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DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.05 13:20:00 - [1] I have a new plan. I am now offering 8% monthly interest for 6 months. If you need to withdraw it earlier the rate is at 95% buyback. I hope for a total of 3 billion. My plans are not limited so any amount you wish to invest will be utilized. I am working with high end T1 blueprints. I have all that I need researched now. I am able to produce from them at a rapid pace. I am selling at several systems around eve. I will also trade T2 items within market hubs around Eve. These include your common weapons systems to propulsion modules as well as defensive modules. The type of trading for the T2 items is in station. It does not include any risk as the goods are always safe within the station. I make sure not to buy overpriced. The selling of the T1 manufactured items is at the stations I produce from. The returns are guaranteed to you no matter how bad I trade. I have enough experience to break even at the very worst. A significant amount of personal assets to pay dividends when they are due. At the end of the period 100% of your investment is returned. There will be additional benefits to you any time I make a greater than expected profit for that month. I will be liquidating all leftovers at the end of the period to give to you as additional growth. Invest any amount you feel necessary. If you choose to ask for the amount back before 6 month deadline then I will return it at 95% value. Costs of plan delays. The timer starts this thursday. Six months ends at 0:00 Eve time on February 21 2008. Please ask any serious questions. I am happy to answer you to the fullest. Looking forward for your participation. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Dr Slurm General Commodities	Posted - 2007.09.05 14:40:00 - [2] Here's are link to his previous scam attempts: This was his first attempt. When that thread started going in a direction he didn't like he created another thread to cover it up. Which the mods locked. Here he tries again and again. So without further ado: Tired of the inane ramblings of the incompetent? Click here
Mr. Orange Gallente Band of Freelancers	Posted - 2007.09.05 14:48:00 - [3] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Please ask any serious questions. I am happy to answer you to the fullest. Looking forward for your participation. I have a serious question, why do you keep reposting the same scam thread? The Pusher Man
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.05 14:58:00 - [4] I have obtained some isk from McRuder. His investment has been rewarded. I am now looking for more ambitious investors. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Sikozu Prioris Cirrius Technologies O X I D E	Posted - 2007.09.05 15:20:00 - [5] Not only does he post the same scam over and over, his end date of February 21, 2008 IS ONLY FIVE MONTHS AND TWO WEEKS AWAY He cant even add on 6 months from now
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.09.05 15:23:00 - [6] Originally by: Dr Slurm Says it all. It's A GIRL!!!!!
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.05 15:51:00 - [7] lawl, i <3 DragonRiderTao and his crazy floating head. You're persistant, I'll grant you that. I'm going to invest 30m with the understanding I'll probably never see it again. Its worth that much for the entertainment factor. Thanks DRT
Valacirca Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:05:00 - [8] Can I buy all 3bil worth of shares? This sounds solid.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:09:00 - [9] Originally by: Jaeger Orlofsson lawl, i <3 DragonRiderTao and his crazy floating head. You're persistant, I'll grant you that. I'm going to invest 30m with the understanding I'll probably never see it again. Its worth that much for the entertainment factor. Thanks DRT Thank you. Sikozu Prioris that is the end date. Excuse me for getting too excited. Originally by: Valacirca Can I buy all 3bil worth of shares? This sounds solid. I am not creating a corporation yet. You can be assured I keep notes of investment. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Hexxx Minmatar ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.09.05 16:42:00 - [10] I was going to write a page or two here about this... Then I suddenly realized it was a huge waste of time. Scam or no scam, this business plan has been poorly written. The previous venture had one investor who invested 20 million. That was returned JUST before he launched this one. Poor management, no disclosure, shoddy business plan, lack of transparency, no reporting at all....take your pick folks. Hexxx LLP - Business Consulting Services - IPO's, Business Plans, Share/Stock Pricing, and general Consulting.
tinuvin	Posted - 2007.09.05 17:43:00 - [11] Dragon I will make you a deal. I will invest in this business plan on a rolling scale, potentially upto 500 million ISK. The amount invested will depend upon a person recommending your business plan in this thread, or stating they plan to invest. I will leave it up to you to find an investor to publicly back you.
Dohkar Amarr Statler and Waldorf LLC	Posted - 2007.09.05 18:12:00 - [12] Originally by: tinuvin Dragon I will make you a deal. I will invest in this business plan on a rolling scale, potentially upto 500 million ISK. The amount invested will depend upon a person recommending your business plan in this thread, or stating they plan to invest. It's SOOO tempting to post "I support this fully" or "I'll invest 1 ISK" just to see what you'd say. I'm not that mean though...
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.09.05 22:22:00 - [13] Originally by: DragonRiderTao I have obtained some isk from McRuder. His investment has been rewarded. I am now looking for more ambitious investors. Ponzi scam (just getting rolling) Enough said.
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.09.05 23:41:00 - [14] Originally by: Hexxx I was going to write a page or two here about this... Then I suddenly realized it was a huge waste of time. Scam or no scam, this business plan has been poorly written. The previous venture had one investor who invested 20 million. That was returned JUST before he launched this one. Poor management, no disclosure, shoddy business plan, lack of transparency, no reporting at all....take your pick folks. QFT. I won't say this guy is a scammer, though I did follow his last proposal since it's when I kicked off mine. Reason why I wont say he's a scammer is there's not enough info to make that decision, and to be honest while a scammer skimps on details so he has a way out, a poor business manager just fails to put them in for no good reason. To save repeating things, Hexxx said it all. And I think that's all I've got to say here. Improve Market Competition!
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.09.06 00:01:00 - [15] Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Originally by: Hexxx I was going to write a page or two here about this... Then I suddenly realized it was a huge waste of time. Scam or no scam, this business plan has been poorly written. The previous venture had one investor who invested 20 million. That was returned JUST before he launched this one. Poor management, no disclosure, shoddy business plan, lack of transparency, no reporting at all....take your pick folks. QFT. I won't say this guy is a scammer, though I did follow his last proposal since it's when I kicked off mine. Reason why I wont say he's a scammer is there's not enough info to make that decision, and to be honest while a scammer skimps on details so he has a way out, a poor business manager just fails to put them in for no good reason. To save repeating things, Hexxx said it all. And I think that's all I've got to say here. But... but... you didn't answer the OP's question. The real question. Do. You. Wish. For. Wealth? Well, do ya?
