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Galan Undris
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:34:00 -
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Yep, when did you feel ready?
Counting close to 9M SP and still can't fly a single battleship. I have it planned after I get t2 projectiles, t2 medium drones and Energy System Op V. So probably around 10.5M SP before I get the book.
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sableye
principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:43:00 -
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I trained as soon as I could but never actually started flying them for a while preferred smaller ships (still do) but I;d say it depends on what race you are for example a raven is easy to use with minimal skill points where as other battleships certainly require higher skills in lots of ares to be effective but depend son what you wanted todo with battleship. I;d say at 9 mil skillpoints your rdy for it unless them skillpoints are all in industry/science. Join The Fight With Promo Today |

Estel Arador
Minmatar EA Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:45:00 -
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I've trained the skill about 9 months after I started. I used it maybe twice since.  =AFK=
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Lance Fighter
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:53:00 -
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I trained up battleship at about 5 mill sp. My problem is that my skills at that point were not god enough to fly that battleship properly. Now, at 13 mill sp, I consider myself fit to fly a battleship for mission running, and only if I plan it properly, and know what I am up against.
And, I prefer a HAC for level 4s than a battleship.
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Vienna Gates
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.02 21:54:00 -
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i'm 3 months old, 4.5 mill SP and I've trained for a raven...
happy? 
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Seamus O'Malley
Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:19:00 -
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I've got 8 mil sp, and have both caldari and gallente bs at lvl 3.
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Boomhaur
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:29:00 -
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Almost 13mil SP, still dont have a BS trained. Just mission running in the good ol drake, slowboating it through, training up for the nighthawk, as well as all the other races Assault ships, and than 3 out of the 4 races HAC's and command ships (Caldari, minmitar, gallente).
Than I MIGHT train for that BS, which be no less than 16mil sp I estimate, and another 3mil sp invested more towards that BS training to make me feel worthy enough to undock for a lv4 mission. Dude that Scammer just ninja'ed that Carebare's wallet!! |

Janus Ovellian
Minmatar Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:34:00 -
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:)
40mil SP. Still can't fly BS. I might do it soon though, I'm running out of Minmatar cruiser-type skills to train.
Interesting times await... |

Krissam
Caldari Advanced Crystal Methods The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:50:00 -
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i had maybe 2m sp in combat oriented skills before i trained it, been flying domi ever since ^^
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ArmyOfMe
hirr Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:42:00 -
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I would say you have done the right thing by waiting and building up other skills that are needed to fly a battleship well, if your aiming for the tempest i would say around 10mill sp sound about right.
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bwheeler
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:45:00 -
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i had about 2mil sp when i got my raven... flying it ever since :)
Don't know how you can say your "worthy" or not, aside from having trained the skill or not.
After I trained BS I trained up to Cruise Missles. Sure might not be the best Raven setup that I have, but I do missions faster then in my BC.
Right now I am training for a hulk, but I guess I shouldn't feel "worthy" for that either.
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Deety
VSP Corp. R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:51:00 -
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3 years and 32m sp here, still can't fly a bs :) ______
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Bosie
Caldari Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:55:00 -
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I was in a BS at around 2 million SP. But this was pre-sig and when one sized MWD fitted all!
"There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is ENGLAND." |

