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Vicarrah
Minmatar Hand Of The Tahiri Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.09.21 18:14:00 -
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It's good to see old friends back.
Ignore the rabble U'K. Always follow your guiding star.
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.21 18:21:00 -
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Please, Svetlana, your rather febrile imaginings are running away with you.
Electus Matari at no point invited help from Veto or The Guristas Associates - they are in the area because you naievely announced where you were going to be and when.
As for Naqam, you can decry them for their loyalties if you wish, but I judge them by their souls and their actions.
I see people willingly approach them for recruitment, and I see those same souls, those same personalities, come out again, augmented by machines but not utterly devoured by them.
I see them fighting the Angel Cartel which bedevils our space with acts of thievery and abduction, snatching slaves with the same frequency as the Amarr, with the same brutal and degrading consequence. I see Naqam fighting to keep low sec space open, so any who wish to can oppose the Cartel alongside them.
Should the Nation choose the Naqam model of synthesis, not antithesis, between man and machine as its future path... well, the prospect holds a great hope for all sentience.
As for the Ushra'Khan, you can blame whoever employed KIA alliance against our allies in Namtz'aar K'in for their involvement. Even the prospect of putting down the Amarr's favourite pets pales beside the need to defend the Free Trade Zone we all worked so hard to create in Molden Heath.
But don't worry, Svety, we haven't forgotten you. When the dust clears, I want some quality alone time with CAIN and a case of Barrage M.
-Eva-
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.21 18:32:00 -
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We come for our people!
-- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today! |

Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 19:11:00 -
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Originally by: Evanda Char
As for the Ushra'Khan, you can blame whoever employed KIA alliance against our allies in Namtz'aar K'in for their involvement. Even the prospect of putting down the Amarr's favourite pets pales beside the need to defend the Free Trade Zone we all worked so hard to create in Molden Heath.
And do you think that your friends in Veto and The Black Rabbits share your vision of a free trade zone?
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Disteeler
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.21 19:22:00 -
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We're coming!
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Naphtalia
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.21 20:05:00 -
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Edited by: Naphtalia on 21/09/2007 20:06:14
Originally by: Rodj Blake
And do you think that your friends in Veto and The Black Rabbits share your vision of a free trade zone?
You're concern for free trade in the republic is touching.
We only shoot people that will shoot us, and declare so by not wanting standings, or people that are hostile to the Republic.
We appreciate the opportunity to reside in the republic to furhter our cause of destroying CAIN and finish what we started before CAIN departed from Mito.
Regards, Naph - CEO
((edit: spelling))
www.guristas.com
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.21 20:05:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake And do you think that your friends in Veto and The Black Rabbits share your vision of a free trade zone?
Did Knights of Chaos support your vision of an omnipotent imperium when they were operating in the Bleak Lands?
-Eva-
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Evanda Char
Originally by: Rodj Blake And do you think that your friends in Veto and The Black Rabbits share your vision of a free trade zone?
Did Knights of Chaos support your vision of an omnipotent imperium when they were operating in the Bleak Lands?
No, that's one of the reasons why Knights of Chaos are currently considered KOS by us.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.09.21 20:33:00 -
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Anyone believes the word of Verone or Napthalia, when they say they were not brought to Minmatar space by Electus Matari, needs only to look at the facts of the matter. Fact: The Reserve has been operating in the same region of Caldari space for the last four months. If Veto and the Black Rabbits were merely following the Reserve in an attempt to strike at us, why did not they declare war on us months ago? Fact: Electus Matari is actively cooperating with the Black Rabbits, Veto, and Naqam -- exchanging intelligence and using pirate blockades of low security system gates in order to shelter their operations from KIA and CAIN operations, in addition to outright combined combat operations. Fact: Electus Matari is doing nothing to stop these pirate groups from preying on neutral traffic in the area.
The only reason these pirates are trying to claim their operations are completely unrelated to presence of the Reserve in Minmatar space is to try to preserve some sort of respectability for Electus Matari, if only because they want to be able to use them as a front for money laundering or other operations where they need a "legitimate" face. Even if Electus Matari didn't beg for the help of these pirates, they have welcomed them with open arms, allowing them to pillage legitimate merchant traffic with impunity simply to save their own hides. And even if it were true that Veto and the Black Rabbits were just trying to take advantage of the distraction Electus Matari provides to attack the Reserve, is that any more honorable on the part of Electus Matari? Is this what the Minmatar people stand for? Will the Republic live as patsies and victims for the rest of its short existence then? Is that better than living as a slave?
