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Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.05 08:52:00 - [61] Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Ian Novarider However, to be on the leading edge the number to beat is 9.5 million people having bought the game. Here we go again. McDonalds is not on the leading edge of the restaurant industry. Quality > Quantity. Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.05 09:21:00 - [62] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 05/09/2007 09:22:01 Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Ian Novarider However, to be on the leading edge the number to beat is 9.5 million people having bought the game. Here we go again. McDonalds is not on the leading edge of the restaurant industry. Actually it is. Having stalls open all over the world in amazing numbers and maintaining the quality even in remote countries... However, it's not balanced or delicate food. It's the leading edge of food in term of popularity, and in many country, quality too. Don't forget that the world exists outside of the US and Europe. McDonalds and Blizzard are the same on that point of view, they didn't create anything. They took what was popular but existed in different products, made a single product out of it, and made money out of it. If CCP was able to learn from them, Eve would be much greater. Their is a lot to learn from their method. For example, they could start by copying the WoW user interface: hotkeys for every actions could be so nice in Eve... Still, gratz for the new record. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Ian Novarider Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.05 09:39:00 - [63] Edited by: Ian Novarider on 05/09/2007 09:41:31 Originally by: Sinder Ohm Originally by: Adonis 4174 McDonalds is not on the leading edge of the restaurant industry.[/quote Quality > Quantity. I respect Blizzard as a company and consider it more successful than CCP. I dont like WoW , but respect that its a comparatively well made fantasy MMORPG and hands down the single financially most successful MMORPG period. I think EVE is currently the best Sci Fi game on the market, but its still a small niche product. The introduction of walking talking avatars ("Ambulation") may change that and push it into the Big Boyz league. The complexity and depth of EVE is what makes it attractive IMHO. CCP has the continuing lead in concurrent users online and is well respected in the developer community for it. However, even they had to start sharding (--> EVE Chinese server .... for all I know that one was as big a bust as SOE's Japanese Star Wars Galaxies servers). About BigMac ...if you speak about the restaurant INDUSTRY (!), it IS a big success worldwide, especially outside the english speaking countries. You dont have to like fast food to recognize a successful franchise. Have fun Quote: Ceterum censeo BoB delendam esse.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.09.05 11:28:00 - [64] Originally by: Ares Lightfeather Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 05/09/2007 09:22:01 Originally by: Adonis 4174 Originally by: Ian Novarider However, to be on the leading edge the number to beat is 9.5 million people having bought the game. Here we go again. McDonalds is not on the leading edge of the restaurant industry. Actually it is. Having stalls open all over the world in amazing numbers and maintaining the quality even in remote countries... However, it's not balanced or delicate food. It's the leading edge of food in term of popularity, and in many country, quality too. Don't forget that the world exists outside of the US and Europe. McDonalds and Blizzard are the same on that point of view, they didn't create anything. They took what was popular but existed in different products, made a single product out of it, and made money out of it. If CCP was able to learn from them, Eve would be much greater. Their is a lot to learn from their method. For example, they could start by copying the WoW user interface: hotkeys for every actions could be so nice in Eve... Still, gratz for the new record. Clearly you have entirely missed the point. While McDonalds is one of the largest food chains in the country, it is not infact, on the leading, or cutting edge of the restaraunt industry. It is on the leading edge of the fast food industry, however, no one looks to McDonalds to learn about cutting edge food technology, great service, amazing decor, or anything but how fast you can deep fry a burger. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
SiJira	Posted - 2007.09.05 11:48:00 - [65] just to clarify eve is an mmorpg and most mmos are ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Sinder Ohm Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless	Posted - 2007.09.05 12:46:00 - [66] DONT CHANGE A WINNING TEAM!! you want to know why.... look at the starwars mmo Originally by: Karanth Wimps play empire. Real men play in 0.0. Hardcore masochists live out in drone space.
