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mecubed
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Posted - 2012.01.19 20:35:00 -
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The Cerb was already bested by the drake, in terms of HACS, caldari ones are the worst.
As for HAms, in order to make them hit with authority, you need a scram and web, which hurts its tank by quite a bit.
With the speed,sig radius and extra utility slots, your just going to be an easier kill for a hurricane after the nerf.
Also with Hams come PG issues. |
mecubed
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Posted - 2012.01.20 22:02:00 -
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Smabs wrote:It really doesn't sound like that much of a nerf. More of a role change, really.
A velocity bonus drake would be doing about 550dps out to 105km. The 7.5km/s missiles would also have a much easier time landing hits on frigates. You'd also have HAMs hitting out past point range for ~650dps.
Essentially you'd have either a high dps ship with a good tank (it still would have 6 mids). Or an extremely solid 100km sniper with selectable damage types. The new drake would still be incredibly good in either of those roles.
Solid sniper at 100km with missiles....please save that for someone who will buy that ridiculous statement. The reason the cerb is one of the crappiest Hacs because that idea of sniping with missiles.
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mecubed
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Posted - 2012.01.20 22:08:00 -
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Duchess Starbuckington wrote:Quote:BEcause drake dont need RANGE buf ......... HMLs are 70km - ok , HAMs are 14kms , its OK because you still NEED scr+web... soo one bonus is waste = nerf.... You really have no idea what you're talking about, GTFO please. +Velocity helps at long range because the missiles then take less time to reach their target. Not all Drakes sit at 5km you know. As for HAMs, the ability to lob those at 30km or so is pretty sweet actually. Overall this is an awesome change and I can't wait to give it a try.
Ever fit T2 Hams on a drake? in order to get them on plus anything that you can call a tank, you need fitting mods or implants.
Hams are junk unless your target is webbed and scrammed.
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Posted - 2012.01.20 22:10:00 -
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Jerick Ludhowe wrote:Vokradacka wrote:
give drake another PG boost +150 PG...... and it ill be "ok"...
3/10
If you think that was a troll, then you need to go fit t2 hams on a drake....
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mecubed
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Posted - 2012.01.20 22:14:00 -
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Liang Nuren wrote:mecubed wrote:Smabs wrote:It really doesn't sound like that much of a nerf. More of a role change, really.
A velocity bonus drake would be doing about 550dps out to 105km. The 7.5km/s missiles would also have a much easier time landing hits on frigates. You'd also have HAMs hitting out past point range for ~650dps.
Essentially you'd have either a high dps ship with a good tank (it still would have 6 mids). Or an extremely solid 100km sniper with selectable damage types. The new drake would still be incredibly good in either of those roles. Solid sniper at 100km with missiles....please save that for someone who will buy that ridiculous statement. The reason the cerb is one of the crappiest Hacs because that idea of sniping with missiles. No, there are a plethora of other reasons that the Cerb is one of the crappiest HACs. Reasons that oddly enough don't affect the Drake. -Liang
Ther cerb is crap all the way around, but a sniping missile ship? That suggestion oozes stupidity..I know your a forum nut and pride yourself in having some sort of come back for any post, but seriously if you dont think the main draw back of the cerb is the idea of a missile snipe ship, then i have a white hug me jacket and a rubber room for you.
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Posted - 2012.01.24 15:08:00 -
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Scien Inkunen wrote:Lots of posters are experienced player - did you forget that you once been young (noob) player? Drake is rare ship that starting players can use to run lvl 3 missions without fear that will loose the ship and can make some descent money to buy equipment and others ship.
Many 3+ years players are roaming high sectors and still preaching about LS and Null ... How many of you are in low sectors - millions? Or low sector is little deserted than ...?
I understand that CCP is doing this - losing ships and equipment is more money for them, but other players ... If you dont fly Drakes or do not like them, why bothering about Drakes so much? And yes, there are others ships around to fly, but to collect and spare some ISK, the Drake is almost best to do that (for running missions - PVE).
And many are shouting about independence and such, but still want to be a CEO of 1000+ corp with noobs to collect easy ISK? Give others chance to make a descent star, to build up some SP and that you can start killing them or preaching for low and null epic battles.
Its usually Minnie pilots who complain because their Cane cant **** a drake as easily as every other BC. If you actually start seeing how many fly the drake here and compare to others who dont, which are the people who complain about it and scream nerf.. Then youll see.
Which is why minnie ships need a nerf bat, you see more of them on fleets than about everything and they are pretty much superior to everything else. Hence( Winmatar)
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