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General StarScream Cybertronic Decepticons	Posted - 2007.09.16 21:49:00 - [31] Yes thats the way it happend. but they did warp in a mothership on me. ;) [
Admiral Pelleon Caldari White Shadow Imperium Burning Horizons	Posted - 2007.09.16 22:22:00 - [32] Actually, he's blue to me so... Keep it up big man. ________ [-WSI-]
Kirsten Fud HUZZAH FEDERATION	Posted - 2007.09.17 07:35:00 - [33] Originally by: Elliott Manchild Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 15/09/2007 14:57:24 Originally by: The End Just bitter muppets whining until they get their own....then it's low-sec here we come, right? Almost everyone who owns a mom, at some point, has camped a low-sec gate and has taken some modest joy from killing a few unsuspecting shuttles and pods. C'mon, admit it! Yeah but then smartbombing shuttles after 10mins got boring. Instead of smartbombing everyones scouts why not actaully hide and get better kills instead of course you don't get hundreds of hundreds of kills but at least you get the good kills e.g frieghters etc http://storietime.com/gsy/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4862 Yeah, Shuttles Must be so boring, you've upgraded to noob ships.
zilllii	Posted - 2007.09.17 11:02:00 - [34] Originally by: Kirsten Fud Yeah, Shuttles Must be so boring, you've upgraded to noob ships. im quite sure that the navy raven kills and the dread kills are people who actually have the skills to fly ships bigger then n00b ships and shuttles. blame the ppl flying the shuttles and noobships instead for crying so hard about loosing the only ship they are capable of flying. i didnt see the dread pilot cry or the navy raven pilot.
Scrutt5 Snuff inc	Posted - 2007.09.17 11:30:00 - [35] Originally by: zilllii Originally by: Elliott Manchild Yeah but then smartbombing shuttles after 10mins got boring. Instead of smartbombing everyones scouts why not actaully hide and get better kills instead of course you don't get hundreds of hundreds of kills but at least you get the good kills e.g frieghters etc by looking at that killboard he apparently doesnt ignore dreads and kills those also so what was your gripe again? it is not his fault that you cant fly anything but shuttles. Good to see Zilli kissing arse again in a mom in empire thread.
Vito Parabellum Fivrelde Corp	Posted - 2007.09.17 12:02:00 - [36] MMmmMMMmhh... I see... a nerf upcoming. Not soon, the problem isn't big enough yet... and the response time is sluggish to say the least... but I see mothership prices plummet... lot's of people looking to get rid of their former solo pwn mobiles... So says the great Vito! Now give me monies for my divination. ------ When you say "no one's perfect", Chuck Norris takes this as a personal insult.
zilllii	Posted - 2007.09.17 12:26:00 - [37] Originally by: Scrutt5 Originally by: zilllii Originally by: Elliott Manchild Yeah but then smartbombing shuttles after 10mins got boring. Instead of smartbombing everyones scouts why not actaully hide and get better kills instead of course you don't get hundreds of hundreds of kills but at least you get the good kills e.g frieghters etc by looking at that killboard he apparently doesnt ignore dreads and kills those also so what was your gripe again? it is not his fault that you cant fly anything but shuttles. Good to see Zilli kissing arse again in a mom in empire thread. its the only character i can post with here :) my other one is out killing stuff alongside that mom. and its not arsekissing at all just facts. ppl who cant be arsed to do anything but whine because of being inept or just plain dumb those are the ones who keeps screaming nerf this and nerf that. try and use the tools given to you already ingame instead of being dumbasses and just scream nerf.
Elliott Manchild omen.	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:00:00 - [38] Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 17/09/2007 13:01:54 Originally by: Kirsten Fud Originally by: Elliott Manchild Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 15/09/2007 14:57:24 Originally by: The End Just bitter muppets whining until they get their own....then it's low-sec here we come, right? Almost everyone who owns a mom, at some point, has camped a low-sec gate and has taken some modest joy from killing a few unsuspecting shuttles and pods. C'mon, admit it! Yeah but then smartbombing shuttles after 10mins got boring. Instead of smartbombing everyones scouts why not actaully hide and get better kills instead of course you don't get hundreds of hundreds of kills but at least you get the good kills e.g frieghters etc http://storietime.com/gsy/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4862 Yeah, Shuttles Must be so boring, you've upgraded to noob ships. Maybe he shouldn't sit there shooting me? And I didn't smartbomb him. Acutally i think i smartbombed his pod when he loged with aggro and probed him.
