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Cloora APEX Unlimited APEX Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.14 21:11:00 - [1] This has bothered me for quite some time. With guns you see them visible on the ship. You see them rotate and track and you see the beams (or whatever) eminate from them when they fire. It is visially appealing and makes for better screenshots and just looks cool. WTH is with missiles? I fire all 8 Turrets out of a Rokh and BOOM! all 8 go off and you see 8 rails a spewing antimatter in awesome fashion. I fire 6 Wrath cruise missiles from my Raven and I see a GLOB of all my missiles fire form the center of my ship. A Drake has all those nice missile looking bay on it. Non functional. They dont do anything. With the Graphics update it would be nice to see missile bays rotate and pivot and if my drake fires 7 heavies at once to see seperate tails going off to my target. Anyone else think so? Right now missiles look like they are stuck in beta. Not finished and unpolished.
Born Slippy	Posted - 2007.09.14 21:14:00 - [2] I agree, had the same thought's since day 1. Im not sure but i think it's a safe bet that in rev3 missile bay's will be visible with animations and all that good stuff \o/. /me dreams on
Gus Morgan Genos Occidere	Posted - 2007.09.14 21:32:00 - [3] Yes, I totally agree. It's really not a big issue to fix either. you just have to move the coordinates for the missile launching (so instead of it beeing in the middle of the ship it will actually be where the launchers are) and model and animate some launchers.
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.14 21:34:00 - [4] It would be really cool if missiles had a similar engine trail like ships.
Azrael Maxim Flexible Demeanour	Posted - 2007.09.14 21:40:00 - [5] I have not heard a word from ccp anywhere if they will update turret graphics and if they will add actual missile launchers, so I fear the worst. Also not a word on larger and enhanced planet graphics en more realistic space views. It would be most excellent if they would give all of the above a graphical boost as well as ship and station models.
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Cloora I fire all 8 Turrets out of a Rokh and BOOM! all 8 go off and you see 8 rails a spewing antimatter in awesome fashion. Actually, I have a feeling you don't. Certainly last time I checked, only 6 of the Rokhs turrets 'actually' fired. They all track, but no 'zap'. This may have changed - I haven't flown one in a couple of patches. BUt yes. I agree. Missiles just aren't satisfying enough to fire. Torps just about manage it, with their 'omg that's going to hurt' explosions, and their 'woosh' when you launch them, but ... Well, at the very least missiles need to scatter a bit when firing, so they're not just a blob. And ideally all come out separate launchers, too. And even better if the launchers had colours, so you could see what kind, and how many torpedos were loaded. That would rock. (I mean, you can tell what kind of turret, and whether it's T2 just by eyeballing a gunship, so you should be able to on a missile boat) Crane needs more grid
Tauscha Vald'or	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:14:00 - [7] <mock> Why add silly turret effects when there are bugs to be fixed!!! </mock>
Bigeasy Caldari Shadow Of The Light R i s e	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:17:00 - [8] I know that EM missiles glow blue when you fire them, always thought that was cool. As a drake pilot i always hoped those launchers on the side had some functionality, but alas. Also anyone notice how the drake has 8 launchers ports, but only 7 launcher hardpoints? Let them hate, so long as they fear-Caligula
Nismaan	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:29:00 - [9] Edited by: Nismaan on 14/09/2007 22:31:15 It was mentioned in one of the interviews, not sure which though. Something along the lines of "we're hoping to look at turrets after the models/textures and engine are done". Supposedly they don't want it to be 'one size fits all' as it is now. I would assume that missile bays would be done at the same time. Personally, I think that the turrets, missile bays and weapons effects are in need of an update more than the textures and models.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:35:00 - [10] I'd like to see a shield effect on ships as well. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Bigeasy I know that EM missiles glow blue when you fire them, always thought that was cool. As a drake pilot i always hoped those launchers on the side had some functionality, but alas. Also anyone notice how the drake has 8 launchers ports, but only 7 launcher hardpoints? All the missiles are subtley different colours when in flight. But ... well it's most obvious with the EM ones, as the others are varying degrees of 'reddish white' I think the Drake _might_ have ended up with 8 launchers, before they realised that that would be sick and wrong - it's far easier to 'not fill' a hardpoint, than it is to add one into the model later. (Which is one of the reasons the extra turret on the Ferox is a slow process) Crane needs more grid
Beowulf Scheafer Gallente M34t p0p s1ckle Manufacturing	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:38:00 - [12] its not only an issue of a better looking ship, but rather a tactical disadvantage to not be able to tell what weaponlayout for example a raven you wanna engage has. i seriously hope they gonna fix it in revIII
StuckAtTheLock	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:39:00 - [13] Edited by: StuckAtTheLock on 14/09/2007 22:40:08 The homeworld series does an awesome job with all it's effects. The missile launchers in hw2 were a huge step up over any other space game I've ever played and I think eve would do well to incorperate realistic launch sequences as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehqzRoRMuc You can skip all the bs at the beginning right to 1:30 (you can skip to 1:30 even if it hasn't downloaded that far) where you can see a missile impact a destroyer as it launches a volly out. the missiles launch verticle, then correct themselves once clear of the ship. Awesome effect.