Kylar Renpurs Dusk Blade	Posted - 2007.09.06 01:12:00 - [16] Edited by: Kylar Renpurs on 06/09/2007 01:12:36 Originally by: Ramblin Man Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Originally by: Hexxx I was going to write a page or two here about this... Then I suddenly realized it was a huge waste of time. Scam or no scam, this business plan has been poorly written. The previous venture had one investor who invested 20 million. That was returned JUST before he launched this one. Poor management, no disclosure, shoddy business plan, lack of transparency, no reporting at all....take your pick folks. QFT. I won't say this guy is a scammer, though I did follow his last proposal since it's when I kicked off mine. Reason why I wont say he's a scammer is there's not enough info to make that decision, and to be honest while a scammer skimps on details so he has a way out, a poor business manager just fails to put them in for no good reason. To save repeating things, Hexxx said it all. And I think that's all I've got to say here. But... but... you didn't answer the OP's question. The real question. Do. You. Wish. For. Wealth? Well, do ya? Hmmm,,, I think I just got a real-life money making idea,,, starts printing t-shirts with DYWFW? on them Think my biggest rival would be the printers of WWCYFD? Improve Market Competition!
Morcam	Posted - 2007.09.06 01:18:00 - [17] Is he still trying? Wow... he's persistent...
Calladen Nimitz Caldari Sovereign Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.06 01:42:00 - [18] Incredible...... SOVEREIGN ENTERPRISES WEBPAGE AND FORUMS
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.09.06 05:12:00 - [19] Edited by: Ramblin Man on 06/09/2007 05:13:37 Originally by: Kylar Renpurs Originally by: Ramblin Man [Quotes] But... but... you didn't answer the OP's question. The real question. Do. You. Wish. For. Wealth? Well, do ya? Hmmm,,, I think I just got a real-life money making idea,,, starts printing t-shirts with DYWFW? on them Think my biggest rival would be the printers of WWCYFD? http://eveipo.ytmnd.com/ Too bad, I gets the cools link already,!
pain supplier Amarr	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:20:00 - [20] The OP has to be the most persistant failed scammer in EVE.
Galgorth	Posted - 2007.09.06 11:44:00 - [21] Originally by: Ramblin Man Edited by: Ramblin Man on 06/09/2007 05:13:37 http://eveipo.ytmnd.com/ Too bad, I gets the cools link already,! hahahahah
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.06 13:53:00 - [22] I continue my ventures with my own capital. My last public investment was returned. My private investors are all otherwise engaged. I am seeking ambitious people. Let me provide you with wealth. Let us experience mutual growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.09.06 15:05:00 - [23] Edited by: Ramblin Man on 06/09/2007 15:05:42 Originally by: DragonRiderTao Originally by: Ramblin Man So, my question, "How do you expect to compete with similar ventures who show potential investors more respect and security?" Security in EVE is nothing but words. I provide the wealth that everyone needs. The final remnants of the venture are returned at the end of the term as additional growth. Read the new thread for the current updates. When choosing between multiple investment options, we do make the choice on only words. So why should I invest in your idea, which comes with fewer words from one person, as opposed to another, which comes with many words from multiple people, including many quite-elderly characters? (no offense intended DS, but you're getting up there)
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.06 16:06:00 - [24] Originally by: DragonRiderTao I continue my ventures with my own capital. My last public investment was returned. My private investors are all otherwise engaged. I am seeking ambitious people. Let me provide you with wealth. Let us experience mutual growth. You paid back 20m to the last investor. Now you are asking for 3 billion isk. How about you drop the requirement down, prove you can be trusted, and work your way up the ladder like everyone else? Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Hexxx Minmatar ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.09.06 17:14:00 - [25] Originally by: DragonRiderTao I continue my ventures with my own capital. My last public investment was returned. My private investors are all otherwise engaged. I am seeking ambitious people. Let me provide you with wealth. Let us experience mutual growth. Have these private investors vouche for you, and you'll get alot farther. Hexxx LLP - Business Consulting Services - IPO's, Business Plans, Share/Stock Pricing, and general Consulting.
Jennai The Silent Rage R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.06 20:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Hexxx Have these private investors vouche for you, and you'll get alot farther. but we already went through this in all the other threads, and he's unwilling/unable to provide anything that would give him any credibility
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.06 20:57:00 - [27] Edited by: DragonRiderTao on 06/09/2007 20:58:11 Originally by: Ramblin Man ]When choosing between multiple investment options, we do make the choice on only words. So why should I invest in your idea, which comes with fewer words from one person, as opposed to another, which comes with many words from multiple people, including many quite-elderly characters? (no offense intended DS, but you're getting up there) Everyone starts somewhere. All I am asking is for a chance. My plan can start with any amount. The amount I have mentioned is the maximum amount I believe I will efficiently handle. Originally by: Ricdic You paid back 20m to the last investor. Now you are asking for 3 billion isk. How about you drop the requirement down, prove you can be trusted, and work your way up the ladder like everyone else? Anyone can invest any sum. You can invest 5 million. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Macon Squaredealer Squaredeal Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.06 21:12:00 - [28] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Do you wish for wealth? I desire an "ignore" feature for the forum's more than wealth. ___________________________________________ Watch for the Squaredeal Enterprises IPO in the coming months.
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus	Posted - 2007.09.06 21:52:00 - [29] I just had an epiphany of sorts.... If we all just quit replying to his post (i think we have all posted enough to disuade any potential investors) it would just fade to page 391 of the market forum...other than the occasssional bump from the OP.
Shakuul Caldari O RLY corp YTMND.	Posted - 2007.09.06 23:44:00 - [30] How does the OP get the floating head as his pic?
Dr Slurm General Commodities	Posted - 2007.09.07 00:48:00 - [31] Edited by: Dr Slurm on 07/09/2007 00:48:36 Originally by: DragonRiderTao Edited by: DragonRiderTao on 06/09/2007 20:58:11 Originally by: Ramblin Man ]When choosing between multiple investment options, we do make the choice on only words. So why should I invest in your idea, which comes with fewer words from one person, as opposed to another, which comes with many words from multiple people, including many quite-elderly characters? (no offense intended DS, but you're getting up there) Everyone starts somewhere. All I am asking is for a chance. My plan can start with any amount. The amount I have mentioned is the maximum amount I believe I will efficiently handle. Originally by: Ricdic You paid back 20m to the last investor. Now you are asking for 3 billion isk. How about you drop the requirement down, prove you can be trusted, and work your way up the ladder like everyone else? Anyone can invest any sum. You can invest 5 million. You were given a chance... to answer questions and proove yourself. But you chose instead to make no response to very many legit questions and requests. success the first page is full. I would say its now time to stop bumping this, no chance that anyone will miss the message presented by the forum. Tired of the inane ramblings of the incompetent? Click here
Morcam	Posted - 2007.09.07 01:14:00 - [32] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Edited by: DragonRiderTao on 06/09/2007 20:58:11 Originally by: Ramblin Man ]When choosing between multiple investment options, we do make the choice on only words. So why should I invest in your idea, which comes with fewer words from one person, as opposed to another, which comes with many words from multiple people, including many quite-elderly characters? (no offense intended DS, but you're getting up there) Everyone starts somewhere. All I am asking is for a chance. My plan can start with any amount. The amount I have mentioned is the maximum amount I believe I will efficiently handle. Originally by: Ricdic You paid back 20m to the last investor. Now you are asking for 3 billion isk. How about you drop the requirement down, prove you can be trusted, and work your way up the ladder like everyone else? Anyone can invest any sum. You can invest 5 million. How about 1 isk? I will send it to you the next time I log on. Use it well, you might be able to buy a piece of tritanium with it if you're a smart trader.
