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Thanos Draicon	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:51:00 - [1] The worst patch notes ever: -General fixes/changes -CONCORD no instantly destroy your ship in high-sec to reduce griefing -CONCORD ships now spawn at all gates in low-sec to encourage higher population of these areas and to reduce griefing -Special exploration belts will be added to popular high-security system (0.8 or greater) with Arkonor, Bistot, and Mercoxit to help more evenly distribute resources in the economy -Upon logging off, a player will instantly be removed from space regardless of location or aggression -The GM team has been restructured and will now be managed more closely by SOE. As such, petitions can no longer be escalated to Senior GMS -Each server node will have a maximum limit of 600 users. Additional players wishing to enter the controlled system(s) will not be allowed to jump. More hardware is being added to the server cluster to account for this -Only one hundred ships will be allowed on a single "grid" at once. Any ship trying to enter the grid once this limit has been reached will warp to an adjacent grid instead Ships/Modules -In addition to invention, new T2 blueprints will periodically be seeded on through the BPO lottery -The targeting range and scan resolution penalty for Warp Core Stabilizers has been removed -Platinum Insurance now replaces 135% of the cost of your ship in order to mediate losses from destroyed modules. Uninsured ships will be reimbured of 75% ship cost -Motherships and Titans may now dock at outposts in order to facilitate the purchase, sale, and trade of these items. They can only be docked after their hangars are emptied -Starbases -All starbase structures have had their cost and hitpoints reduced by 75% in order to reduce the time needed to remove an enemy POS -Outposts now require 50% of previous construction costs -Refine time on all refinery structures has been reduced by 75% Add your own "if SOE bought CCP" style patch notes, and pray this never actually happens...
Illyria Ambri RennTech	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:54:00 - [2] /me looks at thread title. Answer is "Everyone would quit" dosen't bother reading the post ------------ This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek Here come the Drums!! - The Master
lofty29 Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:54:00 - [3] Oh god please dont even mention it --- Project Mayhem 2
George Petsch Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:55:00 - [4] While I can't come up with a funny patch note, i have a "petsch" note right here: - Population Changes Petsch is gone ok, you know, maybe i got nothing :)
DOC PIC	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:55:00 - [5] ROFLLMAO I WAS GONNA FLAME YOU TO HADES AND BACK TILL I READ THE LAST LINE
Winterblink Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:55:00 - [6] Edited by: Winterblink on 13/09/2007 18:55:52 Originally by: Illyria Ambri /me looks at thread title. Answer is "Everyone would quit" dosen't bother reading the post Thread winner. Well, except for the last bit. :P warp drive active \| nature vraie
Surfin's PlunderBunny Minmatar Sicarri Covenant	Posted - 2007.09.13 18:59:00 - [7] -CONCORD no instantly destroy your ship in high-sec to reduce griefing - NO! -CONCORD ships now spawn at all gates in low-sec to encourage higher population of these areas and to reduce griefing - NO -Special exploration belts will be added to popular high-security system (0.8 or greater) with Arkonor, Bistot, and Mercoxit to help more evenly distribute resources in the economy - NO! -Upon logging off, a player will instantly be removed from space regardless of location or aggression - HELL NO! -The GM team has been restructured and will now be managed more closely by SOE. As such, petitions can no longer be escalated to Senior GMS - Meh -Each server node will have a maximum limit of 600 users. Additional players wishing to enter the controlled system(s) will not be allowed to jump. More hardware is being added to the server cluster to account for this -Take that, Jita? -Only one hundred ships will be allowed on a single "grid" at once. Any ship trying to enter the grid once this limit has been reached will warp to an adjacent grid instead - Ships/Modules -In addition to invention, new T2 blueprints will periodically be seeded on through the BPO lottery - Meh -The targeting range and scan resolution penalty for Warp Core Stabilizers has been removed -Noooooooooooooooooooo -Platinum Insurance now replaces 135% of the cost of your ship in order to mediate losses from destroyed modules. Uninsured ships will be reimbured of 75% ship cost -Might help some of us forgetful peeps out -Motherships and Titans may now dock at outposts in order to facilitate the purchase, sale, and trade of these items. They can only be docked after their hangars are emptied -Docking motherships... sweeeet -Starbases -All starbase structures have had their cost and hitpoints reduced by 75% in order to reduce the time needed to remove an enemy POS -Makes my job easier -Outposts now require 50% of previous construction costs -Makes my job harder again -Refine time on all refinery structures has been reduced by 75% - Don't know anything about that Originally by: Liz Kali Tic Toc Tic Toc , time is ticking Originally by: TheDagda click For the love of the jovians stops necroing
Occupational Haphazard	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:19:00 - [8] On the plus side however, atleast the GM's might play fair. I hate SOE with a passion, but in many regards ccp seem to be modelling themselves on them.
