *not* combat?
Originally by: Bombcrater
This is just an overdose of secrecy and one guy who found out the hard way he isn't much of a supercap pilot.
Knowing how bad ppl feel when losing capitals as some of ours did during the fiasco on Friday night I'm sure he feels an order worse. I am sure your guy feels bad enough already without being insulted.
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Fred0
Cutting Edge Incorporated
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 06:10:00 -
[75]
Originally by: General Windypops
Originally by: Shirei
The only people who have suggested anything about kicking him have been yourself and another 1-member alt corp char in this thread.
So stop spreading lies and nonsense.
Do yourself a favour, and read some of the many threads that refer to this loss. You're right - most of your members who are making comments like this are hiding behind alts, but that just suggests lack of discipline within your membership.
Dude, why don't you just STFU. The alts you are saying are RZR alts could be anyones. That's the nature of them and most RZR do actually post with their main. That's why we have less nonsensical bragging posts after a won fleetfight etc.
This thread is pretty much over. We/he ****** up, we're moving on. I'm pretty sure Stain is not wanting Retsej to leave and neither is anyone else so you can take your agenda back to delve or whereever your main resides....
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ACHURA CALDARIAN
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:10:00 -
[76]
Sorry for your loss Retsej.
First Many razor pilot like me said WTF do we have a MS what did we lost it where when and then learned its a private MS that many didnt have a clue and then we learn the details and comment on the mistakes as everyone can do and also at the same time we asked retsej how can we help him to recover.
By this cheap dirty tactics you cannot manage to demoralise the Razor pilots you dont know our inner respect to each other and you dont know the participation .
we lost all of our station did we broke down like all other alliances no we stand straight and fight back and take what is ours and will do it always and if you look back to all topics that razor pilots comment all have respect to enemy and not a cheap dirty smack as most of you do we post with our mains we dont need to post with alts
REGARDS
WE ARE THE GRANDSONS OF A THUNDERMAKER NATION
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Hastrabull
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:32:00 -
[77]
all i can say is 'sorry that you lost your new shiny toy retsej'.
on the other hand explanations like 'its private ship, not razor ship' is complete *******s.
1st, how can you treat your member like that? Just cutting off from the loose so RAZOR wont be made responsible or... i dont know? To prevent morale drop in alliance? And what about retsej? Its tactic like in some armies: You go kill them, but if they catch you, we dont know you ;/ shame.
2nd, if its private ship, then from now, all bs,cruiser,frig loss will be treated us private loss, and if you come here telling how good you are killing xxx ships, we will just say: sorry, they are private losses, what you gonna do with it? ;)
Be mature, you lost big ship. sh*t happens, just move on and come to BKG. I had sh*tload of fun last few days :) Best days since like 2 years :) and i want more (but pls give me 2 days to replace my ship hehe ;) )
FATAL EMPIRE COWALITION OF SOULS! |
Cornelius Murphy
Seven.
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Posted - 2007.09.03 09:00:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Gurbeta
offtopic:
always wandered whats with some of finest and now x-rzr pilots in corp seven?
is it permanent or will you go back?
Not necessarily the finest, Tweekant followed us and we couldn't shake him off
However to answer, yes it is permanent, but doesn't mean I don't love CEI or RZR anymore, got some awesome friends in there 
Getting back on topic, I don't think for a minute RZR would disown a player for a loss at all. How can they do anything about something they don't even know exists until it appears on the killboard?
I personally know all about getting stick for rubbish losses, and recall many times I f***d up and just had to take the p*** taking on the chin.
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Free BREE for all mod hacks!
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Will Fireblade
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.03 17:42:00 -
[79]
Originally by: ACHURA CALDARIAN
By this cheap dirty tactics you cannot manage to demoralise the Razor pilots you dont know our inner respect to each other and you dont know the participation .
Instead of actually saying that it was a cheap tactic and praising the respect you have for each other maybe you should work on your trust since noone knew about this MS.
Originally by: ACHURA CALDARIAN
we lost all of our station did we broke down like all other alliances no we stand straight and fight back and take what is ours and will do it always and if you look back to all topics that razor pilots comment all have respect to enemy and not a cheap dirty smack as most of you do
Something that doesnt apply for you cus this looks like a smack to me.
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JonnyWarhawk
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:27:00 -
[80]
It's a ship in a video game. Get over it you annoying *****s.
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