Stylazz omen.	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:04:00 - [39] Originally by: Elliott Manchild Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 17/09/2007 13:01:54 Originally by: Kirsten Fud Originally by: Elliott Manchild Edited by: Elliott Manchild on 15/09/2007 14:57:24 Originally by: The End Just bitter muppets whining until they get their own....then it's low-sec here we come, right? Almost everyone who owns a mom, at some point, has camped a low-sec gate and has taken some modest joy from killing a few unsuspecting shuttles and pods. C'mon, admit it! Yeah but then smartbombing shuttles after 10mins got boring. Instead of smartbombing everyones scouts why not actaully hide and get better kills instead of course you don't get hundreds of hundreds of kills but at least you get the good kills e.g frieghters etc http://storietime.com/gsy/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=4862 Yeah, Shuttles Must be so boring, you've upgraded to noob ships. Maybe he shouldn't sit there shooting me? And I didn't smartbomb him. Acutally i think i smartbombed his pod when he loged with aggro and probed him. Yeh tell him to post the pod mail, I wasted 40 seconds of my life probing his pod
albert camus Corp 1 Allstars Insurgency	Posted - 2007.09.17 13:09:00 - [40] Make it so you can publicly lock onto cyno field the way it was suposted to be..... Then you just catch it and bump it after it has ported.
Iteken Hotori Minmatar Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.09.17 14:05:00 - [41] Edited by: Iteken Hotori on 17/09/2007 14:09:37 Originally by: zilllii its the only character i can post with here :) my other one is out killing stuff alongside that mom. and its not arsekissing at all just facts. ppl who cant be arsed to do anything but whine because of being inept or just plain dumb those are the ones who keeps screaming nerf this and nerf that. try and use the tools given to you already ingame instead of being dumbasses and just scream nerf. There are no tools to kill MotherShips in Low-sec. Maybe you could take the time to explain why low-sec MS shouldn't be nerfed? I'm sure you ahve a very well thought out and logical argument.
Jack Thurner M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.17 15:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Iteken Hotori There are no tools to kill MotherShips in Low-sec. Maybe you could take the time to explain why low-sec MS shouldn't be nerfed? I'm sure you ahve a very well thought out and logical argument. jump in 10 bs's with full racks of neutralizers and you'll see what happens to that momma.. ~575 cap neutralized * 8 slots * 10 ships = 46k cap removed with the first activation. However, if he stays there when that amount of ships jumps in, is another story ^^
Vito Parabellum Fivrelde Corp	Posted - 2007.09.17 15:50:00 - [43] Edited by: Vito Parabellum on 17/09/2007 15:50:46 If I were a self glorified gatecamper in a mothership in lowsec, I would have one nub alt on the other side of the gate and one alt with a cyno cloaked in a deep safe in a system nearby. I would jump when Local rises drastically. Local rises above a certain level. My scout spots a blob. My cap goes below 80% for whatever reason. I see a cyno. I see something I don't like on the scanner. The neighbors cat look at me funnily. When I reach my cyno alt, even if your group is so clever as to have people waiting there, I could safely log out as the pvp timer is reset to 1 minute when you switch systems. Thats a one-man invinci gatecamp. Lets say your 30 man group spent one hour setting up whatever trap you had devised for it to fail, thats 30 man hours I just lolled at with a few mouse clicks. So far there have not been any plausible way to kill off a mothership in lowsec, and that's because there isn't any. ------ When you say "no one's perfect", Chuck Norris takes this as a personal insult.
The End Amarr Union Of Xtreme Military M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.17 16:56:00 - [44] How many times have we all approached a gate camp in low sec (I mean a camp without a supercap) only to have the individuals see us coming and warp off to their pos or ss? Think about it? What is the purpose, then, of EVER forming up to attack ANYTHING in low sec? No matter what the ship type people can always warp away if they use scouts. It's as simple as that. However, you don't hear people whining about that because, generally, the movtive is ONLY to break-up the camp and not to kill everything at the camp! A large enough force can remove a supercap off any low-sec gate, which means you've just defeated the ship. You may not have killed it, buy by using the tools and mechanics of the game you have successfully "countered" the Mothership. Arguing that every ship must be killable is just stupid, because any ship in the game, if piloted by an experienced person, can/will always get away in low-sec if they so choose.
Vito Parabellum Fivrelde Corp	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:19:00 - [45] That type of argumentation is missing the point. First of all how many one-man gate camps dish out over 2000 dps and are immune to a 30 man trap fielding whatever shiptypes they chose? How many one-man gate camps can withstand and even destroy a smaller gang before they feel the need to break it up? And by countering a ship you have most certainly not defeated it. See the nano nerf, just because the nano ship failed to blow you up and warped away, doesn't mean everything is peachy in suburbia or that you defeated his ship. Because you didn't. And yes, I'm most certainly arguing that all ships should be killable. My suggestion would be to give it a warp core strength, something like 10. If you manage to keep 11 points on the mothership it can't jump out or warp out. They would still be nber, but gatecamping alone would come with certain risks. ------ When you say "no one's perfect", Chuck Norris takes this as a personal insult.
zilllii	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:45:00 - [46] just quit crying over your ibis will you pls.
Iteken Hotori Minmatar Maelstrom Crew	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:55:00 - [47] It's cool. Your Mom helped me get over it.
Kevin Mi7nick	Posted - 2007.09.18 06:57:00 - [48] Originally by: Jack Thurner Originally by: Iteken Hotori There are no tools to kill MotherShips in Low-sec. Maybe you could take the time to explain why low-sec MS shouldn't be nerfed? I'm sure you ahve a very well thought out and logical argument. jump in 10 bs's with full racks of neutralizers and you'll see what happens to that momma.. ~575 cap neutralized * 8 slots * 10 ships = 46k cap removed with the first activation. However, if he stays there when that amount of ships jumps in, is another story ^^ No offence intended, but when was the last time you had 10 bs with a full rack of neuts ready to go? Describing how to do something is one thing. Doing it is another...
