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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 21:49:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 14/02/2004 06:06:24
Just to many people taking this post way to seriously. Obviously there is no 100% way to for sure without a doubt make a perfect judge of how good or bad people stack up. However, I just decided to give my opinoin from what i've seen. Anyway that spiralled into flame land so I think it better just to kill the post . _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 21:51:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 14/02/2004 06:07:08 going going... _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 14/02/2004 06:07:18 GONE!!! _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.12 21:58:00 -
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Kaalakiota Corporation
The Good - counts among its membership the much vaunted pilot named Joshua Calvert.
The Bad - counts among its membership the much vaunted pilot named Joshua Calvert.

Don't agree with your list, by the way.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:06:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 12/02/2004 22:07:57
Quote: Kaalakiota Corporation
The Good - counts among its membership the much vaunted pilot named Joshua Calvert.
The Bad - counts among its membership the much vaunted pilot named Joshua Calvert.

Don't agree with your list, by the way.
hard to know everyone in eve 100% so i all can do is take my best stab chance are nobody will ever 100% agree . _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Draximus Prime
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:07:00 -
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m0o are not pirates.
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:08:00 -
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Quote: m0o are not pirates.
i had wrote "pirates" in word using the term loosely as they have been that at times. but word doesnt 100% transefer to eve forums. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Draximus Prime
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:11:00 -
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I prefer the term "psycho killers from outta space" over "pirates". 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 12/02/2004 22:14:26 You and redi soon dumped me, Drax 
Edit: your list isn't THAT wrong, I guess, Zarthan, but I'd definitely swap the last 6 around a little bit. SPVD would be much higher than where you've put them.
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Jarjar
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:16:00 -
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Draximus Prime Amarr m0o Corp
Joshua Calvert Caldari Kaalakiota Corporation
What's going on? 
Sorry for the OT.
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:21:00 -
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Thanks for the compliment on Evolution  I dont feel like discussing whether it is right or wrong, because I dont know all the corporation that well. But I'm sure its greatly appreciated among other Evols as well.
I'm more shocked by Draximus joining m0o. What happend?
This is not a hijack
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Kurenin
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:55:00 -
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Zarthan your list is flawed. ----- [22:02] <Kurenin> anyhow, on a more serious note, what did you think of those ideas? [22:02] <Hammerhead> we can't do anything that requires programming
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Soren
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Posted - 2004.02.12 22:58:00 -
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Quote: Draximus Prime Amarr m0o Corp
Joshua Calvert Caldari Kaalakiota Corporation
What's going on? 
Sorry for the OT.
was just wondering the same thing  _________________________________________________________
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st'z
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:11:00 -
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There is no way omega corp should be above moo in that or any listing, if i was in moo, i would find that highly insulting.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:18:00 -
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Thanks I guess.
I think we are certainly a force to be reckoned with, however, your analysis shows a lack of knowledge about many of the corps you have mentioned, ours included.
There are also corps better then some you listed.
It seems some of your listings are based on name recognition and forum reports as well, which are not really the most accurate source of information. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:20:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 12/02/2004 23:30:45 I like how we (and SI) get a lower rating in a PvP list because we don't mine. "m0o aint as good at PvP cause that's all they do." A little odd, guy
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Draximus Prime
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:29:00 -
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Quote: Thanks for the compliment on Evolution  I dont feel like discussing whether it is right or wrong, because I dont know all the corporation that well. But I'm sure its greatly appreciated among other Evols as well.
I'm more shocked by Draximus joining m0o. What happend?
Stavros kidnapped my hampster 
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:31:00 -
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Edited by: BobGhengisKhan on 13/02/2004 00:15:12 God damn, you put FA ahead of Arcane Tech UK?
And seriously, EV as an overall corp is nowhere near the top 10.
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Lentia
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:34:00 -
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Edited by: Lentia on 12/02/2004 23:38:27 Speaking as a FA part-time military reservist who has been around for 6 months of battles I can say this:
m0o are harder to fight despite their fewer numbers than the entire combined forces of FE including Space Invaders and all the rest.
Interesting to note also that PAK and SIM didnt even make your list, hehe.
Fountian suffered greatly with the loss of Evolution, but now we are becoming battle-hardened (largely due to the recent m0o offensive and FE invasion). We are working much better as a team and info flow is being streamlined. Fountain is now a force to be reckoned with.
Lets face it, mOo is in Delve now because FA is the only people who will stand up and fight them (or maybe they just like blowing up our endless supply of ships ). LONG LIVE THE FOUNTAIN ALLIANCE.
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.02.12 23:37:00 -
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There are obviously going to be inaccuracies but I find the perception of corps just as interesting as the facts :) ---
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.13 00:35:00 -
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lmao, m0o are without question the best combat corp in the game.
We smashed fountain whilst fighting hugely outnumbered, we crippled fountain and cfs well... err yeah GOOO cfs.. We have numerous vids of the stain fleets that were fielded against us, they blew up really nice.
From the get go in this game, m0o have set the bar by which other corporations attempt to aspire. We are always the ones bringing out new tactics, new setups and new styles of play, whatever people might say about them.
TBH the only corp that is equal to us in game is evol and tbh that would be a 90% numbers advantage.
Our size is what makes us the best pvp corp, the other corps u list are all much larger than m0o, we do what we do, only more effectively and with far less members.
No other corps come close to m0o or evolution, your list is a total joke and has no worth to anyone that knows wtf they are talking about.
We take fountains stations off them at will, infact the fountain military have standing orders not to engage us. And just out of interest how EXACTLY did fountain not send their full forces at us? Just what exactly have you been smoking?
In short pls do not attempt to analyse PVP as your lack of skill and thusly the fact that nobody worth anything in game would respect your opinion worth toffee.
Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
Jeez, just reading your heavily flawed analysis makes me want to hurl.
Pls refrain from posting inflamatory junk ever again.
Thankyou!
Stavros
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Tekla
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Posted - 2004.02.13 00:35:00 -
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Methinks this list is a little biased towards forum warriors 
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.02.13 01:07:00 -
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Quote: Methinks this list is a little biased towards forum warriors 
Jericho wasn't mentioned though 
This is not a hijack
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Jebidus Skari
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Posted - 2004.02.13 01:09:00 -
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Quote: Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
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Logan West
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Posted - 2004.02.13 04:34:00 -
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Stavros- I will believe and respect that Moo is good when you and your corps mates stop telling us, and someone else does instead...lol.
"I solemnly swear never to camp a spawn, to twink a mule, to farm a mob. I will not beg for nerfs, or macro for money. I am a gamer, and I swear to have fun."
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Havocide
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Posted - 2004.02.13 05:24:00 -
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1. m0o (mean lean killing machine) 2. Evol (only from rep, aint been impressed with their performance in personal experience) 3. Omega Corp (again by rep only not had the pleasure of fighting with them) 4. Forsaken Empire (leet ) 5. Rona-KIA (gentlemen in war even though inkz is a homo) 6. COC (like jokers, small and elite) 7. Bladerunners (not a personal favourite corp of mine but they deserve some recognition) 8. Space Invaders (SPVD nuff said) 9. Celestial Apocalypse (ebil pirate (killers)) 10. The Pain Syndicate (gureilla warfare at its best)
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AntiHero
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Posted - 2004.02.13 05:34:00 -
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Logan West:
