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Niko medes
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Posted - 2007.09.04 07:50:00 -
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do you think it might be possible to personalize your ship in the upcoming expansion?
i mean i know the next expansion u can customize the inside of your ship but what about the outside?
like paint ur ships and stuff.
when i write painting i dont mean like you can make your whole hyperion pink or something.
im just sayin like something that can maybe make our rides look abit unique within reason.
for like a corporation they can have a certain vinyl they put on all their ships.
and those pirates out there can make their ships look piraty lol.
or maybe have like your corporations insignia somewhere on ur ship.
i dunno, what do you guys think?
bad idea?
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Destiny Calling
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.04 07:53:00 -
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I belive if you look here
Ship model comparison
If you watch that video you will see what the ships look like with a graphic overhaul, if or not you will be able to put your logo on them, I'm not sure.
Although it does look good.
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Viliny
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.04 07:55:00 -
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Exterior painting of ships once existed in EVE but it was removed to ease the LAG
IIRC i had some clanmates who started eve fiddling about with some tools ccp released before eve where you could design your ship before you got the game
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Niko medes
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:00:00 -
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so painting ur ship produces lag? o_O
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Viliny
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:01:00 -
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having a bazillion custom ships out there instead of 1 look for a specific ship does
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Nihn Lemai
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Niko medes
so painting ur ship produces lag? o_O
Of course, everything custom is more data that need to be sent to the client.
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Titas Agor
TITANS OF PEACE
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:09:00 -
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i think eve needs this... just adding slight customizations to the ships so not every ship looks identicle to the next... i always thought that this was litterly one of the only things eve lacked, as the ships are your own personal avatar so to speak, its what you look at 90% of your time in eve. But having said that, earth and beyond did that and it looked crap. So i'd have to be done in such a way it doesn't change the look of the ships that much, just slightly. Likeing spraying corp/alliance logos on the sides of ships would be good.. the green part of the ishtar, having a varity of colour to choose from jus for that part, so your not colouring the whole ship... just little sections of it...
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Terra Fury
The Adeptus Mechanicus
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Posted - 2007.09.04 08:43:00 -
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Too bad you cant just have the logo of your corporation on your ship.
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Viliny
principle of motion
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.04 09:00:00 -
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Now don't get me wrong, id love to be able to personalize my ships. But we have to overcome the obvious limiations of the engine and the server load as it is before adding this back in the game. (Im a late 2006 character so i don't really know first-hand what went on with these when eve launched)
- Corp logos are chosen from a set of available logos (correct me if im wrong)
- Alliance logos are uploaded images made by alliances and then approved by C C P
Would make more sense to use alliance logos on ships if it was implemented as a feature.
Also, an alliance could make a limited set of templates which alliance members could use. This would tone down on each and every ship having an unique design. But still have some level of identity to your ship. Think WOW tabards (yeah wow...) implemented on ships could be sweet.
I know id love to have the iac logo on my ship. But the ships as they are now barely would show details like that. I mean whens the last time you saw the caldari logo when ratting with your raven? Been awhile for me.
Theres also the idea of implementing colour sets for different alliances... this would work like... a bob squad would look Blue(?) if bob were to choose a blueish colour as theirs. I do realize that more than 2 entities would end up with very similar colours...
Any other oppinnions? 
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Gaven Blands
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Posted - 2007.09.04 09:46:00 -
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It would be pretty cool I suppose, but would need to be done with some restraint.
It's bad enough my client has to be ready to draw Voogru's Opus Pleasure Ship or whatever it's called just in case he ever decides to undock it.
Having my client ready to draw every last muppet's holy design of the perfect ship is going to be too much for my poor PC to be bothered with.
On top of that, somebody will just figure out some crazy mesh that the client can't draw and vanishes there ship or something.
Mebbee they'll just have some triple layered templates as seen in the corp logo and implemented like you see in Guild Wars Capes.
That wouldn't be too bad.