Pradi Manaus
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:10:00 -
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20m SP, and I'm just about to start training my first Battleship skill.
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Allestin Villimar
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:42:00 -
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Not sure, probably started training it around 5 mil skill points, but I got it to 5 and still don't regularly fly them even at 9 1/2 mil. Drake is good enough for L4s and I just don't like active tanking.
But I think once you get the BS skill up to 4 as long as you can fit good large modules and rigs you can probably do well. So probably around 4 million minimum would be good if they're all in the right areas.
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NCP S2
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:12:00 -
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Trained mine up as soon as I could. Got BS up to 2 and bought a Raven about the same time I had Cruise Missiles at 1. Somewhere just over 2mil SP I believe, maybe right under it.
When did I feel worthy? Eh, I'm almost at 3mil SP after taking a break for a year, came back in and got a better understanding of the game this time, and I feel worth of flying one right now. Just because you aren't setting speed records in missions doesn't mean you aren't "worthy" of flying a BS. And to all of you who are at 10mil + SP and claim you are just barely able to fly a BS... kind of ridiculous if you ask me.
Fly one for PvP? okay I can see the need for maxed out skills and T2 everything to be super effective, but for PVE? Doesn't take any more than 2mil to fly one and kill rats in it.
T2 in this game is just like "purples" in WoW, everyone thinks if you don't have them then you are no good. GG
-S2
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Sense Offender
Gallente Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:32:00 -
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Heh... earlier this year, I had to leave the game for a while. I knew I would eventually want BS trained to maybe level 2. But since BS 5 was the longest skill train time of any skills I had planned, I went ahead and worked for it so I could leave for the longest period possible. That being said, I have had BS trained to 5 for a few months now and have yet to ever own a BS...
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MyOwnSling
Gallente RONA Corporation FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:19:00 -
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Over 20mil SP and I have Gallente BS at lvl1. I hate BS. ------------- Stop whining.
Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
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Feng Schui
Minmatar The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:43:00 -
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17 mill SP.. and I still haven't trained Minmatar battleship 
Raven FTW
The Beginning <-- crap quality, need to redo, sorry :( |

Boomhaur
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.03 06:19:00 -
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Originally by: Janus Ovellian :)
40mil SP. Still can't fly BS. I might do it soon though, I'm running out of Minmatar cruiser-type skills to train.
You sir have toped me an made it look easy. Didn't think it was really at all possible, or anyone could play that long without hopping into a BS. Dude that Scammer just ninja'ed that Carebare's wallet!! |

