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AntiHero
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Posted - 2004.02.13 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: AntiHero on 13/02/2004 06:24:12
Zarthan:
Well, I did not consider my post a troller... I did not even argue any1's rankings. My post was rather well constructed.
Now, on the other hand... I'll get a little savage on ur a$$. If you wish to continue running your mouth about who is the best and who isn't, why not gauge us yourself? Bring your little Metallica tribute corp down here to CFS space and lets see where you rank.
It's just a game you know. :P
Anti
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Alynthir
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Posted - 2004.02.13 07:18:00 -
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The problem with lists like this is that they are very skewed towards 'Forum Warriors'. A few examples of people not in Venal or Fountain:
As Bob said earlier, Arcane Tech UK is an excellent, very organized PvP corp.
How about Black Omega Security? Shinra? EVE Marshals? Vengeance of the Fallen? MASS? These guys are no joke!
Hell, Tyrell is now primarily made up of a lot of former corps who fought against the CA inside Curse. Our PvP guys spent months, literally, fighting against some of those corps I named above and now have the backing of one of the largest industrial corps in EVE.
Since joining the Stain Alliance, I can tell you there are a couple corps in SA that are really nasty in PvP, but you'll never see them on these forums because they just don't care about this aspect of the game.
Another major point: there are a lot of corps out there that don't even use English as their primary language and have no use for these forums. The Collective is one example. The Jokers have an effect far out of proportion to their size on any area they go to, but Italian is their language in game.
But I'm not arguing to be on any list because I believe such things are inherently flawed. Why? Because there is no way possible to get an accurate assessment of another corps combat capabilities until you see them in action for at least a few weeks. I mean, I know **** all about RONA-KIA other than what little I've read about them on the forums and that snazzy video they made.
To be honest, the only corps on that list I can speak with any knowledge of are Omega, EV and Evol because they are the only ones I've seen in action since retail. Top Ten lists are pointless. There are probably a dozen more 'sleeping giants' that are just as happy they aren't on this list so they can't be made a target.
Zarthan, I appreciate the amount of work you put into this and the effort is commendable, but I have to ask what you are trying to accomplish? You'll never even get the corps on that list to agree to any particular ranking, and there are too many other corps out there you are leaving out of the running. Great effort, though. Was a good read.
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.02.13 07:42:00 -
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1. m0o (mean lean killing machine)
2. Evol (only from rep, aint been impressed with their performance in personal experience)
3. Omega Corp (again by rep only not had the pleasure of fighting with them)
4. Forsaken Empire (leet  )
5. Rona-KIA (gentlemen in war even though inkz is a homo)
6. COC (like jokers, small and elite)
7. Bladerunners (not a personal favourite corp of mine but they deserve some recognition)
8. Space Invaders (SPVD nuff said)
9. Celestial Apocalypse (ebil pirate (killers))
10. The Pain Syndicate (gureilla warfare at its best)
ahh and guess why he dont like us 
your so sweet little havy davy 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.13 07:54:00 -
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Tbh this guy proves he is a total noob, by ignoring corps like celestial apocalypse, more stain corps and some of the curse corps mentioned in this thread.
His analysis is clearly that of a noob and heavily flawed.
And just for the record Zarthan I never said size mattered/didn't matter in the way you suggest, I said we have less members than corps like EV or Evol and we will pvp more effectively. Learn to read K?
Stavehkins
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IcemansMiner
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Posted - 2004.02.13 08:08:00 -
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Interestingly all the corps mentioned in his list would think twice about going 5 V 5 with CUlt! And he didnt even mention them!
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Skul'Tal
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Posted - 2004.02.13 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Skul'Tal on 13/02/2004 08:22:15
Take Everlasting Vendetta off that list. They are pretty much dead in the water, all the players are jumping ship faster than rats it seems  They were never really known for PvP, more for being rich and mining a lot.
Im not sure why you havent included any Curse Corps, you know..the ones who have been PvP'ing non stop vs half of Eve for the last 5 months..
ATUK, Black Omega, Shinra and Rus deserve mentions.