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.08 09:49:00 - [33] isk sent
Investigador Caldari Hator inc	Posted - 2007.09.09 11:03:00 - [34] Edited by: Investigador on 09/09/2007 11:03:35 Originally by: DragonRiderTao Let me provide you with wealth. Let us experience mutual growth. That sounds........ ***. I was just thinking about how his motto sounds like a viagra ad when I read this line EDIT: Well, hit "quote" to see the censored word.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.10 20:45:00 - [35] Originally by: Jaeger Orlofsson isk sent Thank you. Your 30 000 000 isk will experience growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.09.10 21:10:00 - [36] Originally by: tinuvin Dragon I will make you a deal. I will invest in this business plan on a rolling scale, potentially upto 500 million ISK. The amount invested will depend upon a person recommending your business plan in this thread, or stating they plan to invest. I will leave it up to you to find an investor to publicly back you. Jaeger Orlofsson has sent an investment. He has confirmed it twice in this thread. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
tinuvin	Posted - 2007.09.10 22:18:00 - [37] Dragon your only investor gave you 30 million ISK for "entertainment value", hardly a ringing endorsement. But saying that I am a man of my word so I have sent you 20 ISK. I am looking forward to you turning it into "wealth"
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus	Posted - 2007.09.11 17:02:00 - [38] Originally by: tinuvin ....I have sent you 20 ISK. I am looking forward to you turning it into "wealth" ROFLOL....That is priceless....I think I will post it in my bio
McRuder Gallente Stratagem Inc Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.13 10:30:00 - [39] I made an investment of 20 mill into his scheme. He repaid me 45 million after 3 months and a bit. I will simply reinvest the returned amount into his scheme. Please be very clear on this: I do not endorse him or his product as yet. One investment do not make for endorsements. On that vein, I also never endorse anything in Eve, as its just to easy to scam in this game. I have seen people building relations over years only to take everything and run in the end. There is zero commitment in this game from anyone to anyone. I did not become a multi-billionaire in this game by being a fool and trusting people. I view all the posters in this thread with same view. I do not care how much you think of yourself or your own "succesful" schemes, and even less of what you think of me and my investment methods. I make my own decisions based on what I see. So why this post? I got an email from the OP requesting some help, and endorsement. This is my help by stating the fact he took my money and returned it with interest. So I will give him money again. Big red scam signs all over his posts with NONE & ZERO proof does not make a good argument - its an opinion.
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.09.13 10:38:00 - [40] Originally by: McRuder Big red scam signs all over his posts with NONE & ZERO proof does not make a good argument - its an opinion. An argument is first, by definition, an opinion. An opposing one but an opinion. I'm glad he's trustworthy with 20m. Did he: - Keep in touch with you while he held your money? - Did he inform you of what he did with that money? - Besides the return of more than double your money (Good thing there) was there any thing else that would have you recommend this person? These are the questions that as of yet, many many months, have consistently failed to be addressed by the OP and/or anyone else. Answers to these questions do not a guarantee make nor does the lack of them automatically a scam make however anecdotal evidence suggests that the latter is more likely to be a scam than the former. Plain and simple: Invest at your own risk at all times. Invest with the OP at the most extreme of risks. It's A GIRL!!!!!
McRuder Gallente Stratagem Inc Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.13 12:19:00 - [41] He kept in touch during via evemail from time to time. Frankly I do not care what he did with the money. Whether he sold his secondhand underwear, or bred dodo birdies by sitting on rocks, I do not care. He said he will take my money and promised a return of some % - that's what I am interested in. He delivered on that promise and exceeded it. I got back better than expected - I am happy with that. Unless I know the person personally, and have looked into his eyes, and wrote his address in my black book, then no I do not recommend anyone. Sorry this is Eve - that is the way it is. Just the same I would not just invest in any of the other posters' schemes no matter how eloquent, or how many pages of blurb they contain. I suspect this person is from a different culture, therefore his approach and method is unorthodox. I have no judgment on his discussion of the issues or the answer/non answer of the posts. What I did see was consistency in his approach and answers. The couple of noob attempts to endorse himself was just LoL to me. It does not prove anything to me. Anecdotal evidence? Thats word of mouth - and most of that is people calling the OP a scammer without proper evidence. I want to hear in the least: "He scammed me .. he took x and never gave it back ... he disappeared with it". Supported by a screenie of the transaction of course. Likely a scammer? Probably yes. So is everyone else. Like I said before: this is Eve - nobody has any commitment to anyone else. I take my chances with everyone in this game. Every investment is a game of chance taken on your own risk. This topic is like farting against a wall - I will waste no more time with it.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.13 16:20:00 - [42] Recently there has been much strife. It does not affect industry. There is wealth in the land. Together we experience growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.13 18:05:00 - [43] I would feel bad if this guy truly was legit. All the crap we have laid down on him and he still keeps coming back, doesn't respond with attacks of any sort. Tell you what, if consistency equalled trust, this guy would be holding dev petition isk reserves as an investment. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.10.13 23:43:00 - [44] Some might say consistency equals boredom and an alt, but that'd be relatively pessimistic. Welcome to the dark side old friend. . _Shar Where we hate people through words.
