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Morn Judith
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:02:00 -
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This is just a quick question.
For those of us that have been around awhile, we remember how "bad" Yulai was. It was the main trade hub, and, really, the only trade hub at the time that you could go and buy or sell anything. I can't really recall how long ago this was, maybe 2 years? Our peak of online players at the time was probably around 15k.
Well, due to the load on Yulai, it was nerfed. Trade routes were moved, as were agents, and the strain on Yulai was ended. Many people didn't appreciate it, but it was certainly necessary.
Well. Now we have Jita. I was smart and didn't log in today during the peak time. But I'm sure Jita was close to 1000 pilots full. I know that Jita is on it's own node, but obviously doesn't do the job.
So my question, when will something be done? But more than that, what exactly can be done to fix the problem? Moving routes and the like will help. It would be great if we could opt to not travel through Jita on a trip. I personally will not take a trip if the route involves Jita. Are there still agents in Jita? If there are, I'm sure they'd have to be moved. It's possible that the entire constellation may have to be rearranged.
So is there a plan to relieve this problem? Devs?
 Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Murtala
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:07:00 -
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Troll, see other Jita threads
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:13:00 -
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Alas Jita falls under the "Field of Dreams" subsection.. Build it and they will come till it lags again then que another Jita whine fest.. Honestly Jita used to lag at 100 people now it lags at 800~1000 people with the absolute maximum power that the devs can give it with a whole node to itself.. Don't log off in Jita and you'll be a happy trader.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth
ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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Morn Judith
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Murtala
Troll, see other Jita threads
How is this a troll thread? I'm curious if they have a plan for it.
You, sir, are the troll!
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Del Narveux
Dukes of Hazard
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:16:00 -
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Ive heard that there is indeed a plan, and that it involves cowbell.
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Is that my torped sig cloaking your base?
Originally by: Wrangler
Well, at least we have forum PvP..
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Ilvan
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:18:00 -
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I have a plan. Anyone entering Jita has a 1 in 3 chance of being podded, courtesy of CONCORD.
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Wendat Huron
Stellar Solutions
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:18:00 -
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Buy a stockpile of goods, move them a few systems out and mark them up some and people may very well go there to shop instead of the deadhole that is Jita.
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Eulalinda
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.09.17 00:24:00 -
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Edited by: Eulalinda on 17/09/2007 00:25:14
They tried to fix Jita with one of the recent patches (Revelations 2)? They removed asteroid belts from Jita. They also changed a few jumps (stargates). That didn't help much.
So I too am curious what the plan is.
Originally by: Morn Judith
Originally by: Murtala
Troll, see other Jita threads
How is this a troll thread? I'm curious if they have a plan for it.
You, sir, are the troll!
Yes, there will always be lapdogs: those that defend power (in this case CCP) despite the charge.
With 190,000 paying EVE customers and game time costing $11-15/month, CCP collects from us $2.1-2.8 million/month ($25-34 million/year). Server upgrades? |
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Kaemonn
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:49:00 -
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There is a Dev Blog about some server upgrades happening soon under the "I want more" heading. Seems the new technology will allow multiple nodes per system, reducing lag. (5 nodes for jita anyone?)
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Originally by: kieron: off duty
You dont have to swallow!
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Outa Rileau
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Posted - 2007.09.17 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn
(5 nodes for jita anyone?)
I support this planÖ
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Jei'son Bladesmith
Bladesmith Mining and Development Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.17 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Wendat Huron
Buy a stockpile of goods, move them a few systems out and mark them up some and people may very well go there to shop instead of the deadhole that is Jita.
God knows I'm perfectly happy paying more if it means avoiding Jita.
☼☼☼ Don't even THINK about it rookie...I have all my capacitor and more hit points than you can POSSIBLY imagine. ☼☼☼
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THEGREAT LOBO
Trouble Every Day
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Posted - 2007.09.17 02:42:00 -
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Whats with all the jita threads today ?
Its sunday.. Jita on a sunday is a no no, Just don't go there on a sunday and you won't get stuck. (very simple)
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Morn Judith
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.09.17 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Kaemonn
There is a Dev Blog about some server upgrades happening soon under the "I want more" heading. Seems the new technology will allow multiple nodes per system, reducing lag. (5 nodes for jita anyone?)
See, that is stuff I'm looking for! Thanks! What else?
Do you think it'll be possible to have nodes on standby, and they can be put to reinforce systems that are having major battles?
Originally by: CCP Oveur
The client handles no logic, it is simply a dumb terminal.
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Thanos Draicon
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Posted - 2007.09.17 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Morn Judith
Originally by: Kaemonn
There is a Dev Blog about some server upgrades happening soon under the "I want more" heading. Seems the new technology will allow multiple nodes per system, reducing lag. (5 nodes for jita anyone?)
See, that is stuff I'm looking for! Thanks! What else?
Do you think it'll be possible to have nodes on standby, and they can be put to reinforce systems that are having major battles?
Apparently they're working on load-balancing multiple systems between two or more clusters, but most likely if one system gets very laggy due to a battle the surrounding nodes would "chip in" to help reduce that load. I don't think there would be any pure "standby" nodes because they would be better used reducing the overall lag anyway, and could just be reassigned when the need arises.
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Daelorn
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.17 03:08:00 -
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I say we bring back the highways and make Yulai the hub again. Yulai was a much cooler hub than Jita. 