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pat sharp
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Posted - 2004.02.13 08:36:00 -
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Celestial Apocalypse
The good- They have dealt some major losses to the Fe and their corporations. They have proven they have some decent tactics that helps them to succeed at what they do best, which is, hunt pirates.
The bad- They have likewise suffered some embarrassing defeats. They have at times struggled to try to repel FE forces and have at times gone into those no win situations and not come out with a win as predicted.
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You really dont know Celest that well mate
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:19:00 -
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Jericho wasn't mentioned though 
lol
Remember, Jericho dont PvP apparently, and according to most people, our members have never done it in previous corps either
Does getting podded alot count as PvP?
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:20:00 -
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evolution is better than m0o.
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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:24:00 -
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evolution is better than m0o.
in every aspect of the game.
My god you're right, you even beat them at the forum bragging part now. 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:28:00 -
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evolution is better than m0o.
in every aspect of the game.
wow, i never experienced getting sick over someone bragging before.. But man my stomache turned when i read that.
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:00:00 -
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Draximus Prime my friend, I just heard of you joining m0o, so that means we cant stay on frigate and cruiser inside Curse anymore 2gether
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MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:02:00 -
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TBH, in this guys sig, it states Kills: 14, so in teh end this guy is a pvp n00b, and should go fight more before he evern tries to make a list about pvp corps, and plz dont tell me im a pvp n00b i dont care, im out there fighting im out there learning, and soon ill be out there kicking all your asses.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:07:00 -
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actualy it shows 13 but whos counting :D
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 13/02/2004 10:14:45
Despite a couple of corps that should be there being completely missing, I honestly think he hasnt done a bad job. Some of his comments are inciteful.
The flaw in these types of posts, is simply that Eve is so big, no one can have first hand experience of all of these corps yet.
The best spokesman for any unit is an EX enemy. For once your conflict is over, PR and propaganda no longer have value, and thus normally an honest look at the campaign you just fought is possible.
EVO in the first TTI conflict, were unstoppable, now they seem a lot weaker, or more to the point, they are no longer so far ahead/if at all from the PAs main PVP Corps (KIA-R Blades Celeste Deathstar).
Moo, were great, and when we first entered this game, they absolutely owned. Up until recently, I heard far too many stories of idiocy, which leads me to believe they had watered their name down a little with too many loud mouthed teenagers. maybe thats changed now, don't really know.
Omega Corp - not a clue
Forsaken Empire - Have a mixture of very good and very very bad (Huff - Soz guys but tis true), overall a fair outfit
Everlasting Vendetta - Shouldnt be in this list
Space Invaders - Class Pirate Org, and can handle themselves nps in most combat situs
The list is desperately missing 2 corps though imho, Cult, whould should be in the top 3, although of course, they only have 5 members, so in a corp v corp battle, they would get creamed by most of the top 10, simply due to numbers, but in a 5v5, would make the top 3 no problems, maybe even top of the heap.
The Jokers - Anyone that has ever fought these guys in any way knows, they don't often, if at all, lose a fight. They wont fight if losing a ship is possible, and when the opportunity arises, they never miss a kill. Pure Predator.
Good "poll" though, very very interesting, it shows that perception is key in this game, and some have the ability to create a persona that isnt quite on the mark, both in the game, and on these forums.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
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MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:13:00 -
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Pffft, number there only numbers, and still small numbers at that 
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 13/02/2004 13:05:35
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The Jokers - Anyone that has ever fought these guys in any way knows, they don't often, if at all, lose a fight. They wont fight if losing a ship is possible, and when the opportunity arises, they never miss a kill. Pure Predator.
I think if u did a kill/per corp member analysis The Jokers would by far out kill any PVP corp. Check out their webby screenshot section http://pub188.ezboard.com/fjokersfrm10
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:06:00 -
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TBH you can't really analyse pvp corps like this because of different styles, different numbers and the way in which they operate.
Looking at it from a purely numerical point of view most corps fight as part of alliances and without the support of their alliances they wouldnt be anywhere near as powerful.
