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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kaaii Edited by: Kaaii on 03/09/2007 23:37:28
I Too, am saddened by the blatant turncoat of events....
I had one of the other LSAA's in empire as well, and was building two rorquals (as well as a nid) like I have done For the last eleven months...
When low and behold I get a system message saying no more, which i quickly petitioned, including
Kierons Orginal response on LSAA's in EMPIRE
In that thread part way down you can clearly see him stating "they would stay", that they would be grandfathered in, but just that no new ones would be allowed. Some preceived this as a slight, that others had this "special feature" but never did they address the issue that this was available to anyone who had the desire to anchor a tower in hi sec, pre-December (kali?)
Im at a loss to such a "we said its ok but we take it back" attitude,...
I guess we as the game community should be getting used to that by now...
Downhill we go...
Kaaii
complete and utter fubish for ccp to do a 180, the actual ammount of shipyards was getting smaller and smaller due to people searching them out and blowing them up. Over time the problem would of been solved by the actual gaming community.
As it is now all large ship assymbly arrays in emprie have been offlined and unanchored, materials in the hanger are moved to the closest corp office of the owner of the pos and all jobs will be delivered to the nearest low sec station. That being said CCP has once again changed thier stated position on a subject that was covered in nov of 2006. For those of you thinking the high sec Rorq is a expliot need to read the link in the quotes above, all Large arrays already up were granfathered in.
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 01:39:00 -
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if ccp followed thier own word stated in
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=430960&page=10
this would not be an issue .... end of statement.
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:33:00 -
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this is not about chibb, though it effects him, this is not about his high sec veldnaught, though it will be the only one. This is about a stance that CCP took last november with the Rev 1 patch notes concerning large ship arrays at high sec pos's. There were a few that per ccp's own statement were grandfathered in, and the reversal of that desicsion without notice has had a devestating blow for a lot of people. At the very least the location of existing logistics and the materials that are now stranded many jumps away from where they can be use.
I am honestly sorry that chibb's ore ship is now where he does not want to use it, we all know that he wanted to zoom around high sec belts compressing for newer players and letting them have more fun while he had more fun, but that is never goign to happen now and sadly not due to any fualt of his own but to the corperation that he pays to play in thier game while he is thier best promoter.
This is a sad week for us because of you CCP, you have helped squash more hopes and dreams than any gate camp or outpost taking in the blink of an eye. If we truely wanted to be at the whim of a cruel taskmasters whip I think most of us would still be playing Yatzee with our older brothers who cheat.
Shame on you CCP for not sticking to your own rules ..... again.
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 17:44:00 -
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Edited by: Clorthos on 04/09/2007 17:44:27
Originally by: i take
Originally by: slothe Edited by: slothe on 03/09/2007 16:22:57 so does the same happen to everyone else with high-sec capital assembly arays, or just you?
i know at least one other persoan that has one.
kind of funny, he uses an exploit and whine about not being allowed to do so, instead of thanking ccp for not banning him or removing the exploiterble object :P
First of all they were large ship assymbly arrays, they can produce dreads carriers frieghters as well as the new capital ore ship. Last november they told the community that no more large ship arrays would be allowed to be anchored in high security, and that all existing arrays would be grandfathered in. There were no exploits to be banned about, there were no rules broken.
The number of large assymbly arrays were fading due to corps breakign up and not fueling the pos, wardecs on pos owners, and people just up and removing them to go do other things. This was not a rampent issue at all but a handful of cases that while having a veldnaught in amarr is nice, anyone attacking or tanking concord or pvping at all in a capital got a free ride to low sec ship and all.
read the background information before you scream for bans and expolits
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:13:00 -
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Originally by: Zephyrys
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy
it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line.
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.04 18:43:00 -
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Originally by: Illyria Ambri
Originally by: Clorthos
Originally by: Zephyrys
Originally by: Ishina Fel
Besides.. all you rabid fanbois have got to be giving him a good ego stroking as it is... 1 Super cap is legendary.. 2 is greedy
it is a capital ship not a supercapital which would be a titan or mothership, since this only takes about a much minerals as a dread and has 1/30th the cost then this would fall in the capital ship line.
nitpicky symantics
just a fact, having a revelation in amarr space and having a avatar in amarr space are 2 different things.
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Clorthos
Gallente Tau Ceti Global Production Angels Of Discord
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Posted - 2007.09.06 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: NIKNAK Chribba and the other LSAA owner's started to build rorq's in Empire (an exploit incase you didn't already know) and CCP acted quickly in unanchoring the LSAA's and told the owner's in a "confidential GM/DEV message" which Chribba felt the need to display in his original post that they could still have the ship's when the production time had elapsed but they would need to choose a low sec system for the GM/DEV's to spawn the ship's in.
It was not an exploit according to the devs and patch notes about the subject, stop calling things that they are not. The mail sent to the CEO's put 100% of the blame on the LSAA owners not the devs making the desecion last november when the patch was set, AND when we asked in mails and petitions about the rules of putting them up.
Originally by: NIKNAK Anyway a rorq in empire is an "exploit" and if sanctioned by CCP it's just T20 and co all over again and we don't really want that do we?
NOT signed!
You do realise that there is a huge difference between spawning tech 2 bpo's for your friends under the guise of a event that no one else could enter, and using game mechanics that were known about and apperently not thought about with the introducton of the new ship?
The real solution to this was to not allow them at all, but once they did and when they sanctioned the building of ships in empire they OWE it to the LSAA owners to tell them ahead of time, regardless of what everyone is thinking this is CCP's fualt and not the shipyard owners. And all of the shipyard owners will agree that taking them down is not the issue, but how CCP has gone about it and how they have treated the shipyard owners as the ones that have caused this issue when they operated under thier guidelines.
Chibb needs a giant veldspar rock outside the main amarr station that is bm's system wide and will never run out of ore, the ore capital ship in high sec is next to useless.
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