Who are you? Why is it that ppl with absolutely zero pvp experience that love to flame m0o or the other acknowledged pvp corps? In response to your ridiculous comment (yes, it's your turn), I can only point back at Lentia's honest post. Plz look at what she said about m0o. By the way... she is FA and admitted to our superior skills. So, there you have it, an example of a post by some1 not m0o. tbh... i'm sick of hearing all this bs about 'm0o only posts about their own battle prowess.' yes, some of our members are proud and like to brag a bit... so the frag what? thats what some ppl do when they go out every friggin day/night and put a 75+ mil bs in harms way at every turn. what do you do? mine or do some agent missions? sure, and the only reason you are not posting about that is b/c you know that every1 would think it is lame. m0o and other pvp corps are good for the game. what in the world would eve be without corps like m0o? i'll tell you... lame plain and simple. Deep down every single one of you out there knows that Eve would not be the same without corps like m0o or Evol. So, plz, end this petty bickering and just accept that m0o will kill a lot of folks, just as Techell will manufacture a ton of ships, just as the mining corps will eat all the 'roids. Every1 has a role in this game, which brings me to my point... Know your role! Shut your hole!
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.13 06:02:00 -
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I would say
1. m0o 2. evol 3. SPVD or ATUK
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.13 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 13/02/2004 06:10:29 what I do find funny was I was telling one of my corp members the m0o guys would come troll the crud outta my post because I put them #3 : ).
Honestly thou guys you were gone soooo long and in the major scope of things have really only done 2 things. #1 u used the exploits to your advantage and the deal in mara went down. #2 you fought with FA long after much of FA's powerhouse corps in regards to PVP had left. Thou personally i'd put #3 and #2 probably interchangably but m0o by far is not #1 sorry kids. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.13 06:15:00 -
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Edited by: Zarthan on 13/02/2004 06:17:53 Edited by: Zarthan on 13/02/2004 06:17:09
Quote: lmao, m0o are without question the best combat corp in the game.
We smashed fountain whilst fighting hugely outnumbered, we crippled fountain and cfs well... err yeah GOOO cfs.. We have numerous vids of the stain fleets that were fielded against us, they blew up really nice.
From the get go in this game, m0o have set the bar by which other corporations attempt to aspire. We are always the ones bringing out new tactics, new setups and new styles of play, whatever people might say about them.
TBH the only corp that is equal to us in game is evol and tbh that would be a 90% numbers advantage.
Our size is what makes us the best pvp corp, the other corps u list are all much larger than m0o, we do what we do, only more effectively and with far less members.
No other corps come close to m0o or evolution, your list is a total joke and has no worth to anyone that knows wtf they are talking about.
We take fountains stations off them at will, infact the fountain military have standing orders not to engage us. And just out of interest how EXACTLY did fountain not send their full forces at us? Just what exactly have you been smoking?
In short pls do not attempt to analyse PVP as your lack of skill and thusly the fact that nobody worth anything in game would respect your opinion worth toffee.
Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
Jeez, just reading your heavily flawed analysis makes me want to hurl.
Pls refrain from posting inflamatory junk ever again.
Thankyou!
Stavros
Sounds like somone is all upset. Fact of the matter is skils DO matter wether you like it or not. Also size DOES matter wether you like it or not.
In regards to fountain those guys have tons of people in empire space who frankly probably make more money selling crap in stations then fighting with you guys in fountain. Also the rumor was you guys all logged off or ran to safe spot when largely outnumbered.
Sorry chap but your #3 or #2 but your simply not #1. I think you just can't admit your own flaws. Anyway it's just a game lol, so in the end what does it really matter what i think . I just had some fun thinking about it and making a post no need to get your panties in a twist. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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AntiHero
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Posted - 2004.02.13 06:22:00 -
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Edited by: AntiHero on 13/02/2004 06:24:12 Zarthan:
Well, I did not consider my post a troller... I did not even argue any1's rankings. My post was rather well constructed.
Now, on the other hand... I'll get a little savage on ur a$$. If you wish to continue running your mouth about who is the best and who isn't, why not gauge us yourself? Bring your little Metallica tribute corp down here to CFS space and lets see where you rank.
It's just a game you know. :P
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Alynthir
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Posted - 2004.02.13 07:18:00 -
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The problem with lists like this is that they are very skewed towards 'Forum Warriors'. A few examples of people not in Venal or Fountain:
As Bob said earlier, Arcane Tech UK is an excellent, very organized PvP corp.
How about Black Omega Security? Shinra? EVE Marshals? Vengeance of the Fallen? MASS? These guys are no joke!
Hell, Tyrell is now primarily made up of a lot of former corps who fought against the CA inside Curse. Our PvP guys spent months, literally, fighting against some of those corps I named above and now have the backing of one of the largest industrial corps in EVE.
Since joining the Stain Alliance, I can tell you there are a couple corps in SA that are really nasty in PvP, but you'll never see them on these forums because they just don't care about this aspect of the game.
Another major point: there are a lot of corps out there that don't even use English as their primary language and have no use for these forums. The Collective is one example. The Jokers have an effect far out of proportion to their size on any area they go to, but Italian is their language in game.
But I'm not arguing to be on any list because I believe such things are inherently flawed. Why? Because there is no way possible to get an accurate assessment of another corps combat capabilities until you see them in action for at least a few weeks. I mean, I know **** all about RONA-KIA other than what little I've read about them on the forums and that snazzy video they made.
To be honest, the only corps on that list I can speak with any knowledge of are Omega, EV and Evol because they are the only ones I've seen in action since retail. Top Ten lists are pointless. There are probably a dozen more 'sleeping giants' that are just as happy they aren't on this list so they can't be made a target.
Zarthan, I appreciate the amount of work you put into this and the effort is commendable, but I have to ask what you are trying to accomplish? You'll never even get the corps on that list to agree to any particular ranking, and there are too many other corps out there you are leaving out of the running. Great effort, though. Was a good read. _____ CLS Civil Affairs Bureau
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Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.02.13 07:42:00 -
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Quote: 1. m0o (mean lean killing machine) 2. Evol (only from rep, aint been impressed with their performance in personal experience) 3. Omega Corp (again by rep only not had the pleasure of fighting with them) 4. Forsaken Empire (leet ) 5. Rona-KIA (gentlemen in war even though inkz is a homo) 6. COC (like jokers, small and elite) 7. Bladerunners (not a personal favourite corp of mine but they deserve some recognition) 8. Space Invaders (SPVD nuff said) 9. Celestial Apocalypse (ebil pirate (killers)) 10. The Pain Syndicate (gureilla warfare at its best)
ahh and guess why he dont like us  your so sweet little havy davy 
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.13 07:54:00 -
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Tbh this guy proves he is a total noob, by ignoring corps like celestial apocalypse, more stain corps and some of the curse corps mentioned in this thread.
His analysis is clearly that of a noob and heavily flawed.
And just for the record Zarthan I never said size mattered/didn't matter in the way you suggest, I said we have less members than corps like EV or Evol and we will pvp more effectively. Learn to read K?
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IcemansMiner
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Posted - 2004.02.13 08:08:00 -
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Interestingly all the corps mentioned in his list would think twice about going 5 V 5 with CUlt! And he didnt even mention them!
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Skul'Tal
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Posted - 2004.02.13 08:18:00 -
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Edited by: Skul'Tal on 13/02/2004 08:22:15 Take Everlasting Vendetta off that list. They are pretty much dead in the water, all the players are jumping ship faster than rats it seems They were never really known for PvP, more for being rich and mining a lot.
Im not sure why you havent included any Curse Corps, you know..the ones who have been PvP'ing non stop vs half of Eve for the last 5 months..
ATUK, Black Omega, Shinra and Rus deserve mentions.
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pat sharp
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Posted - 2004.02.13 08:36:00 -
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------------------------------------------------ Celestial Apocalypse
The good- They have dealt some major losses to the Fe and their corporations. They have proven they have some decent tactics that helps them to succeed at what they do best, which is, hunt pirates.
The bad- They have likewise suffered some embarrassing defeats. They have at times struggled to try to repel FE forces and have at times gone into those no win situations and not come out with a win as predicted. ------------------------------------------------
You really dont know Celest that well mate
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:19:00 -
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Quote:
Jericho wasn't mentioned though 
lol
Remember, Jericho dont PvP apparently, and according to most people, our members have never done it in previous corps either 
Does getting podded alot count as PvP? -------------------------------------------- Dead
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:20:00 -
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evolution is better than m0o.
in every aspect of the game. |

