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Heretycs Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:03:00 - [1] FSW-3C -- four days ago, BoB forces entered Providence through Catch with the goal of removing the cynosural system jammer located in FSW-3C. With the destruction of the jammer, BoB forces jumped in capital ships, and placed two POSs into reinforced. On Friday the 21st, forces from both sides began forming for the upcoming battle. The combined Providence forces of CVA, PXF, LFA, SYLPH, and others engaged BoB forces as they entered the system from Catch, causing both sides losses. Fighting would continue on and off for the rest of the night at the second of the two POSs that had been put into reinforced, where the jammer was located (the first was repped up before fighting commenced). By the end of the battle, over 325 ships had been destroyed in the system, 143 pod kills, and "the little control tower that could" had racked up over 60 kills. Props to both sides of the fight, it seems like we all had a lot of fun. o7
Ramlir 0.0 Corp	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:09:00 - [2] Excellent tactical move by BoB. Take out the roleplayers and the world is your oyster
Felton Fundenberger Caldari Rosa Alba Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:17:00 - [3] This was trully a great fight. Thanks all. Big thanks to smack free local on both sides.
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:18:00 - [4] We took out over 70+ enemy ships in one fleet battle alone, and there were two (or three, depending on how you're counting) major fleet battles. We held the field after both, and looted so much that we literally ran out of room. At the end of the day, your tower is a truly-frightening beast, and we simply didn't have the numbers to take it down. Kudos to your POS gunners, who did yeoman's work, and to whoever set up that POS. That said, if losing 60 ships to your POS means that we get to kill another 100+ of yours in multiple balls-to-the-wall, heavily-outnumbered fleet battles, I frankly think we should attack FSW again tomorrow. And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements. Congratulations on the successful defense of your system, and thanks for the fights. It was a blast. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:18:00 - [5] mad props to the control tower ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:27:00 - [6] Grats Paxton/CVA/others on defending your objective.
Xrensa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:32:00 - [7] Originally by: Pilk We took out over 70+ enemy ships in one fleet battle alone, and there were two (or three, depending on how you're counting) major fleet battles. We held the field after both, and looted so much that we literally ran out of room. At the end of the day, your tower is a truly-frightening beast, and we simply didn't have the numbers to take it down. Kudos to your POS gunners, who did yeoman's work, and to whoever set up that POS. That said, if losing 60 ships to your POS means that we get to kill another 100+ of yours in multiple balls-to-the-wall, heavily-outnumbered fleet battles, I frankly think we should attack FSW again tomorrow. And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements. Congratulations on the successful defense of your system, and thanks for the fights. It was a blast. --P ...so you'd rather fail your objectives and get some easy kills than, you know... win? No wonder you're on bob's side!
BlueV2 Four Rings D-L	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:38:00 - [8] Originally by: Xrensa Originally by: Pilk We took out over 70+ enemy ships in one fleet battle alone, and there were two (or three, depending on how you're counting) major fleet battles. We held the field after both, and looted so much that we literally ran out of room. At the end of the day, your tower is a truly-frightening beast, and we simply didn't have the numbers to take it down. Kudos to your POS gunners, who did yeoman's work, and to whoever set up that POS. That said, if losing 60 ships to your POS means that we get to kill another 100+ of yours in multiple balls-to-the-wall, heavily-outnumbered fleet battles, I frankly think we should attack FSW again tomorrow. And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements. Congratulations on the successful defense of your system, and thanks for the fights. It was a blast. --P ...so you'd rather fail your objectives and get some easy kills than, you know... win? No wonder you're on bob's side! So mc/fix/bob/..... lost the war?
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:39:00 - [9] Originally by: Xrensa Originally by: Pilk We took out over 70+ enemy ships in one fleet battle alone, and there were two (or three, depending on how you're counting) major fleet battles. We held the field after both, and looted so much that we literally ran out of room. At the end of the day, your tower is a truly-frightening beast, and we simply didn't have the numbers to take it down. Kudos to your POS gunners, who did yeoman's work, and to whoever set up that POS. That said, if losing 60 ships to your POS means that we get to kill another 100+ of yours in multiple balls-to-the-wall, heavily-outnumbered fleet battles, I frankly think we should attack FSW again tomorrow. And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements. Congratulations on the successful defense of your system, and thanks for the fights. It was a blast. --P ...so you'd rather fail your objectives and get some easy kills than, you know... win? No wonder you're on bob's side! Am I willing to allow an unimportant enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Erotic Irony 0bsession	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:42:00 - [10] Originally by: Pilk Am I willing to allow an unimportant enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P P.S. Originally by: Pilk yet we still managed to carry the day ___ Eve Players are not very smart. Support Killmail Overhaul
Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:48:00 - [11] I've said it before and I'll say it again... Whatever side fields Milojko wins (at least in terms of fun)...Good work Paxton. Well played both sides it seems, and thanks to BoB for not nicking off with my abandoned Megathron, but waiting for me to re-board it so I could collect my insurance. Very noble of you. - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.22 01:51:00 - [12] Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Pilk Am I willing to allow an unimportant enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P P.S. Originally by: Pilk yet we still managed to carry the day Out of context, sir. The full quote is, "yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements." I.e., we won the fleet battles, in one case with not a single loss, even though--I readily admit--we didn't accomplish our primary objective in the system. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Xrensa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:17:00 - [13] Edited by: Xrensa on 22/09/2007 02:17:24 Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Pilk Am I willing to allow an unimportant enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P P.S. Originally by: Pilk yet we still managed to carry the day Out of context, sir. The full quote is, "yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements." I.e., we won the fleet battles, in one case with not a single loss, even though--I readily admit--we didn't accomplish our primary objective in the system. --P I hear bob won fleet battles in xgh, 9-9, 66, d2ez, r97, p8, and they'll probably win a fleet battle in k-9 pretty soon.
