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Sasha Evergreen
Gallente Sand Castle Generals
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:01:00 -
[1]
At least that's what the map says. I also see a RA doomsday hit on bob's killboard.
Hope to see a good battle report later.
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Sasha Evergreen
Gallente Sand Castle Generals
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:01:00 -
[2]
At least that's what the map says. I also see a RA doomsday hit on bob's killboard.
Hope to see a good battle report later.
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0verkill
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:03:00 -
[3]
I died 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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0verkill
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:03:00 -
[4]
I died 0verkill Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean we aren't out to get you.
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:04:00 -
[5]
Originally by: 0verkill I died
Hey man me too.
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:04:00 -
[6]
Originally by: 0verkill I died
Hey man me too.
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Skelator
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:05:00 -
[7]
Originally by: 0verkill I died
'
They didn't "OVERKILL" you did they? 
Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts.
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:05:00 -
[8]
Mr MAss is my only target atm, waiting for my guns to start shooting....primaries and rest still not visible me, myself and I ------> |

Skelator
Stronghold corp Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:05:00 -
[9]
Originally by: 0verkill I died
'
They didn't "OVERKILL" you did they? 
Our Knights/GhostFleet are available for small honorable contracts.
Phasmatis Velox Equitatus
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:05:00 -
[10]
Edited by: Darcuese on 23/09/2007 00:05:46 Mr MAss is my only target atm, waiting for my guns to start shooting....primaries and rest still not visible
zaisig murrak locked me, myself and I ------> |

Jita TradeAlt
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:06:00 -
[11]
i hear ra lost a titan
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slip66
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:07:00 -
[12]
you heard wrong
Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers |

Cassius Hawkeye
Minmatar Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:07:00 -
[13]
Yeah man it's great - took me 15 minutes to lock a target 15 minutes to shot, then i crashed out...
wonderful  -----------------------------------------
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jojojojnr
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:07:00 -
[14]
I hear bob ms down?
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:08:00 -
[15]
i hear Jacques Cousteau ainght loud anymore in local me, myself and I ------> |

Necro EvilZombie
North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:10:00 -
[16]
Originally by: jojojojnr I hear bob ms down?
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Fellet
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:11:00 -
[17]
according to my hud i died buttttt i still seem to be shooting something o.O
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:11:00 -
[18]
Edited by: Darcuese on 23/09/2007 00:12:06 and i think im gonna be killed from unknow enemy soon
ah, managed to warp on time me, myself and I ------> |

Nurenig
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:11:00 -
[19]
Rumor is a bob MS went down. John Roe's Hel cyno'ed out
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:12:00 -
[20]
Do you people just sit there refreshing the ship kills on the map until you see a big red ball or what? Does anyone outside of this war actually play Eve?
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Psilocin
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:12:00 -
[21]
Lag is fun for all ages.
FOFOFOOOOO! |

Fellet
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:12:00 -
[22]
lol
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EnacheV1
Hunters Agency Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:13:00 -
[23]
Got DD'ed but at least i got a raven just before that so i didnt spent the night for nothing.
From the TS seems at least 5 rsf capitals are down till now, no ideea on alliance cap losses. Lag is bad, probably some people repair people already dead or responding to 5-10 min late calls.
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jojojojnr
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:13:00 -
[24]
There's a game? o_0 I thought I was paying just for the forums.
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Shinori
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:13:00 -
[25]
BOB refused to jump into our camp with fighters deployed, so we jumped into theirs after completing our objectives in 2-R.
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Nurenig
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:15:00 -
[26]
We killed all CORM POS's in 2-R & desided to jump all out **** into there fleet.
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Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc. Rising Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:15:00 -
[27]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Do you people just sit there refreshing the ship kills on the map until you see a big red ball or what? Does anyone outside of this war actually play Eve?
We would but you guys cause to much lag to make the game ******* playable.
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:16:00 -
[28]
Messy, messy, messy.....oh CCP....
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:16:00 -
[29]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Do you people just sit there refreshing the ship kills on the map until you see a big red ball or what? Does anyone outside of this war actually play Eve?
No, he's just an alt of someone who thinks their side is winning, same with every other "big red blob" or "I was just browing the killboards" post.
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Lord WarATron
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:18:00 -
[30]
Battles like these is where the Abaddon shines. By the time you lock someone, all your cap has recharged! 
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Billion Isk Mission |

EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:20:00 -
[31]
Originally by: Josh Causto
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Do you people just sit there refreshing the ship kills on the map until you see a big red ball or what? Does anyone outside of this war actually play Eve?
We would but you guys cause to much lag to make the game ******* playable.
You think youre lagging? Try coming down here.
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Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc. Rising Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:23:00 -
[32]
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources
Originally by: Josh Causto
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Do you people just sit there refreshing the ship kills on the map until you see a big red ball or what? Does anyone outside of this war actually play Eve?
We would but you guys cause to much lag to make the game ******* playable.
You think youre lagging? Try coming down here.
Yes I do think I'm lagging. And no thanks.
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:23:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Shinori BOB refused to jump into our camp with fighters deployed, so we jumped into theirs after completing our objectives in 2-R.
This.
Here be carebears! |

Archonon
Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:24:00 -
[34]
Entering game on both chars.
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Tayler Derden
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:25:00 -
[35]
i cant call this **** "fight"
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NAFnist
Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:25:00 -
[36]
im not even in the fight or the system and I cannot log in
ffs -
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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:26:00 -
[37]
Originally by: NAFnist im not even in the fight or the system and I cannot log in
ffs
Took me 10-15 mins to log into the next system. Been jumping into ZID for the last 10 minutes as well.
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torN Deception
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:28:00 -
[38]
BoB members are whining about lag when they get steamrolled after we heard so much about how Goons must just be whiny sore losers for complaining about unplayable fighter-induced lag? Why am I not surprised by this in the least? Will I answer any of these rhetorical questions? |

Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:29:00 -
[39]
Originally by: torN Deception BoB members are whining about lag when they get steamrolled after we heard so much about how Goons must just be whiny sore losers for complaining about unplayable fighter-induced lag? Why am I not surprised by this in the least? Will I answer any of these rhetorical questions?
Fighter induced lag has saved two of their motherships so far so it's still sort of working for them...
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Nurenig
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:30:00 -
[40]
When in rome do as the romans do :)
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:30:00 -
[41]
Edited by: Orangir on 23/09/2007 00:30:20
Originally by: Josh Causto Yes I do think I'm lagging.
Yeah well I don't so what'ya have to say about that? :colbert:
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torN Deception
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:31:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Lord WarATron Battles like these is where the Abaddon shines. By the time you lock someone, all your cap has recharged! 
Alliance Warfare is the extreme end of eve, not suitible for everyone. Those lagfests represent 0.01% of eve pvp, but probebly cause 99.99% of the issues you mention. Eve pvp is very very lagfree, just charge your alt into lowsec or npc 0.0 and you will get the types of pvp you want.
I know how you are feeling, but conqurable space is not easy and never ment to be easy, but my reccomendation is that you get a alt and use small scale pvp on the alt char while your main is focused on fleets so you get the best of both worlds. |