Someone should prolly lock this thread anyway, its just trollbait, I should know I smelled it a mile off and frst has turned up as well...
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Rave
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rave on 13/02/2004 13:12:04
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 13/02/2004 13:05:35
I think if u did a kill/per corp member analysis The Jokers would by far out kill any PVP corp. Check out their webby screenshot section http://pub188.ezboard.com/fjokersfrm10
Totally agree, Jokers are very hard to kill. They would win on kill to loss ratio's too.
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:10:00 -
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In before the lock.
btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:44:00 -
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Nice work Zart if nothing else but for giving us something to talk about. The Jokers should have been on that list though and SPVD should have been higher IMHO.
Also they haven't been really active for a while but back in the day Rus corp was pretty hardcore. So I thought I would give them a little love.
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:54:00 -
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i don't consider the forums to be part of the game. i think they are a different game all together.
i posted what i did to correct someone. im in the business of stating facts, however blunt and downgrading they may be to others.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:56:00 -
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In before the lock.
btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
You sir is a nasty little troll.
Please lock this thread as kids like this obviously get over exited and starts misbehaving.
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:59:00 -
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EVO in the first TTI conflict, were unstoppable
In the initial invasion, maybe. At that point, VA was a loose group of pirate corps plus TTi. There was no organization. Then, on the second invasion (the one that resulted in the formation of the NVA), VA had organized better. For the first 2 days of the war, Evolution was getting smacked around. Then activity started to wane on the VA side, and we started to take losses. The losses magnified the problem of the falling activity.
But VA on the first two days of the war was pretty friggin solid.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/02/2004 14:08:35
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In before the lock.
btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
You sir is a nasty little troll.
Please lock this thread as kids like this obviously get over exited and starts misbehaving.
Post with your main.
Edit: Removed unneccessary flaming.
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:02:00 -
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looks like me that the corps chosen is the most "popular" corps, but not always the best, im very sure that there is lots of good pvp corps that dont hang on the forums...
"We brake for nobody"
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Korath
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:11:00 -
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btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
Yeah I know you don't like us but thats a matter of opinion. We haven't survived and continued to kick ass because we suck. If we sucked you guy would have accomplished your goal of actually causing major damage to us but you didn't and turned your attention elsewhere toward more vulnerable targets.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:14:00 -
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lmao, m0o are without question the best combat corp in the game.
We smashed fountain whilst fighting hugely outnumbered, we crippled fountain and cfs well... err yeah GOOO cfs.. We have numerous vids of the stain fleets that were fielded against us, they blew up really nice.
From the get go in this game, m0o have set the bar by which other corporations attempt to aspire. We are always the ones bringing out new tactics, new setups and new styles of play, whatever people might say about them.
TBH the only corp that is equal to us in game is evol and tbh that would be a 90% numbers advantage.
Our size is what makes us the best pvp corp, the other corps u list are all much larger than m0o, we do what we do, only more effectively and with far less members.
No other corps come close to m0o or evolution, your list is a total joke and has no worth to anyone that knows wtf they are talking about.
We take fountains stations off them at will, infact the fountain military have standing orders not to engage us. And just out of interest how EXACTLY did fountain not send their full forces at us? Just what exactly have you been smoking?
In short pls do not attempt to analyse PVP as your lack of skill and thusly the fact that nobody worth anything in game would respect your opinion worth toffee.
Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
Jeez, just reading your heavily flawed analysis makes me want to hurl.
Pls refrain from posting inflamatory junk ever again.
Thankyou!
Stavros
WOW thats a big trumpet u got there
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:33:00 -
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Amazing how wound up people are getting over one persons opinion.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:41:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 12/02/2004 21:54:21
Edited by: Zarthan on 12/02/2004 21:53:17
1.Evolution
2.Omega corp.
3.m0o
4.Everlasting Vendetta
5.Rona-KIA
6.Fountain Alliance
7.Forsaken Empire
8.Bladerunners
9.Space Invaders
10.Celestial Apocalypse
10th, im trully hurt.
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