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Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 14:13:00 - [1] Originally by: Map Screen Did you guys just siege their POSs with a bunch of 425mm rail moros? Yeah, but the real stroke of genius was the calvary ravens with the smart bombs. Just don't tell anyone where we get our tactics, we wouldn't want to be predictable :o Quote: keep bringing in cap ships, I am next in line to get some free Cap armor reps. Moloc makes a note to only fit Large Armor reps. Quote:* So it is beyond me why RK persists unless they call in some serious backup. It's fun and um... maybe they know something Quote: Tactically speaking, this is about the perfect time for RK/SMASH to tell everyone that seiging the outpost was all for fun, and that it was really just a roadtrip and not a serious attempt at taking territory. That way when you lose those POS, and we kick out out of the region you can make fun of us and claim you just wanted some good fights. It can't be both fun, and taking territory ? Quote: If your diplos had actually known about the MAD pact...something that I still find laughable to say the least...then you guys wouldnt be whining about this. They knew about the MAD Pact, and were listening in to its last meeting which we thought had attacking us on the agenda, we were abit dissapointed when it didn't come up. Anyway, the point of order is whether prior to beginning all this, if we knew IO was part of the MAD pact. Quite obviously CI just had a fight with Pure. for an outpost in the drone regions, and the big bad Mad Pact did nothing, so .... Quote: Anyway, any truth to the rumours you have asked Tri to come and bail you out? Well they were in TDE shooting us today, so I guess some are in the area :o And the seem to like to play for different teams and be on the smaller numerically side. But I actually have no idea whether Triumvirate. specifically will be coming. Originally by: geewiz Have done a few corrections for you. Perhaps next time you flame a post for it's quality of content you should learn spelling and grammer first? Epic Fail lol.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 15:08:00 - [2] Originally by: CARY FACT: and thinking No way the MAD PACT was going to jump into the Bubble against their Large Fleet, Wait, you know for a fact what the collective pilots were thinking ? Quite clearly we have lost this, if you can read our minds.... Alternatively you have NFI and are making ** up and prefacing it with FACT: FACT: You're full of ** ? Wow... I see what you did there ? But it's cool, the 'lease' came with options right, now if you'll just sign here and here ? Now, good thing I never sleep or I might miss a fact that occurs while I do.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.03 15:48:00 - [3] Originally by: Malachon Draco Umm, you have any idea why CI was not helped by MAD-pact? Maybe, just maybe, because CI was never a member of MAD-pact and thus not afforded any protection? You guys have a website where people can see who the current members are ? Invictus / FREGE etc, it's fairly common knowledge I would have thought that they are members of of the MAD PACT, maybe not something that was known before you turned inwards on The GUARD guys or whoever you decided didn't belong last time. To be honest before about 2 weeks ago I'd never heard of IO at all. First thing I heard about them was, 'so there's this outpost 12 jumps away, 1 tower is offline, another is a small... there are only 6 moons etc...' Was Tre Kroner a member ? Who isn't ?
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 01:59:00 - [4] Originally by: Korah What a spanking for smashkill. Over last day all I hear is "please tell us who's in MAD so we never do this again". Wow, we really should keep this ingame, because there all we hear is 'stop attacking so we can go back to carebearing, please please please'.... Quote: If its in drone space it's probably part of MAD pact (aside of RA/Goon). Even if its blue to you. I was hearing about some alliances chaning their standings after MJ- attack to Smashkill and such. ^ If that was true then there'd be a few alliances breaking their obligation atm... I find it interesting that most members of the MAD Pact don't seem to know who the MAD Pact is. Quote: We don't keep a public list, but you should let your diplomats know it never hurts to ask first, since, hell, some of us were blue to you. They asked as nicely as they could without revealing our hand, and got no indication that they were a member. Now that's fine, you guys have friends, we have friends, and now we know who yours are, but you're still in the dark about ours
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 03:08:00 - [5] Originally by: Krakatau Now that's fine, you guys have friends, we have friends, and now we know who yours are, but you're still in the dark about ours Lol, you really think your security is that tight. MAD pack HC is well aware of what "friends" you are tring to bring to the party. I'm pretty sure most of our friends won't show up unless we end up on the defensive, and I can guarantee you don't have a clue who they all are. And yes, they're blue to you at the moment. ;) Those who you 'think' we're trying to bring to the party, are not our friends. People looking for a fight maybe. And that's the worst kept secret about. It wouldn't be that hard to find out who our other friends are, but you're not going to find it by sniffing around who you think is showing up now. The funny thing is that no one seems to even try to engage us without spies on TS anymore :o it's quite sad.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.04 03:34:00 - [6] Originally by: Garrett Smith Now lets analyse. MAD PACT are the same alliance. Believing otherwise is delusional. If you want sympathy; you will not get it from me. Alliances within MAD PACT are quite capable of having different standings to each other, it's only a defence pact, not an alliance. RK and SMASH have the same standings to all other entities.... Fleet movements are the same etc... so...