Maridius Secundus Caldari	Posted - 2007.09.14 22:58:00 - [14] I compleatly agree, thats one of the biggest proublems i see in eve. And why dont the shields flicker when they get hit? That would improve the game so much, not sure what it would do to the lag though....
Cpt Branko The Bloody Red	Posted - 2007.09.14 23:00:00 - [15] Edited by: Cpt Branko on 14/09/2007 23:00:49 Funny, Minmatar AFs look like they DO have missiles in-built to the ship. Look at the Wolf, and tell me the things above the engines don't look like missile launchers ;P At any rate, I'd love it if they just didn't go from the center of the ship - although having missile bays rotate & everything I wouldn't really like. Messes up the preety looks of my ships ;P Originally by: Maridius Secundus I compleatly agree, thats one of the biggest proublems i see in eve. And why dont the shields flicker when they get hit? That would improve the game so much, not sure what it would do to the lag though.... Wouldn't add any server-side lag, so it's fine.
Daelorn State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.15 00:05:00 - [16] Originally by: Gus Morgan Yes, I totally agree. It's really not a big issue to fix either. you just have to move the coordinates for the missile launching (so instead of it beeing in the middle of the ship it will actually be where the launchers are) and model and animate some launchers. Ok. You fix it then »»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»»
Some Caldari Caldari Shadow Warrioz	Posted - 2007.09.15 00:14:00 - [17] It would be very nice to get launcher effects on the ships. As it stands they do look a little unfinished. ------------ Originally by: Banana Torres Gurls are overrated, they nick your money and hurt your ears. Just so you can have limited access to their soft and squishy bits.
Frug Zenithal Harvest 101010 Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.15 00:15:00 - [18] Originally by: Gus Morgan Yes, I totally agree. It's really not a big issue to fix either. you just have to move the coordinates for the missile launching (so instead of it beeing in the middle of the ship it will actually be where the launchers are) and model and animate some launchers. It is not that simple. The missiles follow a path to intercept the target. Even if you just moved the launch point to wherever you want it to be, the missiles would all immediately move into the same path and it would look exactly the same as it does now, with a small blip from the launch point to the path. That is not worth the effort of making a bunch of new points for missile launches on all the ships. - - - - - - - - - Do not use dotted lines - - - - - - - If you think I'm awesome, say BOOO BOOO!! - Ductoris Neat look what I found - Kreul Hey, my marbles
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.15 00:39:00 - [19] Edited by: Yao Shiu on 15/09/2007 00:39:14 yes please I'd also like all the turrets on my harbinger to actually graphically fire when I'm facing the enemy... I have to bank and... FIRE PORT SIDE CANNONS! pew pew ASPLODE in order for them to do anything otherwise just the one on the top fires. bit of an anticlimax after pushing all those keys.