Nurenig
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:32:00 -
[43]
Originally by: torN Deception
Originally by: Lord WarATron Battles like these is where the Abaddon shines. By the time you lock someone, all your cap has recharged! 
Alliance Warfare is the extreme end of eve, not suitible for everyone. Those lagfests represent 0.01% of eve pvp, but probebly cause 99.99% of the issues you mention. Eve pvp is very very lagfree, just charge your alt into lowsec or npc 0.0 and you will get the types of pvp you want.
I know how you are feeling, but conqurable space is not easy and never ment to be easy, but my reccomendation is that you get a alt and use small scale pvp on the alt char while your main is focused on fleets so you get the best of both worlds.
I see what u did there
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Isabel Sweet
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:36:00 -
[44]
Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 23/09/2007 00:36:36 A GS carrier saw me and i died... :) was still fun..i had time to type in gang chat all warp in points, repair points..and yes i shot 2 people....but i tried my luck too much...7 warp in and out
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:38:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Orangir on 23/09/2007 00:38:05 Only about 250 people in local and the lag is worse than anything I've ever seen. Who was saying fighters blobs don't create lag again? Ah right, BoB.
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Lord Eidion
S-44
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:43:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 23/09/2007 00:38:05 Only about 250 people in local and the lag is worse than anything I've ever seen. Who was saying fighters blobs don't create lag again? Ah right, BoB.
Mybe it's wrecks... or shuttles? ;p nah... hope you guys are having fun atleast
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Josh Causto
Gallente Fatalix Inc. Rising Sun Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:43:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Orangir Edited by: Orangir on 23/09/2007 00:30:20
Originally by: Josh Causto Yes I do think I'm lagging.
Yeah well I don't so what'ya have to say about that? :colbert:
:O'reilly:
Originally by: Speed Devil
Originally by: ReePeR McAllem Everytime you fit anything other than a laser on our ships, babies die.
and when ya fit lasers on your ships nothing dies
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Farscape Hw
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:44:00 -
[48]
Edited by: Farscape Hw on 23/09/2007 00:45:16 i bubbled the bob fleet in zid, ra jumped a titan in and blew up around 40 i hear. then goons jumped in and cynoed caps in. the bob fleet got pwned. someone said on ts that a bob mothership went down at some point in the fight. multiple carriers were dieing. and goons caps were called out of the fight after like 3 hours or something into it. the lag was horrific from what i hear. and some of the goon caps couldnt turn off thier reps or jump out or anything.
im currently logged off like 15 jumps away from the fight and i cannot log in, its where i crashed jumping through a gate.
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Gay Whisper
Blue Oyster Bar Regulars
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:46:00 -
[49]
Talantless Blob
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Jehuty Vanricadia
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:46:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Farscape Hw Edited by: Farscape Hw on 23/09/2007 00:45:16 i bubbled the bob fleet in zid, ra jumped a titan in and blew up around 40 i hear. then goons jumped in and cynoed caps in. the bob fleet got pwned. someone said on ts that a bob mothership went down at some point in the fight. multiple carriers were dieing. and goons caps were called out of the fight after like 3 hours or something into it. the lag was horrific from what i hear. and some of the goon caps couldnt turn off thier reps or jump out or anything.
im currently logged off like 15 jumps away from the fight and i cannot log in, its where i crashed jumping through a gate.
As far as I can see no bob ms was lost. Any names?
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Hunter Vonnegut
Shadows of the Dead Aftermath Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:46:00 -
[51]
Best two hour powerpoint slideshow.....er wait, im playing Eve
ive been loading grid for about 30 minutes now, the only bad guy i saw was a lone hurricane on the gate but that was a while back, i think i popped him, to scared to open my eve mail to see if i got popped as well
I think i am most likely dead by now.
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:47:00 -
[52]
The gate looks ugly, cap wrecks all over it. No idea whose are whose.
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Fellet
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:50:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Fellet on 23/09/2007 00:51:21 lagage
funny lagging so bad not even half my hud loaded
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Jehuty Vanricadia
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:51:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Xrensa The gate looks ugly, cap wrecks all over it. No idea whose are whose.
I think they are yours, we have lost 3 confirmed and killed at least 10 confirmed. More going down as we speak.
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Fieldmarsjalk Pommel
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:51:00 -
[55]
Without the lag.... There would have been atleast 200 more RAGoon in that system. After my first shiploss, and 2 accounts F***ed up, I had 45 min of TS ****, trying to get in to k-9 and 2-R...
Load-lag hit me 3 jumps out from ZID. Nothing worked from then on.
I had 4 other ships of various sizes in K-9 and 2-R that wouldn't load either.
Props to the hamsters..
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:55:00 -
[56]
welp.
Didn't save 2-R, but bob would have been about 3 motherships short tonight if dictors were capable of dropping bubbles.
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Anton Marx
Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:58:00 -
[57]
Hmm I feel the pain of guys trying to do something dozens of jumps away from that lagfest. I tried to jump into F4R from ZXIC (IN CATCH!!!) and ended up filing a stuck-character petition ;)
- Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate -
[UMCON]Anton Marx |

Hey You
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 00:59:00 -
[58]
Edited by: Hey You on 23/09/2007 01:00:07 Goons jumped - Goons claimed win on forums - Goons died...
Nothing new on the West
To fall in love and fall in debt To alcohol and cigarettes and Mary Jane To keep me insane and doing someone else's ******* |

oodin
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:00:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Lord WarATron Battles like these is where the Abaddon shines. By the time you lock someone, all your cap has recharged! 