Ushra'Khan already sold their souls months ago, when they begged for the aid of the same pirates that held their outpost siege only a short time before, just to preserve their tenuous grip on a region they had allowed to become infested with pirates and thieves through lack of vigilance. Now Electus Matari is doing the same, and trying to act innocent when they are called on their betrayal, and telling us we should believe the very people who are preying on those they have sworn to protect. How can they be trusted?
As far as Verone's indignant rants about the crimes committed by the Reserve, a man loses the ability to cry foul when he revels in the blood spilled each time his guns rip apart the hull of a merchant freighter, when he laughs at the misfortune of others, when he is so dissociated from his own acts that he can sleep soundly despite the wails of the thousands -- perhaps millions of people who have died at his hands. This is the difference between what he does and what a legitimate paramilitary force does on a daily basis. The actions of those of in the Reserve -- and those in the Acheron Federation, or the Aegis Militia, or, I hope, Namtz'aar k'in, are done to preserve the lives of the men and women we protect, and we regret every ounce of blood we must spill to do it. We do not live for war, we live to prevent war and to keep the peace, and we know the heavy price paid by everyone who does what we do.
Verone has no regrets about anything he has done. Those of us on the right side of the law know there is a price for everything, whether it was an act for the better or for the worse in the long run, and that price will be paid someday, somehow. To think otherwise is arrogance and folly. It is what seperates men from monsters. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.09.21 20:43:00 -
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You go get them boys.
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.21 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Fact: Electus Matari is actively cooperating with the Black Rabbits, Veto, and Naqam.
Oh really? We are?
We're actively cooperating with Naqam. I'd really like to see the evidence you have for us working with TAS and Veto Corp, seeing as this is news to me.
-Eva-
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Verone on 21/09/2007 21:35:48
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet If Veto and the Black Rabbits were merely following the Reserve in an attempt to strike at us, why did not they declare war on us months ago?
Up until recently Veto Corp have been in pursuit of our own goals inside Federation and State borders, securing planetside real estate to open facilities we use for business.
We remain enemies of the State, however felt no need to follow CAIN's with a close eye until agressive action more recently regarding allies of ours, including The Black Rabbits who moved to the area in anticipation of CAIN dropping the war on EM.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Fact: Electus Matari is doing nothing to stop these pirate groups from preying on neutral traffic in the area.
Electus Matari need do nothing to stop our activities in the area. Our activities are actively patrolling for CAIN, nothing more at present. My roster have been given engagement principles for the area that both myself and EM are happy with.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet The only reason these pirates are trying to claim their operations are completely unrelated to presence of the Reserve in Minmatar space is to try to preserve some sort of respectability for Electus Matari.
I have neither denied or refused to confirm this fact. Our presence, if any, in Republic space is DIRECTLY linked to the aggressive appearence of State loyalists.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Even if Electus Matari didn't beg for the help of these pirates, they have welcomed them with open arms.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. I beleive CAIN operate on the same principle, hence your sympathy for the Matari people here, yet your collaboration for so long with the Amarr bloc during their war with the freecaptains as they went about their slaver ways, as part of Aegis Militia, a PRO SLAVER entity no less.
Ironic, no? Perhaps CAIN should review their foreign policy in order not to contradict themselves so blatently in the future.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet As far as Verone's indignant rants about the crimes committed by the Reserve, a man loses the ability to cry foul when he revels in the blood spilled each time his guns rip apart the hull of a merchant freighter, when he laughs at the misfortune of others, when he is so dissociated from his own acts that he can sleep soundly despite the wails of the thousands -- perhaps millions of people who have died at his hands.
I kill people who have signed a release and who accept the fact that they may lose their lives working as crewmen aboard a capsuleer's vessel. I kill people who accept the dangers of lawless space as a work hazard, not people (no less citizens of my own State) who board a civilian vessel in CONCORD patrolled space to attend a peaceful demonstration.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet This is the difference between what he does and what a legitimate paramilitary force does on a daily basis.
No, the difference is that I don't claim to be a protector and Loyalist of the State and then let halfwit "officers" on my roster punch holes in a freighter full of my own citizens for no justfiable reason. I make my position with regards to hostility very clear, if people choose to ignore that, it is their problem.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet we regret every ounce of blood we must spill to do it.
I'm glad you regret destroying the lives of over 65,000 Caldari families. You must sleep well at night knowing that so many families of the State you attempt to protect despise your incompetence.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet We do not live for war, we live to prevent war and to keep the peace
I'm sure your roster were thinking this when they decimated a freighter full of your own citizens.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Verone has no regrets about anything he has done.