Martin VanBuren GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Xrensa Edited by: Xrensa on 22/09/2007 02:17:24 Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Pilk Am I willing to allow an unimportant enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P P.S. Originally by: Pilk yet we still managed to carry the day Out of context, sir. The full quote is, "yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements." I.e., we won the fleet battles, in one case with not a single loss, even though--I readily admit--we didn't accomplish our primary objective in the system. --P I hear bob won fleet battles in xgh, 9-9, 66, d2ez, r97, p8, and they'll probably win a fleet battle in k-9 pretty soon. Perhaps you hadn't heard, but ever since Impass AXE doesn't care about POS warfare at all so your barbs cannot touch them goonies
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:26:00 - [15] Originally by: Xrensa Edited by: Xrensa on 22/09/2007 02:17:24 Originally by: Pilk Originally by: Erotic Irony Originally by: Pilk Am I willing to allow an unimportant enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P P.S. Originally by: Pilk yet we still managed to carry the day Out of context, sir. The full quote is, "yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements." I.e., we won the fleet battles, in one case with not a single loss, even though--I readily admit--we didn't accomplish our primary objective in the system. --P I hear bob won fleet battles in xgh, 9-9, 66, d2ez, r97, p8, and they'll probably win a fleet battle in k-9 pretty soon. You appear to have missed the part where I mentioned that this is an unimportant, non-station system that's not in our primary area of operation right now. If IAC retakes 25S, or defends FAT- over the next few weeks, I'll feel like we might not still have momentum behind us. As it stands, we "fell back" to dock in a station that was IAC's as of a week or so ago. I think that pretty much says it all. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Gneeznow Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:29:00 - [16] Xrensa is my favorite goon coz he once squirted remote armour and cap all over me in northern feythabolis, it was awesome and very intimate.
Kara Rhane Gallente Rhane's Research and Development Labs.	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:29:00 - [17] The op did a pretty good job with a general battle report, anyone able to give a more detailed one for those of us in the cheap seats? This sorta stuff is pretty cool and we love hearing a non-biased battle report that lets us know how the 0.0 stuff happens. Just a request, thank you to anyone who can give some details to this. -Kara ***** Rhane's Research and Development LabsÖ Click to search our Ammo's, Missiles, and Drone BPO sets.
Minigin Ganja Labs	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:31:00 - [18] pilk you are stupid. you dont need to defend every little thing about your alliance. your post here came across as nothing more than damage control pr work. get your flame on fellas. MINIGIN! Occasionally posting in "limegreen"
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.22 02:37:00 - [19] Originally by: Minigin pilk you are stupid. you dont need to defend every little thing about your alliance. your post here came across as nothing more than damage control pr work. get your flame on fellas. Hmm, I went back and found one spot where I appeared to be smacking, and updated the post accordingly. It was certainly not my intention to smack anyone or to "spin" anything, I just felt that the OP presented a view that was not indicative of the true flow of the battle as I saw it. I believe I have said, early and often, that we failed at our primary goal of taking down the cynosural jammer. I nonetheless feel, however, that the fight was a good one, and that we walked away victors in a different sense than the one for which we were aiming when the order came to form up a gang. If, however, some portion of my responses can be misinterpreted as smack, please point to where I have made such a mistake, and I will correct it. --P Kosh: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.
Yulric DROW Org Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2007.09.22 03:23:00 - [20] Best thing about this combat ---- Little to no smack -- both sides seemed to know what needed to be done - and did it -- then respect after with the 'GF' -- then on to next stage of the engagement. Salute to both sides involved/ !
Yaay Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 03:35:00 - [21] Originally by: Pnuka Grats Paxton/CVA/others on defending your objective. Actually, Paxton and friends failed miserably, the control tower just proved how out of balance POS warfare is becoming... Something even goons complain about on here.
Pnuka Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 03:42:00 - [22] Originally by: Yaay Originally by: Pnuka Grats Paxton/CVA/others on defending your objective. Actually, Paxton and friends failed miserably, the control tower just proved how out of balance POS warfare is becoming... Something even goons complain about on here. I don't remember asking you a god damn thing.
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2007.09.22 03:50:00 - [23] Yet again Yaay, you are ******* AWFUL at this. 'Yeah so CVA and friends lost, except they didn't because they used imba tower defense strat.' I'm not arguing that said towers aren't imba, I'm arguing that you are, quite obviously, an utter moron.
Garreck Amarr Border Defense Consortium Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.22 03:55:00 - [24] Originally by: Yaay Actually, Paxton and friends failed miserably, the control tower just proved how out of balance POS warfare is becoming... Something even goons complain about on here. Don't lower yourself to the flaming. If anything, Paxton proved that properly manned and managed POS guns and a fighting spirit are 100% more effective at combatting Alliance forces than hardener spam. It was a good fight. Alliance got their superior kill ratio, Paxton kept the jammer alive and refuelled/repped their POS. Why can't it be left at that? It's all a drop in the bucket compared to what's been in this grand war and what will be.
snerdly snerd LTD	Posted - 2007.09.22 03:58:00 - [25] Lower himself? Sir, he started it. Though there are smack alts, such as me, in this thread, he was not replying to a smacky statement. Rather, he was replying to a perfectly reasonable statement in a smacky, and frankly idiotic and whiny, fashion.
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:08:00 - [26] Edited by: Hellaciouss on 22/09/2007 04:10:07 Originally by: Yaay Waaaa We can no longer steamroll well set up poses without losing a single ship waaaaa well set up poses can kill our uber officer tanked dreads waaaa Bahaha. Archived for later use. It seems the only time something is imbalanced and overpowered is when BoB has trouble dealing with it.
Nobuo213	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:12:00 - [27] Paxton ftw.