Ess Erbe
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.03 07:04:00 -
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Almost 4 mil SP here (yay rookies) and I'm contemplating training up Caldari Battleship to III and Large Hybrids just to fool around in an (inefficient) Rokh that won't go anywhere *near* lowsec for a long, long while. I'll probably do it soon and come up with some humorous use for it, like beltratting i 0.5!
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Karille
Lordless
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Posted - 2007.09.03 07:22:00 -
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I trained it about a month in when i could actually afford one. I used it for a while because nothing else would let me pirate on gates. i don't really fly one anymore though, it makes me feel too slow and vulnerable. _________________________________________________________
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Brolo
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Posted - 2007.09.03 07:39:00 -
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Edited by: Brolo on 03/09/2007 07:39:45 Think I got mine at around 4m SP, at 5.5m now & flying it a lil better.
But what skills are considered core BS skills? I'm flying an Abaddon for missions & picked it for safety/comfort margin while I train (yes, it's sloow & overkill).
I've been working on cap & got that running nicely, tank (getting there), got T2 drones & working on T2 lasers as my DPS ain't great, but have T2 drones to help out. So what else should I be working on?
I'm still kinda new to this & don't see where the extra points should go.. although after watching the tourny, some EW skills look like fun for PvP, but not sure I'm ready for that yet :)
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.03 08:28:00 -
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too early, only lost 1 raven so far though. now on most missions shields sit at 98-100%
love my abaddon though. dual LARII tank with t2 hardeners, much nicer tank than the raven. although my gunnery is rather lacking. thats where i spend the next few months :D
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Shevar
Minmatar A.W.M Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.03 09:01:00 -
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Edited by: Shevar on 03/09/2007 09:03:26
Originally by: Galan Undris Yep, when did you feel ready?
Counting close to 9M SP and still can't fly a single battleship. I have it planned after I get t2 projectiles, t2 medium drones and Energy System Op V. So probably around 10.5M SP before I get the book.
I trained BS back in 2003 when I had 1 or 2 million SP (but that isn't really directly comparable to nowadays). Really you don't need level5 skills for a BS. You do need level4 on the relevant skills though (most gunnery skills to 4, most tanking/cap skills to level4, fitting skills to level4 and racial bs to level4).
--- -The only real drug problem is scoring real good drugs
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Lord MuffloN
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.03 09:36:00 -
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Edited by: Lord MuffloN on 03/09/2007 09:38:15 13 days into my trial I had a heavy missile raven that I did lvl 3's with, and no, I wasn't ready, but I still did do that, it was pre WTZ and good starting chars too.
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Kavol Valarius
Amarr Unity of Honor
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Posted - 2007.09.03 09:42:00 -
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I didn't train Amarr Battleship 1 until about 25m SP in. Now I'm glad I did, because all my support skills were perfect for flying it. -----
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.09.03 13:36:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 03/09/2007 13:38:44 I'm at 29m skillpoints, and I still don't have over Amarr or Caldari BS 3, because I never use the damn things.
Give me the small stuff! 
Originally by: Kavol Valarius I didn't train Amarr Battleship 1 until about 25m SP in. Now I'm glad I did, because all my support skills were perfect for flying it.
Bingo, he gets it.
All my SP is distributed mainly among support skills of all races, meaning that while the number of ships I fly is limited to small stuff, I fly them extremely well and the moment I upgrade into a new class (i.e., Curse last month), I literally can use everything T2 (save maybe guns ) the moment I enter it. The support comes first, rather than after, the ship.
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Depp Knight
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:48:00 -
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Armor Rep II or Shield Booster II Extenders II's plate named Sensor booster II Turret or launcher II's Dmg mon II's PDU II's tracking disurptor IIs Hardeners II's CPR II's
To name a few.
For solo or small gangs you want Drone II's or ew drones.
Obviously you want all your cap skills and fitting skills close to max.
Eg would be adv weapon upgade IV.
BS's are one of those ships if you can fly it right with good skills your hard to go down. Will you lose the ship? Yes at some point but it doesnt feel as bad if you take a few down with you or take that battleship who soloed you to the distance.
Though it never really happened to me, killing a bs who is T1 fitted is fairy easy and that pilot will feel pretty **** about himself because simply he put up no fight.
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Granmethedon III
High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.03 15:51:00 -
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At about 5.5 mill sps. Only use it for pve purposes, general isk whoring etc. Be a long while before I'll use one for pvp.
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Buta Chan
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:10:00 -
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Around 4 mil SP? Lowish SP BS's are still good for ratting/missions. I am close to 8mil SP now and don't fly BS much for PvP, choosing T2 frigs over them. But BS's are money makers though and though.
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Caiman Graystock
The Caldari Confederation
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:49:00 -
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I don't recall exactly but I think it was after a couple of months in game, maybe around 2m SP. I'm now at 7m SP and flying a faction/t2 fitted CNR. Pretty much a PVE *****, would be useless in PVP with one I guess.
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Mrski Okupator
Amarr Cry Me A River Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.03 17:29:00 -
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With Mrski it was around 3.5 mil. Even before I had large guns :D. I only regretted it when lost a few in pfp.
With a gallente alt it was @ 2mil. And those 2 mil were in drones so flying a domi isn't as skill intensive.
But Mrski REALLY wanted a battleship. And now (13mil SP)he can really fly one.
Cry Me A River Inc. We Care. For a small donation. |

Zhett Haukes
Blood Corsair's The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.03 18:36:00 -
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Edited by: Zhett Haukes on 03/09/2007 18:38:10 I just trained Large Projectile lvl 1 in preparation for getting into a t1 tempest. Not touching the ship until I have the gunnery skills all at at least IV and the BS skill at IV though. I won't be flying it much though, probably just for a slightly more relaxing gate camp than the hurricane.
I have 7.5mil SP
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Tensa
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Posted - 2007.09.03 19:33:00 -
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I think I trained gallente bs to lvl 4 shortly after the tier3 bs's came out. I got one glymps of a hyperion and wanted to be in it. So I decided that It's time that I at least step foot in a bs, and a hyperion was the one. This was at 28 or 29mil sp. After feeling how slow and clumsy bs's felt a fully t2 fitted hyperion later(best named large blasters, couldn't do t2) I quickly realized that battleships where not my style. Now I only fly dominixes for ammoless deep space ratting.
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Skurnick
KO Solutions E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:08:00 -
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2.5M SP I've done a couple of lvl4s in it, and it hold up well enough. I basically use it as a slow but tough BC for missions. You can fly a ship as soon as you can train the skills for it, you just probably aren't getting all the potential out of it.
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Insidi Us
Amarr Suicidal Mercenaries The Makhai
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:53:00 -
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I trained it when I had around 2 or 3 million SP. I've got all the relevant T2 skills now, but I hardly fly my BS except for finishing radar/magneto sites quickly. They are just too slow and vulnerable, like that other poster stated.
It's weird, I went straight for BS when I started this game, then to Amarr recons, and now I'm training for dictors. Soon I'll be trained to use T2 pods. -----------
Fight the blob! |