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.06 12:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Farham The problem I am having is people claiming kill ratios and kill stats when they clearly have no idea how badly their side is at posting losses. I'm sure SMASH is horrible. We have no policy about posting losses and we don't really care. It's bad practice to look on your own killboard for losses. I'm pretty sure we don't post all the kills either (though I'm sure there's some ego-play going on there). SMASH do not maintain that our killboard is accurate, it's not there for your benefit so we really don't care. Even if it was 100% accurate, it would still be a really crap way of proving anything. People aren't going on killboards, they're going based on what they've seen in the engagements they've been in. Which again, is only accurate for those engagements since people obviously sleep sometimes. Anyway, what is worth more, killing the BS of a guy that has 6 more lined up, or killing a BS of a guy that is now out ratting in a cruiser ;) Losses are not so important unless they prevent people from fielding ships again. Morale is so much more important. Quote: smashkill, you guys have lost 30bn isk in ships and pretty much all of the EU tz fleet battles against people you view as carebears. I'm pretty sure 425mm railguns aren't that expensive ;) Being able to mostly hold a particular timezone favours the defender, we know, we fought off D2/Razor/Morsus Mihi/Pure/CDC & E-R with just a few hundred members between us a year ago. Because they could never break a POS timed to come out in the US TZ. Also 30bn isk :o I love how you get that figure. I'd try again on planet earth. Also try and work out what MADPACT have lost I bet you'll be surprised, but then it's alot of effort to visit 9-10 killboards to get what is essentially a number than means nothing.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.08 13:50:00 - [8] Originally by: Tobias Sjodin Originally by: Dracos Xenos Nice battle report except ya'll forgot 1 key thing... anyways... what ya'll got left 1 POS? AFAIK they have 3, and so do we. (That rhymed! zOMg!) I'm pretty sure they'd have to be down to at least 2 for it to be sov-neutral, unless they have had one destroyed and re-deployed. Because RK's third POS hasn't been up for the required 7 days to contest sov, and I'm not entirely sure the 2nd one has either.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.08 13:53:00 - [9] SMASHKill is now in control of the station, let the ping pong commence :o
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.08 15:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Zachri I think IO is still petitioning :P I'm not sure there's a category for that Quote: I am not sure if the Mods are bugged or not. RK petitioned at the beginning of the week because it took longer to kill one of the modules on a Dead pos than it did to kill the pos itself. The GM Reply. Yes we know its stupid but they just have lots of hitpoints. You guys should know that, we've done this before :\ Basically the mods have ALOT of HP and the small ones have sig radius's of frigs :\ which means bigger ships don't speed it up any. And repping the cyno jammer ??? That's kind of pointless considering there can't be a cyno jammer on in that system for at least 4 weeks now. Yeah, basically that carrier got caught out with the system being taken offline to be mapped to its own CPU.... Why they can't do these things 'before' the node crashes I dunno.

Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.09 02:05:00 - [11] Originally by: Kage Toshimado So SMASH currently has the Outpost? RK and Atlas, looks like you guys got the shaft on that one. Hope you enjoyed losing alot of your ships for SMASH's benefit. Quite clearly SMASH now intends to start sieging RK POS's so we don't lose the station again tomorrow. Of course only one alliance was ever going to control the outpost, but RK have in the past and will in the future do the same for us. Conversely, MADPact enjoyed losing alot of ships for ???? benefit ? I'm sure most people on both sides are just happy to have things to shoot ;)
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.09 22:59:00 - [12] Originally by: Bex Beere Well done Smash, Roadkill and all on aquiring a new home although I hope we made you pay a little more than you expected to pay for it Probably ;) But it was alot more fun..... Not sure the cost in the end was a whole heap different from building one but it was ALOT more fun. If people built stations for us where we wanted them, we wouldn't ever have to build them ourselves \o/. GF guys. I think xxDeathXx are just here because they heard Miz had a Nyx for sale, and they still don't quite get the fact that he was in our alliance for the whole of about 2 weeks 9 months ago.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.13 16:20:00 - [13] Edited by: Moloc on 13/09/2007 16:20:26 Originally by: Tetra gramaton What amazes me with these guys they take the station and they think the battle is over? The battle has been going back and forth you know that today, the bug was fixed that cost us the station.. Did you mention that. No that would make you not look as tough. This War isnt over by any means. In some ways its esculating. You won some ground yes but you havent won the war. Hmmmm maybe you are related to George Bush?? No actually the war is over not because we took the station, but because we took the station while fighting the entire MAD Pact. And now the only ones left fighting are IO and FREGE. Now there will be pew pew all round I'm sure, but if you can't defend an outpost with 6-9000 pilots and quite a few competent PvPer's, you're not going to have much luck taking it back with 3000 industrialists....
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.14 16:31:00 - [14] Originally by: Dracos Xenos You didn't have enough ppl? This was right after the big node bomb, and when everyone got relogged local was at 300+ and there was only 100 of us at the POS when it dropped reinforced... but to our confused and bewielder result ya'll never attacked the POS just went and repped your cyno jammer.. wierdest night in eve ever! The wierd bit was without actually killing the tower, they were destined to have the cyno jammer offlined automatically anyway.... so repping it instead of killing the tower was an interesting choice... Quote: There was a failure on many parts, including CCP Funny, that's what RATEL said when we took their outpost 'it was CCP's fault'. If you come down to blaming CCP for your mistakes, you have already lost. Alliances make mistakes, they can still go on, but if they try and absolve themselves from blame, they'll never get anywhere. Quote: the bugged (if thats what you call it, I wasnt entirely clear on that from when we petitioned it) resists, . They do take hours to remove, longer than the POS, and it's actually nothing to do with the resists, it's to do with the fact that small guns have a 30m sig radius, and cannot even be painted. :( So you will do reduced damage with large and even medium guns, and it will 'look' like there are resists applied to the untrained eye.

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