Nick Curso Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:14:00 - [28] Originally by: Hellaciouss Edited by: Hellaciouss on 22/09/2007 04:10:07 Originally by: Yaay Waaaa We can no longer steamroll well set up poses without losing a single ship waaaaa well set up poses can kill our uber officer tanked dreads waaaa Bahaha. Archived for later use. It seems the only time something is imbalanced and overpowered is when BoB has trouble dealing with it. omfg roflmao the ironoy is so bad it hurts. I sometimes wonder if these kinda ppl are the type that go on x-factor and are absolutly terrible but are adament there better than madonna lmao. Sorry to smack in ure well written thread. Im so ****ed i missed the scrap sounds like great fun on both sides gj pax on a well organised defende of ure pos :)
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:22:00 - [29] Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Hellaciouss Edited by: Hellaciouss on 22/09/2007 04:10:07 Originally by: Yaay Waaaa We can no longer steamroll well set up poses without losing a single ship waaaaa well set up poses can kill our uber officer tanked dreads waaaa Bahaha. Archived for later use. It seems the only time something is imbalanced and overpowered is when BoB has trouble dealing with it. omfg roflmao the ironoy is so bad it hurts. I sometimes wonder if these kinda ppl are the type that go on x-factor and are absolutly terrible but are adament there better than madonna lmao. Sorry to smack in ure well written thread. Im so ****ed i missed the scrap sounds like great fun on both sides gj pax on a well organised defende of ure pos :) The sad thing is I've never once said they were overpowered. I think they need more HP now a`days to be quite @#$%ing honest, and I repair the things perrty much every day! But that's just me. I don't honestly mind repping when I know the things I've repped will cause McBoB ships to explode later. Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl
Fortuk Monmouth Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:24:00 - [30] Originally by: Pilk We took out over 70+ enemy ships in one fleet battle alone, and there were two (or three, depending on how you're counting) major fleet battles. We held the field after both, and looted so much that we literally ran out of room. At the end of the day, your tower is a truly-frightening beast, and we simply didn't have the numbers to take it down. Kudos to your POS gunners, who did yeoman's work, and to whoever set up that POS. That said, if losing 60 ships to your POS means that we get to kill another 100+ of yours in multiple balls-to-the-wall, heavily-outnumbered fleet battles, I frankly think we should attack FSW again tomorrow. And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements. Congratulations on the successful defense of your system, and thanks for the fights. It was a blast. --P so basically........you didnt want to take the system anyway? Originally by: hango Our corp chat is generally full of people e-hugging and e-snuggling. ISD is cool like that.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:39:00 - [31] Originally by: Hellaciouss Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl 1 IAC large tower in FAT just came out of reinforced and got killed by regular fleet just now while iac where no where to be found . Try again kiddo or at least come and show us how tough u r ingame instead of forums
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:52:00 - [32] Edited by: Hellaciouss on 22/09/2007 04:53:39 Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Hellaciouss Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl 1 IAC large tower in FAT just came out of reinforced and got killed by regular fleet just now while iac where no where to be found . Try again kiddo or at least come and show us how tough u r ingame instead of forums Hmm, 1 tower out of, 6? That's a pretty low ratio, even for BoB :( I know it must get exciting for you guys when you take down a POS after having troubles for so long LOL So hey, how are your pets in Feyth doing?
INZi coracao ardente Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.22 04:57:00 - [33] awgawd. sounds like a fun and good fight. leave it to that. thanks for the reading
Hardin Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:21:00 - [34] That was one of my most fun nights in EVE ever. Props to BoB for bringing it. They were seriously outnumbered on their first wave yet still went in guns blazin' The battle broke down like this. CVA, Paxton, Sylph and other Providence forces were starting to form up as we knew BoB would try and take out the cynojammer and the POS they has put into reinforced earlier in the week. This process was stiill underway when a BoB gang was reported enroute. As you can imagine we rushed stuff into place and initial coordinating the various groups was 'fun' to say the least Anyway BoB got into the system unmolested and shortly after an engagement happened at one of the gates where it is fair to say we got pwned for a variety of reason but primarily because BoB FC capitalised ruthlessly on our mistakes. BoB shortly after commenced attacking POS. BoB were well organised and their pilots well drilled in aligning out and warping away as soon as targeted by POS. Our POS gunners coordinated with Dictors and Ceptors to try and trap a few as anything that was locked by tower and didn't warp out within 30 secs was dead meat. Over the next 30/45 minutes BoB attacked the cynojammer mercilessly but variety of bubbles, tackles, bumps, lag etc. meant that gradually BoB fleet was being whittled down by our POS gunners. I think they lost around 10 BS in this first assault on tower. CVA and friends losses were also high particularly in terms of tacklers as the BoB fleet had a lot of 'anti-tackle' support (HACs/Recons etc.) which was very well organised. Neverthless our tacklers launched themselves like kamikazes at the BoB fleet - one particular pilot losing nine interdictors over the course of the evening . Anyway with the cyno jammer reduced to 95% armor it became clear to BoB that they were gradually being worn down and they didn't have the firepower to take down the cynojammer and they retreated to their own POS for a bit. CVA and friends used the opportunity to regroup and reship. Shortly after we had word that BoB support had warped to gate and our FC called in conventional fleet to attack them. As this fight kicked off we had word that an additional 50 BoB had just jumped into the next system and we extricated ourselves off the gate with some losses (not as bad as first gate fight fortunately). The new BoB/MC/FIX/AXE jumped into the system and reinforced their first wave. Shortly after they attacked the POS again. Again friendly tacklers threw themselves at the enemy as POS Gunners worked hard to whittle BoB fleet down. Friendly snipers warped in but for a variety of reasons (which are best left discussed on internal forums) lingered in a spot too long and BoB capitalised on this and brought the pain. Over the next 90 minutes BoB relentlessy attacked the POS (both guns and cynojammer). As I said on vent: "I now know what it must have been like at Rourke's Drift (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorke s_Drift) as BoB ferociously attacked the tower over and over again. Many BoB pilots were called primary time after time (i.e Cardassius ) only to warp away in heavy armor or structure to repped by BoB support before coming back into the fight. However, while BoB suceeded in diabaling a few guns (we had some spare) they were again being slowly worn away by the POS guns as the POS gunners slowly developed better tactics. From my perspective a turning point was reached when BoB caught a CVA carrier outside the shields. A lot of BoB support and firepower concentrated on the carrier - which was webbed down to 1.3m/s. This meant that some BoB support took their eye off the ball in terms of aligning out and when POS guns finally started focusing on the guys webbing carrier about 5/6 went down in quick succession. ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
Hardin Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:32:00 - [35] Eventually BoB were down to approximately 15 serviceable battleships and many of these had structure damage (I think Tholarim must have had about 1% structure after his sole turn as POS primary ) With the cynojammer still at around 80% armor and no appreciable impact on the guns (I think they disabled two) the BoB fleet finally retreated - much to the relief of the defenders. During this entire 4 hour period not one word was spoken in local by either side! The POS that could: http://kb.lx2gt.lu/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=2349&view=kills This report from a BoB elsewhere is a pretty decent and fair roundup on the action: Originally by: Perpello The Alliance fleet made life difficult for itself by not bringing in enough battleships to begin with, although a second group bought extra battleships into FSW it still wasn't enough and many had already been lost. Too many support ships, essentially. One CVA Chimera, Corrado McFredric, was caught outside the shield and webbed heavily preventing immediate return inside the shield. The Chimera was nicely tanked, it still went down to under 50% shield before the POS gunners got the webbing ship down and saved the Chimera. The CVA sniper fleet warped at range 170km to us outside the POS, the Alliance fleet aligned toward the CVA fleet and warped to a gang member at close range to the CVA fleet and engaged. So many Abaddons! In the end, we didn't have the firepower to take out all the POS guns and the jammer and decided to return home. The POS shield was at that time still down at around 35-40% after coming out of reinforced and hadn't been re-stronted yet. That Paxton POS is fairly nasty; the POS gunners did a goob job and with all the support especially countless interdictor pilots helped to prevail tonight. Will the Alliance strike back for round #2? Wait and see. The only thing that wasn't mentioned by anyone so far was that Providence forces also had a reasonable number of carriers and dreads in system but these were held in reserved pretty much unused apart from repping duties after BoB had retreated. From Alliance perspective yes they got a lot of kills and they are probably happy with that. From our perspective we saved cynojammer and and tower and got a hell of a lot of useful experience and we are happy with that. From and in-character perspective I will sum up with a couple of appropriate words: Amarr Victor ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:45:00 - [36] Originally by: Hellaciouss Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl Were you really rolling on the floor laughing at repairing a pos?
