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Deschenus Maximus Amarr Digital Fury Corporation Digital Renegades	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:48:00 - [31] Yes to 5th turret (or drone bay, whichever).
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:48:00 - [32] Quote: Cerberus DPS @ 40km, 495 Zealot DPS @ 35km, 365. Cerberus DPS @ 10km, 495 Zealot DPS @ 10km, 454 What was that you were saying about being the king of mid range dps now? cept cerb is insanely slow and has delayed damage. So yeah, zealot is king of mid range.
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:48:00 - [33] Quote: Yes to 5th turret (or drone bay, whichever). I think a drone bay would set this ship straight... its never fair for one race's hacs to get huge drone bays and another's to have none :(
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:54:00 - [34] Originally by: KD.Fluffy Quote: Cerberus DPS @ 40km, 495 Zealot DPS @ 35km, 365. Cerberus DPS @ 10km, 495 Zealot DPS @ 10km, 454 What was that you were saying about being the king of mid range dps now? cept cerb is insanely slow and has delayed damage. So yeah, zealot is king of mid range. Only for the first 30 seconds assuming the Zealot doesnt have to move to be able to fire[if the Zealot has to move for 2 seconds, that number is 15 seconds]. If the target would not last 30 seconds then the Pulse Zealot is not an advantagious fit over the Beam Zealot, because at that point DPS is less important than range.
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 17:57:00 - [35] Quote: Only for the first 30 seconds assuming the Zealot doesnt have to move to be able to fire[if the Zealot has to move for 2 seconds, that number is 15 seconds]. If the target would not last 30 seconds then the Pulse Zealot is not an advantagious fit over the Beam Zealot, because at that point DPS is less important than range. yes thanks for confirming my point. It takes a whole half minute for the cerb to catch up in damage done. You add another turret to the thing, and the cerb will never outdamage it, coupled with its insane low speed, and high mass it will literally have no point whatsoever.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:00:00 - [36] I'm personally pro +1 turret to the Zealot, tbh. But, if they add +1 to the Zealot, the Eagle will require +1 turret as well. The Muninn, I think, could stand another mid slot to be "in line" with the Zealot/Eagle at that point. Liang Yarr?
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:02:00 - [37] Originally by: KD.Fluffy Quote: Only for the first 30 seconds assuming the Zealot doesnt have to move to be able to fire[if the Zealot has to move for 2 seconds, that number is 15 seconds]. If the target would not last 30 seconds then the Pulse Zealot is not an advantagious fit over the Beam Zealot, because at that point DPS is less important than range. yes thanks for confirming my point. It takes a whole half minute for the cerb to catch up in damage done. You add another turret to the thing, and the cerb will never outdamage it, coupled with its insane low speed, and high mass it will literally have no point whatsoever. Wait, so the cerb being better because its better in all situations that call for that fit makes it worse? That the cerb can then also hit out to as far as it can lock is not a bonus? Its one of the best small gang ships especially combined with skirmish mods, where it is fast enough to deal DPS, and can put DPS on any target that presents itself. The only thing the Cerb needs at this point is a powergrid reduction on hams.
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:02:00 - [38] Quote: I'm personally pro +1 turret to the Zealot, tbh. But, if they add +1 to the Zealot, the Eagle will require +1 turret as well. The Muninn, I think, could stand another mid slot to be "in line" with the Zealot/Eagle at that point. Liang Yarr? that sounds bout right.
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:03:00 - [39] Originally by: Liang Nuren I'm personally pro +1 turret to the Zealot, tbh. But, if they add +1 to the Zealot, the Eagle will require +1 turret as well. The Muninn, I think, could stand another mid slot to be "in line" with the Zealot/Eagle at that point. Liang No it wont. If the Eagle only had 1 range bonus it would make sesne, but it has two, and so it is not.
KD.Fluffy The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:03:00 - [40] Quote: Wait, so the cerb being better because its better in all situations that call for that fit makes it worse? That the cerb can then also hit out to as far as it can lock is not a bonus? Its one of the best small gang ships especially combined with skirmish mods, where it is fast enough to deal DPS, and can put DPS on any target that presents itself. The only thing the Cerb needs at this point is a powergrid reduction on hams. this is hilarous... cerb better in all situations? lmao. I dont know why I argue with this bumbling idiot, but his goon leadership needs to squelch his ass becuase he makes their alliance look bad.
Liang Nuren The Refugees	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:05:00 - [41] Originally by: KD.Fluffy Quote: Wait, so the cerb being better because its better in all situations that call for that fit makes it worse? That the cerb can then also hit out to as far as it can lock is not a bonus? Its one of the best small gang ships especially combined with skirmish mods, where it is fast enough to deal DPS, and can put DPS on any target that presents itself. The only thing the Cerb needs at this point is a powergrid reduction on hams. this is hilarous... cerb better in all situations? lmao. I dont know why I argue with this bumbling idiot, but his goon leadership needs to squelch his ass becuase he makes their alliance look bad. Fluffy... they're goons. Seriously, WTF do you expect but someone that wants to break the game and ruin it? (seriously, not trolly... just quoting some stated philosophies and intentions of goonies and goon leadership... this may or may not reflect on Goum.. just saying that he can't make his Alliance look any worse...) Liang Yarr?
Goumindong Amarr Merch Industrial GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 18:07:00 - [42] Originally by: KD.Fluffy Quote: Wait, so the cerb being better because its better in all situations that call for that fit makes it worse? That the cerb can then also hit out to as far as it can lock is not a bonus? Its one of the best small gang ships especially combined with skirmish mods, where it is fast enough to deal DPS, and can put DPS on any target that presents itself. The only thing the Cerb needs at this point is a powergrid reduction on hams. this is hilarous... cerb better in all situations? lmao. I dont know why I argue with this bumbling idiot, but his goon leadership needs to squelch his ass becuase he makes their alliance look bad. Do you have trouble reading? Better in all situations where mid range is at an advantage. The smaller the gang and the better the speed bonuses the better. P.S. Not a Goon ;)
Gagarish Amarr VVS Corporition Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:10:00 - [43] Agree. Being a sort of a longrange HAC - 5th turret is useless for nos/neutralizer. Plz make 5th turret even at the cost of golden armor.
Lisento Slaven Amarr Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:14:00 - [44] I still seem to be seeing people flying pulse zealots so at least those players think they're worth flying... I'll stick to my sacrilege though =P --- Put in space whales!
Kruel Blunt Force Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:39:00 - [45] Originally by: Lisento Slaven I still seem to be seeing people flying pulse zealots so at least those players think they're worth flying... I'll stick to my sacrilege though =P I fly a nano-pulse-Zealot. It's a lot of fun, but doesn't compare to the Curse, Sacrilege, or Ishtar in terms of dps and stopping power. Honestly the only reason I fly one is because people see me and think "oooh a Zealot, easy HAC kill!"... that is untill I start flying circles around them at 27k. I've had no shortage of fights lately that's for sure, which is kind of a good/bad thing depending on how you look at it.

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