Shydran	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:22:00 - [9] General fixes/changes - New game combat mechanic! A brand new engine that will make every battle and epic one! Engage another ship like in every FPS you know and play! This will surely improve a lot your new game experience! Professions - New professions into the game! Try the new exciting Jedy (TM, not to confuse with the Star Wars Jedi), the ultimate BUG hunter (yes, new space BUGS added to the game!) - Profession already in game more simple! Now a month-old miner don't have to lose his time to have an excellent refinery efficiency, and also you don't have to use blueprints, but just our Construction Toolkit (buyable offline at SOE store) i can think at these atm
Akita T Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:27:00 - [10] SOE takeover patchnotes, part 2 To maximize revenue potential, combat "goldfarmers" and discourage character sales, you may now purchase ISK and skill levels via micropayments to SOE. Inactive accounts will have all characters deleted 3 months after last payment. Elite implants and elite learning skills added. To encourage active population growth, every activity you perform boosts SPs gain in all areas, but double in the relevant areas according to your current attributes, with a base value of ZERO if no actions are performed in the past 48h. To promote socializing, groups performing similar actions will see a further boost in SP gains. You can not engage in unconsensual PvP anywhere. A war declaration is always needed. You can now declare war on NPC corporations. Soveraignty restrictions lifted from structure anchoring. Standings requirements relaxed for structure anchoring. You can now construct outposts even in 1.0 systems if your corp has a 5.0 standing with the corresponding empire. Personal standings now decay over time. Corporation standings are now a function of recent corp member activity rather than member averages. You will now gain or lose derived standings based on alignments of NPC or player ships destroyed. Standings changes applied instantly rather than as an average over past 15 minutes. _ EVE GOLDEN RULES \| Char creation guide \| Stack-nerfing explained
Ampoliros Shadow Company FreeFall Securities	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:28:00 - [11] Weeping and gnashing of teeth, fireballs from the sky, Eris's hair would turn white, honor tanking would be standard tactics, scamming would be banned, t2 ships and modules for full insured values, and mean players would be forced to sit in time out until their parents could come pick them up. Oh, and there'd be elves. In short, everything good about EVE would die a slow, painful death under the ruthless oversight of SoE, until we were just EQ in Space. Dooooom. Dooom. ------------------------------------ My statements are not those of my corp or of my alliance, nor anyone else. [Insert witty comment here]
Tamayo Amarr The JORG Corporation FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:51:00 - [12] I would set fire to my computer, then throw the burning mass of plastic and metal out my apartment window. Turning it into a flaming-meteor raining down doom and despair upon the street below. Where passers-by and on-lookers who witnessed the flaming death-drop, would just shrug their shoulders and say "I guess SOE bought out CCP..."
Montague Zooma Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:56:00 - [13] I played Everquest for five years and have been playing Eve for a little over two years. Frankly, I don't see one as any better than the other. They just mess up their games in different ways.
Zephite Warrior Nation United SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.13 19:59:00 - [14] Don't you dare insult CCP in that way! They would never sell out to SOE, ever!
Lord MuffloN Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.13 20:00:00 - [15] I'd cancel my account instantly, I would never ever pay sony for anything except a playstation 3 now. Nothing else.
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2007.09.13 20:04:00 - [16] What would happen if SOE bought CCP: -SOE fires all of CCP's management, replacing them with corporate lackeys that dont know jack about the game or the community. -The developers who actually know what theyre doing get reassigned to the latest mickey mouse MMOG project. The guys left over are inexperienced, and have no real guidance due to lack of coherent management structure. -Oveur still gets to work on the project, but he has to moonlight in the tech support boiler room. -Kieron gets fired, then re-hired as a part-timer, then fired again, then re-hired, then... -New community manager hired who openly states that he hates Eve-online and its players, and randomly bans people for no reason at all. -50 new GMs hired based on who can suck up best to aforementioned new community manager. Next 2 years mark an age of wanton abuse that makes the t20 thing look like the epitome of good ethics. -No development/patches at all for 2 years. After all, this is a 'minor' game as it doesnt involve elves. When patches start up again, its completely random stuff with little bearing on what the game actually needs. -Citing the need to be family friendly, all but two of the top 25 forum posters get banned in the first month. -85% of the community eventually quits in disgust, many of them finding their way to a pirate server run by **ed-off former GMs. -In 2012, remaining developers are let go and Eve is maintained as a legacy game after a disaterous press conference in which Smedley was quoted as saying "what's an eve?". Double bonus points to anyone who can identify which actual SOE game takeover this is pulled from. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by:** Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
SoftRevolution	Posted - 2007.09.13 20:11:00 - [17] - New ship class Battle Ship Robotics
torswin	Posted - 2007.09.13 20:13:00 - [18] -Dev blog stating that they have no freaking idea how the code works. --- Signature radius: 150 mm Unless explicitly stated, this post does not represent my alliance, corporation, my own, or any other living organism's view.
