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Thargat Caldari S-44	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:13:00 - [31] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin I will break my orders to reply. Took the liberty of removing some quotation in regard to thread-space. It's good to break orders sometimes isn't it? Kinda nice post and I mostly agree to what's being said. But the issue here (as far as Thargat can see) is if what comes out of POS warfare is worth the hassle and boredom it brings. Agony vs Reward so to speak. One major problem seems to be that all the fighting (thats tacticaly important) revolves around gates and POS (and the odd chokepoint system gate). There are no deep space monitoring stations. There are no 6x6 large grids wich are true deadspace (no warping in or out) or any other type of challenging environments. We cant even settle a planet (and NO I don't want fly/walk around planets or anything of that sort). It's just that the limited number of ways of how to fight in alliance conflicts leads to POS and gate blobbing. Bombs and DDs won't change that, people will still be blobbing in the same grid, only a bit more spread out. Huge fleetbattles are fun... haven't been involved in more than a handfull... but when lag-free (as some have been) it's been a thrilling experience wich is unmatched by ANY game on the market. Hll it beats the best of movies... but they need to be less laggy. I'm losing the thread here I think so I better stop.... ps: nice to see a quite slander free thread for once... cheers btw... tune in to EvE radio... and bring your non eveing friends too ;p There's only one sig that matters... and that's Radius.*
Illaria POS War Deserters	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Toffles I really don't think you understand 0.0 warfare as much as you think you do. The SoCo and ASCN had the same mentality as you. They thought having so many regions and stations would mean being conquered would take far too long and be far too difficult and total annihilation just looked oh so far off. Look where they ended up. Really, if people just let BoB do their thing they would quickly take the south, occupy it with brainwashed pets, and move on to the drone regions. It's only "slow attrition" because both sides are putting so much effort in. If one side just decided to stop playing pos warfare I can assure you they would lose their space very quickly. Omist was taken in 5 days because we didn't defend it. Even the most fortified systems can be taken down quickly if they aren't defended. We've cleared systems with over 30 deathstars in like 3-4 days and I'm sure bob could do the same, especially if MC was helping. So what if it takes bob a few weeks to get through it all, are you only planning on playing a few more weeks? Thanks for the insight though in how the large carebear alliances fell, it was this short sighted mindset you have. I never said that Goons should stop defending their territory. It was only an to make clear how much of a speed bumper POSes are. Of course the territories would fall if left undefended. But the Goonswarm has put a lot of effort lately to mess up with smaller regional powers of RISE and RMF. And this is something I was questioning. What do we defend, if an FC orders me to shoot RMF station services? Did I actively fought against the big BoB invasion there or did I just waste 2 hours of my time, achieving nothing, but causing the hassle for RMF to repair their cloning service in the following morning. Is the invasion of RISE because Sesfan is annoyed by them (although I admit, that this comment make me grin) a big fight in freeing the galaxy from BoB oppression or just simple conquering of a small alliance that lies on the way and has the misfortune of being the tenant to the wrong landlord. Does burning out pilots by letting them shoot at undefended POS after undefended POS, because it's destruction of BoB assets, that are already dead capital, really worth it? Let me put it this way: BoB gave up Omist because it wasn't worth it to them. They cut their losses counting that Goons would take the bait and get stuck in structural warfare against unimportant targets (this includes RISE and RMF) while they regroup with MC to go against IAC and AAA. Perhaps I'm just not enlightened enough to see the greater strategical picture but then it's a pity you never told us, because everything is OPSEC of course and we're supposed to bore us to death, blindly believing that that it's justified sacrifice for the survival of the Goonion. Who knows? vOv
Ramlir 0.0 Corp	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:33:00 - [33] The pubbie is strong in this one.
Baaldor Caldari Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:45:00 - [34] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Princess Jodi The real reason Bob is not yet dead is Lag, not the willpower or firepower of the opponents arrayed against them. Personally I think BoB would do much better than they are currently with reduced lag and not the other way round. Lag is on both sides dude. We both have to deal with it. Jumping in to 00y I just watched my Mega melt slowly from invisible targets. I knew they where there...on the gate...but alas..no shooty shooty for me. It is what it is. Its equal Bull Shtzit on both sides. THE PREVIOUS VIEWS AND STATEMENTS DO NOT REPRESENT AND OR SUPPORTED BY THE MANY VOICES IN MY HEAD.