Except in fleet battles.
Where it would be more grid lag as you enter I'll wager.
The nubmer of times you see a ship close up and actually want to look at it's decals?
3 times a month?
Is it worth it?
Probably not.
Unless you're one of those "Max Power" types. In which case we only need to wait for you to grow up instead of pandering to your wishes.
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Pottsey
Enheduanni Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.04 09:51:00 -
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personalizeing your ship are one of the things I miss from my E&B days.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:12:00 -
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Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/09/2007 10:12:46
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/09/2007 10:12:09
If you had set paint schemes and a RGB slider option in coloring, it wouldn't 'cause that much of a lag difference.
/ship it's a ridiculously small amount more info, considering what the loading takes now.
BUT, it would ruin the special ships around. As it seems the only thing making khanid special is their paint 
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DsItnangel
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/09/2007 10:12:46
Edited by: Sheriff Jones on 04/09/2007 10:12:09
If you had set paint schemes and a RGB slider option in coloring, it wouldn't 'cause that much of a lag difference.
/ship it's a ridiculously small amount more info, considering what the loading takes now.
BUT, it would ruin the special ships around. As it seems the only thing making khanid special is their paint
Here we go again. We've been over this topic 7,000,000,000 times. We all know how much data it takes to signal the colors. blah blah. There are seriously over a hundred separate threads about this. Cant we just say it would/will be awesome and leave it at that? We all know how smart you think you are b/c you know how much data some color takes to code, nobody gives a ****. Let CCP figure that out. Just cross your fingers and get back to shooting that veldspar rock you've been getting so intimate with lately.
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DsItnangel
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Posted - 2007.09.04 10:21:00 -
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BTW Sheriff your my best friend for answering my question earlier  . The previous statement was directed to the community as a whole, not at any individual.
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Gorek Loc
Fine Art Manufactury
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:11:00 -
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While I am against pink battleships and neon-green cruisers, I like the idea of personalizing ships. With alliance logos and corporation logos, not a personal picture or anything.
However, there are other ways to set ships apart. The modules fitted on the ship do indeed affect the looks of the ships. I haven't 'decoded' all yet, but I can certainly and easily spot the difference of a ship fitted with missile launchers or turrets.
I wonder if all modules are visible, from armor plates to ECM to Shield boosters?
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High Sec Liberators
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:45:00 -
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Shame we couldnt just personalise the display we see.
I.E We customise the ship, only we can see this by default.
If someone "inspects" the ship while inspace the data would be sent and a viewing Window could be displayed.
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Frug
Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:48:00 -
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Originally by: DsItnangel
BTW Sheriff your my best friend for answering my question earlier . The previous statement was directed to the community as a whole, not at any individual.
Yeah you best not be flaming my alt the Sheriff.
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Foppemoa
Caldari
Royal Swedish Capsulers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 12:58:00 -
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i still vote for a feature similar to the one they have in SWG.
In SWG you could assign hull colour and trim colour. you had a pallette to choose colours from for basic ship design (thus meaning no whooping load of custom data being sent. only what item and what color id, for example: (hull=2, trim=5).
Then ontop of this you could have paint kits, that added different patterns, and with another two color values. for example: flame pattern thingy, where you could set two colors for the pattern.
So in total it could be: An x-wing that was black, with red trim. And then as a more cutom option you slapped on a flame kit and gave the outer edge of the flame a blue color and the inner color yellow. (yes, a horrid combination, but it's only an example)
thus it should create a data-string that's very slim (hull=2, trim=5, pfx=5, clr1=3, clr2=7)
Ofcourse since i have no idea how the SWG code actually looks, and lack programming skills i'm only guessing here..
But it really shouldn't take much more then that. And all of this is loaded locally, in the same process as the characters name load. Since it doesn't have to load any images from the server, but only the colour id's it should be fairly fast and not really decrease performance.
or?...
