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Jay Deah
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Jay Deah on 02/09/2007 22:00:31
 Originally by: Angelik'a
Originally by: Xantia Gedur
It's actually pronounced "schim-i-tar"
And Deimos - in most modern languages it would probably pronounced "Die-moss" as the ei sound usually makes an "i" and ie makes for an "e" sound (not in all languages, but the few that I speak 
you sure on that one? can you give any examples? have you truly seized this topic?
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Nanus Parkite
Mercenary Forces
Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:11:00 -
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Most English (subject not nationality) students I know would say that it's pronounced however people want to pronounce it and what it says in the dictionary means squat.
Then again most English students I know probably go a bit faint when presented with a problem that has a right answer 
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Petter Sandstad
Taggart Transdimensional
Kinetic Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:15:00 -
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Edited by: Petter Sandstad on 02/09/2007 22:16:16
Edited by: Petter Sandstad on 02/09/2007 22:15:52
Originally by: Va'sa'ri kofa
The "c" is pronounced as a "k" if its before "a", "o", u" and consonants ; every other cases "c" pronounced as a "c".
In latin.
That does not apply for Classical latin. There every "c" is always with no exception pronounced as "k".
What you have written applies for both Ecclesiastical latin and anglo-latin. But as the texts containing the mythical creature are from the classical period, classical latin is what applies.
So it is pronounced as Kerberus, Julius Kµisar, Kikero, etc. for anything from the classical period (or should be pronounced like that atleast.
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HostageTaker
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:26:00 -
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The answer to all pronunciation problems...
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Charles Schwab
The Charles Schwab Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:33:00 -
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Edited by: Charles Schwab on 02/09/2007 22:32:41
Have any of the hosts pulled a "Zee-lott" yet? I haven't been watching enough to notice.
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Dez Erichs
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Petter Sandstad
Edited by: Petter Sandstad on 02/09/2007 22:16:16
Edited by: Petter Sandstad on 02/09/2007 22:15:52
Originally by: Va'sa'ri kofa
The "c" is pronounced as a "k" if its before "a", "o", u" and consonants ; every other cases "c" pronounced as a "c".
In latin.
That does not apply for Classical latin. There every "c" is always with no exception pronounced as "k".
What you have written applies for both Ecclesiastical latin and anglo-latin. But as the texts containing the mythical creature are from the classical period, classical latin is what applies.
So it is pronounced as Kerberus, Julius Kµisar, Kikero, etc. for anything from the classical period (or should be pronounced like that atleast.
Just for fun:
/me digs out Latin textbook
"A word of more than two syllables is stressed on the penultimate"
"c as English 'c' in 'cat' (not 'cider', 'cello')"
"e as in English 'pet'"
"u as in English 'put'"
So, from what I recall, it would sound something like: "ker-BER-us"
Of course, Cerberus is Greek and not Latin which means that this is all out to lunch anyways.
Wikipedia entry:
"In Greek mythology, Cerberus or Kerberos (Greek Κέρβερος, Kerberos, "demon of the pit") was the hound of Hades, a monstrous three-headed dog (sometimes said to have 50 or 100 heads) called a hellhound."
I don't know Attic Greek, so I can't comment on the pronunciation, but I think this whole thread is pretty silly.
Personally, I would pronounce it "serb". I know everyone understands me when I say that. Give the announcers a break.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:06:00 -
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I'll take swords for 500 Bob.
That's s-words.
Swords.
The ***** mightier for 800.
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Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:20:00 -
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English is pretty liberal with the phonetics. Even the northeners in EveTV sound different than the London area folks.
Since people dig out wikipedia:
Quote:
Scimitar IPA: [ˈsɪmɪtɑː(ɹ)]
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Etymology
The word "scimitar", known in English since 1548, derived from Medieval French cimeterre (15c.) or directly from Italian scimitarra, of unknown origin. Ottoman Turkish would be the expected source, but no such word has been found there. The probable origin of scimitar is from the Persian shim- or shamshir (said to be derived from Middle Persian "shafshēr" meaning; "lion's claw" (sham = claw, shir = lion) ùin reference to the sword's curveùbut this is presumably a folk etymology, as the word is already attested in Middle persian with the meaning "sword.").
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scimitar
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Hait
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:22:00 -
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Orree
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.06 23:24:00 -
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Edited by: Orree on 06/09/2007 23:27:05
Originally by: Acidictadpole
Edited by: Acidictadpole on 02/09/2007 20:00:11
Originally by: Petter Sandstad
A few other mispronounced ship-names:
Deimos: It is ancient greek, where "ei" is pronounced as "ee". i.e. it should be pronounced "Dee-mos".
Cerberus: This is latin, where every "c" are pronounced as a "k". i.e. it should be pronounced "Kerberus".
Await any updates when I remember any other mispronounced ships-names.
Cerberus{sur'-bur-uhs}Greek
The word is originally greek, Kerberos, but it infact pronounced as an 'S'.
sry
I'm always amazed by the poor pronunciation skills people seem to have and by the way even native English speakers haven't a clue how to pronounce common words in their own language.
People are always Adding letters to words...changing their order. One of my personal faves is the "macksaw."
This thread sounds like me on our TS server every time someone butchers a word and I'm present.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.06 23:50:00 -
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Originally by: Nanus Parkite
Most English (subject not nationality) students I know would say that it's pronounced however people want to pronounce it and what it says in the dictionary means squat.
Then again most English students I know probably go a bit faint when presented with a problem that has a right answer
It's the classic debate of prescriptivist and descriptivist linguistics. The former group proclaims that language is a set-in-stone collection of rules that must be obeyed at all times by all speakers of that language, and that any variance is merely degradation or just plain wrong. The latter group says that linguistics is just a description of the way people communicate, and that any accepted form of communication is a legitimate form of language.
The first group would be spinning in their seats at the thought of someone pronouncing "deimos" with a hard E or some such, while the latter group says that as long as we all understand what you mean, it's probably OK
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Danton Marcellus
Nebula Rasa Holdings
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Posted - 2007.09.07 00:06:00 -
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I pronounce it Freh-geh myself.
Rasa is Rasa in singular as well as plural.
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SoulBlythe
KVA Noble Inc.
Institute of Cooperative Education
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Posted - 2007.09.07 01:41:00 -
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Edited by: SoulBlythe on 07/09/2007 01:46:09
has anyone considered that they are at CCP HQ and maybe those who actually name the items and content should give them the pronunciations as they intended from concept?
When it comes to the Alliance names, that too should be provided by those who issue the name so it is correct. Hell even dictionary.com has .wav files with correct ways to say the words. Try opening Microsoft sound recorder and doing it that way.
I think this would solve the whole debate be it correct linguistics or not.
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Zeoliter
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.07 03:48:00 -
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Originally by: Mister Spanky
Also An-ath-em-a and not "Ana-theema".
It is pronounced "Ana-theema". The American version is like "an-nath-ema. In English English the inflection is on the second syllable.
Americans says "Zellot" and the originators of the language say "Zeelot".
You say Tomeito and we say Tomaato and all that jazz.
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SexxxSlave
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Posted - 2007.09.07 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Petter Sandstad
The form used in EVE is the latin form.
and you have proof of this? its an S not a K....if anything im tired of people pronouncing it Seerebus.
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