John Zeppe
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:24:00 -
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Quote: evolution is better than m0o.
in every aspect of the game.
My god you're right, you even beat them at the forum bragging part now. 
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.13 09:28:00 -
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Quote: evolution is better than m0o.
in every aspect of the game.
wow, i never experienced getting sick over someone bragging before.. But man my stomache turned when i read that. __________________________
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RagnarH
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:00:00 -
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Draximus Prime my friend, I just heard of you joining m0o, so that means we cant stay on frigate and cruiser inside Curse anymore 2gether   This char is perm banned on forums :S |

MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:02:00 -
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TBH, in this guys sig, it states Kills: 14, so in teh end this guy is a pvp n00b, and should go fight more before he evern tries to make a list about pvp corps, and plz dont tell me im a pvp n00b i dont care, im out there fighting im out there learning, and soon ill be out there kicking all your asses.
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:07:00 -
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actualy it shows 13 but whos counting :D
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KIAEddZ
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:13:00 -
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Edited by: KIAEddZ on 13/02/2004 10:14:45 Despite a couple of corps that should be there being completely missing, I honestly think he hasnt done a bad job. Some of his comments are inciteful.
The flaw in these types of posts, is simply that Eve is so big, no one can have first hand experience of all of these corps yet.
The best spokesman for any unit is an EX enemy. For once your conflict is over, PR and propaganda no longer have value, and thus normally an honest look at the campaign you just fought is possible.
EVO in the first TTI conflict, were unstoppable, now they seem a lot weaker, or more to the point, they are no longer so far ahead/if at all from the PAs main PVP Corps (KIA-R Blades Celeste Deathstar).
Moo, were great, and when we first entered this game, they absolutely owned. Up until recently, I heard far too many stories of idiocy, which leads me to believe they had watered their name down a little with too many loud mouthed teenagers. maybe thats changed now, don't really know.
Omega Corp - not a clue
Forsaken Empire - Have a mixture of very good and very very bad (Huff - Soz guys but tis true), overall a fair outfit
Everlasting Vendetta - Shouldnt be in this list
Space Invaders - Class Pirate Org, and can handle themselves nps in most combat situs
The list is desperately missing 2 corps though imho, Cult, whould should be in the top 3, although of course, they only have 5 members, so in a corp v corp battle, they would get creamed by most of the top 10, simply due to numbers, but in a 5v5, would make the top 3 no problems, maybe even top of the heap.
The Jokers - Anyone that has ever fought these guys in any way knows, they don't often, if at all, lose a fight. They wont fight if losing a ship is possible, and when the opportunity arises, they never miss a kill. Pure Predator.
Good "poll" though, very very interesting, it shows that perception is key in this game, and some have the ability to create a persona that isnt quite on the mark, both in the game, and on these forums.
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=176347
www.kia-corp.co.uk/killboard
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MoLeH
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Posted - 2004.02.13 10:13:00 -
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Pffft, number there only numbers, and still small numbers at that 
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:04:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 13/02/2004 13:05:35
Quote:
The Jokers - Anyone that has ever fought these guys in any way knows, they don't often, if at all, lose a fight. They wont fight if losing a ship is possible, and when the opportunity arises, they never miss a kill. Pure Predator.
I think if u did a kill/per corp member analysis The Jokers would by far out kill any PVP corp. Check out their webby screenshot section http://pub188.ezboard.com/fjokersfrm10
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Stavros
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:06:00 -
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TBH you can't really analyse pvp corps like this because of different styles, different numbers and the way in which they operate.
Looking at it from a purely numerical point of view most corps fight as part of alliances and without the support of their alliances they wouldnt be anywhere near as powerful.
Someone should prolly lock this thread anyway, its just trollbait, I should know I smelled it a mile off and frst has turned up as well... --
"Keep On Flaming Lamers, Like Your Ships Did When We Ended You" |

Rave
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:08:00 -
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Edited by: Rave on 13/02/2004 13:12:04
Quote: Edited by: Shadowthrone on 13/02/2004 13:05:35 I think if u did a kill/per corp member analysis The Jokers would by far out kill any PVP corp. Check out their webby screenshot section http://pub188.ezboard.com/fjokersfrm10
Totally agree, Jokers are very hard to kill. They would win on kill to loss ratio's too.
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:10:00 -
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In before the lock.
btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:44:00 -
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Nice work Zart if nothing else but for giving us something to talk about. The Jokers should have been on that list though and SPVD should have been higher IMHO.
Also they haven't been really active for a while but back in the day Rus corp was pretty hardcore. So I thought I would give them a little love.
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:54:00 -
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i don't consider the forums to be part of the game. i think they are a different game all together.
i posted what i did to correct someone. im in the business of stating facts, however blunt and downgrading they may be to others.
dreamworks: i still have your double essay eve mails to me asking to join. |

Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:56:00 -
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Quote: In before the lock.
btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
You sir is a nasty little troll.
Please lock this thread as kids like this obviously get over exited and starts misbehaving.
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vf142rex
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Posted - 2004.02.13 13:59:00 -
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Quote: EVO in the first TTI conflict, were unstoppable
In the initial invasion, maybe. At that point, VA was a loose group of pirate corps plus TTi. There was no organization. Then, on the second invasion (the one that resulted in the formation of the NVA), VA had organized better. For the first 2 days of the war, Evolution was getting smacked around. Then activity started to wane on the VA side, and we started to take losses. The losses magnified the problem of the falling activity.
But VA on the first two days of the war was pretty friggin solid.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:00:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 13/02/2004 14:08:35
Quote:
Quote: In before the lock.
btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
You sir is a nasty little troll.
Please lock this thread as kids like this obviously get over exited and starts misbehaving.
Post with your main.
Edit: Removed unneccessary flaming.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:02:00 -
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looks like me that the corps chosen is the most "popular" corps, but not always the best, im very sure that there is lots of good pvp corps that dont hang on the forums...
"We brake for nobody"
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Korath
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:11:00 -
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Quote: btw, there are at least five corps we have fought against who are stronger than Omega Corporation. They arent even in the same ballpark, let alone ahead of m0o.
Yeah I know you don't like us but thats a matter of opinion. We haven't survived and continued to kick ass because we suck. If we sucked you guy would have accomplished your goal of actually causing major damage to us but you didn't and turned your attention elsewhere toward more vulnerable targets.
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Hanns
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:14:00 -
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Quote: lmao, m0o are without question the best combat corp in the game.
We smashed fountain whilst fighting hugely outnumbered, we crippled fountain and cfs well... err yeah GOOO cfs.. We have numerous vids of the stain fleets that were fielded against us, they blew up really nice.
From the get go in this game, m0o have set the bar by which other corporations attempt to aspire. We are always the ones bringing out new tactics, new setups and new styles of play, whatever people might say about them.
TBH the only corp that is equal to us in game is evol and tbh that would be a 90% numbers advantage.
Our size is what makes us the best pvp corp, the other corps u list are all much larger than m0o, we do what we do, only more effectively and with far less members.
No other corps come close to m0o or evolution, your list is a total joke and has no worth to anyone that knows wtf they are talking about.
We take fountains stations off them at will, infact the fountain military have standing orders not to engage us. And just out of interest how EXACTLY did fountain not send their full forces at us? Just what exactly have you been smoking?
In short pls do not attempt to analyse PVP as your lack of skill and thusly the fact that nobody worth anything in game would respect your opinion worth toffee.
Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
Jeez, just reading your heavily flawed analysis makes me want to hurl.
Pls refrain from posting inflamatory junk ever again.
Thankyou!
Stavros
WOW thats a big trumpet u got there
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:33:00 -
[59]
Amazing how wound up people are getting over one persons opinion.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.13 14:41:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: Zarthan on 12/02/2004 21:54:21 Edited by: Zarthan on 12/02/2004 21:53:17 1.Evolution 2.Omega corp. 3.m0o 4.Everlasting Vendetta 5.Rona-KIA 6.Fountain Alliance 7.Forsaken Empire 8.Bladerunners 9.Space Invaders 10.Celestial Apocalypse
10th , im trully hurt .
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.13 15:00:00 -
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Quote:
dreamworks: i still have your double essay eve mails to me asking to join.
We all do make mistakes, don't we . I mentioned on these boards before that this was probably the most stupid move i had made before.
I had a wrong vision of Evolution, you see. Stupid me, thinking that they would be fighters with honor, skills or pvp tactics. Seems that their only picking on weaker targets since the fountain departure, having to hand over their fountain offices, getting locked in a system, failing in aiding SA in their attack on curse, Picking on n00bs in Rancer and claiming solarsystems for a week.
Im glad you never responded though, so i guess i should be gratefull for that. THANKS!  __________________________
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Walking Contradiction
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Posted - 2004.02.13 15:22:00 -
[62]
Quote:
Quote:
dreamworks: i still have your double essay eve mails to me asking to join.
We all do make mistakes, don't we . I mentioned on these boards before that this was probably the most stupid move i had made before.
I had a wrong vision of Evolution, you see. Stupid me, thinking that they would be fighters with honor, skills or pvp tactics. Seems that their only picking on weaker targets since the fountain departure, having to hand over their fountain offices, getting locked in a system, failing in aiding SA in their attack on curse, Picking on n00bs in Rancer and claiming solarsystems for a week.
Im glad you never responded though, so i guess i should be gratefull for that. THANKS! 
Awwww....you sound bitter after they ignored you for being a dumb newbie. I Guess they were right.
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.02.13 15:25:00 -
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based purely on what i read... m0o are the cave troll evol the fellowship
--------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world. |

Tibor Ferenc
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Posted - 2004.02.13 15:35:00 -
[64]
yawn http://mmogcenter.com/tiborsig.jpg
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.02.13 15:36:00 -
[65]
Dreamworks, I like your cheerleading smiley  But I kinda disagree with nearly everything you say, your smiley makes up for it though.
This is not a hijack
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DeathBunny
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Posted - 2004.02.13 16:16:00 -
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Man what a crap list. Even when I was outta the loop for months I can count on certain groups to hold there title that they fought for.
m0o is deffinatly at the top, and if it isn't I personally think they should come visit you and your corp hehe. Fear The Bunny
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Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.02.13 16:46:00 -
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Scouting you are clearly an Evol alt, not sure your opinion really counts but surprise surprise you vote for Evol
Nubtastic Nubmen, to the Nubmobile
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.02.13 16:48:00 -
[68]
Good list Zarthan. I like the list and it doesnĶt really matter whether I agree with you or not it still a good read and at the very least shows some peoples view of other corps.
Of course there are gonna be some corps missing that doesnĶt have a good forum ***** among them but such is life. At the very least it was a list of some good pvp corps. __________ Capacitor research |

scouting
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Posted - 2004.02.13 17:15:00 -
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Quote: Scouting you are clearly an Evol alt
if i were an evol alt, my comment could be construed as fight talk...which is something i wouldnt want while engaged with the PA...would i 
and yes, my opinion doesnt count...its forum banter, lighten up 
--------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world. |

pooti
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Posted - 2004.02.13 18:00:00 -
[70]
atuk roolz
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Jhered Stern
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Posted - 2004.02.13 18:15:00 -
[71]
KIA Forsaken Empire - Have a mixture of very good and very very bad (Huff - Soz guys but tis true), overall a fair outfit
No offense taken. Huff has lacked the PvP experiance of most FE and NVA players. We have seen in the last few months that despite the fact we could field 30 to 40 battleships at anytime we lacked the skill to use them effectively. The last war with NVA proved that. In several engagements with former NVA players Huff was losing 2 or 3 to one. This began to change however and droped almost 1 to 1 before hostilities ceased. When we went down to FA we took several major loses at one point due to being dispered and unable to support each other against great odds. I do not recal any Huff battle ships killed in one to one battles with either NVA or FA, I may be wrong but they were never reported and we have replace all the ships we have lost in those wars. However, in FA several Huff members congealed into a cohiesive combat unit and delivered condsiderable dammage to FA forces. Also, there were several 1 on 1 battles involving FA, FA allied vs Huff ships that were won. I personally killed 12 ships in FA one on one and 3 of which were battleships. The point though is not what I can do now but how far Huff players have come since becoming members of FE. 5 months ago I knew nothing about PvP. I have been podded twice and bought close to being podded numerous times. Huff was intended to be an industrial corp. Of the 60+ members that were Huff about 12-13 could really fight, some more were on the way to becomming fighters and we have many that never want to fight.
I feel that the author of this post has made a good start with this list despite its inaccuracy. If he pays attention closely and keeps up on current events this might be a very interesting thread indeed.
Jhered Out!
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.13 18:18:00 -
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lol dreamworks. whatever helps you sleep @ night buddy. personally, i can't doze off very well after lying so blatantly ;[ |

DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.13 18:45:00 -
[73]
Quote: lol dreamworks. whatever helps you sleep @ night buddy. personally, i can't doze off very well after lying so blatantly ;[
I don't know how you play games, but i don't see any reason to lie in a game. What do i gain over it? __________________________
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Angelsfist
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Posted - 2004.02.13 19:20:00 -
[74]
Well from my recent experience, M0O= Tank CEO firing on me in Hagilur ( a.4 system ) 65k to 70km from the gate.
A pretty laughable attempt, but I guess it may be effective against frigates or low end cruisers 
I'm surprised M0O took him in.
The old M0O was FAR more intimidating.
Lord Zap still rocks though 
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Achec
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Posted - 2004.02.13 19:46:00 -
[75]
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
You just read that!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.13 19:59:00 -
[76]
I can't believe RUS aren't in that list, tbh.
When I was in EV, we always got really excited if we knew RUS were around 'cause it meant we'd get a fight.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.13 20:12:00 -
[77]
are you serious dreamworks? are you new to not only eve, but all life?
if you lie and downgrade your opponents, it makes you look bigger.
like, when you say we had to sell our offices in fountain? that's a lie. it makes us look bad. it's not true.
like, when you say we didn't fight Curse alongside Stain? that's a lie. it makes us look bad. it's not true.
like when you say 'picking on n00bs'? that's a lie. it makes us look bad. we justifyably shot people stealing our loot.
the only truth you uttered was when you said we pick on weaker targets since we left FA. that's true. we picked on Curse. you are weak.
so scape, not only are you a liar, but you are ignorant. you dissed on yourself in the midst of your poorly constructed lies directed at evol.
sometimes, i feel like people need to take a high school level debate class before being able to post on online forums. |

Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.13 23:28:00 -
[78]
Quote: TBH, in this guys sig, it states Kills: 14, so in teh end this guy is a pvp n00b, and should go fight more before he evern tries to make a list about pvp corps, and plz dont tell me im a pvp n00b i dont care, im out there fighting im out there learning, and soon ill be out there kicking all your asses.
That must be the funniest put down or insult i got for giving my opinion in this post. Keyword it was just my opinion I think a few of you are taking this way to seroiusly. Also for you info moleh it's just a sig lol, not like i'm gonna count up every kill i ever made and fill up a sig with dash lines cuz that'd look dumb, and messy.
Also to you m0o guys don't get me wrong none of you are probably bad fighters as far as i know. It was just my opinion you weren't #1. What kind of a corp would you be thou if you didnt feel like you were #1 and do whatever you can to prove it, so i completly respect the fact you feel like your number one, it's just no my opinion.
Anyway remeber it was just my opinion so try not to get to bent out of shape over it. I did it cuz for whateve reason it was fun to do, i do realize there is no truly accurate way to truly rank the corps unless ccp eventually adds in some sort of a system to rank corps, but even then it'll have it's flaws. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.13 23:31:00 -
[79]
Quote: Good list Zarthan. I like the list and it doesnĶt really matter whether I agree with you or not it still a good read and at the very least shows some peoples view of other corps.
Of course there are gonna be some corps missing that doesnĶt have a good forum ***** among them but such is life. At the very least it was a list of some good pvp corps.
That's what i was aiming at, I even said in the post I knew i'd miss some. Also being #10 to darth isn't nessarily a bd thing, most of if not all the corps on that list are good at there nitche or i wouldnt of put them on their. _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Cuisinart
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Posted - 2004.02.13 23:36:00 -
[80]
Heh, it's funny how often I agree with Stavros... 
Vision without action is a daydream
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.02.14 00:11:00 -
[81]
Quote: Edited by: Zarthan on 13/02/2004 06:17:53 Edited by: Zarthan on 13/02/2004 06:17:09
Quote: lmao, m0o are without question the best combat corp in the game.
We smashed fountain whilst fighting hugely outnumbered, we crippled fountain and cfs well... err yeah GOOO cfs.. We have numerous vids of the stain fleets that were fielded against us, they blew up really nice.
From the get go in this game, m0o have set the bar by which other corporations attempt to aspire. We are always the ones bringing out new tactics, new setups and new styles of play, whatever people might say about them.
TBH the only corp that is equal to us in game is evol and tbh that would be a 90% numbers advantage.
Our size is what makes us the best pvp corp, the other corps u list are all much larger than m0o, we do what we do, only more effectively and with far less members.
No other corps come close to m0o or evolution, your list is a total joke and has no worth to anyone that knows wtf they are talking about.
We take fountains stations off them at will, infact the fountain military have standing orders not to engage us. And just out of interest how EXACTLY did fountain not send their full forces at us? Just what exactly have you been smoking?
In short pls do not attempt to analyse PVP as your lack of skill and thusly the fact that nobody worth anything in game would respect your opinion worth toffee.
Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
Jeez, just reading your heavily flawed analysis makes me want to hurl.
Pls refrain from posting inflamatory junk ever again.
Thankyou!
Stavros
Sounds like somone is all upset. Fact of the matter is skils DO matter wether you like it or not. Also size DOES matter wether you like it or not.
In regards to fountain those guys have tons of people in empire space who frankly probably make more money selling crap in stations then fighting with you guys in fountain. Also the rumor was you guys all logged off or ran to safe spot when largely outnumbered.
Sorry chap but your #3 or #2 but your simply not #1. I think you just can't admit your own flaws. Anyway it's just a game lol, so in the end what does it really matter what i think . I just had some fun thinking about it and making a post no need to get your panties in a twist.
Lol! With Stavros its not the size of the "Battleship" that matters it how you break it off in the other guy! Lol!
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Lord Drax
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Posted - 2004.02.14 00:38:00 -
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The best i've fought alongside are Omega by a long way, the best i've fought against? well to be honest i never bother to look at who it is, i just try and shoot anyone not in CA 
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Falhofnir
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Posted - 2004.02.14 01:02:00 -
[83]
I wish people stopped to try to rank pvp corps, this is even more pointless than forum flaming. And even more so when they're clueless.
bibi
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Chasseur Aveugle
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Posted - 2004.02.14 01:19:00 -
[84]
Im from FA and from experience, m0o is hands down the best PvP corp in the game, FE, atleast the one si fought were nothing compared to m0o. I run off and log when I see m0o comming... unless we have like a 3 to 1 ship advantage. I respect m0o's power, but some of their tactics I hear are a lil cheap, like taking advantage of exploits(I only heard this never seen it, please dont flame me).
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:06:00 -
[85]
Quote: Stavros wrote: Tbh this guy proves he is a total noob, by ignoring corps like celestial apocalypse, more stain corps and some of the curse corps mentioned in this thread.
w00t! I thought all of us in stain were mining carebears 

