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Methuselar
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:42:00 -
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My question is simple, Caracal's info is confusing. Do I get rocket/cruise/Torp bonus on a Caracal? Aren't they missiles?
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Haffrage
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:46:00 -
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It goes by class. Rockets are frigate missiles. Torps and cruisers are BS missiles. Yes, other weapons have it that way too. But not drones.
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Methuselar
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:50:00 -
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Edited by: Methuselar on 17/09/2007 14:52:11 Then CCP should update Caracal's info as Drake is. Only bonus light/heavy missile.
So it might be a proper nerf to make drone bonus sized on Myr/Vexor/Arbi as missile is.
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.17 14:56:00 -
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Originally by: Methuselar Edited by: Methuselar on 17/09/2007 14:52:11 Then CCP should update Caracal's info as Drake is. Only bonus light/heavy missile.
So it might be a proper nerf to make drone bonus sized on Myr/Vexor/Arbi as missile is.
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Mona X
Caldari C0VEN
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mona X on 17/09/2007 15:02:35
Originally by: Methuselar My question is simple, Caracal's info is confusing. Do I get rocket/
Maybe.
Originally by: Methuselar cruise/Torp bonus on a Caracal? Aren't they missiles?
Who cares? You won't be firing those from caracal.
Okay, it'is possible to fit 1 cruise missile launcher on caracal, but that requires some pretty expensive stuff, like tech 2 engineering rigs and officer RCUs.
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Methuselar
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:17:00 -
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Drake's info is clear, bonus to heavy and light missiles.
But if Caracal have bonus on rockets, I might be happy to fit T2 rockets on it on some situation.
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Hydrogen
Art of War Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:25:00 -
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Bonus does apply. You can even fit a T2 Cruise Launcher on a Caracal.
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Lowanaera
Amarr Paladin Imperium Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:25:00 -
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The description is clear, the Caracal is one of several ships with a universal missile bonus instead of a bonus to a specific sub-type. It's limited by fitting and speed to really only be practical with assaults or heavies, so there's no need to limit the bonus. I would hope you would never fit rockets to a Caracal, that would be extremely silly. What are you going to do with the extra fitting, slap on an XL booster that wipes your cap in two cycles?
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Reem Fairchild
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Methuselar But if Caracal have bonus on rockets, I might be happy to fit T2 rockets on it on some situation.
For the love of god, why???
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Tonto Auri
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:38:00 -
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Originally by: Reem Fairchild
Originally by: Methuselar But if Caracal have bonus on rockets, I might be happy to fit T2 rockets on it on some situation.
For the love of god, why???
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Arvald
Caldari House of Tempers
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Posted - 2007.09.17 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: Arana Tellen
Originally by: Methuselar Edited by: Methuselar on 17/09/2007 14:52:11 Then CCP should update Caracal's info as Drake is. Only bonus light/heavy missile.
So it might be a proper nerf to make drone bonus sized on Myr/Vexor/Arbi as missile is.
Ever tried to fit cruise launchers onto the drake 
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.09.17 16:00:00 -
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Originally by: Arvald yes. 2 weeks and 300 mill later no succes....
Try harder :P
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Vladimir Tinakin
Caldari Hadean Drive Yards Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.09.17 16:08:00 -
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Edited by: Vladimir Tinakin on 17/09/2007 16:08:16
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: Arvald yes. 2 weeks and 300 mill later no succes....
Try harder :P
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Arana Tellen
Gallente The Blackguard Wolves Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:51:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Tinakin Edited by: Vladimir Tinakin on 17/09/2007 16:08:16
Originally by: Elmicker
Originally by: Arvald yes. 2 weeks and 300 mill later no succes....
Try harder :P
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Methuselar
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Posted - 2007.09.20 06:53:00 -
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How about nano Caracal with T2 rockets?
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Julius Romanus
Bloodmoney Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.20 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Methuselar How about nano Caracal with T2 rockets?
Do it, and go fly around lowsec. be sure to spam your fitting and location.
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Ess Erbe
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.20 10:33:00 -
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Originally by: Methuselar Drake's info is clear, bonus to heavy and light missiles.
Heavies and HAM, the light missile bonus was apparently never there and the mentioning of it in the description was axed.
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Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:23:00 -
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Yeah the bonus description is wrong... They only apply to Lights, Heavy's and Heavy Assault's. I made a bug report some 7-8 months ago about it... CCP dont give a sh*t...
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Shandelzare
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Methuselar How about nano Caracal with T2 rockets?
not really viable, with caracal being 1 of the heaviest and slowest cruisers in the game, with only 4 low slots
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Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2007.09.20 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Shandelzare
Originally by: Methuselar How about nano Caracal with T2 rockets?
not really viable, with caracal being 1 of the heaviest and slowest cruisers in the game, with only 4 low slots
Caracal stats
Oh and WTB caracal with 4 lowslots.... 
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Pinky Denmark
The Cursed Navy
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Posted - 2007.09.20 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Pinky Denmark on 20/09/2007 13:17:32 WTB Caracal with 4 lowslots? Not a problem - It's called a Navy Issue...
And you do not want to use rockets on the Caracal - Use Assault Missile Launchers... They have the same DPS, much better range, and they don't have to reload every 30 seconds - also you can get better dps with fury and nuke ceptors with precision.
Lots of space for MWD and Large Shield Extenders - be careful around Siege Ravens though 
EDIT: I have actually attempted a Rocket Caracal just to see the rocket spamming... I had hoped for better fireworks but you really only have VERY weak reasons to fit rockets. - I'm a nice guy!!
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Stork DK
Synthetic Frontiers
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:22:00 -
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Originally by: Pinky Denmark Edited by: Pinky Denmark on 20/09/2007 13:17:32 WTB Caracal with 4 lowslots? Not a problem - It's called a Navy Issue...
And you do not want to use rockets on the Caracal - Use Assault Missile Launchers... They have the same DPS, much better range, and they don't have to reload every 30 seconds - also you can get better dps with fury and nuke ceptors with precision.
Lots of space for MWD and Large Shield Extenders - be careful around Siege Ravens though 
EDIT: I have actually attempted a Rocket Caracal just to see the rocket spamming... I had hoped for better fireworks but you really only have VERY weak reasons to fit rockets.
Dont think anyone in his right mind would ever attempt to fit rockets on anavy issue. If the dmg bonus applied to the rockets also youd get better dmg with rockets than light missiles. But standards would be the best choice.
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Acoco Osiris
Gallente Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 13:41:00 -
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Could always be using rockets merely to fit a ****load of LSE IIs :)
Example (well, assault launchers aren't rockets, but they are lower-fitting than heavy/HAM launchers) 5x assault missile launchers 3 LSEs 2x mission-specific passive resist arrays A mix of 2 SPRs and BCUs. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars. |
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