Damon Ra Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:14:00 - [67] Originally by: Kastar Originally by: Pichonsita 35k players i wonder whats the servers capacity :P hmm, about 75% of that This Current Tranquility status: SELECT production_code FROM SISI WHERE testers = 'players' AND testers <> 'ccp_staff' AND testing_duration <> 'sufficient';
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.05 14:51:00 - [68] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 05/09/2007 14:52:57 Quote: Clearly you have entirely missed the point. While McDonalds is one of the largest food chains in the country, it is not infact, on the leading, or cutting edge of the restaraunt industry. It is on the leading edge of the fast food industry, however, no one looks to McDonalds to learn about cutting edge food technology, great service, amazing decor, or anything but how fast you can deep fry a burger. Errr, no, you're completely wrong. McDonalds is leading in term of customer service, speed of delivery / food making, publicity, implantation... and many other domains, and a lot of companies copy it. That may surprise you, but in some other countries, McDonalds is the standard for clealiness, and seen as higher middle class food. It's only one example though. Making a business that spans over the world does mean that there is a lot of things in how they work that are looked up to and copied by others. And, a lot of Eve concepts are the same as the concept in most other MMORPG around. Yeah, even your favorite MMORPG is doing it. -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Adonis 4174	Posted - 2007.09.05 23:29:00 - [69] I would like to answer your claims about McDonalds but it would derail this thread. ----- I'll be in my pod
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.06 03:35:00 - [70] Ares, thats the SAME load my McDonalds manager friend spews to his new employees, even HE doesn't believe it Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.
Ares Lightfeather Gallente	Posted - 2007.09.06 10:33:00 - [71] Edited by: Ares Lightfeather on 06/09/2007 10:35:04 Originally by: Tortun Nahme Ares, thats the SAME load my McDonalds manager friend spews to his new employees, even HE doesn't believe it Well, of course. No one wants to believe that McDonald is making quality food in the US and most of Europe. It's a cultural factor. In those countries, everyone believes that being successful involves some combinaison of the following : - being really lucky, - cheating, - lying, - making bad products. It's safer to believe than people richer than us cheated or were lucky to get to that position, else, people would have to accept the fact that their own stupidity / lack of skill is responsible for their current position. It's also easily seen in Eve. The big alliance are said to exploit any bug and are universally despised, and a lot of smaller corp just say 'come here, here we don't cheat, but because of that we don't get to the top'. Again, it's safer to assume that the other cheated than to accept the fact that they have better teamwork and skill. On other MMORPG, the same can be seen to. Anyone that gets to a higher level than you isn't stronger because he's more skilled, has perfected his network of friend or anything else. It's because "he's a no-life" and has no social life or friends, because he shared his account or abused bugs. I'm not saying all is black and white though. Some did cheat, lie and got lucky to get to the top. Some do not try to be the best, and enjoy their current position. But staying to the top for years does require a lot of skill and good ones. McDonalds, Blizzard, and even CCP, all three at the top in a category, have those skills. Which doesn't change the fact that companies copy each other all the time, to get even better. And for nahme... even if your manager doesn't believe it, have him go to Asia or Africa. In some places, McDonald is what I spoke about. I know, because I've been living there. And, before someone says it, no, I've never work for them. I agree that it's derailing the thread though... -- Siggie ! Come back here ! -- Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: MotherMoon well a drone UI is a bit of an artist job Drone AI is obviously done by an artist too. One that is heavily into abstract
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.06 12:57:00 - [72] Congratulations CCP on breaking another (psychologically) important number. Originally by: CCP kieron We've come a long way. Indeed. -- EVE Tools for cell phones and Windows/linux/Mac systems http://evemsp.sourceforge.net/
consider telos Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:30:00 - [73] I think ambulation will kick the subs up a huge amount. I know alot of people who wouldn't touch eve because there was no avatar. I was one of them. I started one day because I was bored, had no games to play and saw one of their adverts and saw that you didn't require a CC for the trial. I thought "**** it, I'll download eve and see what it's like.". Ambulation will give more immersion to the game. I can see purely socialisers and rp'ers picking up the game for that, and loving it.
Ian Novarider Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:46:00 - [74] Can EVE survive more players online at the moment single sharded ? Without a better load balancing strategy, I forsee a severe cluster frag coming up if tenthousands of new players come in to check out EVE Ambulation. Quote: Ceterum censeo BoB delendam esse.
Tortun Nahme Minmatar Heimatar Services Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.07 02:36:00 - [75] just for the record, he isnt my manager, he is my friend who is also a manager Why there should be a breathalyzer to login to Eve-Forums: Quote: Smacking my own alt in a nerf-thread while drunk, he was irritating a Hauler full of tech II n00bs, Oops.

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