Etho Demerzel Gallente Holy Clan of the Cone	Posted - 2007.09.17 19:47:00 - [35] Originally by: Illaria I never said that Goons should stop defending their territory. It was only an to make clear how much of a speed bumper POSes are. Of course the territories would fall if left undefended. But the Goonswarm has put a lot of effort lately to mess up with smaller regional powers of RISE and RMF. And this is something I was questioning. What do we defend, if an FC orders me to shoot RMF station services? Did I actively fought against the big BoB invasion there or did I just waste 2 hours of my time, achieving nothing, but causing the hassle for RMF to repair their cloning service in the following morning. Is the invasion of RISE because Sesfan is annoyed by them (although I admit, that this comment make me grin) a big fight in freeing the galaxy from BoB oppression or just simple conquering of a small alliance that lies on the way and has the misfortune of being the tenant to the wrong landlord. Does burning out pilots by letting them shoot at undefended POS after undefended POS, because it's destruction of BoB assets, that are already dead capital, really worth it? Let me put it this way: BoB gave up Omist because it wasn't worth it to them. They cut their losses counting that Goons would take the bait and get stuck in structural warfare against unimportant targets (this includes RISE and RMF) while they regroup with MC to go against IAC and AAA. Perhaps I'm just not enlightened enough to see the greater strategical picture but then it's a pity you never told us, because everything is OPSEC of course and we're supposed to bore us to death, blindly believing that that it's justified sacrifice for the survival of the Goonion. Who knows? vOv There is one unchallengeable truth about any empire in History: It eithers grows or shrink. There is no possible equilibrium where the situation stays as it is. So if Goons (or anyone in the same situation) don't keep pushing forward (slowly as it may be) they will be pushed back. Your logic would be reasonable if members were being gathered to make futile attacks against -Y- or some distant foe, whose territory is of no consequence to you. Rise does not fall in this category. They are your neighbors, and hostile, either you push them back or they push you back with the help of their allies. It is simple as this... ===== "If a member of the EVE community finds he or she cannot accept our current level of transparency, we bid you good luck in finding a company that meets your needs." - CCP kieron...
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.17 20:04:00 - [36] Originally by: Baaldor Lag is on both sides dude. We both have to deal with it. Jumping in to 00y I just watched my Mega melt slowly from invisible targets. I knew they where there...on the gate...but alas..no shooty shooty for me. It is what it is. Its equal Bull Shtzit on both sides. Someone claimed that BoB is surviving thanks to coalition induced lag. His point was that BoB would actually do better if there was no lag. We have thrown fleets of up to 100 for long enough. You kept bringing fleets of about 400 to "match us". Nows the time to taste your own medicine. Your whines on these forums are evidence enough on how bitter it tastes.
qantua gnartians Gallente Cosmic Odyssey YouWhat	Posted - 2007.09.17 20:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Princess Jodi I do think that other strategies are needed. For example, multiple Fleets of about 50 ships and 5 Capitals engaging several Bob systems and POS's at once, with a few 100-man roaming gangs patrolling the general area. While some may be engaged, most will not be, resulting in lag-free unopposed shooting of multiple towers. The real reason Bob is not yet dead is Lag, not the willpower or firepower of the opponents arrayed against them. That would have worked in the past before warp to zero(instas) and titan jump bridges in todays game mechanic, you can move fleets far to fast for that to be posible. The tactic was tried in the first stages of the war with d2 and sparta in fountain, IRON in feyt, and goonswarm killing of LV. what actually happened was that instead of being tied down one place bob would manage to titan jump the fleet aroung outnumbering all the battle fields, just switching pretty often, thats wry the blobs just get bigger, now you can actually move them whitout much hassle. As for being in the blob well ill rather engage 30 vs 30 then do the whole blob thing, but there are situations where it¦s not all that bad, and you get a fight but they seams to be less and less common as a war progresses and losses start to count. ----- I hereby represents myself and noone but myself, please dont make my corp or aliance responsible for my foolish ramblings
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.17 20:34:00 - [38] eletheureus whine thread III: redux ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 20:46:00 - [39] Edited by: Toffles on 17/09/2007 20:46:50 Originally by: Nahia Senne We have thrown fleets of up to 100 for long enough. You kept bringing fleets of about 400 to "match us". Nows the time to taste your own medicine. Your whines on these forums are evidence enough on how bitter it tastes. You're going to bring 1600 people against us !!!??? No, but seriously, you're wildly exaggerating. Here I thought with us not being high sp, experienced, elite, cream of the crop, disciplined etc. organization like bob you could handle a little numbers disadvantage. Guess not.
