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recoil serenity
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Posted - 2007.09.16 00:05:00 -
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I've been doing level 4 missions in my CNR with no real problem but I have a high slot with republic fleet 800mm artillery any ideas what might be better I can't put 1200mm in because lack of power grid. here is my setup
high
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher x5
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher x2
Republic Fleet 800mm Repeating Artillery x1
med
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II x3
Dark Blood Heavy Capacitor Booster
low
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System x3
Dark Blood PDS x3
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SkyFlyer
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:16:00 -
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I have Things for You!
1. Use 7x Caldari Navy Cruise!
2.Take off the Large shield Extender for a shield boost amplifier!
3. Take off the cap booster and use 4x Rat Specific Hardener!
4. WTB Navy Raven with 6 Lows  |
Khan Dhu
Khan Dhu Research and Cloning
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Posted - 2007.09.16 01:35:00 -
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Drop the mixed weaponry. Put a faction NOS with a 30km range in your free high slot.
Drop the extender, too, replace it with the shield boost amplifier. Two invuln fields and a mission-specific hardener for the "primary"/dominant damage type will do you better, as well.
In the lows, unless the multiple PDS are absolutely necessary (in which case you should keep training fitting skills until you're up to AWU 4 if you aren't already), drop one and put a Damage Control II in for the slight boost to the shield resists and "insurance" on your hull.
Rigs - you can go with all CCC, or you can go with two CCC and a shield rig - my choices would be the Core Capacitor Sa***uard (reduction to the cap use of boosters) or a resist rig for your weakest stat. Use EFT to find out which stat that is.
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SkyFlyer
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Posted - 2007.09.16 11:43:00 -
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Edited by: SkyFlyer on 16/09/2007 11:44:25
Ehm
You don't need AWU 4 for fitting a Navy Raven i can fit it and i dont even have AWU 1
My Fitting is:
High Slots:
7x "Arbalest" Cruise Missle Launcher 1x Heavy Nos
Med Slots:
1x Pith B-Type Shield Booster
1x Caldari Navy Shield Boost amplifier
4x Mission Specific Hardener T2
Low Slots:
1x Dark Blood Power Diagnostic System
2x Power Diagnostic System II
2x Caldari Navy Ballistic Controls
Rigs:
3 Capacitor Control Circuits
and it all fits with Weapon Upgrades V and no AWU needed here!
Edit: Rigs added
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recoil serenity
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:08:00 -
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Thanks for the advice I think I have sorted it out, not to sure whether to change the cap booster for a Invulnerability Field though as it has got me out of a few jams in low sec space with pirates camping gates
high
Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launcher x 7
Faction heavy nos
med
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Faction shield boost amplifier
Invulnerability Field II x3
Dark Blood Heavy Capacitor Booster
low
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System x3
Dark Blood PDS x2
rigs
Capacitor Control Circuits x 2
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Primp CNR
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Posted - 2007.09.17 09:20:00 -
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Edited by: Primp CNR on 17/09/2007 09:25:39
Perm Tank, over 1100 DPS, but cost a lot of isk
High
7x Estamel Siege
1x Brynn 425mm
Med
Gist XT XL SB
Estamel Invul
2x Pith XT Hardener (rat type)
Draclira Cap Recharger
Named TP
Low
3x Estamel BCU
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Fuazzole
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Posted - 2007.09.17 09:38:00 -
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Don't listen to some one that still use's "named" weapons about cruise/siege.
about ur question, if u have the CPU, u could go tractor beam, saves those 5min travel times to go 20km to get a can.
side note, ur Mid Slot config is very questionable
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:29:00 -
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 Originally by: SkyFlyer
You don't need AWU 4 for fitting a Navy Raven
You are also using sub standard weaponry. AWU is needed if you go for more effective fittings for CNR. Cruise missiles are also not the most effective way of using your CNR, altho they work ofc - there are just better (read: approx 30 % faster mission completion time) solutions named siege launchers (assuming you pay attention to your missions).
Cheap(ish) Siege setup
7x Navy Siege 1x Something
1x T2 XL booster 3x T2 hardener 1x PWNAGE painter 1x Heavy Cap injector II
3x Navy BCU 1x beta RCU 1x T2 CPU
3x CCC I rigs, 5x light and medium T2 drones
If you have more isk then faction tank is ok for more comfort. T2 is enough if you are aware what you are doing tho. This setup gives you good running speed for isk spent on it without unreasonable investments for just 'pimp factor' (like estamel launhers). That fit needs AWU. With faction shield booster you might perhaps also pull it off without cap injector.