Gabriel Roberts Minmatar Brecken Solutions	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:45:00 - [37] Originally by: Heretycs FSW-3C -- four days ago, BoB forces entered Providence through Catch with the goal of removing the cynosural system jammer located in FSW-3C. Originally by: Pilk And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support,... Clearly a superior intellect is at work here. Idiot.
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:46:00 - [38] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Hellaciouss Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl 1 IAC large tower in FAT just came out of reinforced and got killed by regular fleet just now while iac where no where to be found . Try again kiddo or at least come and show us how tough u r ingame instead of forums The didn't have some other alliances around to do the lifting while they take the credit. SO naturally it is their allies fault for what happened this morning.
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:53:00 - [39] Great report Hardin, impressive work always from you Providence guys =] almost makes me regret going drinking today instead of assembling a fleet for FSW, glad to see you guys didn't need us ! http://eve.klaki.net/
Taj Zela Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh	Posted - 2007.09.22 06:55:00 - [40] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk Great report Hardin, impressive work always from you Providence guys =] almost makes me regret going drinking today instead of assembling a fleet for FSW, glad to see you guys didn't need us ! your 'buy tyrrax a titan fund' break 2b yet?
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 07:06:00 - [41] It's not for me, I'm not masochist enough to fly a titan was up to 2.4 bil yesterday sometime http://eve.klaki.net/
fugazii Union Of Xtreme Military	Posted - 2007.09.22 08:18:00 - [42] Originally by: Pilk Edited by: Pilk on 22/09/2007 02:31:27 Originally by: Xrensa Originally by: Pilk We took out over 70+ enemy ships in one fleet battle alone, and there were two (or three, depending on how you're counting) major fleet battles. We held the field after both, and looted so much that we literally ran out of room. At the end of the day, your tower is a truly-frightening beast, and we simply didn't have the numbers to take it down. Kudos to your POS gunners, who did yeoman's work, and to whoever set up that POS. That said, if losing 60 ships to your POS means that we get to kill another 100+ of yours in multiple balls-to-the-wall, heavily-outnumbered fleet battles, I frankly think we should attack FSW again tomorrow. And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, yet we still managed to carry the day in both non-POS engagements. Congratulations on the successful defense of your system, and thanks for the fights. It was a blast. --P ...so you'd rather fail your objectives and get some easy kills than, you know... win? No wonder you're on bob's side! Am I willing to allow an unimportant (i.e., not our primary target) enemy to hold sov in an unimportant, non-station system if it means that every time I jump in, I'm warping into PvP Happy Land(TM)? Yes. If it were a system I cared about? I'd be a lot more upset. As it stands, it was an awesome battle, and nobody (from either side) came away upset, I think. Both sides lost a bunch of ships, and had fun doing it. Some days, Eve is hard work. Today, it was a great game. --P Edits in gold. Ummm...this makes little no sense. Not only does your view on whether or not it matters have 0 weight on the big picture as a whole,...but if it didnt matter the system wouldnt of been sieged in the first place. Unless of course, the aim was to go and lose 60 ships for absolutely no reason. Its not like you guys have been at war for a long time and the losses on your side matter much more than the other sides...o wait.
Xrensa GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 08:32:00 - [43] Originally by: Yaay Originally by: Pnuka Grats Paxton/CVA/others on defending your objective. Actually, Paxton and friends failed miserably, the control tower just proved how out of balance POS warfare is becoming... Something even goons complain about on here. We haven't really had any issues taking out a pos cyno jammer... all it requires is a bunch of battleships to stay alert, a pit crew flying TEE-ONE logistics cruisers and staying aligned. I don't think we've ever managed to lose 60 ships to a single pos.
xBlood Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.22 08:36:00 - [44] Lovely report Hardin, and no smack. Is a pleasure reading every one of your posts...is a relief compared to those of GS/BOB and all the other smackers to be honest
Touched darkness Firing Squad Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 09:36:00 - [45] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Hellaciouss Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl 1 IAC large tower in FAT just came out of reinforced and got killed by regular fleet just now while iac where no where to be found . Try again kiddo or at least come and show us how tough u r ingame instead of forums That might have something to do with our prime time and BoB prime time.BTW yeah,you guys could have showed up in past 3-4 days while we repaired like 6-7 towers.Looks like you are getting "steamrolled" in some other regions
Dooshotron Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 09:47:00 - [46] Would be nice if we could congratulate Paxton and friends for a well played defense without some of these self-obsessed twits throwing in their negative comments. Rarely have I seen a group so willing to throw everything they had at defending their assets and to be perfectly frank they put IAC to absolute shame last night. Was a great fun night, minimal lag at my end, well played.
