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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.20 00:49:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Lady Spank wrote:Whatever tech Sansha are using to circumvent CONCORD and Navy effectiveness should extend to capsuleers.
Not only does this make sense in an immersive way but it also places high sec incursion income in line with that of low sec (and null to a lesser extent) but it also provides opt-in PvP for high sec dwellers in lieu of the Dec shield mechanics that nullify a lot of high sec PVP opportunity.
For those that don't like the inherent risk of PvP there are still decent income sources available in safer empire.
Edit: This provides a suitable risk versus reward considering L4 missions earn a conservative 20m per hour but incursions give a conservative 60-70m per hour. I completely agree with your idea. I think CCP should institute it as soon as they make tech moons only spawn in 0.8 space or higher, so you can't anchor a POS at one.
i doubt you understand how moons work but incursion farming (70M ISK/hour average) and a tech moon (less than 10m isk/hour, with the added effort of having to fuel the tower, empty the silos and haul the moon minerals to Jita for sale) are two very different things
the more you know |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.20 01:48:00 -
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nerf all highsec income |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.20 09:27:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Maybe if you guys actually paid your rank and file members a bit more of the raw income from 0.0 spoils, you would have more available for ops, instead of seeing them running high sec incursions.
last month we poured 18 tech moons worth of income into subcapital reimbursements alone, tell me more about how we don't give enough ISK to our members
and wow one tech moon, i am impressed by your tenacity, we only have to fuel/empty/time 60+ along with 150+ other towers across 6-7 regions |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.20 09:48:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:If you can't get your members into CTAs it means you aren't giving them enough. Tho something tells me that figure isn't accurate anyway.
some "goons" run lowsec incursions and we have no problem with fleet participation, we don't need to do CTAs
and yes that figure is accurate, moron - 18 tech moons over a month is ~120b ISK, I only used the "tech moons" thing to put it into perspective
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:And even if it is. Then you are just as mad anyway because poor wittle nullsec moon empires might/are having to pour tech moon income into real SRP programs that are more than T1 frigs.
we pay idiots 120m when they lose their cynabals trying to solo PvP in syndicate, tell me more about "T1 frigs"
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:So the solution to the lords is kill hisec and see how many come to your empire instead of leaving the game. Start with random people grouping for fun in hisec. Then kill mining (O wait that was first) Then kill any mission running.
That should get them "members" to shut up about SRPs so we can enjoy our moon goo.
"grouping for fun" or "get the **** out of our vanguard fleet with your scrub t2 fit nightmare, you're ruining OUR RISK-FREE ISK PER HOUR" lmao
we have a broad reimbursement program and you have no clue what you're talking about, the game won't shed a tear when the incursion runners are gone |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1597
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Posted - 2012.01.20 10:33:00 -
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Renturu wrote:Sounds good. Now, you face the massive Blobs taking over the incursions or you get popped for being in their territory and the focus is then taken away from incursions and more to 0.0 PVP.
Why not limit daily incursion runs per char? say 5 per day, which level you choose is up to you but only 5 then no more. That way you stifle the "farming" so people aren't pulling in ridiculous amounts of isk. IDK... Just a thought.
that'd be unfair to incursions. I can run anoms all day if I want, if someone is bored enough to run incursion sites for 8 hours straight, fine by me. the issue is blitzing. |
Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.01.20 20:52:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:baltec1 wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Signho wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:If you want to compete with people in highsec incursions, get a fleet together and outgun them.
Simple. you are missing the point of the OP. No I'm not. I know exactly what the OP is wanting here, I'm just telling them that they should probably try the current game mechanics to put risk in before poking and whining and demanding that someone else's game is broken. There is no risk under the current mechanics... Drunk logi, Fake Logi, Crap FC, Network issues, Mass DCs, Module misclicks, on and on. Compared to easy mode Anoms and Tech moons Incursions are downright risky. Especially with a pimped ship.
No, they are not. Network issues, mass DCs and misclicks can easily happen in anoms and you're dead.
People fly pimped faction ships in incursions because they are risk-free. |
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