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Konjiro
RED SQUAD
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.04 15:23:00 -
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Edited by: Konjiro on 04/09/2007 15:23:33
Another simple solution for this problem is to give the BS NPC's scrambler ( all of them ) wohoooo problem solved 
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Merdaneth
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 15:55:00 -
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It is always risk free even if you change the timers. You can always warp between safespots for X time, if you cannot log off immediately, it will just creating a boring timesink for those who don't want to get caught. There is no point in thinking of such solutions with the safespot-warp alternative available. Get used to it.
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:28:00 -
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The post about removing Bounties from all Rats would solve the problem. As a Drone Region resident, we honestly don't have any Farmers around. I attribute it to the problem of hauling.
Face it: At present, anyone wishing to Rat will only have to move stuff to/from Empire once. The first time you bring in a hauler will cans full of ammo, a Raven, and use an alt to scout. You can then Rat/logoffski until out of ammo, then repeat with a hauler full of loot. In the Drone Regions, you would find your hauler full of Minerals (which take time to loot/salvage) well before you used even a single can full of ammo. And with no Bounties, those Minerals are your full reward.
Now, do you really think that you can't stop a Hauler from flying 15-ish jumps to and from Empire several times a day? There is your solution to Farming right there.
So...Since people seem to wanna stop Chinese ISK Farmers / Macroers / unwanted Ratters ... I wholeheartedly support the removal of ISK bountes. Remove the Security Gain as well. Increase the module drops, to create the loot that becomes the Reward.
If you don't like this idea, then paint yourself as a Hypocrite if you ever critize a 'Fix the Drone Regions' thread. Cuz that is exactly what we have to deal with in the Drone regions. And guess what? - Farmers seem to be a problem we don't have.
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prathe
Minmatar
Omega Enterprises
Mostly Harmless
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Princess Jodi
The post about removing Bounties from all Rats would solve the problem. As a Drone Region resident, we honestly don't have any Farmers around. I attribute it to the problem of hauling.
Face it: At present, anyone wishing to Rat will only have to move stuff to/from Empire once. The first time you bring in a hauler will cans full of ammo, a Raven, and use an alt to scout. You can then Rat/logoffski until out of ammo, then repeat with a hauler full of loot. In the Drone Regions, you would find your hauler full of Minerals (which take time to loot/salvage) well before you used even a single can full of ammo. And with no Bounties, those Minerals are your full reward.
Now, do you really think that you can't stop a Hauler from flying 15-ish jumps to and from Empire several times a day? There is your solution to Farming right there.
So...Since people seem to wanna stop Chinese ISK Farmers / Macroers / unwanted Ratters ... I wholeheartedly support the removal of ISK bountes. Remove the Security Gain as well. Increase the module drops, to create the loot that becomes the Reward.
If you don't like this idea, then paint yourself as a Hypocrite if you ever critize a 'Fix the Drone Regions' thread. Cuz that is exactly what we have to deal with in the Drone regions. And guess what? - Farmers seem to be a problem we don't have.
thread won ...genius!
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:20:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
The post about removing Bounties from all Rats would solve the problem. As a Drone Region resident, we honestly don't have any Farmers around. I attribute it to the problem of hauling.
Face it: At present, anyone wishing to Rat will only have to move stuff to/from Empire once. The first time you bring in a hauler will cans full of ammo, a Raven, and use an alt to scout. You can then Rat/logoffski until out of ammo, then repeat with a hauler full of loot. In the Drone Regions, you would find your hauler full of Minerals (which take time to loot/salvage) well before you used even a single can full of ammo. And with no Bounties, those Minerals are your full reward.
Now, do you really think that you can't stop a Hauler from flying 15-ish jumps to and from Empire several times a day? There is your solution to Farming right there.
So...Since people seem to wanna stop Chinese ISK Farmers / Macroers / unwanted Ratters ... I wholeheartedly support the removal of ISK bountes. Remove the Security Gain as well. Increase the module drops, to create the loot that becomes the Reward.