Ramlir 0.0 Corp	Posted - 2007.09.22 09:49:00 - [47] Originally by: Nick Curso omfg roflmao the ironoy is so bad it hurts. I sometimes wonder if these kinda ppl are the type that go on x-factor and are absolutly terrible but are adament there better than madonna lmao. Sorry to smack in ure well written thread. Im so **ed i missed the scrap sounds like great fun on both sides gj pax on a well organised defende of ure pos :) look at dis ***** post
Cassius Hawkeye Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.22 09:50:00 - [48] Edited by: Cassius Hawkeye on 22/09/2007 09:51:32 Excellent report Hardin. Couldn't have put it better, and from my perspective in the opposing fleet you got a lot of assumptions spot on. Was a great evening of fun - iw as in the "support" fleet that came up for the 2nd wave, and the fight outside the pos shields (where we managed to catch a large number of BS's) was a lot of fun and very very intense. The kamakazi dictor pilots were brilliant fun to watch. Weaving my vagabond in and out between about 40 battleships trying to tackle support was brilliant. Later on my trusty vaga also managed to get primaried by the pos guns 4 times, twice when not aligned, and escaped each time. <3 it. We looted a lot of gear, and at the end, popped a lot of the wrecks still with loot on the field for good measure. Next time i'm coming in a BS though A big gratz to Paxton/CVA and their allies for defending their objective. Amazing commitment! -----------------------------------------
Freg Grader Caldari DROW Org Brotherhood of the Spider	Posted - 2007.09.22 10:20:00 - [49] My first fleet fight, and I'm glad I did go there! Thanks for a really fun evening guys!
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 10:31:00 - [50] Originally by: Touched darkness ******** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else
Lady R3d Delta team	Posted - 2007.09.22 10:46:00 - [51] Originally by: Xrensa Originally by: Yaay Originally by: Pnuka Grats Paxton/CVA/others on defending your objective. Actually, Paxton and friends failed miserably, the control tower just proved how out of balance POS warfare is becoming... Something even goons complain about on here. We haven't really had any issues taking out a pos cyno jammer... all it requires is a bunch of battleships to stay alert, a pit crew flying TEE-ONE logistics cruisers and staying aligned. I don't think we've ever managed to lose 60 ships to a single pos. do we need to count all those kills ? TITAN is very good for mining
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 10:49:00 - [52] Edited by: Tyrrax Thorrk on 22/09/2007 10:51:53 Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Touched darkness ****** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else I feel sorry for your alliance, must be pretty embarassing to have smacktards like you represent BoB to the public. Originally by:** Dooshotron Would be nice if we could congratulate Paxton and friends for a well played defense without some of these self-obsessed twits throwing in their negative comments. Rarely have I seen a group so willing to throw everything they had at defending their assets and to be perfectly frank they put IAC to absolute shame last night. Was a great fun night, minimal lag at my end, well played. Keep in mind we've lost a ridiculous amounts of ships since MC got their titan and we're still fielding decent fleets every day. Anyone who says IAC doesn't bring it is either ignorant or trying his hand at forum propaganda. We're obviously not as competent or dedicated as CVA, RA, or AAA, but frankly neither is BoB. http://eve.klaki.net/
Sasha Evergreen Gallente Sand Castle Generals	Posted - 2007.09.22 10:53:00 - [53] Edited by: Sasha Evergreen on 22/09/2007 10:53:55 Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Touched darkness ******** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else Because you lead the attack all by yourself right bobbits? Last time I checked, your alliance is bigger than IAC's and you still need all your pets to tag along. Stop embarassing your alliance by posting regretable comments
Twoside Gallente Seven. Enuma Elish.	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:07:00 - [54] Originally by: Dooshotron Would be nice if we could congratulate Paxton and friends for a well played defense without some of these self-obsessed twits throwing in their negative comments. Followed by: Originally by: Dooshotron and to be perfectly frank they put IAC to absolute shame last night. You really are a doosh :) Battle sounds great, thanks for the nice writeup from CVA :)
Tharrn Amarr Epitoth Fleetyards Vigilia Valeria	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:08:00 - [55] Our people were all in tacklers and did what was neccessary to ensure that the cyno jammer survived. After the burden of implants had been taken from them some people entered a strange kind of berserker frenzy and kept asking for Executioners to go back in. The cost in flesh was high but I am proud of the fierce determination to throw back this assault. If ramming the enemy in pods would help these people would have gone for it. Amarr Mineral Index
Elder Bob GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:10:00 - [56] Originally by: Nick Curso omfg roflmao the ironoy is so bad it hurts. I sometimes wonder if these kinda ppl are the type that go on x-factor and are absolutly terrible but are adament there better than madonna lmao. Sorry to smack in ure well written thread. Im so ****ed i missed the scrap sounds like great fun on both sides gj pax on a well organised defende of ure pos :) It makes me warm and fuzzy inside every time I see a post like this, because everyone goes "OMG STUPID GOONIES TBQH", yet it's Eve's super-elite who are typing like kindergarten with Down's Syndrome. For further research, see any post made by Yazoul Sammaiel.
ollobrains Mission Invasion Squad	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:14:00 - [57] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Touched darkness ******** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else yup the stresses on bob are showing at this time at least with this particular member go everyone but bob Group mission invasions
Ilmonstre Nymphetamine Junkies Nocturnal Legion	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:28:00 - [58] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Touched darkness ******** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else you mean like all the pets have to beg you lot to save them but i guess you are not gonna that when your paying pets ask you. but you have helped out fix plemty of times so why is it weak then for iac to call in some friends
Sokratesz Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 11:38:00 - [59] Another potentially great thread ruined. Thanks goons. Thanks bob. Originally by: Captian Internet Did some one say IBTL? because I think I just heard some one say IBTL
Rorin Cutter Caldari KNIGHTS OF RYCHE Brotherhood Of Steel	Posted - 2007.09.22 12:10:00 - [60] The funny thing is, FSW is very important for BOBÆs little war in catch. That of course is why Paxton with help from all there friends, should be proud of themselves! Beyond that, provi, is great area to be in, I always had lots of fun and friends there. What is not being said here, is although BOB and bob pets are also fighting in FSW for there jump point to catch. they are also fighting and have lost towers in provi, over the last few weeks. And although I was not there, I understand they lost a lowsec pos too. regardless, if it is only spin or whatever, those pilots who are fighting BOB, understand that things are going well and not as bad as BOB would have everyone believe. This fight will go on for a long while, and I for one think we will persevere. It was a great fight last night, and I am looking forward to many more!
Darcuese Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 12:19:00 - [61] Dont wanna sound egoistic or similar, but fighting guys in FSW remind me of bowling. Honestly, it even felt like being in belts chaining npc's. Those that know me, know i speak what i honestly feel. Props to launching spheres at POs however. That tower is nasty thing. We lack some logistic ships to done with all. me, myself and I ------>
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 12:45:00 - [62] Originally by: Ilmonstre Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Touched darkness ******** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else you mean like all the pets have to beg you lot to save them but i guess you are not gonna that when your paying pets ask you. but you have helped out fix plemty of times so why is it weak then for iac to call in some friends Feel free not to compare FIX with the bearfest called IAC , FIX has been attacked for more times that i can remember and they hold their ground and we are happy to lend them a hand . Also FIX have their space while IAC puppies used to get shot if they attempt to do the plexes in their own space by AAA so no comparison what so ever. Reading IAC forums and checking their daily kb stats makes me wonder why they call it KB and not just loss board @ Tyrax , get off your high horse or do you need more local gems made by you about being a smacktard?