Correct.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet It is what seperates men from monsters.
Monster? Pot, Kettle, anyone?
>>> TRIBUTE TO A FALLEN WINGMAN <<<
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Becq Starforged
Minmatar Ship Construction Services Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:33:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Drivel, mindless fanaticism, propaganda, etc.
It's always a little sad when an lapdog of the Amarr tries to flail their way into respectability by attempting to stain the reputation of an organization long known to stand between the Matari people and our enemies. You might find your words more credible were you not directly responsible for the murder of a man who might have otherwise been responsible for saving the lives of billions of Matari people. Or if you didn't display such undying support to those who commit daily atrocities upon our brothers and sisters. Or, more simply, if you weren't invading Matari space in what is apparently (were I to put any belief in your words) an attempt to "prevent war and keep the peace".
-- Becq Starforged proprietor of Starforge Industries, a subsidiary of Minmatar Ship Construction Services
At Starforge Industries, the world of tomorrow is being blown apart today! |

Svetlana Scarlet
Caldari Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Evanda Char We're actively cooperating with Naqam. I'd really like to see the evidence you have for us working with TAS and Veto Corp, seeing as this is news to me.
You have ceased to be someone that anyone can take seriously, CDR Char. You deal with one set of enslavers and butchers, and yet tell us that we should trust you when you say you aren't deal with the rest? How much money in "investments" have you taken from Veto and the Black Rabbits? How many ships and modules have you sold them to continue their campaigns of terror? How many innocent Minmatar men and women have died to the guns of pirates supplied by their own countrymen, Ms. Char? Your countrymen may find us despicable for what we do -- but at least we are not stabbing our own in the back and smiling innocently as they fall to the ground.
Do not insult our intelligence. Why do you think no third party has tried to defend your actions? Where are your friends in the Federation now? Even they are not stupid enough to try to defend consorting with cutthroats and thieves. As much as they may disagree with our reasons for war, I suspect they regard your tactics with disgust and bile, even if they cannot admit it publicly. I will not ask them to do so; I am well aware of the diplomatic realities of the situation. But for you to continue on like this and feign innocence in the face of reality is laughable. You insult those of us reading your messages and you debase yourself. For your own dignity, say no more. Either turn from the path you have taken or fall silently into the pit you have dug for yourself. -- CAPT Svetlana Scarlet CAIN Chief of Diplomatic Staff
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Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo *Opens a bottle of spiced wine*
Good news for some.
Don't worry, little one... we'll babysit you for them.
Love and Ganking, Jonny D.
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Naphtalia
Caldari The Black Rabbits The Gurlstas Associates
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet More Propaganda, and attempts to define Causa Bella
Dear Svetlana, I find your concern for the safety of the Matari people very comforting. It truly warms my heart, were it not said from the helm of a vessel set out to destroy those same Matari vessels.
The attempt to spread fear, uncertainty and doubt, reflects on your ability to deal with this situation, the situation of overwhelming odds and imminent defeat.
If you were so concerned with the safety of State citizens you should have attempted to seize our operations. Your apparent and historical lack of focus there tells me that these concerns are mere fabrications of sincerity from unfounded debts, to be used as a propaganda war.
The idea that CAIN will be able to influence Matari foreign policy while at war by this drivel is rather ridiculous as well.
As a final note: Well said Ethan, I love you.
www.guristas.com
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Evanda Char
Minmatar Re-Awakened Technologies Inc Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet You have ceased to be someone that anyone can take seriously, CDR Char. You deal with one set of enslavers and butchers, and yet tell us that we should trust you when you say you aren't deal with the rest?
Produce your evidence, murderess.
I have never seen any sign of Naqam enslaving anyone.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet How much money in "investments" have you taken from Veto and the Black Rabbits? How many ships and modules have you sold them to continue their campaigns of terror? How many innocent Minmatar men and women have died to the guns of pirates supplied by their own countrymen, Ms. Char? Your countrymen may find us despicable for what we do -- but at least we are not stabbing our own in the back and smiling innocently as they fall to the ground.
We produce goods and sell them on the open market in highsec and lowsec space. Show me someone that doesn't. I've even had ammunition bought from me fired by dreadnoughts at my own stations. I retail goods in Amarr space, as well, to undercut their loyalists' friendly producers and channel the profits into projects for the benefit of the Matari people. I have no compunction at all about taking 100% profit or more from my enemies - I will whittle down their resources by any means available to me. Heck, I hate to tell you this, but CAIN are buying stuff from us! Thanks for the money, by the way.
