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Yaro
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:32:00 -
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Guys, girls, eve players...this whine, thread is about balance...
I love flying nano ishtar...in gangs, solo...whenever...pls look at the numbers
simple nano ishtar...good skills, t2 fit...no rigs...no implants...average cost most half time non carebear isk buying players can afford to loose
3 overdrives, 1 nano, 1 istab (or second nano) - top speed is 2800 m/s (+/-)
Snake, implants t2 stuff... top SPEED is 6000+ m/s... Domination setup top speed 8000 m/s...
PLEASE...CCP...BALANCE THIS GAME...IT shouldnt be like this...or allow us b.y .s.s officialy...
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Waxau
Mortis Angelus The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:55:00 -
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I.....Fai,l to uNderstanDed this thread........I just......Dont........Get it. ?
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sov68n
Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:01:00 -
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this thread is completely incomprehensible. I'm sure it will turn into a flame about th OP's stupidity unless he explains what he actually meant >.> ---
the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!! |

Valea
Wrath Of Khaine Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.02 23:24:00 -
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Well, at least ya have enough periods.
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NCP S2
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:13:00 -
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Originally by: Valea Well, at least ya have enough periods.
I disagree, there should be at least 50% more periods in the OP's post. This is unacceptable OP! How can you logically think anyone will take you seriously when you use so few periods?
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NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:20:00 -
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Yeah, why should spending iskies give you better stuff! Thats just wrong. Let's make Snakes half your speed instead. Same thing with domination stuff...
That should sort out the faction users.
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Shell Guardian
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:25:00 -
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I highly endorse these periods. But I have no clue what the OP is talking about.
CCP, nerf periods plz.
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LeMoose
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.03 00:35:00 -
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ok ccp listen to this man he speaks the truth
make all mods free so everyone is equal
better yet, make all new podplayers start in an officer fitted titan
Caldari ships | PVP | Success | Solo
(Pick 3) |

super bomberman
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:04:00 -
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nerfing is a bit... over the top... but... i agree... to a point... if i cant afford to buy somthing... i think... realy... it should be given to me... i love you  |

NoNah
Unseen University
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:14:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose ok ccp listen to this man he speaks the truth
make all mods free so everyone is equal
better yet, make all new podplayers start in an officer fitted titan
Actually, when you put it that way...
You could like make your pod have to fly back to where your ship exploded to get resurrected. Or have a logistics ship nearby.
Or you have to wait until the entire fleet has been killed or killed the opposing gang, and everyone respawns.
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Phil Miller
Ocean Dynamics Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:25:00 -
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1 word: Jumpgate.
look it up, its fun, and a new graphical upgrade is on the way to make it more modern. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Hutch ([email protected]) |

DarknessInc
Minmatar Legion of Corpses Federation Of united Corps
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:32:00 -
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CCP doesnt regulate the prices of RIGS and Implants. the Players do.
/signed. Much love to you too - Wachtmeister |

Steve Hawkings
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Posted - 2007.09.03 01:54:00 -
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use your brain dude. CCp doesnt set the prices, nor do you need to be a carebear to earn ISK.
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Blind Man
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2007.09.03 02:04:00 -
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Edited by: Blind Man on 03/09/2007 02:04:57 so basically you are whining because you don't have enough isk to buy leet stuff, so its CCP's problem 
better yet, you could fly a ship that doesn't need a lot of isk spent to make it work well.. a nano ishtar is not one of those ships, mmkay?
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Melinda Bettin
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Posted - 2007.09.03 03:32:00 -
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Originally by: Yaro Guys, girls, eve players...this whine, thread is about balance...
I love flying nano ishtar...in gangs, solo...whenever...pls look at the numbers
simple nano ishtar...good skills, t2 fit...no rigs...no implants...average cost most half time non carebear isk buying players can afford to loose
3 overdrives, 1 nano, 1 istab (or second nano) - top speed is 2800 m/s (+/-)
Snake, implants t2 stuff... top SPEED is 6000+ m/s... Domination setup top speed 8000 m/s...
PLEASE...CCP...BALANCE THIS GAME...IT shouldnt be like this...or allow us b.y .s.s officialy...
I agree 100%
The best solution to this "problem" would be for when players die they spawn in ghost form. While in ghost form they can float to the place where they were killed and an option will pop up allowing them to come back to life. When the player selects the 'yes' option, will come back to life, enter the ship with all fittings and equipment intact (including cargo), and perhaps 1% structure damage. That way players only need to get expensive things one time and they can have fun the rest of the time. Will probably increase game membership up to 7 million +... Feel free to send part of the royalty check this way.
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sov68n
Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:22:00 -
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this is probably the stupidest whine i've ever seen. bravo OP. ---
the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!! |