Tyrrax Thorrk Amarr Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 13:20:00 - [63] I don't refer to myself as a smacktard, there's a difference between the way I do it and the way you do it. You lack all wit and style, and you're a discredit to your alliance. BoB has a lot of people like you, it's one of the main reasons people don't like BoB. http://eve.klaki.net/
Banlish Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.22 14:03:00 - [64] Good battle report Hardin, always liked reading yours (go join in all of IAC's so we can have similar reports all the time plz!) To CVA, IAC and friends/allies keep it up. I have friends in many of those alliances and some good pew pew goes a long way. Not really sure why BoB went and opened up a 3rd front with CVA and gang, I can understand the jump points and such. But is stirring up a hornets nest of a few thousand people really something they want to do atm when goons are in the east, IAC/AAA is in the north-east and now CVA-others are in the Northern areas and a bit angry? I can understand the search for good fights and pew pew, but this really is alot of fronts. Even BoB community has to be saying 'god damn, alot of brush fires going on.' while yes, at the same time some of them are saying "W00t fights-a-paloza!" Btw, I feel very sorry for the logistics ppl in BoBs faction, they must be cursing you horribly! p.s. Hi Uly.
Hellaciouss Genco Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 14:09:00 - [65] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Reading IAC forums and checking their daily kb stats makes me wonder why they call it KB and not just loss board Thank god your K:D ratio is so good. It's obviously winning you this war by an extremely large margin. I sense failure cascade in the Coalition any day now due to your overwhelmingly good K:D ratio.
Mah Kraah Minmatar Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.09.22 14:22:00 - [66] now the audience may understand why the tiny 300pilot alliance ushrakhan could not held unity station and the surounding area against cva and there allys after they started seriously to try and push us out of the way. all the involved defenders of fsw where also attackers of the lost unity station. on top we had noon of the new nice defense tools u have nowdays: cynojammers, manned posguns...
Sameth Technology Acquisition Collective	Posted - 2007.09.22 14:29:00 - [67] Originally by: Mah Kraah now the audience may understand why the tiny 300pilot alliance ushrakhan could not held unity station and the surounding area against cva and there allys after they started seriously to try and push us out of the way. all the involved defenders of fsw where also attackers of the lost unity station. on top we had noon of the new nice defense tools u have nowdays: cynojammers, manned posguns... Bitter much?
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.22 14:46:00 - [68] Edited by: Darko1107 on 22/09/2007 14:46:17 Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Ilmonstre Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Touched darkness ******** nonsense Ok since you and the other forum jockys fail to even understand how pos work and thats the first pos to come out of reinforced for the day and the other will be up in a few hours later , i guess its ok for you to be clueless . I suggest you go busy your time getting on ur knees begging daddy AAA and RA to come save your butts or else you mean like all the pets have to beg you lot to save them but i guess you are not gonna that when your paying pets ask you. but you have helped out fix plemty of times so why is it weak then for iac to call in some friends Feel free not to compare FIX with the bearfest called IAC , FIX has been attacked for more times that i can remember and they hold their ground and we are happy to lend them a hand . Also FIX have their space while IAC puppies used to get shot if they attempt to do the plexes in their own space by AAA so no comparison what so ever. Reading IAC forums and checking their daily kb stats makes me wonder why they call it KB and not just loss board @ Tyrax , get off your high horse or do you need more local gems made by you about being a smacktard? All you do is come out with generalisations about entire alliances and pathetic insults that insinuate you are a high level of human being in comparison to them. You come out with comments of people being completely clueless and fail to even back up your own. Not to mention the fact that you tell people like tyrax... an alliance leader to get off his high horse, when your just a mere member following orders passed down to you by your seniors. Every post you make is just you trying to pretend your higher than you are. Oh btw, nice report hardin, enjoyed it, sounds like a mighty fine POS . ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Anton Marx Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 14:51:00 - [69] I'm gonna try again Yazoul (or whatever your nickname is). For the love of 21-century civilized communication, end yourself! - Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate - [UMCON]Anton Marx
Emeline Cabernet Amarr DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.22 17:09:00 - [70] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Originally by: Hellaciouss Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl 1 IAC large tower in FAT just came out of reinforced and got killed by regular fleet just now while iac where no where to be found . Try again kiddo or at least come and show us how tough u r ingame instead of forums how about you big bad boys come met us where the real action is, its not like you guys are known to pick the easy fights.
Zagum Darkfin Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.22 17:13:00 - [71] Respect to that Tower setup and its gunners. It was scary warping in and gettting instant locked. /bows ..i..
Eveliddia Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.22 17:22:00 - [72] Has anyone noticed the trend that when CVA is involved everyone leaves happy (UK excluded I guess). It stands that the CVA is GOOD and no matter what happens in this ever changing universe the CVA will always be GOOD GF everyone involved...
Rianharte Polaris Project Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.22 17:23:00 - [73] Was a great fight and both sides respected each other after it. (which is rare after an ingagement). I lost 2 battleships and a couple of inty's but they are small for what was gained in this. To BOB i say great team work on your part and your FC deserves a pat on the back. I admit i had little or no respect for before this battle but that has changed slightly now . All tho numbers in kills where on BOBs side i feel it was a provi victory as we saved the jammer and pos. To my CVA brothers and our friend you perfomed a great duty and unselfishly threw wave after wave of shps at the foes (not many ppl would do that and most would roll over and fade away NOT US) Our POS gunners deserve massive Kudos and our FC's. Great fight all and let try and keep this thread at that stop the smack and let stay on wat the thread is about. Which is good fight and respect on both sides for that.