As said, this thread is silly, as EVE is too big for people to know each corp from combat ingame. nuf said.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Woetra
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:37:00 -
[86]
The original poster started off well outlining what makes corps great PvP'ers... then degenerated his own list into who can replace their losses fastest. He seems to understand combat, but have no knowledge of the actual corps save for the forum troll education programme. He also fails to differentiate between a battle, and a gank.
EV have some quality individuals but they appeared to suffer from the need to outnumber, which counts against them skill wise.
EVOL rely heavily on having a lot of guns and staying mobile, but the thing they're good at is locating enemies at safespots, and ganking.
m0o and SPVD are highly adaptive, brilliantly organised, and deserve to be at the top.
OC make full use of all the ship classes, but tend to suffer heavy losses in a big fight. Their ability to take advantage of any situation puts them pretty high up the list.
VOTF and ATUK are good, but that's all I'm saying
RUS are scary coz they fight to the death. They've pulled off some crazy stuff and they plan ahead, taking full advantage of the terrain and tools at hand.
Can't really comment on other corps like RONA etc. because I've not fought with or against them since the SPC died. Same for cult and the anti rat corps
Sig Thief
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Slithereen
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:46:00 -
[87]
What about RUS?
Are they still in the game?
Maybe there should be an event like the Amarr championships to settle this. A tournament perhaps.
_______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.14 02:52:00 -
[88]
Quote:
What about RUS?
Are they still in the game?
Yup. Both Ronin and Leshiy died today (Megathron and Tempest). Lots of other RUS members seen today... Onego probably managed to dock his Raven with very heavy damage.
And yes, their top members are very good at combat.
Quote:
Maybe there should be an event like the Amarr championships to settle this. A tournament perhaps.
I thought MASS already won that tournament But really, there were only one available tactic to use in that tournament.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |

Indigo Seqi
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Posted - 2004.02.14 05:04:00 -
[89]
I see people are still not past the whole "not engaging superior numbers" thing. Try reading Sun Tzu girls.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.14 07:12:00 -
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The old RUS, b4 the bannings, was a very badazz group of players. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.14 08:03:00 -
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RUS was amazing in the old days, they would show up with like 20 armageddons/apocs (which was a lot back then) loaded with tachyons.
I miss the old RUS, dunno what they are up to nowadays. ------
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Zarthan
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Posted - 2004.02.14 09:08:00 -
[92]
Quote: RUS was amazing in the old days, they would show up with like 20 armageddons/apocs (which was a lot back then) loaded with tachyons.
I miss the old RUS, dunno what they are up to nowadays.
Very true they were truly a force to be reconed with back in the day. I thought most of them quit thou? _______________________________________________________ Get custom sigs and graphics done here Unforgivn Website
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Lao Tzu
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Posted - 2004.02.14 09:49:00 -
[93]
Edited by: Lao Tzu on 14/02/2004 09:50:33
Quote: I see people are still not past the whole "not engaging superior numbers" thing. Try reading Sun Tzu girls.
Or any other stratergist in the last 4000 years or so. I noticed Zarthan made no mention of stratergy at all, which is kind of important.
Start here
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.02.14 11:26:00 -
[94]
All I gotta say is there are some pvp corps who are just as good as m0o. Because they learned from them, and know their tactics. You probably haven't met them yet.
Just a little thought. Just not as historical as the m0o corp actually is. Which I respect in a way.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.02.14 12:18:00 -
[95]
Quote: I see people are still not past the whole "not engaging superior numbers" thing. Try reading Sun Tzu girls.
Sun Tzu was pragmatic, being stylish is so much more important 
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.02.14 13:32:00 -
[96]
Quote: I see people are still not past the whole "not engaging superior numbers" thing. Try reading Sun Tzu girls.
where in 'the art of war' does it say "when numbers are low, target every passing ship in noobie systems and hope that they engade you"
real classy 
--------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world. |

Meau
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Posted - 2004.02.14 13:55:00 -
[97]
Im not really up to date in this matters, but ive got one question :
What happened to "Call of Cthulhu" ?
Nobody mentioned Ķem, do they still exit?
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.14 14:58:00 -
[98]
its "Cult" and he didnt mention them because they are small. 
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Achec
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Posted - 2004.02.14 16:41:00 -
[99]
I think the best corps are the starting ones because everyone comes from those at the start 
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Soul Reaver
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Posted - 2004.02.16 10:50:00 -
[100]
Yes we still exist (thankfully) No we are not called Call but CUlt Yes we are teeny weeny itsy bitsy yellow polka dot!!! No I dont wear one whilst playing :) small with only 5 of us
Acuna Trayos Falhofnir Merdekka Raedean Io Me
We are fighting with PA at this time against Evol, but also doing our normal Anti Pirate hunting routine in Empire.
To the original poster. This topic is based mainly around ego to be honest :) We all like a bit of fame even if its only in a game :) However Unless you have a competition who can say who's better than someone else? Reputations are real but they are also very Subjective! A corp PvP event would be a worthy event for CCP to organize (not that they will mind) as we have always been the content providers huh! Still perhaps someone wants to start an In game PvP League? Yes that would sort the men from the boys. A fight to the death league. Record the matches in Fraps! Give us all something extra to do I guess. Or am I rambling again.
Be you a Pirate or a Simple Alt creeper! Sooner or later you'll dance with Soul Reaver and His Amazing Underpants
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Zelota
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:14:00 -
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I ar the best pvper
Lost 6 apocs 1 un insured  2 armageddons 1 un insured
and i replaced em all with in a week!!!
so i ar the best pvper caus i can pvp for ever and suply my self with stuff!! i rule you noobs just go die IN A ASTEROID belt !! Vid of the week |

Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:19:00 -
[102]
Quote:
Quote: Thanks for the compliment on Evolution  I dont feel like discussing whether it is right or wrong, because I dont know all the corporation that well. But I'm sure its greatly appreciated among other Evols as well.
I'm more shocked by Draximus joining m0o. What happend?
Stavros kidnapped my hampster 
, but hey if m0o didnt hate me so much even i woulda joined them... they're the bast pvp corp i know since they use any tactic needed to achieve there goal  --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!! |

Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:23:00 -
[103]
Quote: lmao, m0o are without question the best combat corp in the game.
We smashed fountain whilst fighting hugely outnumbered, we crippled fountain and cfs well... err yeah GOOO cfs.. We have numerous vids of the stain fleets that were fielded against us, they blew up really nice.
From the get go in this game, m0o have set the bar by which other corporations attempt to aspire. We are always the ones bringing out new tactics, new setups and new styles of play, whatever people might say about them.
TBH the only corp that is equal to us in game is evol and tbh that would be a 90% numbers advantage.
Our size is what makes us the best pvp corp, the other corps u list are all much larger than m0o, we do what we do, only more effectively and with far less members.
No other corps come close to m0o or evolution, your list is a total joke and has no worth to anyone that knows wtf they are talking about.
We take fountains stations off them at will, infact the fountain military have standing orders not to engage us. And just out of interest how EXACTLY did fountain not send their full forces at us? Just what exactly have you been smoking?
In short pls do not attempt to analyse PVP as your lack of skill and thusly the fact that nobody worth anything in game would respect your opinion worth toffee.
Whats this about skill training??? If you knew anything you would know that once you hit around 3 to 5 million skillpoints, they really make sod all difference from then on, its just broadening the ships u can fly and the weapons you can use.
Jeez, just reading your heavily flawed analysis makes me want to hurl.
Pls refrain from posting inflamatory junk ever again.
Thankyou!
Stavros
cant believe i have to 99% agree with the man that podded me in my noobship after other pirates blew my very first thorax   i was on local with an alt once watching CFS **** in there pants, really funny  --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!! |

Deadflip2
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:25:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: KIAEddZ on 13/02/2004 10:14:45 The flaw in these types of posts, is simply that Eve is so big, no one can have first hand experience of all of these corps yet.
my corp list is 2 and a half times the screen so i know...........   --- "this song reminds me of the girl i met on a schooltrip, she was really nice, and she really liked me. I forgot to ask her her phone number" - Nelix trist OMG im a pretzel!!! |

01100110011
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:55:00 -
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Arent you all Forgetting about the only real pirates and probably best organized pvp groups in the game beacouse of small size ? like SPVD and Zombie Dont make a list of Forum whiners and spammers that say they have won this and that ..
make a list of groups that have actually made real accomplishments ( bad typing ) i think Zombie is the most feared pirate group ingame now |