Helen Hunts
Gallente Red Dragon Mining inc
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Posted - 2007.09.03 21:57:00 -
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Over 7 mil SP now, and I still haven't trained for a BS. Now there's a former corpie I know....he went right for the BS, after supposedly doing lots of training for corp managment.... I don't think anyone's managed to keep up with how many BSs he's managed to lose so far. (even lost a few in high-sec) Yes, he does get laughed at when he loses one. Last I checked, he couldn't use large guns, although he may have remedied that by now.
For the amusement of all around you, do not train support skills before flying Battleships.  _______________________________
Mine da rocks, make more ships. Pop da rats, make more rigs. Sell da gear, make more money.
Any Questions? |

Brazero
Amarr Noble House
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Posted - 2007.09.03 22:08:00 -
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After 5 weeks and around 1mill sp. And I was ready 
It was a Geddon, and it was fitted with mining lasers 
Originally by: Rodj Blake CCP are planning to give Amarrians some "oomph"
Unfortunately, "oomph" is the sound one makes when kicked repeatedly in the ribs.
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cal nereus
Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:47:00 -
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Fifth month for me (approximately more than 6 million skill points under my belt). That's when I got Gallente Battleships trained up.
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Lord Gragert
Minmatar WolfKnight Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.04 07:38:00 -
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I flew one as soon as I could. The first time I took it ratting I got jumped.
"They sunk my battleship!!!"
Oh, 4ish mil
Meow - Dan |

Ares Lightfeather
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:54:00 -
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About 5 million sp, and ... I do not plan to train BS.
I'll need about 15 - 20 million to finish my current skill plan.
-- Siggie ! Come back here ! --
Originally by: Victor Valka
Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job
Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
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Rashmika Clavain
Gallente Revelation Space
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Posted - 2007.09.04 15:50:00 -
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I trained the skill when I was tired of running levle 3's in a Batttlecruiser I think I had played EVE for about a year and a half before I flew a battleship.
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Faergardn
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Posted - 2007.09.04 16:35:00 -
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2.5mil, after I lost my Myrmidon to packet-loss / line drop during a level 3. Borrowed the money I needed extra to te base insurance payout from a corp mate to buy a Domi and have been flying it since. Level 3's are a breeze with sentry drones so paying back the 30mil debt only took a few nights (the shark charged me 5mil interest!).
Most of my SP are in drones, so the Domi is great for PvE. Wouldn't take her anywhere near PvP though - I'm switching back to Raxes and Tristans for that, mainly because they're a damn sight cheaper to replace.
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Mudkest
MetaForge Ekliptika
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:03:00 -
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yeah, I'm probably a big exeption in this case. cant remember exactly but thin I was a bit over 1 year in game when i trained up battleship 1, jsut to try out a battleship for a change. borrowed a phoon from a corpmate, but didnt enjoy it a lot(poor skills for bs, lvl 1 heavy drones, large turrets and cruise missiles 4)
Dont make the mistake of thinking I had poor overal skills though, had pretty good support skills(3 or 4 in gunnery, missile and drone suppport skills, fitting 5 for most, cap skills 4) cruise missiles 4 was there for stealth bombers
anyway I was able to fly t2 fitted intys and assault frigates before I even had lvl1 in cruisers. tried some cruisers at some point, didnt like them a lot. Only flew battlecruisers in lvl3 missions if the firepower of af/inty was not really good enough to break tanks on some rats. But found cyclone to be too slow and cumbersome. were no tier2 bc yet at that point. hurricane is kind of fun.
think I was around 1.5 years in agme with 20M sp or so wehn I tried a maelstrom(with better skills, lvl3 large turret and lvl3 bs, support skills all 4 or 5). it was the complete opposite of the frigates I loved to fly. Slow, about as agile as a pregnant cow on a frozen lake. But it's tank and firepower were jsut awesome(compared to frigates wet paper tank and poking stick for weapons) and I absolutly loved it, just like I love flying dessies and frigates.
T2 cruisers and battlecruisers are fun too. But t1 cruisers/bc just plain suck.
----- GIEV custom ship paint jobs!
I want my hello-kitty-kessie! |