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SkyFlyer
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Posted - 2007.09.27 21:08:00 -
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Originally by: Fuazzole
Don't listen to some one that still use's "named" weapons about cruise/siege.
about ur question, if u have the CPU, u could go tractor beam, saves those 5min travel times to go 20km to get a can.
side note, ur Mid Slot config is very questionable
lol dude it doesnt matter i have the iskies for the drad guristas or caldari navy but i just cbf to buy them ffs
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Lugburz
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Posted - 2007.09.28 00:04:00 -
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just a quickie, my set up 
4 x cruise launchers (CN)
3 x siege launchers(arbalest)
1 x drone link
1 x x large shield booster (CN)
1 x cap recharger t2
4 x t2 hardners (Usually 1 invuln and 3 mission)
3 x cap relays t2
2 x power diagnostics t2
5 medium scout drones (set group for cruisers)
5 light scout drones (set group for interceptors/frigs)
With the right skills you can perma rep the shield booster (my cap stabalizes at about 41%) anything smaller than a BS can be taken out by the drones easily (t2 drones interfacing at lvl 3)
Might have problems on some rooms like AE bonus or if you aggro everything at once - but then if you want to pwn lvl 4's you'll get the gist x type booster and hardners
Just as a footnote:
i tend to always use 1 invul and one therm hardner + either
2 photon for bloods and sansha
2 ballistic for guristas
1 therm and 1 ballistic for serps and angels
also might consider swapping out the drone link for NOS only when facing blood raiders
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Neon Ghost
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Posted - 2007.09.28 01:19:00 -
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The 'Navy Special' :)
Internal Force Field Array I
Beta Reactor Control: Diagnostic System I
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy X-Large Shield Booster
Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field
Amarr Navy Heavy Capacitor Booster
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
Capacitor Control Circuit I
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Experimental CNR
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:31:00 -
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Edited by: Experimental CNR on 03/10/2007 10:34:39
Low:
3x Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
2x Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System
Med:
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster (or a C-Type XL for even more cap duration: 11m29s, SBoost amt: 761hp and with Crystal's: 1169hp)
4x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
High:
7x Tobias' Modified Cruise Missile Launcher or
7x Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Laucher (ROF 5.8/6.4sec)
EMPTY, but in my case i have a "220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II" - to aid drones to pop small stuff thats in a range within 10km (scramber/webber frigs)
Rig:
3x Capacitor Control Circuit I
CPU: 856.4/900 (43.6 free) | With CNCML's: 898.4 / 900 (1.6 free)
PG: 8482 / 14108,69 (alot free) | With CNCML's: 7694.5 / 14108,69 (alot free)
LaucherDPS: 660.3 | With CNCML's: 603.6
Capacitor balance: -59.2/+49.6 (6m36s before it goes empty if Shieldbooster is left on)
Shield Boost Ammount With Full-Grade Crystal Set: 1497hp (974.4hp without the Crystal-Set)
Shield Ressistances:
EM: 82.7%
TRM:86.1%
KIN:89.6%
EXP:93.1%
Looks good on paper, and prolly is the best L4 killmission grinder, but the pricetag as a few AU's of isk.
Any thougts? Feedback etc?
-Xcnr
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Neon Ghost
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Posted - 2007.10.03 11:45:00 -
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Seeing all these pimped out cruise setups makes me sad. IMHO the only time you should use cruise on a mission raven is if you don't have the skills and/or ISK to squeeze siege launchers on, something which is clearly not an issue for the people bandying officer-fitted setups around.
Using cruise launchers sacrifices a huge chunk of your dps (7 siege launchers do as much dps as 9.6 cruise launchers!). Every CNR setup should start with 7 siege launchers, 3 BCU's and a target painter, the rest of the slots may be used to support your tank. Anything else is simply inefficient.
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Tekterra
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.10.05 21:31:00 -
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Some people keep saying use Siege instead of Cruise. I'm just getting into lvl 4 missions as well. My concern is Siege ability to deal with Smaller ship. Would you say a torp still dose more damage than a cruise to a same target? By same target I mean Frigate especially some of those assualt type with much smaller signiture radius. I'm currently traing torp skills, was wondering if I should stay Cruise or Torp setup. I suppose drones would be very useful agains frigates. The torp would kill larger ships much faster no question there. I'm not sure how effective torps are again cruiser and frigates I imaging would be rather wast of ammo.
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Manus Stuprare
Slug Storm Squadron
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Posted - 2007.10.05 22:26:00 -
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Torps vs bs = vastly superior to cruise.