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F'nog
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.09.17 04:45:00 -
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Originally by: Daelorn
I say we bring back the highways and make Yulai the hub again. Yulai was a much cooler hub than Jita.
Not really. At least most people can spell Jita correctly. "Yulia" anyone?
I used to get It.
Then It changed.
Now I don't even know what It is.
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Caia
Gallente
Scrutari
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.09.17 04:59:00 -
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Only 5 nodes for Jita?! Gonna need at least 10.
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Dred'Pirate Jesus
Amarr
Ministry of War
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Posted - 2007.09.17 05:56:00 -
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Originally by: Caia
Only 5 nodes for Jita?! Gonna need at least 10.
Lol I can't wait for the "OMG 12000 PEOPLE ARE IN JITA AND IT LAAAAAAAAGSSSSSSSSS FFS FIX IT CCP YOU DOLTS!!" threads.. 
Originally by: David Hackworth
ò If you find yourself in a fair fight, you didn't plan your mission properly.
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MotoTsume
Gallente
Clan Black Scorpion
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:04:00 -
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Originally by: Dred'Pirate Jesus
Originally by: Caia
Only 5 nodes for Jita?! Gonna need at least 10.
Lol I can't wait for the "OMG 12000 PEOPLE ARE IN JITA AND IT LAAAAAAAAGSSSSSSSSS FFS FIX IT CCP YOU DOLTS!!" threads..
ROLF
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It's just a game........Or is it?
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Raneru
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:55:00 -
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Connect extra systems to route around Jita and add an "avoid system" option to autopilot. Then at least people going south to north can miss it out 
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Sokratesz
Paradox v2.0
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.17 07:57:00 -
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Barrel Roll. That should solve it.
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Tivookz
Caldari
The Singularity Amalgamation
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.09.17 08:06:00 -
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I was thinking if it wouldn't be better to disable the ability to fly around in Jita making it a chatroom that you enter when you jump into Jita where u select which station u want to enter instantly, no flying, no pirates camping outside the navy assembly plant etc just pure trading.
When you feel like leaving you press the undock button and it then gives you the opportunity to leave through new caldari or whatever system you would like to jump to.
This would speed up the process for people who just enter jita to buy one item and then leave instead of keeping them in the system for 30 minutes because of the lag.
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Malcanis
High4Life
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.17 08:21:00 -
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Originally by: Raneru
Connect extra systems to route around Jita and add an "avoid system" option to autopilot. Then at least people going south to north can miss it out
In all seriousness, the Autopilot really could use that option.
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Cornucopian
Gallente
Orias Fringe Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.17 08:27:00 -
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whats a jita? seriously, why do people persist on going there.... much more money to be made elswhere
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"post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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343conspiracy43345
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:03:00 -
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Jita goes up to 2000 not just 1000.
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River Myst
The Littlest Hobos
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.09.17 12:46:00 -
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As far as I recall, Yulai was never deliberately nerfed. The jumpgate "super highways" that connected the 4 main Empires were re-routed to make the trip between Empires longer unless you wanted to pass through low-sec space.
This resulted in Yulai moving from what was a 5 jump trip from Rens to a much longer distance unless you wanted to run the Amamake gauntlet.
Now that I think about it, what a great idea: make most of the most direct routes into Jita 0.4 and below! 
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Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:20:00 -
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The Jita solution:
Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
Originally by: Roy Batty68
My software has wronged me!!! And it's immediately "sorry". Well, ok then. I suppose I'm not so upset at my software if it appologizes.
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Shanur
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:45:00 -
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Originally by: THEGREAT LOBO
Whats with all the jita threads today ?
Its sunday.. Jita on a sunday is a no no, Just don't go there on a sunday and you won't get stuck. (very simple)
That's just it. A lot of business goes trough Jita and in order to drop off or pick up stuff traded there you have to enter the system. Lately it's going to the point where about half the people warping in are met with a black screen of death, even if they just want to dump their goods and bugger off to Perimeter to actually sell them. Rendering the main trade hub of the game inaccessible whenever the USA is off work (only time i got a black screen was on labor day. Not even a weekend) is just a tiny bit undesired.
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An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:48:00 -
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Originally by: Eulalinda
Edited by: Eulalinda on 17/09/2007 00:25:14
They tried to fix Jita with one of the recent patches (Revelations 2)? They removed asteroid belts from Jita. They also changed a few jumps (stargates). That didn't help much.
So I too am curious what the plan is.
Originally by: Morn Judith
Originally by: Murtala
Troll, see other Jita threads
How is this a troll thread? I'm curious if they have a plan for it.
You, sir, are the troll!
Yes, there will always be lapdogs: those that defend power (in this case CCP) despite the charge.
And of course everyone pays the same rate. All net profit of course, And CCP does not pay their employees in money, only in beer, which they make in their on-site brewery.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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zilllii
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Posted - 2007.09.17 13:50:00 -
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there is a simple way to fix jita lag.
how? you get 80% of the people putting up sell orders there to put them up in another system.
after lets say 4000(adjust number as needed) sell orders/contracts are up in system add a 250% system tax due to extreme high traffic.
this will move sell orders to another system and relieve jita of alot of lag.
it will also make sure that no system will get overloaded with 957billion shopping alts selling and buying stuff but will force them to actually move around in eve to find their bargains.
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