V0idz
Herrscher der Zeit
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Posted - 2007.09.04 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: V0idz on 04/09/2007 20:12:24 i'll train BS in about 4 months (i'm at ~20m SP now) - i like my EOS/Astarte more than any BS _____________________________________ EVE is like the "Fisherman's Friend" of MMOs. If it's too hard, you are too weak. |

Rick Thwaites
Pringles Inc. YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.05 02:42:00 -
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I didn't fly mine until I was only at like 2.5M.
Now at over 20M SP, I feel I am finally flying it properly. I have Caldari BS5 and Gallente to 3 (4M in drones makes me privvy to the Domi). --
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Weeka
Amarr Imperial Shipment
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Posted - 2007.09.05 05:00:00 -
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15 mil SP and not a single battleship skill. Won't change anytime soon.
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Cpt Branko
The Bloody Red
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Posted - 2007.09.05 16:15:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Branko on 05/09/2007 16:16:54 Hmmm. I've got about 6.8-6.9M SP currently and still can't fly a BS. I can fly a BC reasonably effectively (no T2 guns yet, which is what's currently being trained) and small ships (frigs & AFs) quite effectively. The plan is, after training T2 mediums, brush up my gunnery and support skills a notch upwards to feel comfortable in BCs and cruisers and then possibly train the BS skill. According to my calculations, basically, it's going to be about 65-70 days before I'll be comfortable flying one, if I decide to go for it, which I probably won't.
I can already see myself setting 'battlecruisers V' after instead of 'minmatar battleship I'.
Originally by: Tsanse Kinske The second you start equating time spent playing a game with lost time and money is the second you need to ask yourself "Why am I playing?". Seriously
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Treher
Minmatar Infinity Enterprises Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.05 16:24:00 -
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I trained minnie BS from level 1 to 5 all at once around 21 mil points.
Right after that I did large projectile turret 1 through 5 finishing it up right now actually.
There is no right way to do it. Although, I think avoiding T2 stuff and going straight to BS for mission running is the most profitable way to get started.
______________________________________________________ I forget which station container has my memory implants. |

Rialtor
Amarr Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.09.05 19:19:00 -
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Originally by: Galan Undris Yep, when did you feel ready?
Counting close to 9M SP and still can't fly a single battleship. I have it planned after I get t2 projectiles, t2 medium drones and Energy System Op V. So probably around 10.5M SP before I get the book.
Well the question is ambigious. When did I feel ready for what? there's 2 sides to this, ready for pve level 4 missions? or pvp? Many people will tell you that you need 10 mil to fly a BS, and being that I only have 6 now, it's really not true for level 4 missions. PvP? yes, but level 4 missions, 4-5 million sp in the right areas and you're ready for level 4 missions.
There's no comparison to the amount of money you make in level 4s to level 3s. Even running level 4s slowly nets you more money than 3s quickly.
So at about 3-4 months you should probably be in a BS doing level 4 missions. The 1st half a month training learning skills to 4. Then basic fitting skills to V, Setup your Tank to Tech II stuff, Dmg mod IIs, and Cap Upgrades IIs. You're pretty much set after that. Take your time getting tech II larges, it's nice for the missions and will make you run it quicker, but it's far from a neccessity. What is a neccessity is a good guide about the missions, knowledge of the mission > better equipment.
As for pvp, a new player shouldn't think about a BS for pvp. not so much because of skills, but because it's expensive. There's a bunch of good smaller ships that are suited to pvp -- Frigates (punishers, rifters, etc.), Cruisers (arbitrators, thoraxes, etc.). It's probably better to practice on those, lose a few, learn some lessons, by the time you actually get tech II large guns you'll probably be pretty seasoned and ready to take the big boy out.
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Kyreax
Deepspace Exploration Biscuit Repair Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.05 19:19:00 -
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started training for Gallente BS at 2 mil skil points...
Now at 30 mil skillpoints, only lost two of them so far, one of those was due to lag.
Then again, no PvP here. ---------------------------------------------------
It's a Templar, an Amarr Fighter used by Carriers. |