No Gurista corporations of any sort currently hold shares or have made any investments in my organization. Ask one of our actual shareholders if you want to check.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Do not insult our intelligence.
I couldn't possibly insult your intelligence.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Why do you think no third party has tried to defend your actions?
*cough* I think you're seeing quite a lot of third parties defending our actions.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Where are your friends in the Federation now? Even they are not stupid enough to try to defend consorting with cutthroats and thieves.
Seeing as we haven't asked them for help, or anyone else, I imagine they're busy working for the Federation.
Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet As much as they may disagree with our reasons for war, I suspect they regard your tactics with disgust and bile, even if they cannot admit it publicly. I will not ask them to do so; I am well aware of the diplomatic realities of the situation. But for you to continue on like this and feign innocence in the face of reality is laughable. You insult those of us reading your messages and you debase yourself. For your own dignity, say no more. Either turn from the path you have taken or fall silently into the pit you have dug for yourself.
At this point, I'm going to lose my patience with you and take offence. And I've been very patient. You're going to burn in your wreck, you murdering, hypocritical, lying little pseudo-slave.
-Eva-
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Sarchez
Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:43:00 -
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Originally by: KIAEddZ Bring your wives and children, when I am finished with your carcasses I will happily treat with the same respect...
Eddz, you wouldn't be able to handle a matari woman if she was drugged and tied down. Nurse Tassi isn't finished with your carcass as of yet.
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Vinchu
Minmatar Rogues
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:59:00 -
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My dear Svetlana, so long have it been since our last....discussion. How long it's been since we pointed out your true nature. An amarr lapdog, and nothing else. Thank you for putting forth the truth by your own statements and actions - There might have been a few fools leftover in the State Academy, who actually believed your propaganda about defending the State.
Unlike you, Matari's don't need masters to yank our chains or to defend our actions.
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Sarchez
Minmatar Infinitus Odium The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:05:00 -
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Svetlana, are you complaining about pirate actions in matar space, when caldari space is widely known as pirate heaven ? Isn't that the space you claim to defend ?
Maybe the socalled pirates in Matar space don't work together with EM/NMTZ/5TH. Maybe they just don't like your hollow announcements and claims of rightounes, when clearly you have none ?
KIA is the tip of your sword. Once the tip is gone, all you have left is the usual blunt sword.
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Sgt Jinxed
Obsidian Inc. KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sarchez
Eddz, you wouldn't be able to handle a matari woman if she was drugged and tied down.
Fact.
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Telemicus Thrace
Thrace Inc Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:41:00 -
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Hahaha, a warrior of the Ushra'Khan speaks and the slavers all bark on cue like startled dogs. It is good to know some things will never change.
Electus Matari, our politics difer and we have had disagreements in the past. Those still stand. We are still Matari, that we have in common. That is all that is needed for me to lend my troops and weaponry to this fight.
I hear the war drums of the tribes and I answer the call.
Matari, prepare for glory
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redialer
Minmatar The African Contingency Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.22 00:07:00 -
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I would prefere an info blackout! pls
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redialer
Minmatar The African Contingency Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2007.09.22 00:22:00 -
[54]
Welcome to the cause my brothers and sisters :)
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IzzyChan
Naqam
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Posted - 2007.09.22 01:04:00 -
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Originally by: Svetlana Scarlet Stuff
You're just jealous. 
You spend waaaaaaaay too much time on the IGS, imagine all the time you just wasted talking the talk instead of walking the walk! I'm seriously gonna have to send you a time management program for your bithday. --------------------
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Conlin
Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.22 07:05:00 -
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Ushru'Khan make a formal announcement !! Amarr Lapdogs rush forth to justify their existence , ..... interesting .
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Aodha Khan
Minmatar The Paratwa Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.09.22 09:16:00 -
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Good to fly again with old friends.
May our enemies ships burn in honour of your return.
Paratwa Recruitment |

Irias Salo
Caldari The Star Wolves Aunni Ti Tsuun Consortium
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Posted - 2007.09.22 10:00:00 -
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Best of luck to CAIN.
Originally by: Ginger. There is no roleplay, there is only EVE
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Marahk T'or
Hand Of Muritor
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Posted - 2007.09.22 10:14:00 -
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Strike hard and fly fearless, Ushra'Khan.
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When a government fails her peoples, a new Republic must arise.
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Paddington
Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.22 15:32:00 -
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This will be fun.
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