NATMav F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control	Posted - 2007.09.22 17:31:00 - [74] Originally by: Pilk As it stands, we "fell back" to dock in a station that was IAC's as of a week or so ago. I think that pretty much says it all. --P Don't forget to give RISE docking rights.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.22 17:33:00 - [75] Edited by: Seleene on 22/09/2007 17:33:39 Hardin rocks. ACE report and sums it up nicely. Paxton & Allies - I don't give a damn how many ships you lost (and it was a lot) but the tower still stands and that is a win for you. Period. I said as much in local last night as we left. That tower is an almost mirror copy of 'Natalie', the Dark Blood tower that MC has in FAT. IAC felt her wrath yesterday and I figured it would be a nasty battle last night going up against her sister. In the end, we simply lacked the numbers and the fight went on for too long. There were some excellent fleet fights and the lag was actually not bad at all for many of us. Maybe we'll be back, maybe we won't. I had fun and got to jump through gates and everything last night! \o/ - THIS FLEET FOR RENT!
Silvestri Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.22 18:09:00 - [76] Congrats to CVA and the rest of providence. I'm really glad you are on the coalition side. Keep it up over there! Look forward to all the battle reports as always....
Hardin Amarr Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.09.22 18:12:00 - [77] We are not on Coalition side - we are on IAC side. This was clearly demonstrated today as United Legion took the opportunity to pod a few of our pilots returning from FAT on their way home C'est la vie! ------------------------------ CVA - Kicking Arse For The Empire - http://eve-files.com/dl/83607
Lazuran Gallente Time And ISK Sink Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.22 18:23:00 - [78] Originally by: Yaay Originally by: Pnuka Grats Paxton/CVA/others on defending your objective. Actually, Paxton and friends failed miserably, the control tower just proved how out of balance POS warfare is becoming... Something even goons complain about on here. Take your whines about gameplay to MSN. isn't it funny how some people advocate both GTC<=>ISK trades and EVE being superior due to its cruelty and costly losses, when they use the former to circumvent the latter?
Conlin Gallente Yiotul Fighters Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.09.24 07:06:00 - [79] Originally by: Sameth Originally by: Mah Kraah now the audience may understand why the tiny 300pilot alliance ushrakhan could not held unity station and the surounding area against cva and there allys after they started seriously to try and push us out of the way. all the involved defenders of fsw where also attackers of the lost unity station. on top we had noon of the new nice defense tools u have nowdays: cynojammers, manned posguns... Bitter much? Unity was lost through spamming , CVA saw an easy route and took it , hence the bitterness that leaves a foul taste . If it had been taken by strategy and good fights then the bitterness would never have appeared . After the loss ,the spam , the bitterness has now been replaced by relief . Our small alliance held Unity for longer than anyone expected , that in itself was a victory and even to this day we are still a force to be reckoned with . It maybe politically correct to call us terrorists or pirates to justify the events that took place at our loss ? , but we learned to adapt and nobody can say we havent adapted well . We continue our Burn Providence policy !! .
Omega Man The Geddy Foundation	Posted - 2007.09.24 07:12:00 - [80] Originally by: Hardin We are not on Coalition side - we are on IAC side. This was clearly demonstrated today as United Legion took the opportunity to pod a few of our pilots returning from FAT on their way home C'est la vie! Choose your friends more carefully. - Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345
tartrus Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 07:22:00 - [81] Originally by: Hellaciouss Originally by: Nick Curso Originally by: Hellaciouss Edited by: Hellaciouss on 22/09/2007 04:10:07 Originally by: Yaay Waaaa We can no longer steamroll well set up poses without losing a single ship waaaaa well set up poses can kill our uber officer tanked dreads waaaa Bahaha. Archived for later use. It seems the only time something is imbalanced and overpowered is when BoB has trouble dealing with it. omfg roflmao the ironoy is so bad it hurts. I sometimes wonder if these kinda ppl are the type that go on x-factor and are absolutly terrible but are adament there better than madonna lmao. Sorry to smack in ure well written thread. Im so ****ed i missed the scrap sounds like great fun on both sides gj pax on a well organised defende of ure pos :) The sad thing is I've never once said they were overpowered. I think they need more HP now a`days to be quite @#$%ing honest, and I repair the things perrty much every day! But that's just me. I don't honestly mind repping when I know the things I've repped will cause McBoB ships to explode later. Carry on with those fighter swarm blobs though, let me know how well that goes taking down POS's! rofl hehe I would rather fight bob than old friends. personal feelings aside
Octavinus Augustus Amarr Auctoritan Syndicate Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 07:54:00 - [82] Originally by: Conlin Our small alliance held Unity for longer than anyone expected , that in itself was a victory and even to this day we are still a force to be reckoned with . It maybe politically correct to call us terrorists or pirates to justify the events that took place at our loss ? , but we learned to adapt and nobody can say we havent adapted well . We continue our Burn Providence policy !! . In my opinion U'K has fought CVA & Friends long and hard over the past few years. I don't think there's many wars that has been going on for so long or with such a fervor on both sides. Many people have expressed their admiration of the capabilities of CVA & Friends in this thread and others. I do believe that whatever our capabilities are, they have been honed through that long and (RP wise) bitter war. I do not think that CVA would be what it is today had it not been for U'K. You certainly deserve a lot of respect for that. On a sidenote, I (and many others) did feel very sad that U'K came to the 0.0 Providence war with different expectations than CVA which ultimately led to the 9UY debacle. I'm glad to hear that you have overcome it and are prospering again. OOC I wish you the best of luck. IC I wish you may all burn in whatever version of hell we Amarr believe in. Q: Do you know how to make a disobediant Minmatar slave scream? A: Skin him and roll him in salt.
Vaustrien Caldari The Greater Goon The OSS	Posted - 2007.09.24 07:56:00 - [83] Geez I hate you all, hearing about the well timed shield reppers/warpouts, the flying a vaga in POS range to tackle support and warpouts four times when being primaried... ... my computer's too crappy to be able to do that, even with all the settings minimal. Geez I lag on 10 v 10 fights let alone neato massive battles. Hate you... all.