Torps vs bc = superior to cruise.
Torps + target painter vs smaller ships = slightly worse than cruise.
Torps + 2 target painters vs smaller ships = superior to cruise.
And you're right, drones are the perfect tool for getting rid of those pesky frigates, while your missiles shred the bigger stuff.
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Fink Angel
Caldari
The Merry Men
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Posted - 2007.10.05 23:31:00 -
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Originally by: Experimental CNR
3x Estamel's Modified Ballistic Control System
2x Chelm's Modified Power Diagnostic System
Pith X-Type Shield Boost Amplifier
Gist X-Type X-Large Shield Booster (or a C-Type XL for even more cap duration: 11m29s, 4x Estamel's Modified Invulnerability Field
7x Tobias' Modified Cruise Missile Launcher or
Any thougts? Feedback etc?
-Xcnr
Thoughts ... wow! Do you play the same game as me? Why not just buy a mothership if you have that much money?
That's fairly insane. Does anyone really have such fits outside of theoretical quickfit?
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Carniflex
Caldari
Fallout Research
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.10.06 09:50:00 -
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Originally by: Fink Angel
Thoughts ... wow! Do you play the same game as me? Why not just buy a mothership if you have that much money?
That's fairly insane. Does anyone really have such fits outside of theoretical quickfit?
The Entity has has State Issue Raven with full Estamel fit. Don't think there are any other ravens with that expencive setup. Then again Entity has plenty of unique ships as he collects them. That Raven is not used to run missions as far as I'm aware tho. If it would there would be entire corps dedicated to hunting it to suicide gank it.
Above certain level it comes economically sensible to suicide gank your CNR. It's not reasonable usually for reasonable faction fits but if you fit mostly officer it's worth the effort to find you wait for opportunity with enough pilots to kill you before concord arrives and kill you when opportunity arises. And not even full officer fit helps against it if there is enough firepower available to kill you in approx 10 seconds.
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Lugburz
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Posted - 2007.10.07 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: SkyFlyer
I have Things for You!
1. Use 7x Caldari Navy Cruise!
2.Take off the Large shield Extender for a shield boost amplifier!
3. Take off the cap booster and use 4x Rat Specific Hardener!
4. WTB Navy Raven with 6 Lows
so do i...dude...wheres yer face?? lol
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Schylok
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Posted - 2007.10.12 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Carniflex
Originally by: Fink Angel
Thoughts ... wow! Do you play the same game as me? Why not just buy a mothership if you have that much money?
That's fairly insane. Does anyone really have such fits outside of theoretical quickfit?
The Entity has has State Issue Raven with full Estamel fit. Don't think there are any other ravens with that expencive setup. Then again Entity has plenty of unique ships as he collects them. That Raven is not used to run missions as far as I'm aware tho. If it would there would be entire corps dedicated to hunting it to suicide gank it.
Above certain level it comes economically sensible to suicide gank your CNR. It's not reasonable usually for reasonable faction fits but if you fit mostly officer it's worth the effort to find you wait for opportunity with enough pilots to kill you before concord arrives and kill you when opportunity arises. And not even full officer fit helps against it if there is enough firepower available to kill you in approx 10 seconds.
Carniflex, I've read a lot of posts by you recently on Siege vs Cruise, Navy Raven setups, etc, but you've never posted your standard setup! I'd love to see it!
On a similar note: I've only recently got my Navy Raven for my main, and am moving over my faction/T2 geared Raven onto it. Here's what I'd like from either Carniflex or the general community:
I could pretty much do any level 4 mission on my Raven EXCEPT AE Bonus Room, and I want to. I need a cheap (less than you know, 500 million for fittings) setup that 1) MUST use Siege 2) Doesn't require officer gear, only Caldari Navy and similar faction gear at the highest and 3) Doesn't need to warp out at all on AE Bonus.
For most missions I use a DG Large shield booster permarunning and it works nicely...I know this won't cut it for AE Bonus, so I have an CN X-Large waiting for the right setup but I just can't get everything to fit to my liking and want some real fits that people use for the AE Bonus room.
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Laes Jenia
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Posted - 2007.10.12 22:50:00 -
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Originally by: Primp CNR
Edited by: Primp CNR on 17/09/2007 09:41:59
This is a perfect fit, Perm Tank setup, with 37.25pg & 1.92 CPU left over. Can do over 1300 DPS, resistance over 85%, but cost a lot of isk.
This setup costs what.. 25b isk? 30b? Replace the whole thing with a mothership and gank people at gates.
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