Vodka Neat Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.13 20:55:00 - [19] Patch notes- Crash Bandicoot is now the end boss for all 10/10 plexes Why are you still reading? Its over. Continue to the next post.
Emsee Minmatar S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.09.13 20:57:00 - [20] Amarr would be renamed to Terran Republic.
franny Phoenix Knights Dark Nebula Galactic Empire	Posted - 2007.09.13 21:17:00 - [21] updates will now cost 15.99 for minor ones(who remembers Legacy of Ykesha(sp) in EQ1?) and full price for regular ones there will be a community rep for each race(class), we will completely ignore them and nerf one race of our choosing to make Amarr look like pvp and pve gods and disreguard all evidence pointing out our #s in the nerf are excessive(as was done with enchanters in eq1) nope, not bitter, made it to mid-upper 60s as a casual enchanter on a zek server and made it to the Dragons expansion before I walked away(I would have quit sooner but my then gf played a non nerfed class) PKKP recruitment
Khatred Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2007.09.13 21:33:00 - [22] I don't have any love for SoE after seeing several craptastic moves from them on several mmo's they run. I do however consider EQ2 a much better game than WoW and a decent game overall. The question is, what makes you think CCP is so much better than SoE?
Dr Saitek	Posted - 2007.09.13 22:14:00 - [23] Edited by: Dr Saitek on 13/09/2007 22:14:52 If SOE bought CCP... The first question I would ask... Who wants my stuff?!
Major Stallion Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.13 22:14:00 - [24] Originally by: torswin -Dev blog stating that they have no freaking idea how the code works. this differs from the current state of affairs in what way? ________________________________ High Sec PvP Originally by: "Wylker" CCP has finally mastered stupidity
Sydony Solaris	Posted - 2007.09.13 22:19:00 - [25] Originally by: Khatred The question is, what makes you think CCP is so much better than SoE? A nice objective measure would be to compare active subs to SWG (my last game) with EVE. The fact that a company with the resources of SOE and a Star Wars license can screw things up to the point where a little company like CCP has 3x the subs in EVE should tell you all you need to know. SOE is pretty lousy in an amazing amount of ways. :)
Tzt	Posted - 2007.09.13 22:25:00 - [26] *Caldari Achura now have slightly pointed ears.
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.13 22:29:00 - [27] Edited by: DubanFP on 13/09/2007 22:29:27 In 2 years they'll introduce a giant, uncalled for change without any warning that decimates the population and kills the game "Star Wars Galaxies/Planetside anyone? ___________ Desolacer> Who the heck gives YOU the right to ruin it for others buy blowing them up. Zaqar> CCP
Del Narveux Dukes of Hazard	Posted - 2007.09.13 22:31:00 - [28] Well I could make a rant that would make your eyes fall out and your brane asplode about why SOE sucks and CCP doesnt, but it basically boils down to this: Sony has some bright people but a lot of them dont really understand or appreciate whatever project theyre assigned to, and as best I can tell they have a sort of see-no-evil corporate culture where problems dont get taken care of until things are way out of hand. FWIW my bad experiences with them werent related to EQ or SWG (though SWG is the game the devs in my example got put on), though I got a sort of birds eye view of the implosion of both titles. Kind of sad really, since EQ was sort of the granddaddy of modern MMOGs. _________________ [SAK] Alumnus--And Proud Of It! -- aka Cpt Bogus Is that my torped sig cloaking your base? Originally by: Wrangler Well, at least we have forum PvP..
Khatred Fluffy Mungoose Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2007.09.14 01:40:00 - [29] Originally by: Sydony Solaris Originally by: Khatred The question is, what makes you think CCP is so much better than SoE? A nice objective measure would be to compare active subs to SWG (my last game) with EVE. The fact that a company with the resources of SOE and a Star Wars license can screw things up to the point where a little company like CCP has 3x the subs in EVE should tell you all you need to know. SOE is pretty lousy in an amazing amount of ways. :) So basicaly that means Blizzard are beyond godlike?