Oosel Nightmare Holdings Sylph Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:03:00 - [84] this thread almost makes me want to actually put all of my years of training weapons and caps ship to use.well done to all maybe i shall give up ship sales and actualy them instead
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:17:00 - [85] Edited by: Mangold on 24/09/2007 16:18:28 Originally by: Octavinus Augustus Originally by: Conlin Our small alliance held Unity for longer than anyone expected , that in itself was a victory and even to this day we are still a force to be reckoned with . It maybe politically correct to call us terrorists or pirates to justify the events that took place at our loss ? , but we learned to adapt and nobody can say we havent adapted well . We continue our Burn Providence policy !! . In my opinion U'K has fought CVA & Friends long and hard over the past few years. I don't think there's many wars that has been going on for so long or with such a fervor on both sides. Many people have expressed their admiration of the capabilities of CVA & Friends in this thread and others. I do believe that whatever our capabilities are, they have been honed through that long and (RP wise) bitter war. I do not think that CVA would be what it is today had it not been for U'K. You certainly deserve a lot of respect for that. On a sidenote, I (and many others) did feel very sad that U'K came to the 0.0 Providence war with different expectations than CVA which ultimately led to the 9UY debacle. I'm glad to hear that you have overcome it and are prospering again. OOC I wish you the best of luck. IC I wish you may all burn in whatever version of hell we Amarr believe in. The reasons for the bitterness has been debated at length at other places and there's no reason to start it over again. Short version is that U'K kept allies outside the fight in the beginning while CVA got alliances we had never even heard of to help them out. CVA's diplomacy skills were obviously much better than U'K's. CVA couldn't kill U'K's towers and spammed the system with their own (perfectly legit) and U'K didn't want to/couldn't do that and basically left 9UY to CVA. +1 outpost to CVA. Congrats. After that most of U'K thought "**** CVA, we don't care about them anyway" and that's when the oldest conflict in EVE died. At least that's my opinion. The official U'K version may be different. CVA are good fighters and seldom smack (one sure as hell do, but most of us have him blocked by now) and used to be fun to fight. I'm not surpriced that MCBOBFIX had trouble killing them. It's not easy. The loss of Unity station wasn't a bad thing for us as it was both expected and tied us into carebearing. It's much more fun not having to defend it. All of this are my personal thoughts and may not be the official U'K version.
El Torrent Gallente Paxton Industries Paxton Federation	Posted - 2007.09.25 05:45:00 - [86] Originally by: Mangold Short version is that U'K kept allies outside the fight in the beginning while CVA got alliances we had never even heard of to help them out. CVA's diplomacy skills were obviously much better than U'K's. Paxton's side, of exactly this story is easy explained. When we came to the area a long time ago, the CVA did not shoot my people, but the UK did, despite claiming doing NRDS. At that time we were small, like a corp with 5-10 active members, and neutral to everyone. The CVA let us become, what we are now. Nobody ever asked us to help in that conflict. We offered help on our own. The UK made picking a side really easy for us. -- Hello World.
Sehanine Caldari Solitary Confinement	Posted - 2007.09.25 06:07:00 - [87] mmm FSW, I remember the days when it had Crokite in the belts That was another lifetime in EVE though
Eveliddia Amarr The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.25 06:09:00 - [88] This issue is non existent let it die. Good fight was had, both then and now. Congrats PXF on a well designed PoS setup and to BoB/Friends for bringing it. I for one anxiously await your next trip into lower Providence.
IHaveTenFingers Caldari ADVANCED Combat and Engineering Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.25 06:12:00 - [89] Posting not-so-high up in a not-all-that-epic thread! -TF
ForumPosterAlt HERRO KITTY	Posted - 2007.09.25 06:54:00 - [90] Originally by: Pilk And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, etc Well people were saying it was a good fight, to me this automatically means that McBob didn't ruin the node with 1000 fighters. If you guys want to flex your fleet muscles then do so like this, or at least without 50+ carriers/moms. People know why McBob monopolizes the field when they produce unplayable lag with such a tactic. When neither side can actually play, AI wins. And whoever brings more AI wins. Your fighter-blob tactic is smart but don't look for any high fives, it still ruins the game for those who can't do a damn thing when your cloud of drones is ruining their **. Because posting on the forums is serious business.**
Fire Hawk Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.25 08:45:00 - [91] Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I don't refer to myself as a smacktard, there's a difference between the way I do it and the way you do it. You lack all wit and style, and you're a discredit to your alliance. BoB has a lot of people like you, it's one of the main reasons people don't like BoB. oh noes, we are descredited on CAOD... I hope we can still win ingame
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:20:00 - [92] Originally by: ForumPosterAlt Originally by: Pilk And to all the carriers-blobs-are-how-they-win naysayers, note that MC/BoB/FIX/AXE/friends fought without benefit of capital support, while Paxton had multiple carriers, etc Well people were saying it was a good fight, to me this automatically means that McBob didn't ruin the node with 1000 fighters. If you guys want to flex your fleet muscles then do so like this, or at least without 50+ carriers/moms. People know why McBob monopolizes the field when they produce unplayable lag with such a tactic. When neither side can actually play, AI wins. And whoever brings more AI wins. Your fighter-blob tactic is smart but don't look for any high fives, it still ruins the game for those who can't do a damn thing when your cloud of drones is ruining their **. It's not a tactic about which we templed our fingers and laughed maniacally, it's the result of a fundamental bedrock of Eve: people tend to want to fly their biggest, shiniest toy. If dreadnoughts did a damn bit of good in a fleet battle, we'd be flying those, instead. Additionally, many of our side's top PvPers (/me looks at Seleene and Stradivarious, for example) are now in motherships, from which they cannot swap out into another ship. So they're going to tend to formulate strategies, and FC's who want to involve them are going to tend to use strategies, that maximize the effectiveness of multiple motherships on the field. Once that happens, it's usually pretty straightforward that the only thing better than 5 moms on the field is 5 moms and 20 carriers. I'm not saying the result is always ideal--if you've ever tried to launch a flight of drones in the middle of a fleet battle, you'd know the lag is just as bad, if not worse, for the carriers--but it's a logical, predictable outcome based on well-known player tendencies and the game mechanics as they currently stand. --P Kosh*: The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.*
torN Deception GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.25 22:41:00 - [93] Originally by: Zagum Darkfin Respect to that Tower setup and its gunners. It was scary warping in and gettting instant locked. /bows Mad resp3kt to Domination Control Tower for bringing it! gf all
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.09.25 23:17:00 - [94] Originally by: Fire Hawk Originally by: Tyrrax Thorrk I don't refer to myself as a smacktard, there's a difference between the way I do it and the way you do it. You lack all wit and style, and you're a discredit to your alliance. BoB has a lot of people like you, it's one of the main reasons people don't like BoB. oh noes, we are descredited on CAOD... I hope we can still win ingame well, you did wipe out the goons over a year ago. thought you already had won?
Johnny ReeRee The ReeRee Brigade	Posted - 2007.09.26 00:36:00 - [95] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd well, you did wipe out the goons over a year ago. thought you already had won? Silly goose! How can BoB have won when the goonies are busy dining in NOL? Oh wait....

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