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Kithrus
Defensores Fidei
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Posted - 2012.02.02 21:15:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:God is benevolent towards his creation, and one of his greatest gifts to humanity is free will. And then his most loyal followers attempt to deny others such a beautiful gift, bit heretical that surely? I mean who are you to say you know better than God to decide who should be allowed to think and decide for themselves, and who should do as you tell them to?
That is what someone would call the paradox of free will. You are free to choose to do the wrong thing but you should not do that thing in question.
What makes free will a blessing is choosing to serve in God's light when the time comes to knowingly make that choice.
How or where is what you take issue with. |
Kithrus
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.02 23:56:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Kithrus wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Rodj Blake wrote:God is benevolent towards his creation, and one of his greatest gifts to humanity is free will. And then his most loyal followers attempt to deny others such a beautiful gift, bit heretical that surely? I mean who are you to say you know better than God to decide who should be allowed to think and decide for themselves, and who should do as you tell them to? That is what someone would call the paradox of free will. You are free to choose to do the wrong thing but you should not do that thing in question. What makes free will a blessing is choosing to serve in God's light when the time comes to knowingly make that choice. How or where is what you take issue with. So the only way to have free will is by not having free will at all? Sorry, I don't buy it.
But you use it every day. I'm not here to argue slavery its just your comments regarding free will caught my eye.
Its the same as any law. Lets use the example of do not steal. This is something every culture can agree on. every person has the choice to refrain from stealing regardless of temptation. Some people however choose to do it anyway and one could argue in a world where you can very easily be caught this will end badly for the thief.
So taking that mentality lets return to the question at hand. You have people who have their right to not serve God however assuming and I'm asking you to give me the benefit of the doubt HE exists its in your best interest to do so.
However no you don't have to but its better in the long run if you do.
Derailments aside you can see where I'm going. |
Kithrus
Defensores Fidei
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2012.02.03 03:49:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:
When you word it like that then yes I see your point. I can't agree with it due to a different opinion on faith, but there it's probably best to agree to disagree.
There's a difference between choosing faith and stealing though, choosing to not believe doesn't cause anyone else grief (unless they're incapable of not meddling in the affairs of others) stealing does.
That is fair but we have a better understanding of each others mindset which always helps. This is all I was going for.
If there were more exchanges like that we would/could have peace in the cluster. |
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