Sydony Solaris	Posted - 2007.09.14 01:53:00 - [30] Originally by: Khatred Originally by: Sydony Solaris Originally by: Khatred The question is, what makes you think CCP is so much better than SoE? A nice objective measure would be to compare active subs to SWG (my last game) with EVE. The fact that a company with the resources of SOE and a Star Wars license can screw things up to the point where a little company like CCP has 3x the subs in EVE should tell you all you need to know. SOE is pretty lousy in an amazing amount of ways. :) So basicaly that means Blizzard are beyond godlike? WoW wasn't my bag, but they do a good job with polish. I guess I'd agree that they are godlike in comparison to SOE, and I bet quite a few SOE employees would privately agree.
Andre Ricard Gallente Templars of Space	Posted - 2007.09.14 02:27:00 - [31] At least you can still Play SWG SOE > EA R.I.P EnB =( 1010011010
CHAOS100 Momentum. The Reckoning.	Posted - 2007.09.14 02:57:00 - [32] Everybody is incorrect, it would be more like this: Patch notes (Revelation NGE) - Due to the complexity and difficulty of managing and balancing 300 ships, we have decided to cut the ships down to 4 great new easy sizes! There will be a Frigate ship, a Cruiser ship, a Battleship, and a Capital ship. - All ships will be available for all new pilots, so everyone can experience the fun of battle and capital ships. - Due to constant whines about imbalances, we have decided remove all races except Caldari. - We have removed turrets all together as they are too complex, instead we have new Small, medium, large, and extra-large launchers! - Drones have also been removed as they have been far too buggy. - Ratting has been simplified, now there will simply be structures at belts which you may shoot to make isk. We hope everyone enjoys the new patch, specifically designed for fun for all! --------------
Giatshi	Posted - 2007.09.14 03:29:00 - [33] Wookies will now fly 10% slower when using caldari frigates. The "I win" button will now be replaced with an " iPwn u!" you button. Isk sellers will now be able to spam 50% faster on all channels. High Elves will be able to mine 50% faster when using ammarr battleships. Dancers will no longer be able to dance. Musicians will only be able to play music in deadspace while in a pod. Asteroid belts will no longer have asteroids to further help reduce lag. Planets will now have wood elves. GM's will now be refferred to as CCR's,(customer care representatives) in order to illustrate how much we dont care. Missions will now be soloable or groupable,but were not sure why.This will also be reversed in the next patch. Mission will be removed from the game.Instead there will now be epic mobs with broken loot tables that tend to cause crashes. The market is no longer stable,and your prices will change randomly to make it more interactive. New quests have been added: The never ending kill X_rat until we stay stop. THE NEVER-ENDING kill X-rat until we say stop. The find the rat and kill it un-endingly until we say stop. Find the rat,kill the rat,find another rat and kill it,and keep doing this util we say stop. Kill the rat,find the rat,kill the rat, then find another rat and kill it until say stop. Crafting. New items are available to craft. The "omfg what a piece of garbage" is now available from all npc vendors.Npc vendors have been added to the game in all stations.All stations have been removd from the game. Invention has been removed from the game,plz see above. UI-interface We are continuing to fine tune the UI-interface and will have one next patch. hmmm too much hate?
Drizit Amarr Lonely out here Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.14 03:31:00 - [34] Originally by: Akita T SOE takeover patchnotes, part 2 Standings requirements relaxed for structure anchoring. This wouldn't be a bad thing. Maybe then some corps can actually get a POS set up. This would prevent disbanding old corps, creating a new one, setting up a POS and getting old corp members to join new corp. My standing allows me to do it but with my corp members reducing it, we can't. This would allow corps like ours to move forward and reduce load on research slots in Empire. Quote: Personal standings now decay over time. I thought they already did. Quote: Standings changes applied instantly rather than as an average over past 15 minutes. Make that 15 days. It took me 2 months of mission grinding to get a +8 standing for a jump clone and a further two weeks for the corp average to creep up. Standings: Who said Eve is not a grind? --
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.14 03:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Drizit Originally by: Akita T SOE takeover patchnotes, part 2 Standings requirements relaxed for structure anchoring. This wouldn't be a bad thing. Maybe then some corps can actually get a POS set up. This would prevent disbanding old corps, creating a new one, setting up a POS and getting old corp members to join new corp. My standing allows me to do it but with my corp members reducing it, we can't. This would allow corps like ours to move forward and reduce load on research slots in Empire. Quote: Personal standings now decay over time. I thought they already did. Quote: Standings changes applied instantly rather than as an average over past 15 minutes. Make that 15 days. It took me 2 months of mission grinding to get a +8 standing for a jump clone and a further two weeks for the corp average to creep up. Standings: Who said Eve is not a grind? Standings: Because murdering/attacking "innocent" people in empire space is not something easily forgotten. --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Sweetpain	Posted - 2007.09.14 03:49:00 - [36] They would start the galactic racial war emediately and divide people in to 4 balanced sides at random for a better war game experience. And they will keep moving people around at random to keep the 4 ides 100% balanced at all times. yes i played SWG one time :)
Hugh Hefner Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.09.14 04:15:00 - [37] Im confused, how could Sisters of EvE buy EvE?!