Digital Nightfall	Posted - 2007.10.14 01:05:00 - [45] Originally by: McRuder He kept in touch during via evemail from time to time. Frankly I do not care what he did with the money. Whether he sold his secondhand underwear, or bred dodo birdies by sitting on rocks, I do not care. He said he will take my money and promised a return of some % - that's what I am interested in. He delivered on that promise and exceeded it. I got back better than expected - I am happy with that. Unless I know the person personally, and have looked into his eyes, and wrote his address in my black book, then no I do not recommend anyone. Sorry this is Eve - that is the way it is. Just the same I would not just invest in any of the other posters' schemes no matter how eloquent, or how many pages of blurb they contain. I suspect this person is from a different culture, therefore his approach and method is unorthodox. I have no judgment on his discussion of the issues or the answer/non answer of the posts. What I did see was consistency in his approach and answers. The couple of noob attempts to endorse himself was just LoL to me. It does not prove anything to me. Anecdotal evidence? Thats word of mouth - and most of that is people calling the OP a scammer without proper evidence. I want to hear in the least: "He scammed me .. he took x and never gave it back ... he disappeared with it". Supported by a screenie of the transaction of course. Likely a scammer? Probably yes. So is everyone else. Like I said before: this is Eve - nobody has any commitment to anyone else. I take my chances with everyone in this game. Every investment is a game of chance taken on your own risk. This topic is like farting against a wall - I will waste no more time with it. Exactly what I was feeling when I read this thread, and the others posted before from the OP. Because of the handfull of people, falling over themselves to repost their distrust in you, I'm going to invest in your buisness plan. I have not seen anyone here post that you took their money, ate their children and burned their wives so far. Ive only seen rather rabid responses from the established buisness people, which by its very nature bothers me. I understand caution, and you are unconventional and almost naive in your way of presenting your buisness plan. However, I dont think it justifies the numerous accusations of your intent and motives at all. I feel like you are the odd ball in the sandbox, and the cool kids are poking fun at you. I dont think you're a scammer, mostly because of the downright self mutilation you'd have to be into, to keep comming back for more here. And as such I respect your composure and level headedness in the face of such opposition. You can take my isk and turn them into more. Everyone else in the thread : talk to the hand, or better yet, shaddap! Youve plastered your opinions all over the threads by this guy. We have all read your views already, shut the hell up already. Its nauseating to watch the buisness police roll in over and over again. One post, state your opinions, and then ftlog and all things fluffy get over yourselves already.
Letias Caldari Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:00:00 - [46] Originally by: Digital Nightfall Edited by: Digital Nightfall on 14/10/2007 01:48:30 Everyone else in the thread : talk to the hand, or better yet, shaddap! Youve plastered your opinions all over the threads by this guy. We have all read your views, shush already. Even as a preemptive meassure to supposedly help those who might fall for a scam, your spamming the threads completely drowns out any perhaps legitimate concerns, and reads much more as plain trolling. Its annoying to watch the buisness police roll in over and over again. One post, state your opinions, and then ftlog and all things fluffy get over yourselves already. Do you Wish for growth as well?
Digital Nightfall	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:07:00 - [47] Originally by: Dr Slurm Here's are link to his previous scam attempts: This was his first attempt. When that thread started going in a direction he didn't like he created another thread to cover it up. Which the mods locked. Here he tries again and again. So without further ado: your point being? I thought I had already made it clear in my post, that I have read through all the spam/trolling/venting/boredom/cantstopmyselfrompostingagainandagainandagain already. Still arriving at my opinion :)
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:10:00 - [48] Nightfall, we do this because never ever ever want to see another scam again. Scams harm the business community as a whole and I will be the first to admit that it can be a barbaric form of self-regulation...but I choose that any day over another EIB scam or anything like it. If the business plan is written well and it shows thought has been put into it....the IPO is generally well recieved. His first error was a poorly thought out IPO...his second error was becoming very defensive about it when the questions came in. Being defensive is not very well recieved since it normally means the person has something to hide. Or...they have thin skin. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Letias Caldari Teikoku Trade Conglomerate Visions of Warfare	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:12:00 - [49] Best of luck to you, dunno if a solo investor can do too much though
Digital Nightfall	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:21:00 - [50] Originally by: Hexxx Nightfall, we do this because never ever ever want to see another scam again. Scams harm the business community as a whole and I will be the first to admit that it can be a barbaric form of self-regulation...but I choose that any day over another EIB scam or anything like it. If the business plan is written well and it shows thought has been put into it....the IPO is generally well recieved. His first error was a poorly thought out IPO...his second error was becoming very defensive about it when the questions came in. Being defensive is not very well recieved since it normally means the person has something to hide. Or...they have thin skin. So you think, when someone is recieved like this - that its unatural and suspiscious to respond with increasing exasperation. Thats very interesting. I find it quite understandable. And while I realise your motives for posting as much, and as thoroughly to his threads, over and over again, it still reads as trolling past a certain point, and I have still not seen anyone posting actual experience of having been scammed. Rather I've seen 1 person post he had his investment doubled. Now to me, that weighs so very much more on my mind when forming an opinion, than the posts made prior to that. This could be because I'm braindead, or only have 2 neurons that rarely collide to spark thought. Or you guys have been a little too overzealous and come across as more intent on seeing blood, than giving the guy a chance to prove himself. I dont expect every person to come up with a buisness plan capable of providing a professional looking schedule. Do I prefer it when they can, HELL YES! - but do I think that those who can't are scammers or incapable of making profit HELL NO! - some people are just not blessed with the same communication skills as others. Poking at them for that, blending over to attacking their motives and intentions is just plain wrong. Believe what you will, but thats a bandwagon I dont sit on. Anyways, thats the end of my contribution to this thread. Regards N'day
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:30:00 - [51] Originally by: Digital Nightfall Edited by: Digital Nightfall on 14/10/2007 02:27:39 Originally by: Hexxx Nightfall, we do this because never ever ever want to see another scam again. Scams harm the business community as a whole and I will be the first to admit that it can be a barbaric form of self-regulation...but I choose that any day over another EIB scam or anything like it. If the business plan is written well and it shows thought has been put into it....the IPO is generally well recieved. His first error was a poorly thought out IPO...his second error was becoming very defensive about it when the questions came in. Being defensive is not very well recieved since it normally means the person has something to hide. Or...they have thin skin. So you think, when someone is recieved like this - that its unatural and suspiscious to respond with increasing exasperation. Thats very interesting. I find it quite understandable. And while I realise your motives for posting as much, and as thoroughly to his threads, over and over again, it still reads as trolling past a certain point, and I have still not seen anyone posting actual experience of having been scammed. Rather I've seen 1 person post he had his investment doubled. Now to me, that weighs so very much more on my mind when forming an opinion, than the posts made prior to that. This could be because I'm braindead, or only have 2 neurons that rarely collide to spark thought. Or you guys have been a little too overzealous and come across as more intent on seeing blood, than giving the guy a chance to prove himself. I dont expect every person to come up with a buisness plan capable of providing a professional looking schedule. Do I prefer it when they can, HELL YES! - but do I think that those who can't are scammers or incapable of making profit HELL NO! - some people are just not blessed with the same communication skills as others. Poking at them for that, blending over to attacking their motives and intentions is just plain wrong. Believe what you will, but thats a bandwagon I dont sit on. Anyways, thats the end of my contribution to this thread. Regards N'day Edit: and yes, just to underline it, I do understand that your intentions come from a good place. But I think you guys get a little agressive when someone fails to meet the standards we are used to. Rather than telling him plainly: You cant get 3 billion isk, with such a naive IPO setup, refine it, look to these links for pointers. You rather spend much more energy to label him a scammer, attack his motives and intentions, which regardless at how you look at it, is just insulting him. Thats not befitting anyone who otherwise wishes to be respected for their opinions here. Please continue to post in these Forums. While I may not see eye to eye with you on this, you have a fresh perspective and that's valuable. You also put thought into your posts (another rare commodity). I urge you not to become jaded and cynical from this thread and the previous linked threads...time will take care of that eventually...but for now you would serve well as a counter-point to some of the older and more jaded and cynical persons (like me for example). At any rate, you seem new, but please stay around. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Dr Slurm General Commodities	Posted - 2007.10.14 02:33:00 - [52] Originally by: Digital Nightfall Originally by: Hexxx Nightfall, we do this because never ever ever want to see another scam again. Scams harm the business community as a whole and I will be the first to admit that it can be a barbaric form of self-regulation...but I choose that any day over another EIB scam or anything like it. If the business plan is written well and it shows thought has been put into it....the IPO is generally well recieved. His first error was a poorly thought out IPO...his second error was becoming very defensive about it when the questions came in. Being defensive is not very well recieved since it normally means the person has something to hide. Or...they have thin skin. So you think, when someone is recieved like this - that its unatural and suspiscious to respond with increasing exasperation. Thats very interesting. It indicates they have no other argument/defense to provide. Quote: I find it quite understandable. And while I realise your motives for posting as much, and as thoroughly to his threads, over and over again, it still reads as trolling past a certain point, and I have still not seen anyone posting actual experience of having been scammed. I consider posting the same lame attempt at an IPO with the same broken english repeatedly to be trolling. Quote: Rather I've seen 1 person post he had his investment doubled. Now to me, that weighs so very much more on my mind when forming an opinion, than the posts made prior to that. You might not have noticed but he "doubled" that investment (all of 20m I think) about 5 minutes before he made this most recent thread to attempt to give himself a grain of integrity. Quote: This could be because I'm braindead, or only have 2 neurons that rarely collide to spark thought. Or you guys have been a little too overzealous and come across as more intent on seeing blood, than giving the guy a chance to prove himself. I dont expect every person to come up with a buisness plan capable of providing a professional looking schedule. Do I prefer it when they can, HELL YES! - but do I think that those who can't are scammers or incapable of making profit HELL NO! - some people are just not blessed with the same communication skills as others. Poking at them for that, blending over to attacking their motives and intentions is just plain wrong. Believe what you will, but thats a bandwagon I dont sit on. Anyways, thats the end of my contribution to this thread. Regards N'day He was given plenty of chances in previous threads to justify and defend himself. He wasn't capable and chose not to. He has now been marked with the scarlet letter(s). <sig> Tired of the inane ramblings of the incompetent? Click here </sig>
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.15 14:07:00 - [53] Thank you for the support. The current market instability provides a good atmosphere for trade. The urge for equilibrium allows for growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.15 14:55:00 - [54] Originally by: Letias Best of luck to you, dunno if a solo investor can do too much though You may also invest for growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.15 15:20:00 - [55] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Thank you for the support. The current market instability provides a good atmosphere for trade. The urge for equilibrium allows for growth. I will say...this is a cryptic statement, but there is some truth to be read here. Arbitrage doesn't last long since the market generally corrects ineffeciencies. If he's implying the the market is going to correct itself...and he's managed to somehow get into a position on the side which will rise to meet the market correction...then he may make some money. Hypothetical of course. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Khardiun	Posted - 2007.10.15 15:58:00 - [56] I will never invest in an IPO that is worded this badly. I'm a new player myself and have been lurking the market forum for about three weeks. I'm considering launching my own IPO. If it was anywhere near as badly worded as this pile of garbage, I'm afraid I would never be taken seriously by this community ever again. That probably wouldn't be a bad thing. Shame on all you people for giving this guy isk!
Frogsley Babylon. Combined Planetary Union	Posted - 2007.10.15 16:20:00 - [57] Do not question the floating head! Do not expect money from the floating head! Cower before him, before his floating head! Offer him money as a tribute to his floating-headness. That is all.
Rhiraven Gallente Epic Empire Exa Nation	Posted - 2007.10.15 20:26:00 - [58] lol I can't believe you people are giving this guy money. I guess he has entertainment value... -
Terminus adacai Caldari	Posted - 2007.10.15 21:18:00 - [59] How is 8% return over 6 months considered "wealth"? And this has to be the poorest business plan I have seen proposed yet. Opinions reflected on my posts are just that, my opinions. They do not reflect views held by my corp or alliance.
Kaaii Caldari Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes	Posted - 2007.10.15 21:44:00 - [60] I really think your dragon has been officially slayed.. . According to Oveur, existing LSAA's already anchored will stay there. kieron Director of Community Relations,
Zolcan Amarr Praetoria Shipyards	Posted - 2007.10.16 03:17:00 - [61] If nothing else this guy is entertaining. Zolcan PRAETORIA WEBPAGE
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.10.16 08:34:00 - [62] Originally by: Frogsley Do not question the floating head! Do not expect money from the floating head! Cower before him, before his floating head! Offer him money as a tribute to his floating-headness. That is all. EPIC!
tinuvin	Posted - 2007.10.16 18:47:00 - [63] I have to give Dragon his due. I invested 2 ISK for wealth and after a month he has sent me 3 ISK. 150% return ..... woot!!!
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.16 19:54:00 - [64] Originally by: Terminus adacai How is 8% return over 6 months considered "wealth"? And this has to be the poorest business plan I have seen proposed yet. The wealth grows by 8% monthly. Do not hesitate. Share the growth with me. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Karanth Gallente Crazy 88's	Posted - 2007.10.17 01:55:00 - [65] Words fail. How is this even viewed as a reasonable person, by anyone? As expressed by another poster so eloquently, I would rather be shot in the face with a hammer gun than live if my posting were to devolve to that point. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Flied Rice	Posted - 2007.10.17 06:43:00 - [66] I am mesmerized by the floating head. I must invest. I bow to the floating head!
Karanth Gallente Crazy 88's	Posted - 2007.10.17 06:52:00 - [67] Originally by: Frogsley Do not question the floating head! Do not expect money from the floating head! Cower before him, before his floating head! Offer him money as a tribute to his floating-headness. That is all. That's all well and good, but will the floating head BLEND!? All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Bringing Sexyback	Posted - 2007.10.17 07:33:00 - [68] I have transfered 10 million to the floating head! show me wealth!
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:07:00 - [69] Originally by: Bringing Sexyback I have transfered 10 million to the floating head! show me wealth! Your trust will be rewarded with satisfaction. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.17 15:47:00 - [70] Originally by: Karanth Words fail. How is this even viewed as a reasonable person, by anyone? As expressed by another poster so eloquently, I would rather be shot in the face with a hammer gun than live if my posting were to devolve to that point. Violence in the face does not assure you wealth for months to come. All the details are explained. Ask questions for reiteration. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Bringing Sexyback	Posted - 2007.10.17 16:56:00 - [71] How can you not invest with this guy... The floating head, the Confusious sayings. This dude is my new Eve Hero! I am anxious to see how my 10m invest prospers! Best quote ever: Violence in the face does not assure you wealth for months to come You must invest! I afterall Wish for wealth!