01100110011
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Posted - 2004.02.16 11:59:00 -
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Edited by: 01100110011 on 16/02/2004 12:00:28 and yes Evol , EVER , m0o , OC especially
all forum whiners and forum heroes
m0o = Good EVER = Outnumbers Evol = Good OC = Outnumbers Celec = Dont know Rona-Kia = donk know
all above = Forum Heroes
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.16 12:09:00 -
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Edited by: DREAMWORKS on 16/02/2004 12:10:31
Quote: are you serious dreamworks? are you new to not only eve, but all life?
if you lie and downgrade your opponents, it makes you look bigger.
like, when you say we had to sell our offices in fountain? that's a lie. it makes us look bad. it's not true.
like, when you say we didn't fight Curse alongside Stain? that's a lie. it makes us look bad. it's not true.
like when you say 'picking on n00bs'? that's a lie. it makes us look bad. we justifyably shot people stealing our loot.
the only truth you uttered was when you said we pick on weaker targets since we left FA. that's true. we picked on Curse. you are weak.
so scape, not only are you a liar, but you are ignorant. you dissed on yourself in the midst of your poorly constructed lies directed at evol.
sometimes, i feel like people need to take a high school level debate class before being able to post on online forums.
I haven't fought against you yet, and in fact i could care less about you or Evolution so i don't need to put anyone down. The fact is that Forsaken Empire and m0o reported pinning your corporation down in a system, with the demand that you gave one office. I haven't seen you claim you didn't. And thus my claim is correct till proven wrong and then you have my apologies.
I didn't said that you didn't fought allong the side of Stain, i said you FAILED aiding them(talk about getting a high school level) since Curse is still here and you failed to forfill many pvp'ers expectations in Curse. Your performance was rather WEAK.
There were enough n00bs in Rancer that didn't rushed for the cans, you even fired upon battleships and cruisers that were willing to help. You shut down systems and killed all that came in it, no mather how 'fresh' they were to the game. You placed yourself at the same level as many others you confict.
Atleast at High school debate they know how to use Capitols and interpuntion correctly, you fail in each and every single one of those. Not just some small mistakes, but almost every damn time. Thats almost as sad as your poor attempt to turn around the facts, so do me a favor... Leave this topic be, just as you run like a dog from Curse. __________________________
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.02.16 12:12:00 -
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hmm, the only m0o i recognise are zap ywev stavros j0rt reverend, these namers are what springs to mind as headliners and people in it from the start with the exeption of the corsiars that merged bob etc, Now wtf are the newbs of m0o who have been in carebear corps by there employment history now yapping like they brought m0o throughout the game lol, Yeah its tru m0o > Eve, But the heelyappers and the 28dayers should'nt rewally be bigging up there chests for bandwagon jumping. Maybe the should be quiet and let the names speak. "Teh lord of Nonni"
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Negotiator
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Posted - 2004.02.16 12:18:00 -
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who are you again? i agree tho, Stavros Zap j0rt and Rev are the backbone of m0o, and should be praised for creating such a great corp.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2004.02.16 12:23:00 -
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the who are u thing aint even funny "Teh lord of Nonni"
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Lianhaun
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Posted - 2004.02.16 12:46:00 -
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Quote: who are you again? i agree tho, Stavros Zap j0rt and Rev are the backbone of m0o, and should be praised for creating such a great corp.
Rev is usually left out, therefore I have a new mission in life..bear his lubchild  Just think of the future, a nice young lad brought up by m0o and Evol..I'm sure he/she will unite the entire universe..someway 
This is not a hijack
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Shaelin Corpius
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Posted - 2004.02.16 13:02:00 -
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Quote: I ar the best pvper
Lost 6 apocs 1 un insured  2 armageddons 1 un insured
and i replaced em all with in a week!!!
so i ar the best pvper caus i can pvp for ever and suply my self with stuff!! i rule you noobs just go die IN A ASTEROID belt !!
lol Tell me when you actually survive battle
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.16 13:24:00 -
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Edited by: IIIIIIIII on 16/02/2004 14:01:58
Quote: The fact is that Forsaken Empire and m0o reported pinning your corporation down in a system, with the demand that you gave one office. And thus my claim is correct till proven wrong and then you have my apologies.
No, this is quite incorrect. No m0o or FE reported this (if they did, they were not there), because it simply didnt happen. Let me enlighten you, to hopefully clear up the confusion for you once and for all:
We jumped into the system to retrieve our goods. Not trusting our motives, m0o/FE attacked us at the station while we were clearing it out. The game lagged out, so we all left the system - nobody tried to prevent us from doing this, and the gates were all clear. We were not "pinned down" at any stage. m0o/FE then messaged us, stating that they weren't interested in fighting if we were really only picking some stuff up. They then asked if they could buy an office from us for a sum of ISK, and also offered not to try and attack us again if we wished to retrieve our goods. As we had intended to do from the very beginning, we picked up our stuff successfully, and left. This is what happened, exactly. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but nobody was ever pinned down and no "demands" were ever made by anyone. I trust this sheds some light on an often misreported incident.
Apology accepted.
Quote: I didn't said that you didn't fought allong the side of Stain, i said you FAILED aiding them(talk about getting a high school level) since Curse is still here and you failed to forfill many pvp'ers expectations in Curse.
FA is still alive and kicking. Did m0o/FE fail as well? How exactly do you measure a successful campaign, DREAMWORKS? I consider an embarassing kill/death ratio for CA a pretty successful campaign. I consider the screenshot in my folder with a bunch of CA pilots lamenting about how badly they are getting their asses kicked a reasonably successful campaign.
Honestly, we didnt really expect them all to cancel their subscriptions and put their computers up for sale on eBay. Fighting alliances consisting of hundreds and hundreds of players is done for fun, really. Unless their collective ego implodes upon them and it causes them to completely fall apart (as with the VA), the Eve game mechanics kind of prevent you from doing anything more.
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.02.16 13:36:00 -
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Quote:
Yes we are teeny weeny itsy bitsy yellow polka dot!!!
LOL, when i worked as a DJ that was a song able to ruin even the best night at work =)
-- Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.02.16 13:40:00 -
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Quote: Edited by: IIIIIIIII on 16/02/2004 13:31:03
Quote: The fact is that Forsaken Empire and m0o reported pinning your corporation down in a system, with the demand that you gave one office. And thus my claim is correct till proven wrong and then you have my apologies.
No, this is quite incorrect. No m0o or FE reported this (if they did, they were not there), because it simply didnt happen. Let me enlighten you, to hopefully clear up the confusion for you once and for all:
We jumped into the system to retrieve our goods. Not trusting our motives, m0o/FE attacked us at the station while we were clearing it out. The game lagged out, so we all left the system - nobody tried to prevent us from doing this, and the gates were all clear. We were not "pinned down" at any stage. m0o/FE then messaged us, stating that they weren't interested in fighting if we were really only picking some stuff up. They then asked if they could buy an office from us for a sum of ISK, and also offered not to try and attack us again if we wished to retrieve our goods. This is what happened, exactly. I'm sorry to disappoint you, but nobody was ever pinned down and no "demands" were ever made by anyone. I trust this sheds some light on an often misreported incident.
Apology accepted.
Quote: I didn't said that you didn't fought allong the side of Stain, i said you FAILED aiding them(talk about getting a high school level) since Curse is still here and you failed to forfill many pvp'ers expectations in Curse.
FA is still alive and kicking. Did m0o/FE fail as well? How exactly do you measure a successful campaign, DREAMWORKS? I consider an embarassing kill/death ratio for CA a pretty successful campaign. I consider the screenshot in my folder with a bunch of CA pilots lamenting about how badly they are getting their asses kicked a reasonably successful campaign.
Honestly, we didnt really expect them all to cancel their subscriptions and put their computers up for sale on eBay. Fighting alliances consisting of hundreds and hundreds of players is done for fun, really. Unless their collective ego implodes upon them and it causes them to completely fall apart (as with the VA), the Eve game mechanics kind of prevent you from doing anything more.
NO senior m0o were involved in these discussions. If any m0o were in the discussions they shouldnt have been and certainly didnt have the authority. I found out about the whole getting an office for safe passage thing at work the following day when browsing the forums. This was a case of the FE making a completely retarded decision, and they did so on their own.
If you remember, we killed a few of your ships while the FE were logged off in the next system. Please don't group m0o and FE together we are completely separate entities.
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IIIIIIIII
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Posted - 2004.02.16 13:54:00 -
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To be honest, Zap, I don't even know who messaged us with this stuff. Im pretty sure they were talking to Homo, however, so perhaps he could clarify.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.16 14:14:00 -
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Please keep this discussion about EVE and not about other games.
Thank you
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.16 15:58:00 -
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Dreamworks, I'll ignore the vast number of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes you made as you told me to learn how to capitalize and punctuate, and I'll get to the point.
You're wrong.
I was contacted by FE ppl because they did not desire to fight us in Fountain. I told them there would be no sale of an office for safe passge because we don't need safe passage anywhere. We go where we please, when we please.
The sale of an office, if it even did occur, happened well after the 1 whole day we were there. It was done for isk only, probably because isk is the oil that grinds the machine in this world.
You can keep lying, or assuming, or listening to liars, but it still makes you the dolt.
Furthermore, you're the one spouting the bs, so it's your job to prove it.
So... prove it.
You don't go and accuse ppl of crap, then tell them to prove so-and-so didn't happen.
If you knew anything about debate, you would surely know this.
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Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.02.16 16:54:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Zap on 16/02/2004 17:00:15 Edited by: Lord Zap on 16/02/2004 16:59:01
Quote: Dreamworks, I'll ignore the vast number of grammatical errors and spelling mistakes you made as you told me to learn how to capitalize and punctuate, and I'll get to the point.
You're wrong.
I was contacted by FE ppl because they did not desire to fight us in Fountain. I told them there would be no sale of an office for safe passge because we don't need safe passage anywhere. We go where we please, when we please.
The sale of an office, if it even did occur, happened well after the 1 whole day we were there. It was done for isk only, probably because isk is the oil that grinds the machine in this world.
You can keep lying, or assuming, or listening to liars, but it still makes you the dolt.
Furthermore, you're the one spouting the bs, so it's your job to prove it.
So... prove it.
You don't go and accuse ppl of crap, then tell them to prove so-and-so didn't happen.
If you knew anything about debate, you would surely know this.
cute lil omega.
Well Homo, the agreement I was told about was that BOTH sides wanted to avoid combat, not just the FE. Further, I am reliably informed that HUFF were in receipt of the office before you left the system. Mighty brave of you to do the classic m0o speal of "We go where we please, when we please" though, if only it were true.
Sutty said a strange thing the other day. He told me Evolution "Play to win" and that m0o merely play to grief. Funny, I was sure that I posted a link to an article entitled "Playing to win" a while back, when I showed him the link he hadnt seen it before. The old adage bears some relevance here, imitation is the highest form of flattery. Admit it Homo you want to be just like me. Scrub 
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Homo Ergaster
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Posted - 2004.02.16 17:01:00 -
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Edited by: Homo Ergaster on 16/02/2004 17:04:35 you're misinformed. i told havocide there would be no trade of office for safe passage, because we didn't need safe passage, but perhaps a deal for isk for an office could be made on the side. we were contacted by FE, not the other way around. we do go where we please, and when we want, and we were doing this long before m0o was playing this game.
it's our speal, not yours.
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zap: stop editing your posts and stop listening to sutty and you will be taking 2 steps in the right direction ;d |

Ninja Panda
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Posted - 2004.02.17 13:48:00 -
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Clearly us 
We have teh best name teh sexeh uniforms
Also no turtles are ever harmed when we send for the pain
Nubtastic Nubmen, to the Nubmobile
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.19 21:27:00 -
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Please keep your replies contructive and on-topic. I'm locking this thread because it got bumped while the flow in the discussions has ended a few days ago.
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