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:10:00 - [38] We would all quit :) SOE has yet to take over a game that did not suffer a catastrophic loss of players within a short time of them taking over. No need to read the rest of the OP. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Mecinia Lua Galactic Express Frontier Trade League	Posted - 2007.09.14 07:16:00 - [39] Originally by: Hugh Hefner Im confused, how could Sisters of EvE buy EvE?! Hehe :) Yes in game SOE is Sister of Eve, outside EVE it stands for Sony Online Entertainment corp. Sony typically survives through the purchasing of other games and companies who have licenses with other IPs. They then just minimally support the product to hold onto the IPs. Why people keep selling stuff to them I don't know. I suspect greed gets in the way of a quality product. SOE waves a certain amount of dough in front of the person and they take it. Be nice to see one of them stand up to SOE and say No. Thoughts expressed are mine and mine alone. They do not necessarily reflect my alliances thoughts.
Lavinrac Krad Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.14 08:17:00 - [40] Originally by: Andre Ricard At least you can still Play SWG SOE > EA R.I.P EnB =( No, you can't play SWG either... well until the Australian Birds are done, but still it won't be the same most likely... SWG Died November 15, 2005. SOE and EA should merge, it would be such a great concentration of MMORPG Evil. -Sig Starts- Why donÆt you show us on the dolly where the bad miner touched you. -Thesas THE NERF BAT COMETH! REPENT SINNER! --If I were god, then I'd nerf mice and men, like in that sayin
Ponderous Thunderstroke Republic War Machine Industries	Posted - 2007.09.14 10:38:00 - [41] Christ no, I escaped SOE in January of this year after devoting 7 years to faries, elves, dragons, and horrible game imbalance. I am never going back.
Mostinius	Posted - 2007.09.14 10:48:00 - [42] Originally by: Mecinia Lua Why people keep selling stuff to them I don't know. I suspect greed gets in the way of a quality product. SOE waves a certain amount of dough in front of the person and they take it. Be nice to see one of them stand up to SOE and say No. Welcome to the wonderful world of... well, the world, really. Money Is Everything. Surely an EVE player should appreciate that?
Grawshellar	Posted - 2007.09.14 11:09:00 - [43] Originally by: Occupational Haphazard On the plus side however, atleast the GM's might play fair. I hate SOE with a passion, but in many regards ccp seem to be modelling themselves on them. Heh, I have a screenshot in my backups of a GM handing her playing character gear. I know it was her character, because both had exactly the same name. the playing character was a member of the topend guild on the server. I know there was gear being exchanged because an attempt to start a trade yielded "That player is busy"(ie already trading). I'll go through my backups later this week and if I can find it I'll post it for laughs. On the other hand, if I have trouble in game I always waited less then 2 hours for a petition, and there was a number to call for customer support, so eh.
Buxaroo Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.14 16:27:00 - [44] Originally by: Khatred Originally by: Sydony Solaris Originally by: Khatred The question is, what makes you think CCP is so much better than SoE? A nice objective measure would be to compare active subs to SWG (my last game) with EVE. The fact that a company with the resources of SOE and a Star Wars license can screw things up to the point where a little company like CCP has 3x the subs in EVE should tell you all you need to know. SOE is pretty lousy in an amazing amount of ways. :) So basicaly that means Blizzard are beyond godlike? No, he gave you one of a possible many examples of comparing CCP to SOE by. And subs of course are not the only way to measure a game. Lots of people listen to Britney Spears compared to Tool, but Tool will beat the **** out of Titney Spears any day of the week in musicianship and memorable music by far, but Titney will sell more albums because of the general lack of an IQ amongst tweens. EQ2 has a lot of polish and lots of stuff to do (I played it briefly because friends dragged me into it until I had to admit to myself that fantasy games are not my thing) but IMHO paled in comparison to early SWG where there were so many possibilities and options. WoW and EQ2 are too packaged for my tastes and too linear. Oh, OT: I would buy a one-way ticket to Iceland and bring my aluminum baseball bat with me SOE ARE EVIL INCARNATE! "No matter where you go, there you are" - B
Zirator Times of Ancar Pure.	Posted - 2007.09.14 16:35:00 - [45] If SOE would take over CCP I have three accounts to cancel :)

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