sov68n
Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: LeMoose better yet, make all new podplayers start in an officer fitted titan
and then they all "learn how the DD works" at the same time outside the starting station, causing lag of epic proportions, causing nodes to drop all over tranquility. ---
the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!! |

Kay Rissa
Russian Thunder Squad Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.03 05:41:00 -
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i guess the idea of this post, is that affects of the implants and rare modules is way too great.
Difference between standart t2 fit ship and implant/rare fit is way too big. Look at the speed difference: 2800 and 8000 m/s.
Maybe it shouldnt be like this. Maybe effects of the implnats, rare modules should be reduced ?
Proud member of RTSQ
ps: i dont like to kill innocent ppl, so if i killed u, u rnt innocent
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MasterDecoy
Gallente The Grifters
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Posted - 2007.09.03 05:51:00 -
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Originally by: DarknessInc CCP doesnt regulate the prices of RIGS and Implants. the Players do.
well... in a sense.... they do... as... they control.... the drop.... rate... of rig components... and... tags.... for implants...
Originally by: Evilempire1 good, im pentitioning you for slandering.
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Disco Flint
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.03 07:24:00 -
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I shouldn't read such threads monday morning. My brain hurts.
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Chainsaw Plankton
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Posted - 2007.09.03 07:43:00 -
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lets seed faction bpos in that factions space!!! and put megacyte and morphite in empire belts, balance empire with 0.0
if you want to spend billions you should get the bonuses. wasnt aware a snake set gave a 200%+ bonus to speed?
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Yaro
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Posted - 2007.09.03 10:53:00 -
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sorry for bad thread, but what i was trying to say, for billions of isks, u can buy insanely overpriced modules and turn a reasonable ship into something, what it isnt meant to be.
Actual ishtar with the fit a posted goes 2.8 km/s with maximum skills snakes give 53% top speed, polycarbon rigs give a lot, 7% Shaquil imp gives more speed, domination overdrives and nanos give some more. Overall those modules turn this ship, into something wich goes almost 8 k/s.
Maybe those modules should have such a great affect ?
If everyone thinks that it is a good balance, then I apologise for this topic.
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Koryvarn
Amarr Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Yaro sorry for bad thread, but what i was trying to say, for billions of isks, u can buy insanely overpriced modules and turn a reasonable ship into something, what it isnt meant to be.
Actual ishtar with the fit a posted goes 2.8 km/s with maximum skills snakes give 53% top speed, polycarbon rigs give a lot, 7% Shaquil imp gives more speed, domination overdrives and nanos give some more. Overall those modules turn this ship, into something wich goes almost 8 k/s.
Maybe those modules should have such a great affect ?
If everyone thinks that it is a good balance, then I apologise for this topic.
Then you get tripple webbed by a gang of cepters and a T1 fitted battleship pops you in 5 volleys. By bye 3 billion isk?
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Grendelsbane
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:19:00 -
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Edited by: Grendelsbane on 03/09/2007 16:23:22 Stuff costs too much?
Too bad. No, really. If you want to pew-pew in EVE - solo - , you have to be able to get high end gear and afford losses. That generally means being a successful high level industrialist or 0.0 pilot with access to good rats, etc. If you're someone who just dawdles around in empire not really being successful or making much ISK, that's your own fault.
Otherwise, make some friends and use them for bullet-sponges.
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Jonathos
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:27:00 -
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Originally by: Yaro sorry for bad thread, but what i was trying to say, for billions of isks, u can buy insanely overpriced modules and turn a reasonable ship into something, what it isnt meant to be.
Actual ishtar with the fit a posted goes 2.8 km/s with maximum skills snakes give 53% top speed, polycarbon rigs give a lot, 7% Shaquil imp gives more speed, domination overdrives and nanos give some more. Overall those modules turn this ship, into something wich goes almost 8 k/s.
Maybe those modules should have such a great affect ?
If everyone thinks that it is a good balance, then I apologise for this topic.
Yeah if you have good modules you can make a ship perform better than if it had bad modules!! This is STUPID how come people with more money get to buy better stuff?? CCP FIX!!!1111
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sov68n
Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: Yaro sorry for bad thread, but what i was trying to say, for billions of isks, u can buy insanely overpriced modules and turn a reasonable ship into something, what it isnt meant to be.
Actual ishtar with the fit a posted goes 2.8 km/s with maximum skills snakes give 53% top speed, polycarbon rigs give a lot, 7% Shaquil imp gives more speed, domination overdrives and nanos give some more. Overall those modules turn this ship, into something wich goes almost 8 k/s.
Maybe those modules should have such a great affect ?
If everyone thinks that it is a good balance, then I apologise for this topic.
well duh buying better mods/rigs/implants makes things better! what, you think that they would make the ship worse?
omg he spent his time making ISK and can afford better stuff than me!! NERF HIM CCP OMG HAX!!11! Fix or I will cancel my subscription and pull out my hair!!
This is still the stupidest whine in the Ships and Modules forum I've ever seen.
Bravo. End of Thread ---
the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!! |

Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 17:15:00 -
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Originally by: Yaro PLEASE...CCP...BALANCE THIS GAME...IT shouldnt be like this...
Yeah I endorse this. Ishtars should not be able to go faster than like 1500 m/s at all 
Fix speedtanks, base hit chance on agility! |

Lisento Slaven
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.03 17:32:00 -
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I think he's complaining that the same exact setup WITH implants becomes sickly overpowering compared to the one without implants. And the same with faction mods. But I could be wrong...oh so very...very wrong... ---
Put in space whales!
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sov68n
Caldari RABBLE-RABBLE Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.03 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lisento Slaven I think he's complaining that the same exact setup WITH implants becomes sickly overpowering compared to the one without implants. And the same with faction mods. But I could be wrong...oh so very...very wrong...
and hes whining about t2 rigs. He just thinks that because he cannot afford to buy uber setups, no one else should. and therefore: Linkage ---
the KOS killboards nerfed our kill sigs!!! |

atrophocy
Last Serenity The Sundering
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Posted - 2007.09.04 00:28:00 -
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nano-ishtar with rigs does 3400-3500 tops [3 x overdrive, 2 x istab, 2 x polycarbon, this fit gives optimal topspeed-orbitspeed] with snakes i've seen them doing near 6km/s. i havnt done the math to work out what it would be with a domination mwd, but wicked fast to be sure.
I really dont see the problem with it. If you want to spend obscene amounts of isk on a ship, that's your choice. Yes it is amazingly overpowered when you fit it with faction and snakes, but it's also a massive risk for when it gets popped. True, that's not how the ship was intended to be flown, but that's how eve works. Much like RL, i'm sure alot of the modified honda civics i see on the road were never ment to be anything more than a cheap run around family car, but if people are prepared to spend money on them, they can make them what ever then like. Same goes with ships in eve.
if you're prepared to fork out the cash, you can do whatever the **** you like, as the saying goes, "dont fly anything you cant afford to loose"

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