Galan Undris
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Posted - 2007.09.05 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rialtor Well the question is ambigious. When did I feel ready for what? there's 2 sides to this, ready for pve level 4 missions?
The question was general, asking what you did, not what I should do (I've already made my mind up on that one).
I do however not plan to do any missions anywhere, a BS would be mostly for speeding up ratting in safe 0.0 and fleet stuff.
Originally by: sableye I;d say at 9 mil skillpoints your rdy for it unless them skillpoints are all in industry/science.
Not in industry/science, but 2M in learning and 1.5M in BC 5 though 
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Adamason
Caldari Gemini Sun Frontline.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 20:54:00 -
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I have the skills to fly one, I actually broke 4Million with that skill no less ;)
However, it's not a ship that I'd feel safe flying in anything other than a well equipped gang, simply due to the lack of support skills I have for it. Right now though, I'm sitting pretty in my Drake, debating that final plunge into tactical shield manipulation V and BC V.
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Gynon
Caldari LEAP Corp United Confederation of Corporations
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Posted - 2007.09.05 21:30:00 -
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I've just broken 6mil SP and I can fit a full T2 Raven. (but no rokh) Now working up my cap skills to make the tank sustainable but other than that I can fly and fit it well enough to solo-run lvl4's semi-afk :)
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Arngorf
Minmatar x13
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Posted - 2007.09.05 21:34:00 -
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omg i was so stupid back when i first started playing...
I flew my 'phoon with small projetile guns and small armor repair and resitant plating for a couple of weeks until i realized i was doing the wrong thing.. ________________________________________________ FORMER!!! I said FORMER Pirate...
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Mister Doom
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Posted - 2007.09.05 22:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mister Doom on 05/09/2007 22:14:02 I have 10m SP and no BS skills yet :)
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Krytie
Minmatar Galactic Builders Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 22:18:00 -
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At about 18 million skill points, I had wanted a battleship. I was used to flying the myr and loved it a lot. I trained to BS 3 for the dominix and then started comparing their signatures vs tanking, damage capabilities, etc etc. Well, after a fit of fidling, I have decided to go for level 5 BC instead of moving up my BS skills.
I have no problems with level 4 mission in the myr what-so-ever. But, with only 5 heavies, the dominix still calls me!... ha ha ha
But, will not plan to raise BS skills, probably for a year or so more. If I fly something, I want to gly it well.
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Demarcus
Revolting Cocks
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Posted - 2007.09.05 22:37:00 -
[59]
I love this forum, the staggering number of truly dumb people just never stops entertaining me. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Adonis 4174
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Posted - 2007.09.06 13:57:00 -
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I'm currently flying a nighthawk. I got the battleship skill for times when I can't think what to train but when I do it gets changed. Currently at 2. ----- I'll be in my pod |

