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Centauri
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Posted - 2004.02.15 07:31:00 -
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Edited by: Centauri on 15/02/2004 07:32:00
Today RUS corp decided to relocate my Apocalypse into 1,000,000 different star systems by attacking my lonesome self with seven tier 2 battleships. That lasted a thrilling ten seconds.
The result?
I now find myself, a displaced Amarr-ship pilot, in command of a Dominix-class battleship. Since I contribute alot to running our corporation, spending the ISK on a level 2 bs didn't seem appropriate. It was either a Dominix or an Armageddon therefore, and only 3 mid-slots scares the hell out of me - hence my choice.
I've seen almost no Dominix pilots out there these days, and perhaps not surprisingly, even fewer Scorpion and Raven pilots. While I know well that Caldari battle ships are pretty much trash now, I'm surprised I haven't seen any Dominixes out there - or it me? I was thinking that with the upcoming hybrid fix, there'd be more of them.
So..
#1 - Am I blind, or did they go out of style?
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#2 - I'm an Amarr pilot, I have no idea what to do with all these mid slots, or what the heck ammunition is 
Any general fitting ideas? I'd prefer 425's to blasters...blasters seem a little risky for me at the moment.
Looking forward to your thoughts
Centauri,
Former Fleet Admiral of Star Control |
Finestaut
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Posted - 2004.02.15 07:35:00 -
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#1 - Am I blind, or did they go out of style?
The dominix is certainly out of vogue now, the current flavors of the month seems to be megathrons and tempests. The dominix basically works as the megathron's little brother that the big kids don't want to play with.
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#2 - I'm an Amarr pilot, I have no idea what to do with all these mid slots, or what the heck ammunition is
Any general fitting ideas? I'd prefer 425's to blasters...blasters seem a little risky for me at the moment.
I've been ripped up by blasters on more than one occasion, so I wouldn't discount them, (they're brutal) but that's all the info I can really give, being a minmatar pilot who's seen much more of the receiving end of PVP than the giving.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.15 07:44:00 -
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They have no launcher hardpoints and they have only 6 high slots, which overall isn't that great.
They have too little grid for railguns (though the reduction on power grid for 425mm railgun and introduction of 350mm railgun will help)
Overall, dominix is a fairly balanced ship slot wise, it's signature radius is a bit high though and it can't really capitalize on it's huge drone bay atm because there's really no super huge drones that make a 4,500m3+ drone bay useful.
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dalman
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Posted - 2004.02.15 07:55:00 -
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Like a shield-tanked scorpion, the dominix is very hard to kill, but on the other hand lacks the offence to kill another battleship.
But since it will be the last ship to be targeted in fleet combat, there's really not much use of it.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
j0sephine
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Posted - 2004.02.15 07:59:00 -
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"Overall, dominix is a fairly balanced ship slot wise, it's signature radius is a bit high though and it can't really capitalize on it's huge drone bay atm because there's really no super huge drones that make a 4,500m3+ drone bay useful."
Mhmm, am thinking the large drone bay might be still useful in at least two ways... one could either keep mixed set of drones, and switch them much like missile types in the fight... plus, that's ~2 full backup waves in case your original drones get shot? o.o
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Pojo
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Posted - 2004.02.15 08:09:00 -
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When was it ever in style? I only seen some miners use it and rarely in any combat. No missile hard points is bad in so many ways. 
"Caldari capacity for good is only exceeded by our capacity for evil"
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.15 08:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Raynor on 15/02/2004 08:15:54
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"Overall, dominix is a fairly balanced ship slot wise, it's signature radius is a bit high though and it can't really capitalize on it's huge drone bay atm because there's really no super huge drones that make a 4,500m3+ drone bay useful."
Mhmm, am thinking the large drone bay might be still useful in at least two ways... one could either keep mixed set of drones, and switch them much like missile types in the fight... plus, that's ~2 full backup waves in case your original drones get shot? o.o
People don't shoot at drones, it's easier to just blow the crap out of the ship controlling them than to spend all day trying to target the drones themselves. There's no point in switching drones, all you need is Wasps and Ogres.