Karanth Gallente Crazy 88's	Posted - 2007.10.18 00:20:00 - [72] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Originally by: Karanth Words fail. How is this even viewed as a reasonable person, by anyone? As expressed by another poster so eloquently, I would rather be shot in the face with a hammer gun than live if my posting were to devolve to that point. Violence in the face does not assure you wealth for months to come. All the details are explained. Ask questions for reiteration. I just sold a whole pile of Scordite for 350% market value, and paid a pittance for it. I'm well ahead, and only getting farther. Epic fail. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.30 15:32:00 - [73] Those who invest have seen growth. There is more to follow. Do not hesitate to act now for all your dreams to become reality. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Mephistocles Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2007.10.30 15:44:00 - [74] I really don't understand why you people list his floating head as a reason not to invest. Has no one ever heard of Jambi? "Mekka-lekka hi mekka hiney ho!" "Mekka-lekka hi mekka chahney ho!" "Mola-mekka chala mekka hola hayla hey!" "The wish for wealth has been granted. Long live DragonRiderTao."
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.10.30 22:04:00 - [75] Let such men prosper that have good faith towards those who share blessings. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.11.12 14:58:00 - [76] Those who seek wealth may still invest. All plans for this big man are on schedule. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
MasterTao Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.12 15:57:00 - [77] Just to clarify i'm not related to this person in any shape or dragon form. but gl on whatever is it that you are trying to do.
SiJira	Posted - 2007.11.12 19:32:00 - [78] Originally by: MasterTao Just to clarify i'm not related to this person in any shape or dragon form. but gl on whatever is it that you are trying to do. no one would consider it lots of people share names and are totally unrelated ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
Ulstan Caldari	Posted - 2007.11.12 21:22:00 - [79] Why does every sentence this guy writes sound like something out of a fortune cookie? Seriously, does this look like a bad attempt at poetry to anyone else? Recently there has been much strife. It does not affect industry. There is wealth in the land. Together we experience growth.
Atherin Gaius Caldari Domini Umbrus VENOM Alliance	Posted - 2007.11.12 21:46:00 - [80] like a haiku?
SiJira	Posted - 2007.11.12 22:10:00 - [81] not sure why mine and mastertaos posts dissapeared but he clarified that this thread is of no relation to him you can still find both posts through eve search ____ __ ________ _sig below_ devs and gms cant modify my sig if they tried! _lies above_ CCP Morpheus was here Morpheus Fails. You need colors!! -Kaemonn [yellow]Kaem
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.11.16 15:32:00 - [82] Nature has provided to this humble man. If you wish for growth there is still time. Man earns value for every creature trusted. Together let us strive for wealth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Macon Squaredealer Squaredeal Enterprises	Posted - 2007.11.16 16:23:00 - [83] Your golden business plan I fine extreme compelling! Isk give to you from me in buckets large! ___________________________________________ Watch for the Squaredeal Enterprises IPO in the coming months.
Molari Gracie ironwood ink	Posted - 2007.11.16 18:57:00 - [84] Your business plan Reads like a fortune cookie Hope you profit much Red head floats in air Many doubt your true sanity Profit, or Epic Fail? Market Haiku! Invest in me! Me!
Bringing Sexyback	Posted - 2007.11.16 23:43:00 - [85] I just wanted to let everyone know that i recieved 800k from the OP for my investment. Time will tell, but as for now this doesn't appear to be a scam, just a language barrier. I wish for wealth! LOL
Ramblin Man Empyreum	Posted - 2007.11.17 02:30:00 - [86] Originally by: Bringing Sexyback I just wanted to let everyone know that i recieved 800k from the OP for my investment. Time will tell, but as for now this doesn't appear to be a scam, just a language barrier. I wish for wealth! LOL I decided to invest in Molari Gracie's haiku-heavy portfolio instead. drops 500k into the felt hat and continues his stroll across the forums Welcome to the dark side old friend. .Shar Where we hate people through words.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.11.20 19:35:00 - [87] The economy is strong. Do not forget the wealth. Invest to experience growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Calgorac The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.11.24 03:23:00 - [88] rrr Latest News
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.12.10 16:18:00 - [89] The growth is exciting us all. Invest to receive wealth. It is not too late. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Daeva Vios PhaseShifter Technologies	Posted - 2007.12.10 19:09:00 - [90] When will you give up? This was slightly amusing the first time around, but seriously...
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.12.10 19:20:00 - [91] Originally by: Daeva Vios When will you give up? This was slightly amusing the first time around, but seriously... Our growth has been constant. We will continue providing wealth to those who invest. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.12.11 08:34:00 - [92] Remember, dear, I still have that Hammer Gun. I also have locater agents. Lacking a neck only means that I save ammo, and don't need to get my guillotine dirty. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.12.11 09:33:00 - [93] In fairness DRT has been making payouts. It remains to be seen whether it is a simple ponzi scam or not but I have also had convo's with him and emails so I have enjoyed growth in some respects. Hey, I've had far more enjoyment from this investment than I did from UEMA and that was a lot more dough spent. I cant endorse this, not that my comments hold weight compared to the 'big hitters' of the market discussion section - but I do hope DRT is enjoying himself as I am. <3 to all Jaeger
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.11 11:49:00 - [94] I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.11 11:52:00 - [95] Originally by: Ricdic I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. sweet a ricdic endorsement...watch the investment lemmings pour in......... --
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.11 15:17:00 - [96] Lol let the records show that Treelox is joking Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
McRuder Gallente Magnets and Duct Tape	Posted - 2007.12.11 15:34:00 - [97] I invested 45 mill isk in him several months ago. Last 3 dividend payments: - 2007.12.10 16:08 3,600,000 isk. - 2007.11.12 15:12 3,600,000 isk. - 2007.10.13 16:13 4,950,000 isk.
Ulstan	Posted - 2007.12.11 19:42:00 - [98] Quote: Violence in the face does not assure you wealth for months to come. Ha ha, awesome. This has gotta be some guy just having fun with everyone :p
Aeon Yakati Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.12.11 21:19:00 - [99] A sound business plan. Would you perhaps be in need of logistical help?
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.12.11 21:43:00 - [100] Edited by: Shadarle on 11/12/2007 21:43:52 I have a surefire way to make sure he doesn't scam me of 20 billion isk... Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.12.20 15:57:00 - [101] Originally by: Aeon Yakati A sound business plan. Would you perhaps be in need of logistical help? Your offer is noted. For now our growth meets requirements. If you seek wealth do not hesitate to invest. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.12.20 20:38:00 - [102] Investments have increased. Satisfaction is beyond wealth. Let the beginning fulfill your dreams. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2007.12.20 21:28:00 - [103] I like the cut of his jib. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
Hersheff	Posted - 2007.12.20 21:45:00 - [104] as a Tibetan monk wold say: "I seek the wealth within myself" _______ all right for this quote belongs to me, if you do wish to quote me ... send some isk.