MrTripps
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.06 15:35:00 -
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I had BS 4 months before I had frig 5. Couldn't even take out the larger belt spawns by myself without warping out. Then I decided to figure out what the whole tanking thing was about...
I wasn't ready for it, but it paid for itself many times over before it got blowed up.
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falcinious
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Posted - 2007.09.06 20:37:00 -
[62]
to soon for me. Lost 2 bs because of my lack of skills.
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Partenope
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.07 09:26:00 -
[63]
22M SP I didnt start yet 
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Gilgamoth
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.07 12:00:00 -
[64]
I got mine fairly early on and I was using it for mining, but then that's about 2.5 years ago and before T2 even existed (except the miner II). 2.5 years and 52m SP's later and I feel old 
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Gil
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Kaileen Starsong
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.07 12:42:00 -
[65]
Trained mine at around 28kk SP, not like I use it much anyhow 
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.07 15:40:00 -
[66]
I went for BS as soon as I possibly could. I wanted something capable of tanking the mission rats. I ran a Dominix for months with only Medium guns on it (Still don't have T2 guns.) Then rumors started about things called Carriers and Dreads...so I trained Carriers. I actually finished Frigate 5 the same day I finished Dreadnought 2, when up to about 35 million sp. The only reason I did that was for the scan bonus time of a Covert Ops ship. I just don't like little ships ... they die to easily.
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Testosterone Bomb
Red Ballz
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Posted - 2007.09.07 19:26:00 -
[67]
Started to use my BS for level 4 missions at about 8mil + using a Typhoon , now nearing about 10mil and it just gets easier. But understand that my character has about 2.2 in learning and all the other training was pretty focus into Cap Regen and Capacity , Guns T1 , Missiles T1, Armor Tank for T2 items , Drones T2 Light and Mediums , T1 Heavies and Socials to 4 for good LP.
The level of SP I have makes the BS work well for Missions , but if this was for PvP I would want about another 3 months of training at least before taking my BS into combat.
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Tasko Pal
Heron Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.07 20:08:00 -
[68]
Picked up level 1 gallente bs around 3.5 mil skill points (a few weeks ago). Originally used a domi for mining and level 3 missions. I've since trashed two domis. Ganked in low sec while solo mining (bad tactics and setup on my part) and once in a level 4 mission when I waited too long to warp out.
I'm at the stage where I can slowly chew through level 4 missions (with tech 1 gear). And it'd probably be a good low sec mining ship when operating in a group. Also, the slots of a domi (and price) make it a nice choice for doing a variety of goofy experiments (eg, making a high velocity domi, playing with lots of EW, piles of drone modules, finding out what salvage you can get from a domi, etc).
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Michelson Morley
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Posted - 2007.09.10 12:07:00 -
[69]
One has to ask what one wants to use a BS for. If you are going to go for PVP, then you had better have good skills or you are going to lose a pricy ship (compared to a cruiser).
If you are looking to make money by running missions, then I think that getting a BS asap is a good plan. A BS, even in the hands of a pilot with few skill points, is overkill for a level 3 mission. And even with few sp, one can still take most L4 missions.
I started out as a miner, so I had some SP put into drones (to defend my barge). So it was a logical segue to buy a drone BS (dominix). I have almost no points in gunnery/missiles - it's all in tanking and drones. I was able to run L4 missions only a few months into the game. Even now, I only have 8mil SP and have been doing missions for months and months.
MM
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Acacia Everto
Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 00:21:00 -
[70]
When I was very low SP, I flew a Raven in PvE. Never bothered getting Caldari Battleship over 2, and it still makes for a fine ratting ship. When I rolled into the PvP scene I took the time and flew a Myrmidon until I had a T2 tank and good drone skills. I then started flying a Dominix, which is rather skillpoint forgiving. At a higher SP I have great fun in it still. This account won't be flying a Megathron or Hyperion due to the course it'll be taking, but after spending time on guns can do so capably.
My other PvP character flies a Hurricane very well now, and at about 8-9m SP will be able to hop into a Tempest and stand toe to toe with other battleships quite easily, having supports and T2 modules across the board. Specialization is the key there, almost everything he's trained has directly benefited a future Tempest build making him viable in PvP with a battleship.
I'd have to say about 10-15m SP in fairly focused skills to fly a battleship in PvP, 3-5m for PvE.
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Satura
Caldari Mucho Dolor The Insomniacs
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Posted - 2007.09.11 07:22:00 -
[71]
At 2 mil sp or even earlyer, i forgot. But i could kill angels in 00 just fine, so i never felt bad about rushing to it. And that was a good thing. After i got full t2 stuff on my raven (except launchers) i started to train other things, wich work better in pvp enviroment. |