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:03:00 -
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It would not be awesome, because most people have no sense of color. And I would not enjoy a headache every time I logged into Eve. So, unless some big boring book on Color Theory becomes mandatory reading before you can customize your ship, anything more than corp/alliance logos is too much.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Foppemoa
Caldari
Royal Swedish Capsulers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:18:00 -
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It's not about people making horrendous color designs, it's about being able to customize. if someone wants to fly around in a pink badger, then i guess that's ok.
Because i'm pretty sure that in a universe where most things are legal/semi-legal it would be more then possible to paint your ship pink.
hell, allot of people do that today to cars :S
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: DsItnangel
BTW Sheriff your my best friend for answering my question earlier . The previous statement was directed to the community as a whole, not at any individual.
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Fswd
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:29:00 -
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No, more textures means more network transfer means more lag. At least, when you force other ppl to see your pink kestrel. If it is client-only, go ahead
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Foppemoa
Caldari
Royal Swedish Capsulers Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 13:45:00 -
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But the textures/paint kits wouldn't be sever side. they would all be stored locally and the only thing you load from the server are a few colour id's.
The rest is loaded on your local machine, so it won't affect your connection that much.
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Captain Podkiller
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:24:00 -
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Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you customize the ships already, if you edit the colour of your raven, all the raven's take on that effect so it ain't so personal?
Also "Walking in Stations" is gonna be the way to customize your character, I think ships need to be left alone while they sort out the lag.
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Imperator Jora'h
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Podkiller
Correct me if i'm wrong but can't you customize the ships already, if you edit the colour of your raven, all the raven's take on that effect so it ain't so personal?
I haven't heard of anyone doing it in awhile but there was a time where people would muck around with the models. You could do things like make you Tristan use the Raven model (or IIRC some even made their ship a station).
Thing is you were the only one who saw those modifications. No one else did.
As for logos I was almost certain that was coming to EVE with Rev 3. Not 100% on that but if you look at some pics of the new ship models you will see corp logos on them in many of the pictures.
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Nicho Void
Gallente
Hyper-Nova
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:43:00 -
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Edited by: Nicho Void on 04/09/2007 14:43:41
I'm against personalization not because it will cause more lag, but because I'd rather not see the 100+ idiots who think they're being original with a pink raven, or the 14 year olds scrawling "poo" and "ass" across the bow of their dreads, or the inevitable swarm of "420 for life!".
Personalization is good in theory, but it would be abused too quickly, leading to a total break down in the immersion of Eve.
EDIT: Woops. Posted before I was finished. Of course, if personalization was limited to something small like a corp logo, it would work fine.
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Sheriff Jones
Amarr
Viziam
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:49:00 -
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Originally by: Sheriff Jones
If you had set paint schemes and a RGB slider option
This still, would be fitting to the world, not result in "leet" things, and honestly, anyone who thinks when spaceshipping becomes commercial, that there won't be pink ships around...go visit the future!
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SiJira
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Posted - 2007.09.04 15:08:00 -
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other than having the corp logo there no
even the alliance logos dont deserve to be on the ships as they are usually too fruity
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Merdaneth
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 15:46:00 -
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I dunno, but CCP missed the obvious solution, which completely lag-free:
Only show the custom colored ship to the client that customized it.
No data has to be sent to the server or clients. After all, it is primarily the ship's owner who want to see that cool color. I personally have no desire to see pink-and-silver metallic apocs cruising through the ether whenever I log in. The names of lots of characters are already jarring enough, I'm afraid what will happen if everybody gets to color their own ships.
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Posted - 2007.09.04 16:55:00 -
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or at least lock ship coloring to player corporations/alliances so we know at a glance (when pewpewing with blasters) if we're fighting Red team or Blue team :P)
On the side though, corp/alliance logos on all their ship = win. All you have to do is when the ship shows up, logo gets downloaded to client, stored to cache, and when an alliance/corp member shows up, just get logo from cache. Little-no lag.
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