Raskor	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:07:00 - [105] Originally by: Ricdic I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. If it's good enough for Ricdic, it's good enough for me. 50m isk sent. Please send me much wealth in return!
Treelox Amarr Market Jihadist Revolutionary Party	Posted - 2007.12.24 06:11:00 - [106] Originally by: Raskor Originally by: Ricdic I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. If it's good enough for Ricdic, it's good enough for me. 50m isk sent. Please send me much wealth in return! Originally by: Treelox Originally by: Ricdic I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. sweet a ricdic endorsement...watch the investment lemmings pour in......... Originally by: Ricdic Lol let the records show that Treelox is joking apparently I was not joking..... --
Riethe	Posted - 2007.12.24 08:43:00 - [107] I sort of get the impression that Raskor is just trying to stir up trouble. People can't be that stupid, can they? Oh....
McRuder Gallente Magnets and Duct Tape	Posted - 2007.12.24 09:10:00 - [108] Originally by: Riethe People can't be that stupid, can they? Oh.... Increased my investment with DRT to 100 million (+55 million).
abbagabba Gallente Monster Raving Loonies	Posted - 2007.12.24 14:38:00 - [109] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Violence in the face does not assure you wealth for months to come. this is just too good, this guy should be a writer. 10M sent for the best thread ever. As long as we get posts for months to come I'm happy!
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.12.24 15:44:00 - [110] He works for the fortune cookie company. He has too! How else does he get all this material! http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=500043 Largest Empire Research Alliance in EVE!
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2007.12.29 19:11:00 - [111] Wealth increases each moon half cycle. The stars align for growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2007.12.30 04:33:00 - [112] We surrender in the face of such consistency. It seems our assessments of this investment were not correct. We will be sending 5mil to this persistent paragon of fortune. All that's left... There is only one sig hijack that matters, the orginal and only member of the hijack squad. me. -Eris. ps Black russians are better then beer. Well, there's not many of us left! -Rauth
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.01.05 18:30:00 - [113] The the earth rodent is almost here. Wishes for wealth are granted many times. Invest for the growth experience. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.01.05 19:06:00 - [114] Originally by: Karanth We surrender in the face of such consistency. It seems our assessments of this investment were not correct. We will be sending 5mil to this persistent paragon of fortune. Investment received. Flames burn out in weeks. Wealth will follow. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2008.01.05 19:45:00 - [115] Dragon stop spamming here and here. ~Nyron Originally by: SoftRevolution Not liking Haruhi is like not liking puppies or rainbows or whisky.
Raskor	Posted - 2008.01.05 20:17:00 - [116] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Originally by: Karanth We surrender in the face of such consistency. It seems our assessments of this investment were not correct. We will be sending 5mil to this persistent paragon of fortune. Investment received. Flames burn out in weeks. Wealth will follow. Originally by: Raskor Originally by: Ricdic I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. If it's good enough for Ricdic, it's good enough for me. 50m isk sent. Please send me much wealth in return! Dragon, please confirm that my investment was received. 2007.12.24 / 06:03 / 50,000,000.00 isk
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.01.05 20:46:00 - [117] Originally by: Raskor Originally by: DragonRiderTao Originally by: Karanth We surrender in the face of such consistency. It seems our assessments of this investment were not correct. We will be sending 5mil to this persistent paragon of fortune. Investment received. Flames burn out in weeks. Wealth will follow. Originally by: Raskor Originally by: Ricdic I am chucking 50m into this. Sorry but his consistency is fantastic if all else has failed. If it's good enough for Ricdic, it's good enough for me. 50m isk sent. Please send me much wealth in return! Dragon, please confirm that my investment was received. 2007.12.24 / 06:03 / 50,000,000.00 isk Your contribution to wealth is confirmed. Prepare for enhanced growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Siri Blue Gallente Arachnea Phoenix Battalion Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.05 21:06:00 - [118] The floating head sounds a bit like rawcola... But even more like the Great Nagus! bows to the great floating head
Concordokken Plox	Posted - 2008.01.05 23:59:00 - [119] I want a floating head
Vedz Caldari	Posted - 2008.01.06 01:48:00 - [120] Edited by: Vedz on 06/01/2008 01:49:45 Originally by: Hexxx I was going to write a page or two here about this... Then I suddenly realized it was a huge waste of time. Scam or no scam, this business plan has been poorly written. The previous venture had one investor who invested 20 million. That was returned JUST before he launched this one. Poor management, no disclosure, shoddy business plan, lack of transparency, no reporting at all....take your pick folks. Hexxx is right. At least EBANK has the decency to provides forged financial statements for their scams. OP doesn't even do that, which is really inconsiderate.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.06 02:13:00 - [121] Originally by: Vedz Edited by: Vedz on 06/01/2008 01:49:45 Originally by: Hexxx I was going to write a page or two here about this... Then I suddenly realized it was a huge waste of time. Scam or no scam, this business plan has been poorly written. The previous venture had one investor who invested 20 million. That was returned JUST before he launched this one. Poor management, no disclosure, shoddy business plan, lack of transparency, no reporting at all....take your pick folks. Hexxx is right. At least EBANK has the decency to provides forged financial statements for their scams. OP doesn't even do that, which is really inconsiderate. You're just mad that I use big words. Free advice; bookmark wikipedia and come up with another word for "shill". You'll find your levels of frustration will go down. Oh, also, another bit of advice. If you want to run a smear campaign against me (which you've been doing across multiple threads), at least have a platform. Your accusations don't have any meat to them, and no one will take you seriously untill they do. Got a problem with my reports? Then point it out for all to see. Tossing around accusations and statements like "x is a scam" without evidence or a decent arguement is a good way to lose your reputation around here. Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Vena Sablentea	Posted - 2008.01.08 15:09:00 - [122] Originally by: Hexxx Tossing around accusations and statements like "x is a scam" without evidence or a decent arguement is a good way to lose your reputation around here. Not sure he ever had any...
SencneS Amarr Spartan Industrial Manufacturing SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2008.01.08 15:26:00 - [123] Originally by: Vena Sablentea Not sure he ever had any... One thing is for certain, he is getting one now As for the Dragon, I'll admit I was so sceptically of this didn't post in any of his threads. If he continues to be legit, he'll fast become one of the most memorable characters in MD to date. Amarr for Life
Yolos1 Minmatar	Posted - 2008.01.08 19:57:00 - [124] Edited by: Yolos1 on 08/01/2008 20:08:17 the head speaks and I laugh. I sent 10mil. Please confirm and send wealth soon.
