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Torothin Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.02 10:42:00 - [31] why cuz I have killmails to back up my reasoning. you can say look at the date but all I did was take 1 nosf off and put on a neut. practically the same setup just more cap pwnage:)
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.02 11:09:00 - [32] Exept that you cannot sustain 2 neuts with 1 nos. And have almost no cap for tanking. A rapier can kill a deimos solo just fine, too. And is far more useful in a gang. Killing cruisers/hacs (outside the ishtar) with the pilgrim is nothing special, other force recons can do that as well. The pilgims speciality, which balanced out its non-performance in gangs, was killing BCs and BSs.
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.02 13:35:00 - [33] I like the writing style, but not the content -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
DeadDuck Amarr IONSTAR Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.02 13:47:00 - [34] Originally by: Torothin Originally by: Depp Knight Actually most of these so called whiners are complaining about the pilgrim more so than the curse and not one person has come up with a pilgrim set up thats worth it. I have one that O have had success with. But will i give it out? Not a chance in hell. I just hope your sig radius isn't has big has your ego .. or you will pop so fast
LUKEC Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.02 14:04:00 - [35] Originally by: Aramendel Exept that you cannot sustain 2 neuts with 1 nos. And have almost no cap for tanking. A rapier can kill a deimos solo just fine, too. And is far more useful in a gang. Killing cruisers/hacs (outside the ishtar) with the pilgrim is nothing special, other force recons can do that as well. The pilgims speciality, which balanced out its non-performance in gangs, was killing BCs and BSs. Honestly, everything bar falcon can kill deimos quite easily. Arazu... fitting web(and having some patience), rapier too easy, falcon... if you're lucky with jamming, but hey you can get away probably. Pilgrim... i'd rather not decloak. -------- I tanked D2 capital fleet and all I got was truncated Erebus mail.
Royaldo Gallente KVA Noble Inc. Institute of Cooperative Education	Posted - 2007.09.02 14:41:00 - [36] seriously trying not to laugh. these "we are teh leet and know **** about setups you can only dream about!!!" threads make me giggle. 1. shot your family 2. shot yourself 3. die
Dionisius Gallente The School of Fine Art	Posted - 2007.09.02 15:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Torothin Originally by: Jita TradeAlt Originally by: Torothin Originally by: Depp Knight Actually most of these so called whiners are complaining about the pilgrim more so than the curse and not one person has come up with a pilgrim set up thats worth it. I have one that O have had success with. But will i give it out? Not a chance in hell. Right. First you try to tell people that they don't know what they are doing, then when they ask the mighty one what they are doing wrong then you go "LALALALA I WONT TELL YOU NUBS!". Which really adds a lot to the forum. But far, far more interesting, the exuro killboard showed one(1) solo kill worth mentioning, a ratting T1 hurricane, the rest were ganks where your little ship was placed around the same level as the tacklers in terms of damage. So not only are you an ass, you're also full of shit. Congrats. No one cares about your super-awesome pilgrim setup that totally owned a ratting hurricane. But I guess since it was your first solo kill or something then it was a big thing so you had to go to the forums and brag a bit or something. Or maybe it was such a magical moment that it warped your brain about the pilgrim forever, I don't know, don't really care. But some people might think you were making a serious post though, so please, wheel yourself out of here before people get confused. Pilgrims are arbitrators that can cloak, the end. Condolences for training amarr cruiser v. This is serious here are some other interesting kills you pilgrim pilots might like look for something similiar in each kill:) -Myrmidon: http://killtracker.exuromortis.net/?p=history&s=21903 -Megathron: http://killtracker.exuromortis.net/?p=history&s=21904 -Harby: http://killtracker.exuromortis.net/?p=history&s=21972 Theres plenty more here are just a few. And to the guy who said I didnt do enuff dps: -http://killtracker.exuromortis.net/?p=history&s=29702 -http://killtracker.exuromortis.net/?p=history&s=29459 Nothing but facts. If you have questions I can help with the pilgrim if you need to know tactics and of such. So don't hesitate to ask me about tactics. Talk about bullshttng people, so you caught 2 turret ships with 2 pilgrims and ganked 2 other ... your point is? Lemme refrase, show me a Vaga kill, one on one, show me a rapier, arazu, lachesis, deimos, ishtar other curse or pilgrim solo kill, 1 VS 1. Please do show me your uber setup now, i would like to discuss it post nerf because you bsing other people in your posts much like a guy that i saw whining yesterday about a vaga pilot being lucky in shooting down is ab fitted hurricane. And ftr there is nothing special in shooting down a megathron or myrmidon with 2 pilgrims, you had the obligation to bring them down. _______________________ Originally by: Splagada Edited by: Splagada on 21/06/2007 13:51:39 in eve you can break their windows, take over the house, and throw the children in the fire.