Drones are only good for short range too, they're useless in huge fleet fights.
A huge drone bay won't be useful until there are 800m3 drones that can operate further away from your ship. THEN the Dominix would have a very good bonus.
Pojo, Dominix was probably one of if not the first battleship to appear on the scene, probably because it's the most inexpensive blueprint and to manufacture.
When I was in PF-346/FD-MLJ, I saw lots and lots of Dominixes.
Blew a lot up too. >_>
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Centauri
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Posted - 2004.02.15 08:38:00 -
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Missile slots? To each their own I suppose.
In the time it takes to load a launcher, launch a missile, and actually have a missile hit a target without being shot down, I could get off two to three shots with my tachs, which hardly depleted my Apocs cap with my set up. I see missiles as little more than glorified fireworks with disproportionate damage/time ratio. Defenders are nice though
Still, good comments, I appreciate it. To my view, 5 425's would be a nice outfitting capable of good damage. Maybe that's just me...
Any other opinions, or load-out ideas?
Centauri,
Former Fleet Admiral of Star Control |
Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.15 08:41:00 -
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Missile slots? To each their own I suppose.
In the time it takes to load a launcher, launch a missile, and actually have a missile hit a target without being shot down, I could get off two to three shots with my tachs, which hardly depleted my Apocs cap with my set up. I see missiles as little more than glorified fireworks with disproportionate damage/time ratio. Defenders are nice though
Still, good comments, I appreciate it. To my view, 5 425's would be a nice outfitting capable of good damage. Maybe that's just me...
Any other opinions, or load-out ideas?
what is nice about launchers is that their fitting requirements are quite low (except maybe CPU especially on seige -- but a Heavy Missile Launcher works OK on a battleship).
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Karsten
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Posted - 2004.02.15 09:35:00 -
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Edited by: Karsten on 15/02/2004 09:53:43
Edited by: Karsten on 15/02/2004 09:37:09
i use the following fitting for my domi:
2 tachyons (Multi and Radio Cristal oon board)
4 heavy modal beams with gamma cristalls (earlier 4 heavy beams)
1 large shield booster
2 lif fueled booster
1 eutectic capacitor charge array
1 F-B10 Nominal capacitor regenerator
3 named overdrives
1 warp core stabiliser
1 F-89 Syncronised signal amplifier
1 Fourier transformation 1 tracking programm
1 extruded heat sink
dronebay full of ogre
I got a domi cos it was costeffective.
its clearly not a pvp fitting. it works well for missions and npc hunting (up to 0.1). before castor i used a variation of it for deep space mining (2 heavy beams replaced by 2 miner 2). I love to be independed of ammo supply
The ship is fast for a battle ship.
Karsten
Karsten
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.15 09:40:00 -
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Gunni of c0w had a very good Dominix setup, iirc. The ****** wouldn't die 
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Centauri
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Posted - 2004.02.15 09:53:00 -
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Edited by: Karsten on 15/02/2004 09:37:09
i use the following fitting for my domi:
2 tachyons (Multi and Radio Cristal oon board)
4 heavy modal beams with gamma cristalls (earlier 4 heavy beams)
1 large shield booster
2 lif fueled booster
1 eutectic capacitor charge array
1 F-B10 Nominal capacitor regenerator
3 named overdrives
1 warp core stabiliser
1 F-89 Syncronised signal amplifier
1 Fourier transformation 1 tracking programm
1 extruded heat sink
dronebay full of ogre
its clearly not a pvp fitting. it works well for missions and npc hunting (up to 0.1). before castor i used a variation of it for deep space mining (2 heavy beams replaced by 2 miner 2).
The ship is fast for a battle ship.