Scav Silver Amarr Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.17 21:04:00 - [40] Originally by: Wesley Baird Some of the best PVP in the game happens in empire (including low sec)...I have heard more than one Outbreak and MC member say "We are going to do some empire work for FUN"...wonder why that is?!?! Maybe because its fun... No caps.. ------------------------------------------------------------- "Scav est procul Porta!!" -=Pimary=- "Tonight you dine in....BKG?" -=Ashemi Darkhold=-
NO BRAKES GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 21:06:00 - [41] You guys act like Goons bringing more numbers of lower skilled players in cheap ships is something new. Anyway, the OP touches on some very good stuff but fails to realize one thing. POS ops are boring as hell, but a lot of us quite enjoy the fruits of these boring ops. EVE isn't counterstrike where you get instant gratification. Sometimes the fun is sitting on TS watching our fleet conga around a gate. Sometimes it's making 40 jumps and getting to laugh at our best FC because he ****** up and got us all killed. Sometimes it's waking up to find out TCF just headshotted a station system and could use some goon support. I hate the current state of the game. POS warefare is an incredibly bad grind that only exists because there is no direct easy fix. Despite all the problems, I still love the game itself and fighting with my alliance against a skilled opponent. If anyone is getting angry about slights on a forum messageboard, it's time to go outside. I think both sides realize this.
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.17 21:09:00 - [42] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 17/09/2007 21:12:05
Uuve Savisaalo Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.17 21:10:00 - [43] Edited by: Uuve Savisaalo on 17/09/2007 21:11:45 the point is that this offers some kind of an objective in the game besides fattening up your wallet. bob pilots come from a background of largely having been there and done that, with the only goal left before them is total conquest of, well, everything. Goons (and everybody else) continue the fight because defeat means losing 0.0 access, losing face and quite literally losing the game. you've to remember that in eve you can't respond to this sort of defeat by 'moving to another shard' or some similar idiocy - if you wish to play the game at all beyond empire space, you've to fight for the privilege. Obviously being a grunt on the field is dirty work from either side because, to no-one's surprise, POS warfare is not fun. the actual process as seen today is frustrating and mind-numbing in more ways than i can readily name. Still, you've to realise that bob aren't doing it for the 'fun gameplay' of the process. It could best be described by paraphrasing the pilot who said 'your tears are fueling our jump drives' - they're doing it for the pure grief potential of making a lot of people cry buhu and quit the game, which is a concept digitalcommunist once described as "something to mastrubate to". by this point its pretty much fighting to deny the other guy the joy of seeing you defeated. If the sort of thing is too difficult a concept for you to grasp, Illaria, perhaps you came to 0.0 much before your time.