Dahak2150 Chaos Monkeys	Posted - 2007.09.02 16:01:00 - [38] You all fail horribly at typing. ---------------- Originally by: "Cyberus" cause its has no sence anyway your brains is simply wont accept that anyway.
Dalanoria Northern Intelligence Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2007.09.02 16:12:00 - [39] Edited by: Dalanoria on 02/09/2007 16:13:24 It wasnt all that great at killing before the nurf, it took to long to kill a good pvp pilot. Try tossing a probe launcher on it and find targets for your gang.It will still tank & tackle like a beast (pilgrim that is).. I havnt messed with the curse, never liked it to begin with as it had no tank.
Myra2007	Posted - 2007.09.02 16:38:00 - [40] Originally by: Riho Originally by: Depp Knight Actually most of these so called whiners are complaining about the pilgrim more so than the curse and not one person has come up with a pilgrim set up thats worth it. 2x neut, 1x nos, cloak mwd, inj, point, rest is up to you med rep or 2 and rest of the tank That is not a setup thats worth it. I had similar setups (but with no mwd) with 1600mm (need rigs for that) and you will just not tank a decent bc/hac or even bs before it wears you down. From your killboard it seems that you do not even fly a pilgrim? How can you suggest a setup, claim it's good without ever testing it in combat or even sitting in the ship? Thats just stupid especially taking your previous post into account. I can't understand how people are stupid enough not to grasp the simple concept of: curse != pilgrim.
Kahleena W.L.A.M.O.	Posted - 2007.09.02 19:37:00 - [41] For those who read this post interested in actually seeing a GOOD pilgrim setup post patch, along with a description of how to use it: Linkage There's my setup from a post about trying using Burst/damps in the meds to try to something new. Good ideas in that thread, and not just trolling like some other Pilgrim threads that will not be named.
Immortal Deity	Posted - 2007.09.02 21:35:00 - [42] Pilgrim wasn't even good before it got nerfed lol
Bodhisattvas mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.09.02 23:07:00 - [43] Originally by: Torothin http://killtracker.exuromortis.net/?p=history&s=22517 Theres a clueless noob for you. I just love the comment on the kill as well.......... Seems deimos was prob setup for ratting. Comment. "This loser tried to pass this off in the Eve forums as a post-2.2 nos nerf kill! anonymous - September 02, 2007"
Torothin Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.03 00:20:00 - [44] my point is the ship is not crap. The people who say its crap are the people who don't know how to use the pil*** propery/
DeadDuck Amarr IONSTAR Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 00:52:00 - [45] Originally by: Torothin my point is the ship is not crap. The people who say its crap are the people who don't know how to use the pil*** propery/ You are probably right, but the way you presented your opinion... well just dont go to diplomacy
Torothin Amarr Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.03 02:45:00 - [46] I will take a mental note of that one thanks for the advice captain dingle berry.
Bodhisattvas mUfFiN fAcToRy	Posted - 2007.09.03 05:02:00 - [47] Originally by: Torothin my point is the ship is not crap. The people who say its crap are the people who don't know how to use the pil*** propery/ Penny just dropped...... The only muppets saying the amarr recons aint broke have got shares in them they stand to lose iskies, so they spam the forums telling otherwise...... Amarr recons are broken so the markets for them is destroyed.
Dionisius Gallente The School of Fine Art	Posted - 2007.09.03 12:30:00 - [48] Originally by: Bodhisattvas Edited by: Bodhisattvas on 03/09/2007 06:24:42 Originally by: Torothin my point is the ship is not crap. The people who say its crap are the people who don't know how to use the pil* propery/ Penny just dropped...... The only muppets saying the amarr recons aint broke have got shares in them they stand to lose iskies, so they spam the forums telling otherwise...... Amarr recons are broken so the market for them is destroyed or in process of. Pilgrims use to be damn good solo ships...gun boats were your favourite prey... even then tho they could still spring a nasty surpise with ecm or something or another. Now your stuck with a flimsy tank with a good chance you might not have enough cap to sustain it because of the nos nerf. dari ecm boats were compensated when the ecm nerf was introduced. Why are amarr recons not give the same reprieve ? Is there some kind of simplistic equation relating to the cry of the carebear and the coffers of ccp in lost revenue when the carebears don't get their way with nerfs and such ? They do the carebear Keyboard tantrum quick step and then go back to WOW. I know of one peep who wardecs folk who cry nerf on forums....... Damn good idea. The Caldari recons were compensated?With what? _______________________ Dionisius - "In Vino Veritas"... did someone say wine?*
Aem White-Noise Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.03 15:05:00 - [49] /me still uses the Cetus ECM Burst / Damp setup on his pilgrim <3 NEUT,NEUT,NOS,CLOAK MWD,POINT,CETUS,DAMP,INJECTOR MAR,MAR,THERMII,EANMII,DCUII ANCILLARY,CCC. And a fine selection of Eve's finest drones.

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