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Hubris
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:03:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Hey You Edited by: Hey You on 23/09/2007 01:00:07 Goons jumped - Goons claimed win on forums - Goons died...
Nothing new on the West
At lest they jumped into your lag fleet. You guys just sat one jump over. -
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:06:00 -
[61]
hello Nyx me, myself and I ------> |

FowlPlayChiken
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:09:00 -
[62]
nyx down
http://nhimebaugh.wetpaint.com/ Just podded this sig, now where is my toy? - Wrangler
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:09:00 -
[63]
hahaha tolon, good job man.
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:09:00 -
[64]
GOON nyx DOWN
:D:D:D:D:D::D
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Dark Shikari
Caldari Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:09:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Dark Shikari on 23/09/2007 01:09:30 Rumor has it that a nice pretteh green coaster just exploded. Rumor also has it that it had Dark Blood fittings.
23 Member
EVE Video makers: save bandwidth! Use the H.264 AutoEncoder! (updated) |

Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:09:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Hubris
Originally by: Hey You Edited by: Hey You on 23/09/2007 01:00:07 Goons jumped - Goons claimed win on forums - Goons died...
Nothing new on the West
At lest they jumped into your lag fleet. You guys just sat one jump over.
we get mad props.
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Fellet
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:09:00 -
[67]
what is this thing that just exploded?
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Jehuty Vanricadia
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:10:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Darcuese hello Nyx
goodbye nyx.
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Yaay
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:10:00 -
[69]
Originally by: DeadProphet GOON nyx DOWN
:D:D:D:D:D::D
we gave up helping our allies.... :-/
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:10:00 -
[70]
2007.09.23 01:10
Victim: Protectories Alliance: GoonSwarm
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:11:00 -
[71]
Ahahahahahahaha this is the best news I've had all day.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:11:00 -
[72]
welp
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:12:00 -
[73]
Well that was pretty hilarious, tolon is humorously livid. At least we still get these stations.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:14:00 -
[74]
Tolon is too drunk to really understand what's going on.
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Ithur'Iul
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:14:00 -
[75]
Tolon is #1 quote dis if you're down.
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Terranid Meester
Knights Hospitalier
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:15:00 -
[76]
Looks like 10 Coalition (if you call it that) cap ships down and 2 Alliance carriers down according to the quickly pasted kills on the killboards.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:16:00 -
[77]
*snip* Spam - Valorem
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DeadProphet
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:17:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Terranid Meester Looks like 10 Coalition (if you call it that) cap ships down and 2 Alliance carriers down according to the quickly pasted kills on the killboards.
its at least 3, mitch went down too
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Dramaticus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:17:00 -
[79]
*snip* Spam - Valorem
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:18:00 -
[80]
*snip* Spam - Valorem
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EL TITAN
Caldari Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:18:00 -
[81]
weeeee great fight ;o (yes even though i lost meh carrier it was a nice fight funnage laggy but funnn)
NyX down, hi suas o/ --------------------------------------------
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Valorem ([email protected]) |

Mitch Taylor
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:19:00 -
[82]
Originally by: DeadProphet
Originally by: Terranid Meester Looks like 10 Coalition (if you call it that) cap ships down and 2 Alliance carriers down according to the quickly pasted kills on the killboards.
its at least 3, mitch went down too
the minute the slide show stops ill post, honest :)
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:22:00 -
[83]
Props to Tolon for bringing it.
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Shinori
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:22:00 -
[84]
*snip* Spam - Valorem
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Valorem
Amarr Forum Moderator

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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:24:00 -
[85]
Spam posts removed.
Please remain on topic.
forum rules | CAOD Rules | [email protected] | Our Website |
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Barkode
Fourth Dimension
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:30:00 -
[86]
T2 Cap Rechargers. Pimpin. -----
Sovereignty Level Warfare a.k.a. No Alliance Left Behind |