Rhaegor Stormborn Pestilent Industries Amalgamated	Posted - 2007.09.17 21:14:00 - [44] Originally by: Jenna Shame Originally by: Tiggus Maximus Yep, sounds like POS warfare to me. Thankfully we have enough members willing to partake in it for the greater good to keep things moving, large amounts of members find their fun in small gang combat, production, mining, you name it. It's your choice as to how you spend your time ingame, if you didn't learn that while in goonfleet then you really didn't try very hard. If we were ever pushed back to SP and all of us POSwar hating members showed up to defend because we had to it would be quite the sight though. Thats perhaps the problem, when you are doing VERY boring things day after day in a GAME for some 'greater good' there is a design flaw. Its not like you are holding back the real barbarian hordes in some outpost so your family can live in peace, thats a 'greater good', no you are spending your free time being bored, so some others not as bored can do what they want to do in game in relative peace. The problem with alliance warfare and eve is you spend very little time playing the game, and then when you do get that epic fight, it lags so badly to remove all fun from it. And thus the reason so many people quit Eve after 6 months and why so many corporation and alliance leaders either step down after a short period of time or just stop logging back in altoegther one day. Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread
Butter Dog The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem	Posted - 2007.09.17 21:27:00 - [45] The OP is completely right, of course. The fun is really had higher up the food chain, in planning and ordering others around, working the 'bigger picture' - at least when it comes to intensive blob warfare. Being a grunt is zero fun. The problem is that many EvE pilots, much like the human beings who control said pilots, are much more comfortable following the herd and being told what to do. Most people in this world lack imagination and confidence, and this translates into the game. So many are perfectly happy to be told what to do, watch the occasional 1FPS (if lucky) blobfest, then be told 'well done' by someone actually having much more fun than them. They log off happy. But, you know, if you have the confidence and imagination, you can play a small part in the wider conflict... you don't have to blob, you don't have to do POS warfare. Instead you can think about who you would like to win, set some realistic objectives with like-minded others, and go and do it. It could be an Empire war, blocking a travel pipe, nano-gang raids... whatever. Its possible to particapte on a slightly removed level in the war, without getting bogged down in all the mind-numbing crap which goes with it. I feel pretty sorry for people who's online experience mirrors your own (and I am sure there are thousands), but it is possible to say 'fk it' and do your own thing. ----------
Tobruk Black Omega Security	Posted - 2007.09.17 22:10:00 - [46] so basically what you are saying is **** goons... i can relate to that ---------------------------------------------- Sig removed. Elmo Pug removed my sig because he hates me
Kasak Black The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.17 22:15:00 - [47] I'm common, but I aint no Grunt. I just like my Tesco Basic range. DONT JUDGE ME!
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.17 22:44:00 - [48] As i see it, the only real issue for the average pilot is how commonly the lag is being abused as a tool. You can gather from the OP, and i can confirm, that there is very little real action going on. Just mindless POS grind and "blue balling" as the OP called it. Only thing i can suggest to the OP is to switch the alliances instead of abandoning the 0.0 warfare. IAC and AAA get many fun fights, with much less lag involved and he will still get to fight the same foe. They also actually bring it on regular basis.
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.17 22:47:00 - [49] Originally by: Illaria But the Goonswarm has put a lot of effort lately to mess up with smaller regional powers of RISE and RMF. And this is something I was questioning. What do we defend, if an FC orders me to shoot RMF station services? Did I actively fought against the big BoB invasion there or did I just waste 2 hours of my time, achieving nothing, but causing the hassle for RMF to repair their cloning service in the following morning. Is the invasion of RISE because Sesfan is annoyed by them (although I admit, that this comment make me grin) a big fight in freeing the galaxy from BoB oppression or just simple conquering of a small alliance that lies on the way and has the misfortune of being the tenant to the wrong landlord. I am no mastermind but if RISE are left alone they will raid the Goonies and in the future McBoB can use RISE space as a base of operations and jump in point for capitals is they so choose to later on if the space is still available.
sakana North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.17 22:51:00 - [50] I hate to break it to you, but its the game mechanics that dictate warfare on this scale. The leaders want to have fun just as much as you, or they wouldnt be playing this game.