If you don't like this idea, then paint yourself as a Hypocrite if you ever critize a 'Fix the Drone Regions' thread. Cuz that is exactly what we have to deal with in the Drone regions. And guess what? - Farmers seem to be a problem we don't have.
But what about people who don't like being -10
also about the no farmer's in the drone regions don't make me laugh
Ask Awox if there are farmers in the drone regions
matter a fact I can name you a few of their hauler characters that they send through skarkon - paala when they are moving parts
aszv
afhl
iceoq
they have a scout character by the name of
Detis S
they also incorporate with the farmers who hide in Tau Ceti International and KOS
agilyqo is one of their escorts when they haul and actually smack talked me once 
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Princess Jodi
Vendetta Underground
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:37:00 -
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- My security status is 4.2. It was 5.0, but I killed in low sec awhile back.
- Not sure of the area you're menioning. I don't see Farmers. Ever.
- Sounds like you've identified an allianc member helping the Farmers? If so, take action in the alliance. Cuz without help there is NO docking in the Drone Regions for neutrals.
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Captian Internet
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Princess Jodi
- My security status is 4.2. It was 5.0, but I killed in low sec awhile back.
- Not sure of the area you're menioning. I don't see Farmers. Ever.
- Sounds like you've identified an allianc member helping the Farmers? If so, take action in the alliance. Cuz without help there is NO docking in the Drone Regions for neutrals.
Well there is a barren area I come across in the drone regions when I do my rounds and I'll see the occasional
2 nouns = name characters.
They don't need to dock they've got Safe spots full of GSC's out there some where. I've seen it out near the goon space in 5Q if you do a scan around planet VIII I think you'll see the scanner filled with GSC's
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Major Stallion
Four Rings
D-L
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:54:00 -
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Originally by: Nanobotter Mk2
Here is a wild idea, stop pretending killing people in ratting ships is PVP, stop wasting your time hunting them, they mean NOTHING to you do NOTHING to you. Why are you so obsessed with NPC ratters? grow up start playing the damn game and stop looking for easy risk free kills.
you know damn well if you want that system to rat in yourself they logged you take over you win.
Seriously what is with all the weenies who feel compelled to hunt people in npc set ups knowing they are sure wins if they can force the fight and then ***** the people do everything possible not to fight? You are in 0.0 go play the damn game battle other corps alliances etc...
words spoken from an ISK buyer, perhaps?
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High Sec PvP
Originally by: "Wylker"
CCP has finally mastered stupidity
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Gort
Storm Guard Elite
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Posted - 2007.09.04 19:40:00 -
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Edited by: Gort on 04/09/2007 19:41:10
Originally by: etgfrogs
Originally by: Akat
Edited by: Akat on 03/09/2007 16:04:14
Its pretty bad in any 0.0 region.
this is NOT a problem for the drone region, why? because the rats there dont have bounties, but the average bs still drops 1-2 mil worth of refinables in a nice 150 m3 package.
solution to the problem of all these isk farmers, kill bounties in 0.0 region then increase the amount of stuff they drop. that way you cant just sit in a system farming constantly, you need to haul your stuff back to somewhere.
i know there will be quite a few complainers about this since the bounties are an easy way of getting money, yea, i know that people wouldn't like seeing a change like this, but it is a sollution to this problem.
There are macro ratters all over the drone regions. Very sophisticated, really, and damn hard to catch. They tractor the wrecks to the belt beacon then haul the alloy with T2 Haulers. All the BS accounts are about three months old, with names even beyond the usual "you can't primary me" Eve obtuseness. Local is utterly silent, of course, except once in awhile there is a minder looking in.
I think it will continue until CCP seriously changes the game mechanics to make automated resource collection too risky to be profitable. Until then, well, 0.0 belongs to both the significant alliances and the isk-farmers.
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Edit: Crappy grammer.
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SexxxSlave
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Posted - 2007.09.04 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Gort
Edit: Crappy grammer.
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