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Paddlefoot Aeon
Neogen Industries Fallen Souls
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:04:00 -
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So....
Everyone these days complains about speed tanked ships.... Cruisers that fly as fast, if not faster, than interceptors.
Why not create both static and deployable Webbing bubbles?
They work the same as Warp disruption bubbles, in that they can be anchored or deployed by dictors.
They would need to have a lower speed penalty than the standard webber (50% or something), and they would need to be mutually exclusive of the standard dictor bubbles.
So, if there is an active webber bubble, no warp disruption bubble can be anchored or deployed within the range of effect of the webber bubble, and vice versa.
Thoughts?
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Drelaz
Sybrite Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:07:00 -
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Warp bubbles are already one of the biggest reasons why you see so many blobs and so little solo/small gangs. So how about NO!
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:11:00 -
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Originally by: Drelaz Warp bubbles are already one of the biggest reasons why you see so many blobs and so little solo/small gangs. So how about NO!
Actually, if anything, dictors are the one thing that allow small gangs to operate in 0.0. Combined with speed, they give you the ability to dictate when and where you wish to engage. Unless, of course, you're outmaneuvered by the superior force.
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Laboratus
Gallente BGG League of Abnormal Gentlemen
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:14:00 -
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I support this idea.
It allows for different combat enviroments. Good thing... ___ P.S. Post with your main. Mind control and tin hats |
iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:22:00 -
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no
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar Union Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:23:00 -
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how about web-bombs for the stealth bomber that have a short duration and have a % chance to affect ppl :) -- Talking in Circles is more dizzying than walking in them...
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Death Merchant
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Ris Dnalor how about web-bombs for the stealth bomber that have a short duration and have a % chance to affect ppl :)
I like it Gives another use for stealth bombers. Allows counters to speed gangs other than rapiers.
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Regaul Kinath
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:32:00 -
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I support the ship disabling bombs! Ship would remain inactive for 10 seconds.
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Kruel
Blunt Force Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.05 15:35:00 -
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Bah, no. Warp bubbles are bad enough already.
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William Alex
Viscosity
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Posted - 2007.09.05 17:04:00 -
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I love warp bubbles, that and covert scouts are great tools for a small gang, allowing them to go into enemy space and make a difference.
Please give us a 1 depth skill queue CCP.
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.05 17:53:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 05/09/2007 17:56:16 yeh good idea, so small has 20 km range, med 30 and large 40. -30% speed on t1 and -35 or 40% on T2. So a 5 km/s nanoship is down to 3.5 km/s. A 7 km/s inty will go 5.6 km/s (Calculated with T1 bubble). Enough to make it to the gate.
I dont mind fast ships, but this would make sure that ships that cannot nano extremely well, wont try to nano anymore. Will also remove the "we need a mwd" to survive argument, "everything is closerange in eve", "omg he can leave when he wants" and "covert ops can move around supersave with mwd+cloak".
Originally by: Kruel Bah, no. Warp bubbles are bad enough already.
Warp to 0 made bubbles very, very necessarily. _________________________________________________ Breetime
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iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.09.05 17:57:00 -
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yes, kill small ships go ahead
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madaluap
Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: madaluap on 05/09/2007 18:02:07
Originally by: iiOs yes, kill small ships go ahead
Bubbles kill more small ships than a web bubble will. Interdictor bubbles and warpbubbles cannot be anchored/dropped? I see more oppertunities for amarr, caldari and minmatar (more range will mean something). _________________________________________________ Breetime
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magnus amadeus
Amarr Hammer Of Light
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:07:00 -
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Its nice to see that iiOs trolls in every single thread I have seen in this forum.
The problem with bubbles is that they are not deployable in low-sec, as you have probally noticed. Take for example motherships, they are still incredibly overpowered in low-sec, but in 0.0 they are fixed. To combat speed-tanks a counter needs to be available across the entire spectrum of systems and not just 0.0.
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iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: magnus amadeus Its nice to see that iiOs trolls in every single thread I have seen in this forum.
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troll? you might wanna look that word up
this ideas r stupid and unbalance game for smaller ships, lets just remove them, so we all can fly BS!
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iiOs
The Cry of Mankind
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:10:00 -
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Originally by: madaluap Edited by: madaluap on 05/09/2007 18:02:07
Originally by: iiOs yes, kill small ships go ahead
Bubbles kill more small ships than a web bubble will. Interdictor bubbles and warpbubbles cannot be anchored/dropped? I see more oppertunities for amarr, caldari and minmatar (more range will mean something).
i see more dead support,, only stupid frig die to bubble
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BANDID
Minmatar Quam Singulari M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:11:00 -
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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon So....
Everyone these days complains about speed tanked ships.... Cruisers that fly as fast, if not faster, than interceptors.
Why not create both static and deployable Webbing bubbles?
They work the same as Warp disruption bubbles, in that they can be anchored or deployed by dictors.
They would need to have a lower speed penalty than the standard webber (50% or something), and they would need to be mutually exclusive of the standard dictor bubbles.
So, if there is an active webber bubble, no warp disruption bubble can be anchored or deployed within the range of effect of the webber bubble, and vice versa.
Thoughts?
So because u got perhaps ganked by a nano gang, u want something to stop these really smart pilots ?
Enough with the speed nerf, Web bombs, web spheres, Lets keep eve playable, There is the uber webber Rapier and huggin. There is no need for the allready to big gate camp blobs which can be outrunned by a Ceptor, Dictor, maybe vagabond when they have really good nav skills and perhaps snakes, To make this big gate camping blobs stronger as they are allready. And tbh not everyone complains about speedy ships. The only prob was the nanophoon which prob is solved, The other ships around can only survive because of their speed. U should start thinking out the box and adapt instead of whining about defensless fast ships which once webbed die horrible.
so NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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Alexander Knott
Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:30:00 -
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So, on a dictor, you drop this thing and then just roll over and die because you can't get out of it? Or if you're in a frigate of any sort, you become completely useless because everyone and their mother's blind dog's artillery can track you?
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Nyxus
GALAXIAN RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:47:00 -
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30% web bomb that doesn't effect Stealth bombers? That sounds like fun.
Nyxus
The Gallente ideals of Freedom, Liberty and Equality will be met by the Amarr realities of Lasers, Armor and Battleships. |
Riddick Valer
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:49:00 -
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1st, make the effectiveness of the web bubble depend on a ships sig radius. Bigger sig= more slowdown. Smaller sig=less slowdown. This would prevent it from becoming an automatic I-Win button against small ships. Plus, people might actually have a use for afterburners.
2nd. Allow it in high-sec.
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Lisento Slaven
Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.09.05 18:58:00 -
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This idea was tossed around a LONG time ago.
The best suggestion was make it not work in conjunction with warp bubbles. That way you can't put do a web bubble + warp bubble.
Even then I don't support web bubbles. Would be a bit too useful. ---
Put in space whales!
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v1nk3r
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.09.05 19:10:00 -
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No thanks.
Warps need to go as it is :(
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