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.17 23:09:00 - [51] Nice post. Well thought out, well written and well articulated. As a pilot on the otherside of the fence i speak for myself alone when i say i am realy enjoying this war. Yeh the pos shoting is boreing and the lag is horrid but i love this game i love to fight and i enjoy doing what needs to be done and the tactics put into alot of these manovers are amaznig:) The feeling of constantly pushing being pushed back is almost chivalry like the front sheild wall pushes onto the enemys gaining ground loseing ground. The pressure put on by bot side is immense and abouve anything i have seen so far in eve. I have been in alot of te major conflicts in game and this is by far on a greater scale than any of them i just wish we could do it without the chidish smack. kudos to all sides and keep bringing it :D
Sobic Kurophsky Incognito Inc	Posted - 2007.09.17 23:10:00 - [52] Edited by: Sobic Kurophsky on 17/09/2007 23:11:00 Edited by: Sobic Kurophsky on 17/09/2007 23:10:20 I don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not. But a very key reason I've seen people drag themselves though the random boredom and lag hell is to be part of a Team and something far greater than themselves. Many people wouldnt clap or laugh if by themselves when watching something but be in a crowd of thousands we feed off each others excitement. Alliance warfare is the same way except it has the limited capabilities of... 1. Most peoples PC capabilities 2. Limited internet bandwidth to all corners of the world 3. Game mechanics Even with these three big hurtles in the way all the time, people will still fight for "King & Country" simply because people love to win as a team and when the team wins they win inside. Even if they did nothing more than tackle a few people and get podded. And as far as the commanders, sure for some its all about ego and having fame and control far beyond anything they'd have in RL(Well mabe, because we waste so much time on a game who knows what we all could accomplish) But for many I think its to help there fellow pilots have a fun gaming experience. I know when I FC and lead an alliance my hope is that I have my pilots walking away think "That was F'n awesome". My ten cents. Battle on. I'm in my own small corp neutral to everyone in EVE. I guess thats were a lot of old alliance fighters go... Or they quit EVE.
Dramaticus GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.17 23:17:00 - [53] Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Baaldor Lag is on both sides dude. We both have to deal with it. Jumping in to 00y I just watched my Mega melt slowly from invisible targets. I knew they where there...on the gate...but alas..no shooty shooty for me. It is what it is. Its equal Bull Shtzit on both sides. Someone claimed that BoB is surviving thanks to coalition induced lag. His point was that BoB would actually do better if there was no lag. We have thrown fleets of up to 100 for long enough. You kept bringing fleets of about 400 to "match us". Nows the time to taste your own medicine. Your whines on these forums are evidence enough on how bitter it tastes. Huh? Did you guys find another ex-LV corp to bring in or something.
0August0 Gallente Gooch Unlimited	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:02:00 - [54] Originally by: Hellaciouss brainwashed pets Dude I think that calling people "brainwashed" shows that you're taking this computer game waaaaay too seriously! . . . Regards, August
0August0 Gallente Gooch Unlimited	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:05:00 - [55] Originally by: Sobic Kurophsky I don't know if this has been mentioned yet or not. But a very key reason I've seen people drag themselves though the random boredom and lag hell is to be part of a Team and something far greater than themselves. Many people wouldnt clap or laugh if by themselves when watching something but be in a crowd of thousands we feed off each others excitement. Alliance warfare is the same way except it has the limited capabilities of... 1. Most peoples PC capabilities 2. Limited internet bandwidth to all corners of the world 3. Game mechanics Even with these three big hurtles in the way all the time, people will still fight for "King & Country" simply because people love to win as a team and when the team wins they win inside. Even if they did nothing more than tackle a few people and get podded. And as far as the commanders, sure for some its all about ego and having fame and control far beyond anything they'd have in RL(Well mabe, because we waste so much time on a game who knows what we all could accomplish) But for many I think its to help there fellow pilots have a fun gaming experience. I know when I FC and lead an alliance my hope is that I have my pilots walking away think "That was F'n awesome". My ten cents. Battle on. I'm in my own small corp neutral to everyone in EVE. I guess thats were a lot of old alliance fighters go... Or they quit EVE. You Sir are wise... . . . Regards, August
Musgrat Discordant Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:15:00 - [56] Yes I find the constant referrals to "brainwashed pets" to be kind of childish. BoB has friends just like any successful alliance does, and just because BoB tanks most of the forum dps doesn't mean that the others are insignificant pets ^^. Also, get a clue OP. You don't like alliance level warfare, that's all you needed to say. Some of what you say is true, such as pos warfare is boring. But if you think that the leaders of all the major powers are out for the enlargement of their epeens, you are sorely mistake. Though I will grant that with GS, that may be the case. Also wth to the dude saying the grunts are the ones that lack imagination??? Sometimes the grunts are on the stupid side yes, but in my experience, EvE kind of drives off all but patient and mature people. The guys that take orders and shoot poses do it because they are big enough to get over themselves and follow someone else's vision. A leader is only great if he has great followers. This is the case with most successful entities. And again, not to be overly smackful, Goons survive mostly because of their sheer numbers and drive, not really because they're great people haha. You seem to have picked the wrong alliance OP.