spy industrial
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Posted - 2007.09.12 06:10:00 -
[72]
i havent trained minmitar BS yet, and im a hair over a year old. i have trained cladari bs though maybe half a year ago for doing missions in raven, but thats about it
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Useless alt
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Posted - 2007.09.12 08:27:00 -
[73]
Started flying them when I was able to use torps and cruise missiles (You guess the race ) (6M SP)
I stoped flying them as I found a Drake more fun to fly then a Raven. I am thinking of getting my T2 guns and trying out the new Battleship for a bit but so far I like the Drake and or Nighthawk better then battleships.
I would say make sure you can afford to loose the ship before taking it out for a fight.
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Maltitol
Gallente Tides of Silence Hydra Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.12 14:58:00 -
[74]
I trained Gallente Bs as soon as possible, i didnt sit in one for almost 6 months.. and i trained Gallente Bs 5 just a month ago (currently at 16 mill sp's)
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Ryan Scouse'UK
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.09.14 17:12:00 -
[75]
came back very early 2006, was in a BC on my 14th day - BS on my 40th day geddoon.. + medium project weapons... 720s for level 3s..
as lasers SUCK!! ha
after geddon got an apoc.. worked with it till I got a machariel & the rest is history only BS il ever fly is the machariel the rest are far to slow.. 810ms AB anyone ? :)
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Velodra Gison
Caldari East Khanid Trading Khanid Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.14 22:07:00 -
[76]
I have 9m SP and i still haven't trained any battleship skills. Recruitment Thread EKT Website |

Vicebane
Caldari Extreme Intentions Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.18 14:33:00 -
[77]
I've been playing for about two weeks and went straight for BC's. This week im actually working on maximizing my passive shield tank skills while i cover a few recent losses.
I've seen roughly 200mil isk already and by the sounds of things thats more than a lot of people who have been playing a much longer time than I have.
I'll probably be in a BC until I can fully T2 fit a drake AND ferox before moving up to a BS. Flying around a 100mil + isk boat without having a super strong tank seems silly for both pve and pvp.
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TheBelgarion
Caldari Kinetic Vector Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.18 15:32:00 -
[78]
bS Skill is useless if u dont have the support skills ...
e.g. flying a raven with Heavy missiles coz u dont have Cruise yet is pointless
nowadays with the better cruisers like Drake its much easier to go without BS than in old days .. at least for mission runners ... Darke is uber compared to ferox :-9 -------------------------------------------- Best 3rd Party Tools for Eve: EveMon - Character Planning Tool EFT - Eve Fitting Tools EveMeep - Market,wallet Journal + Pos Tool |

ArrogantGod
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Posted - 2007.09.18 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Michelson Morley One has to ask what one wants to use a BS for. If you are going to go for PVP, then you had better have good skills or you are going to lose a pricy ship (compared to a cruiser).
If you are looking to make money by running missions, then I think that getting a BS asap is a good plan. A BS, even in the hands of a pilot with few skill points, is overkill for a level 3 mission. And even with few sp, one can still take most L4 missions.
Exactly, if you join a 0.0 corp with a month old character you can get into a raven with bs 2 and torpedos 1 and pop belt rats for 1mil ISK each. But if you try to pvp at that point you are a free kill.
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Edania
Caldari BlackSky inc. Edge Of Sanity
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Posted - 2007.09.19 11:47:00 -
[80]
for me it was based on the release of the tier 3s as a railgun focused caldari the scorp and the raven just didnt cut it so i went up the tree and got into the vulture when everybody else went straight to raven, i trained for the rokh as soon as it seemed like it was due imminently.
Quote: my Clone was excelent, i just had too many skillpoints
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2007.09.19 12:21:00 -
[81]
I have 14mill SP and only have about 1 or 2 SP in my racial battleship skill, it's not even at level 1 
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Crazy Broad
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Posted - 2007.09.20 19:23:00 -
[82]
I havent yet, but I guess on my main it would of been 8 months. ------------------------------
Originally by: Captian Internet
This thread isn't delivery its digorno
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Trexan
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Posted - 2007.09.21 11:12:00 -
[83]
Coming up to 11 million SP I have trained my Battleship Skill up to lvl 5. Done and dusted now, now I can focus on my support and gunnery skills fully.
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Esmenet
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Posted - 2007.09.21 14:19:00 -
[84]
I got it around 3 mill SP. If you are a combat pilot i'd say go for a BS as soon as you can as you make so much more isk when ratting or doing missions in a battleship. For pvp you better wait for better skills.
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