Good thing that they're not nerfing it or kililng it for PvP, then.

They're doing the exact opposite: they're honing it for PvP by giving it better damage output and projection, while scaling down its tank a bit to compensate for this significant offensive buff.

The reason people fly drakes is that people skill for caldari for pve (despite the maelstrom being loads better than the raven for level 4s) and the drake, tengu and (ugh) falcon are pretty much the only caldari ships worth flying. (Nighthawk too, but its pretty much just an expensive drake).

I personally believe that the drake should be kept as it is.
however it could be benificial to the game if all other ships were buffed to some degree so that they could compete with the drake (and the Hurricane).
-give the brutix more spped and agility
-give the cyclone a dammage bonus to missiles as well as its current bonus to projectiles. (make use of those missile slots)
-give the myrmidon a buff to its drones.
-give the prophecy a real dammage bonus to lasers
-give the harbinger more fitting options.

basicly if other ships were really good doing what they are ment to do (like the drake) then we would see more variety in fleets. drakes will still be king of missile boats and the hurricane the king of projectiles but ofther ships would be able to claim thier own titles more effectively and still be able to compete against eachother.
keep the drake as it is and give other ships an edge.
thats all

---Well yes the idea is to improve other ships so that they are on par with the drake, i love the drake as it is, but the problem could be resolved by improving other ships so they are more enjoyable to fly.
and better at what they are ment to do.
Everyone is happy everyone wins

To put this simply: those that really know how to use the Drake will continue to do so, and probably better in some ways.
Those who are clueless newbies that are upset their mission ship is broken will continue to cry and moan in the face of the inevitable.

THIS IN NOT A VALID COUNTER ARGUMENT

My argument is based on actual DATA and data anylisis. It contain objective truths, such as a speed boosted heavy missile takes 8.5 seconds to reach a target 65 km away, upon which my arguments are based.

YOUR counter argument contains nothing more than OPINION! Opinion not based on ANY actual data.

Therfore, as per the rules of logical debate, you have NOT countered my argument.

Hey Duchess Starshitforbrains

Why don't you come out to Gallente-Caldari low sec in your super Drake and I'd be more than happy to show you just how "noob fit" my 2 HML autocane really is .

In fact,Just come out ,if you think I am so new...I'd be happy to "school you" on just how little you know what you are talking about.

And as small gang warfare consitutes 90 percent of PVP, nerfing it to "balance" a very small part of pvp whilst unbalancing it for the vast majority of pvp is simply ludicrous.

Lol, well if your gonna call someone a pvp noob, you BETTER be willing to put your mony where your mouth is. Having NO measurable combat experience herself, and making comments which show a general lack of knowledge of PVP game mechanics; makes duchess big mouth's comments morinic to begin with.

you're just sticking your fingers in your ears and going "lalalala I can't hear you".
That's why you're a moron.

And for the record, if and when this change hits - I might just start flying Drakes again. The HAM fit will be a lot more interesting, and as I have a clue how to fit mine it'll still have a solid tank.

personally i disagree with most peoples arguments of ships being over powered which somehow unbalance the game. its not like you cant train to fly it yourself. if you dont like your race, why did you choose them? I'm all for having ccp design a gellente and/or an amarr bc overpowered in their own way. I say things are too even, and should be more diverse.

i remember when everybody used to complain the drake was useless at pvp, afaik they havent changed it so....

When you factor the t3's can spank battlecruisers (a larger size vessel) with absolutely no problems, yeah...I'd say they could use a buff.

I don't have a problem with them beating them necessarily. It's the fact that they can pwn them like the hulk with a doggy toy..

I have the tengu maxed out in every possible variation. I have all possible missile, shield, support, and velocity skills that would effect the tengu maxed out.
With my current pve form I have 705 dps and am capable of a much more durable tank than a golem, not to mention its much faster and smaller.

Is this op? Yes, but only as a cruiser sized vessel.

If you were to compare its capabilities with any other cruiser and were then to apply the difference to a battleship class t3, then that BS would essentially have over 2k dps with the effective tank of a rattlesnake. Does that sound Op for a BS class vessel? If not than you really need to reconsider what you deem to be balance.
Oh, and my tengu fit also lock quickly and has 35 sensor strength.

I have still yet to see anyone credibly refute a single point I (and the other pro-"nerf" posters) have made. I'll try and make this simple for the whining carebear OP and co:

- The removal of the shield resistance bonus places the Drake on par with the other BCs for tank, not below them. With a balanced fit, you're looking at around 60-65k EHP.
- This is a huge buff to the Drake's DPS/applied DPS.
- This is only a PVE nerf (highly debatably) to level 4 mission runners, and the Drake is a **** level 4 ship anyway so really not much has changed.
- If you really think this change will break the Drake, please present some proper evidence, because I've run the numbers and it's looking like a damn good ship with these new bonuses.
You have my deepest sympathies for the fact you might have to actually use your brains to figure out how to fly it properly with the changes.

TL:DR: The Drake will still be an excellent ship post-revamp. I refuse to seriously refer to this as a PVP nerf when all I'm seeing so far is a pretty respectable buff/rebalance.