Nahia Senne Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:33:00 - [57] Originally by: Dramaticus Huh? Did you guys find another ex-LV corp to bring in or something. 5000 goons + 10 other coalition alliances and you couldn't muster enough to beat 300 strong alliance fleet in 0oy. bringing just 450 people is simply not enough
Toffles GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:39:00 - [58] Originally by: Nahia Senne Originally by: Dramaticus Huh? Did you guys find another ex-LV corp to bring in or something. 5000 goons + 10 other coalition alliances and you couldn't muster enough to beat 300 strong alliance fleet in 0oy. bringing just 450 people is simply not enough yea, cuz of bobbit lag tactics tbh.
Alexander Knott Ars ex Discordia GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:40:00 - [59] Originally by: Musgrat Yes I find the constant referrals to "brainwashed pets" to be kind of childish. ... And again, not to be overly smackful, Goons survive mostly because of their sheer numbers and drive, not really because they're great people haha. You seem to have picked the wrong alliance OP. So you complain about smacktalk and then turn around and smacktalk yourself in the same post? You could at least try to be subtle about it dude. ----- "I like to loot, especially going to the can of the battleship, sometimes there is a surprise inside, sometimes there is only carp..."
NiteOwl Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.18 00:50:00 - [60] Alliance warfare, hmmm, POSs, lag, smacking in local, camping for hours, running out of isk, being told to STFU or hearing some one tell everyone to STFU, not being able to do this, that, or the other. Listening to people tell you what they think and why, like you give a $h1t. Long drawn out speatches on TS about why this is done or why not to do something. Puting up with people that think they have the right to tell you how to play the game you pay for and all the other bs that comes with being in a major aliance. Why do we do it? Well, I can tell you why I do it. For the simple reason that people I know and trust from back in the day are doing it along side me. To stay friends with people I alrteady know.The longing to be apart of something that doesnt split up at the first sign of failure. Taking and holding space so when I need to use it, it will be there for me. EARNING the right to use space to get rich when I need to! To build something after the smoke clears. Learning more tricks from your peers maybe? I have learned, the more people you fly with, the more you learn. Especially if your peers are quality. Sure, every alliance or corp out there has a director that takes their vertual power a little too far, in a nut shell, doesnt know when to stfu. Alot of corps and alliances have skilled players that are really cool and no matter how much you may think you know, you can always learn something new from them if you keep an open mind. Some corps and alliance have both. Hmmm, take the good with the bad? Or turn tail and run? Running away is the easy way out and the wrong answer. People who join an alliance because they have good space, well, those are the people that run away. Those are the people that should never get recruited tbh. If you want to get rich off some space, you better share some blood with your corp to earn it!!! I am still new to BoB. After LV, its hard starting over. Not in a way of having to rebuild or anything, just getting to know so many new people again. Startiing as a grunt once more. Why BoB? lots of old homies are in BoB and we are fighting the people I want to fight. The people I feel deserve our attention. Also, unlike lots of other alliances in this game. I dont see BoB breaking up at the first sign of trouble. I feel BoB is going to be around for a very long time, nomatter what may happen. To me, thats huge! The one single most important thing IMO! It does take a thick skinned person to last in these conditions. Knowing deep down, your fighting the good fight for the right reasons takes a little pain away. The pay out? Once in a while an epic not so laggy fight breaks out. You get lots of kill mails, your heart is pounding the entire time, your gang is working together like a symphony! Its just awesome!!! That fight in FAT will keep me happy for another month or so. I might add, the people you fly with. Friends that you get to know and can have fun with. After a while, you learn what ships your homies are good in and knowing your homies by name and what they can do with out having to look really helps in any situation. A good team should stick together. If your in a tight unit like that, stay with it. Its hard to replace. Oh yea, and the most important pay out for me? Why I like alliances and taking space? ENDLESS AMOUNTS OF ORE!!! HOOOOOOOOT!!!

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