Arana Tellen Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.09.15 00:54:00 - [20] The graphic for capital launchers look like turrets but sam-site ish. They are supposed to be the size of frigates --------------------------------- Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8ghz @ 3ghz, 2GB Gskill DDR2 5400 @ 800mhh 4-4-4-12, Abit fatality mATX F-I90HD @ 334mhz, 8800GTS 320mb 2x250GB 7200.10s Raid 0, Vista 64 Home.
Kon sama	Posted - 2007.09.15 04:19:00 - [21] would be cool to see missiles get launched from both sides of a ship, and maybe the back and front as well. The crow has launchers on its back i think. Too bad the missiles dont come out of it.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.09.15 04:23:00 - [22] Better missile graphics would indeed make the game prettier. As would slightly more differentiable missile graphics. . . Havoc looks like Scourge looks like Widowmakers, until they hit. -------------------------------------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
Paulo Damarr	Posted - 2007.09.15 04:33:00 - [23] I personally like the Medium/Large rail-gun sound, through headphones and a X-Fi Sound blaster with 3D and Reverb effects they are pretty powerful sounding "Phooom!! Clank"
Viktor Fyretracker Caldari Worms Corp	Posted - 2007.09.15 04:57:00 - [24] the Raven does have visible Tubes if you zoom in on it. though it doesnt have enough tubes to match launcher hardpoints. but it would be cool to see a Launcher box pop out and track a target like the ones on RL navy ships do when locking onto an enemy aircraft.
Arctur Gestator Amarr Imperial Academy	Posted - 2007.09.15 05:09:00 - [25] I don't using rockets but i like the idea of visible launchers. _________________________ Seize him, bind up him, and toss him to the ant-hill. I can do this all the day :-P
Sirial Soulfly	Posted - 2007.09.15 10:43:00 - [26] Edited by: Sirial Soulfly on 15/09/2007 10:43:02 Originally by: StuckAtTheLock Edited by: StuckAtTheLock on 14/09/2007 22:40:08 The homeworld series does an awesome job with all it's effects. The missile launchers in hw2 were a huge step up over any other space game I've ever played and I think eve would do well to incorperate realistic launch sequences as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehqzRoRMuc You can skip all the bs at the beginning right to 1:30 (you can skip to 1:30 even if it hasn't downloaded that far) where you can see a missile impact a destroyer as it launches a volly out. the missiles launch verticle, then correct themselves once clear of the ship. Awesome effect. Homeworld 2 is just insane (compared to eve) it will be very hard to top those graphics and weapon effects and sound effects even.
Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.15 10:47:00 - [27] Originally by: Sirial Soulfly Edited by: Sirial Soulfly on 15/09/2007 10:43:02 Originally by: StuckAtTheLock Edited by: StuckAtTheLock on 14/09/2007 22:40:08 The homeworld series does an awesome job with all it's effects. The missile launchers in hw2 were a huge step up over any other space game I've ever played and I think eve would do well to incorperate realistic launch sequences as well. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OehqzRoRMuc You can skip all the bs at the beginning right to 1:30 (you can skip to 1:30 even if it hasn't downloaded that far) where you can see a missile impact a destroyer as it launches a volly out. the missiles launch verticle, then correct themselves once clear of the ship. Awesome effect. Homeworld 2 is just insane (compared to eve) it will be very hard to top those graphics and weapon effects and sound effects even. I want a friggin' HW2 battleship in EVE. 2 dual ion cannons, **loads of pulsar turrets and some balistic turrets aswell. let's not forget the docking bay too, and the ability of having 2 support modules in it. ...now that I think of it, I thin that a hyperion would pretty much bbq a HW2 battleship --- truth about EVE: Quote: "Guns are fine, boost players" Quote:** "Players are fine, boost guns"
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:17:00 - [28] Great, now you have done it. Reinstalling HW2 right now.
Lord Zoran Caldari House of Tempers	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:27:00 - [29] Originally by: Aramendel Great, now you have done it. Reinstalling HW2 right now. lol i'm so tempted to install it again --------------------------------------------- no sig for you !!!
Usarua	Posted - 2007.09.15 11:35:00 - [30] you think thats bad? try a tristan. no empty missile points and they just manifest from the center. looks very odd particularly on a frigate

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