Brisco Smiley Peppermint Bay Trading Company	Posted - 2008.01.08 23:31:00 - [125] Do you wish for wisdom?
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.01.12 17:25:00 - [126] Edited by: DragonRiderTao on 12/01/2008 17:25:18 Invest for wealth. Accepting isk until January the 21 10:30 Eve time. Soon wealth will be yours. A new plan will be discussed. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Kyrial Tidolfas	Posted - 2008.01.13 17:05:00 - [127] you make me giggle.
Ryu Kibegami	Posted - 2008.01.14 14:54:00 - [128] DragonRiderTao: Please contact me in game!
Molari Gracie ironwood ink	Posted - 2008.01.14 19:18:00 - [129] I took a month off the forums, and can't believe the fortune-cookie haiku investment plan is still running! DRT - let's see that new plan. I wish for wealth, I'll probably send you some money just to be in on the fun. At what investment level do I rate a customized fortune? 20 million? 50?
cosmoray	Posted - 2008.01.14 19:27:00 - [130] I must say I have more respect for this guy than any scammers or the poorly executed IPO's CEO's. No matter how much criticism or flames he comes back for more. He hasn't changed his business plan, he hasn't whined or moaned because his pet project got popped. Dragon I would love to know how much money you have raised on these forums, and also anyone who has made a return from investing. 10 out of 10 for tenacity and persistance.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.01.14 20:52:00 - [131] Soon wealth will return to all who seek growth. This burly man has received love. Disclosure of total wealth will follow. One week left to experience growth. Flames have been consistent. The land in preparation for future growth. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Ryu Kibegami	Posted - 2008.01.14 20:59:00 - [132] Personally, I will say he has produced what he says he will. I have been paid on time and in full. He has answered all questions with reasonable answers.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.01.14 21:13:00 - [133] Personally I think it would be great if this turned out to be a great success. Would be very amusing, if nothing else. _______________________________ I need new voices in my head, To speak my secret evils with. I need new lovers in my bed, To be my friends and special pets.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.01.14 21:37:00 - [134] Originally by: Minerva Vulcan Personally I think it would be great if this turned out to be a great success. Would be very amusing, if nothing else. Success for all who seek wealth. Transport and manufacture allow for constant bliss. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Raskor	Posted - 2008.01.16 03:07:00 - [135] Originally by: cosmoray Dragon I would love to know how much money you have raised on these forums, and also anyone who has made a return from investing. I have received one dividend payment so far; 4% interest for 2 weeks invested.
Kyrial Tidolfas	Posted - 2008.01.16 04:15:00 - [136] Originally by: Ryu Kibegami Personally, I will say he has produced what he says he will. I have been paid on time and in full. He has answered all questions with reasonable answers. so random fortune cookie readout is now considered reasonable answers??
Feyloan	Posted - 2008.01.16 08:28:00 - [137] For some inexplicable reason I am seeing my reservations towards this melt away.... I just cannot believe the persistancy of drt, simply first class.
jongalt	Posted - 2008.01.16 17:53:00 - [138] accept no substitute. -jg.
Alexi Stokov Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.01.16 19:08:00 - [139] DragonRiderTao, you have an impostor in your mist,DrakeRiderMao!!!
Relyen Caldari Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2008.01.17 02:01:00 - [140] I went ahead and invested a little bit. We'll see how things turn out :)
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:12:00 - [141] Growth is successful. Soon a great new beginning. Joy across the land. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Minerva Vulcan Caldari The Nexus Foundation Endless Horizon	Posted - 2008.02.11 20:33:00 - [142] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Growth is successful. Soon a great new beginning. Joy across the land. Exciting times!
Brisco Smiley Peppermint Bay Trading Company	Posted - 2008.02.11 21:54:00 - [143] Originally by: DragonRiderTao Growth is successful. Soon a great new beginning. Joy across the land.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.02.21 21:46:00 - [144] Growth complete. Thank you to everyone who invested. You will find wealth in your wallet. Contempt is fuel for your destruction. Fertility to those who harness them. The field rodents bring great gifts. Plague and destruction for doubt. His jaw was set with determination. He was staring straight ahead. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.21 22:05:00 - [145] Growth acheived! Isk Paid! Wishing to invest again! Floating head pays out!
Rhiraven Gallente The Jacktar Camorra	Posted - 2008.02.22 02:41:00 - [146] Lol he paid out? Can anyone confirm? What kind of return did you get?
Raskor	Posted - 2008.02.22 03:47:00 - [147] Originally by: Rhiraven Lol he paid out? Can anyone confirm? What kind of return did you get? I can confirm that my investment (50m isk) was returned, as well as periodic dividends reflecting an 8% per month interest rate.
Astorothe Aperture Science Industries	Posted - 2008.02.22 06:09:00 - [148] He's funny and he pay's out. Great mix Eve Web Design \| Eve Addicts \| RPGN.net
Karanth Gallente Eve's Brothers of Destiny Free Trade Zone.	Posted - 2008.02.22 06:38:00 - [149] I had doubts, but it was worth the ride. "Current Earth-Destruction Status"
Selene D'Celeste Caldari The D'Celeste Trading Company	Posted - 2008.02.22 07:04:00 - [150] What the hell ... so DRT is kind of like a creepy version of rawcola?
McRuder Gallente This Space 4 Rent	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:24:00 - [151] In my case the full amount invested was repaid, including a final dividend. I will at least double my investment in his next plan when it comes about.
YouGotRipped Gallente Ewigkeit	Posted - 2008.02.22 09:48:00 - [152] Originally by: McRuder In my case the full amount invested was repaid, including a final dividend. I will at least double my investment in his next plan when it comes about. Like Shar would say: "if you think it's wise..." hahah
Jaeger Orlofsson VentureCorp Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2008.02.22 11:50:00 - [153] Well I'd happily throw in my investment from this round and the interest paid if it means we can keep wishing for growth
Thoran Karlien Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2008.02.22 16:28:00 - [154] I can confirm, that I got the investment back. And looking at the first page, I will invest again. ____________________________ Whine : The only FOTM than never gets nerved or out of style!
Ryu Kibegami Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2008.02.22 18:49:00 - [155] What percentage did everyone get for the final payment 4 or 8%?
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.02.22 19:07:00 - [156] Originally by: Ryu Kibegami What percentage did everyone get for the final payment 4 or 8%? The wealth plan came to an end. Less than two weeks after the date of growth. Assured is your return as promised. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
DragonRiderTao	Posted - 2008.02.22 20:21:00 - [157] Everyone may assess their wealth. Fertility will come to you again. How many dragons can you slay? You cant slay mine.
Winston Egul	Posted - 2008.02.22 21:25:00 - [158] Going to invest one million for ****s and giggles. To see if I get a return or not :)

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