Karsten
Sounds interesting, but the guns seem awfully underpowered for a BS. I'd rather stick to large calibre turrets. But the mid/low slots give me a few ideas. Thanks
Centauri,
Former Fleet Admiral of Star Control |
Karsten
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Posted - 2004.02.15 09:58:00 -
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its clearly not optimised for peak damage output but to keep firing for a very long time. the orgins of the setup lay in pre castor deep space mining and hunting. i could fire the 2 tachyons with outcap problems and can it right now. The 4 medium lasers are used as secundary batteries if something comes to close.
i prefere long range combat.
pre castor fittinge was 1 named mwd and 1 large shield extender replacing the 2 named burner.
Karsten
Karsten
"All your ISK belong to the Viking Brewery" |
Luc Boye
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Posted - 2004.02.15 10:36:00 -
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Dominix was cool before megathron got fixed, since mega was so crappy that dom could kick its bottom. It had better CPU/grid stats for buck, and it had 2 med slots more. Mega got 1 more med slot and better stats, so dominix was kinda made obsolete.
Might be good 1st battleship for npc hunting for gallente, and its 5 med slots provide for good enough defence, but not for PvP if the other side knows what its doing.
For mining, I wouldn't bother, thorax mines almost just as good for fraction of the price, but who mines anyway 
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Maggot
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:00:00 -
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I am using a Dominix for most of my PvP atm. I think its great for solo encounters due to mid slot capabilities.
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Siddy
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:14:00 -
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Try a Typhoon
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zincol
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:16:00 -
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Just refine the giant slug looking thing..
w00t!
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fras
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:19:00 -
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I liked my dominix, I have a mega now but wouldn't be too bothered if I had to go back.
Compared to a mega the extra 3000 grid makes a big difference firepower wise. You either need very good skills or gimp out on other things to fit 5x425's (it sounds like you have the skills though).
I've no doubt that long range it's got to be not far off bottom of the pile as far as BS damage output goes, but then again, like you said the upcoming 425 grid fix might change things a little.
I liked the fact that it was rare to see another dom, and I found it a better npc ship than a mega because of the mid slots. I know alot of ppl find it ugly too but I liked it's Buffalo style looks and the textures are still better than a mega
Mid slots I used to have different setups depending on what I was doing.
Shield Booster, Sheild boost amp, 2x EM hardner, Thermal Hardner
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MWD, Shield booster, EM hardner, Thermal hardner, Sensor booster.
depends how much travelling u do and what u get up to really.
I also wouldn't consider putting lasers on one. 425's all the way baby 
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Shin Taka
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Posted - 2004.02.15 11:27:00 -
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Thing that i liked about my Dominix was that i could sheild and armour tank it. At the same time :p.
You can make them nearly invincible (3 corp BSs pounding at me, without getting anywhere for about 15minutes) but the damage output sucks. Ion Blasters might work ok, or using the 300mm rails when they appear, but the best i got on was 4x425mm and a coupla heavy beam lasers.
A theoretical setup that might be good, is 4xIon blasters, and a coupla the Heavy Nosferatus when they hit tranq, with the MWD, web and warp, and some sheild/cap mods. Armour tank it.
Dominix will be a lot more common in fleets i reckon when theres repair drones :p
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Karsten
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Posted - 2004.02.15 12:01:00 -
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yes, for the moment the drone hanger is too large but as soon as the promissed new drones will come the domi will show its true power. She is the true supercarrier.
About the typhoon - i will test it. i have the skill in less then 4 days and the ship is allready build.
But i will never recycle my 1st battleship. She is not perfect but she was and continues to be a dammed good ship.
Karsten
Karsten
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.15 13:04:00 -
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the dominix is a great ship! u just need to know how-to fitt it!!!1
"We brake for nobody"
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Slinky Redfoot
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Posted - 2004.02.15 16:33:00 -
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The Dominix is a swiss army knife, with the right skills you can even make an EW boat out of it.. a great ship if you fly solo allot. 
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Asharee Intrefer
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Posted - 2004.02.15 17:00:00 -
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I've been thinking about building me one if mission npcs get to much even with clever tactics. But I'm still waiting for that to happen, since no variety of mission spawn has been able to scratch my armor more than once.
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