Jack Thurner M. Corp M. PIRE	Posted - 2007.09.18 07:08:00 - [49] Originally by: Kevin Mi7nick No offence intended, but when was the last time you had 10 bs with a full rack of neuts ready to go? Describing how to do something is one thing. Doing it is another... Won't take me more than a few minutes to scramble such a gang, why? I can only describe the key to you. However, you must find the key and the door it goes to, yourself, in order to step over the doorstep Although, only a few (ok, quiet a bunch) knows that T H E K E Y always leads to success
Mikao	Posted - 2007.09.18 08:59:00 - [50] M.pire have never been good pvpers, not suprised this is all their mom pilots do. Wow guys, way to show your pvp skill!
Citizen X Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.18 10:24:00 - [51] Originally by: Mikao M.pire have never been good pvpers, not suprised this is all their mom pilots do. Wow guys, way to show your pvp skill! LOL I wouldn't call sitting on a gate with a MOM PvP...
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:46:00 - [52] Originally by: The End Arguing that every ship must be killable is just stupid, because any ship in the game, if piloted by an experienced person, can/will always get away in low-sec if they so choose. I take it you are not experienced at all then seeing as you just lost a mom in empire
fisty Toys R Us	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:46:00 - [53] Originally by: The End Arguing that every ship must be killable is just stupid, because any ship in the game, if piloted by an experienced person, can/will always get away in low-sec if they so choose. AHAHAHAHAA....sorry.. AHAHAHAHA
ArmyOfMe hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:59:00 - [54] Edited by: ArmyOfMe on 23/09/2007 19:59:20 Originally by: The End How many times have we all approached a gate camp in low sec (I mean a camp without a supercap) only to have the individuals see us coming and warp off to their pos or ss? Think about it? What is the purpose, then, of EVER forming up to attack ANYTHING in low sec? No matter what the ship type people can always warp away if they use scouts. It's as simple as that. However, you don't hear people whining about that because, generally, the movtive is ONLY to break-up the camp and not to kill everything at the camp! A large enough force can remove a supercap off any low-sec gate, which means you've just defeated the ship. You may not have killed it, buy by using the tools and mechanics of the game you have successfully "countered" the Mothership. Arguing that every ship must be killable is just stupid, because any ship in the game, if piloted by an experienced person, can/will always get away in low-sec if they so choose. quoted for
MaxSkywalker x13	Posted - 2007.09.23 20:25:00 - [55] Wish granted. Regards MaxSkywalker *x13*
Arngorf Minmatar x13	Posted - 2007.09.23 20:44:00 - [56] Edited by: Arngorf on 23/09/2007 20:44:20 http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=600993&page=4 ________________________________________________ Originally by: CCP Sharkbait i have untrashed this bug report and i will take care of it.
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.23 21:04:00 - [57] Originally by: The End How many times have we all approached a gate camp in low sec (I mean a camp without a supercap) only to have the individuals see us coming and warp off to their pos or ss? Think about it? What is the purpose, then, of EVER forming up to attack ANYTHING in low sec? No matter what the ship type people can always warp away if they use scouts. It's as simple as that. However, you don't hear people whining about that because, generally, the movtive is ONLY to break-up the camp and not to kill everything at the camp! A large enough force can remove a supercap off any low-sec gate, which means you've just defeated the ship. You may not have killed it, buy by using the tools and mechanics of the game you have successfully "countered" the Mothership. Arguing that every ship must be killable is just stupid, because any ship in the game, if piloted by an experienced person, can/will always get away in low-sec if they so choose. Quoting a post in a thread.
Kimiyo Ishikawa Smack Fleet Derek Knows Us	Posted - 2007.09.23 21:11:00 - [58] Originally by: The End How many times have we all approached a gate camp in low sec (I mean a camp without a supercap) only to have the individuals see us coming and warp off to their pos or ss? Think about it? What is the purpose, then, of EVER forming up to attack ANYTHING in low sec? No matter what the ship type people can always warp away if they use scouts. It's as simple as that. However, you don't hear people whining about that because, generally, the movtive is ONLY to break-up the camp and not to kill everything at the camp! A large enough force can remove a supercap off any low-sec gate, which means you've just defeated the ship. You may not have killed it, buy by using the tools and mechanics of the game you have successfully "countered" the Mothership. Arguing that every ship must be killable is just stupid, because any ship in the game, if piloted by an experienced person, can/will always get away in low-sec if they so choose. Winrar
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.23 22:00:00 - [59] Damn, I SO wanted to post "In before MS owner tries to defend his honor" but I thought "He cannot really be that dumb, can he?". Oh well, I guess I forgot he lost a MS in low sec
Skelator Stronghold corp Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 22:58:00 - [60] Velios would NEVER condone Pirating in lowsec!!! Umm Right Velios Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts. Phasmatis Velox Equitatus

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