Santaria Boon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:31:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 23/09/2007 01:31:04 Battle Aftermath
Assorted Capital Wrecks
Goon Nyx Wreck
TS says - - "25 capital wrecks.. looks like 3 friendlies."
*snip - Please do not troll - Valorem
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:32:00 -
[88]
Boom.
Boom.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:32:00 -
[89]
welp
time for some gta san andreas multiplayer
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:33:00 -
[90]
*snip* Removed image - Valorem
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:33:00 -
[91]
w00t
btw, lol at tolon for flying a female avatar
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:34:00 -
[92]
Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
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Vyres
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:37:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
Well you could kill another 50 goon super caps it wouldnt change the fact that RMF is in serious trouble right now.
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:37:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
Ya totally, stupid goonies, why did you think you could win this war?
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Santaria Boon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:37:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Santaria Boon on 23/09/2007 01:38:26
Originally by: Santaria Boon
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 23/09/2007 01:31:04 Battle Aftermath
Assorted Capital Wrecks
Goon Nyx Wreck
TS says - - "25 capital wrecks.. looks like 3 friendlies."
*snip - Please do not troll - Valorem
*snip* Do not discuss moderation on the forums. Mail us at [email protected] if you have any queries - Valorem
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:37:00 -
[96]
*snip* Please do not discuss moderation on the forums - Valorem
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Santaria Boon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:38:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
Actually it was your FC who said you weren't helping your allies and the map that says you're getting owned.
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FewGoodMen
Gallente Gordon Brown Fan Club
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:41:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Santaria Boon
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
Actually it was your FC who said you weren't helping your allies and the map that says you're getting owned.
Looks like you feel for a classic case of this!
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:42:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Santaria Boon Actually it was your FC who said you weren't helping your allies and the map that says you're getting owned.
In 'your' region, looting your mothership.
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Santaria Boon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:42:00 -
[100]
Originally by: FewGoodMen
Originally by: Santaria Boon
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
Actually it was your FC who said you weren't helping your allies and the map that says you're getting owned.
Looks like you feel for a classic case of this!
Listen to the mp3. Look at the map. You don't have to take my word for it. I thought it had to be false to be disinformation.
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Mark Starkiller
D00M. Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:43:00 -
[101]
ahhh, i love thise real time battle reports. Its almost im there with you in slideshov 
.
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The StrayDawg
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:43:00 -
[102]
We totally didn't want that mothership anyways :colbert:
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arkarsk
Provenance. Endless Horizon
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:44:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Cassius Hawkeye Yeah man it's great - took me 15 minutes to lock a target 15 minutes to shot, then i crashed out...
wonderful 
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 23/09/2007 00:12:06 and i think im gonna be killed from unknow enemy soon
ah, managed to warp on time
Originally by: Lord WarATron Battles like these is where the Abaddon shines. By the time you lock someone, all your cap has recharged! 
Another skillfull BoB win. Congrats on the Nyx kill guys, clearly your superior tactics shine against the disorganized mob that is the RSF. |

Silence Duegood
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:44:00 -
[104]
*snip* Posting with an unidentified character and characters in NPC corporations in this forum is prohibited. If you wish to participate in the discussions here, be sure to have your corporation and or alliance status ticked in your forum settings. - Valorem ([email protected])
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:46:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Wait a sec , the forum jockies were saying we are getting owned in fyth and we aint helping our alliance  
Talk about being owned in the face 
Originally by: snerdly Hey bob, you just won a battle! Now's your chance to be gracious in victory, thus showing yourself to be better than goons and getting more people on your side!
Fail.
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Needa3
Minmatar Templars of Space
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:48:00 -
[106]
Thanks to those that podded me. Was getting boring staring at the same screen for 20 mins.
nice ships though
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:49:00 -
[107]
Was an epic fight. Strangely i wasn't lagging until half the fleet got accidentaly gang warped mid battle. When I came back in there were actually less people but goon wrecks were causing so much lag ( see when they are dead they seem to be able to lag people out ).
We lost 3 caps, but killed about 20 at least i'd say. --------------------------------------
Lets face it, people that use the word 'noob' are blatantly either 12 or with more friends on the internet than in real life! |

Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:51:00 -
[108]
I swore I would never make a post like this on eve-o, but here I go anyway.
Please, gentlemen of eve, let us stop all this dumb partisan chest-beating and rejoice in the comedy of Tolon losing a nyx.
It is hilarious. ZID was hilarious. Yes, BoB is awesome because Tolon logged into their gatecamp while incredibly drunk. Yes, RSF is great because we'll probably take 2-r anywhere. These are all besides the point however, being:
Holy god this is funny.
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Gjs312
Black Lance Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:55:00 -
[109]
Wow, looks like fleet battles will remain a horribly broken roulette game then anything involving a matter of skill or planning. Props bob.
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:58:00 -
[110]
Nights like this are why Goonswarm is so awesome.
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Dooshotron
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 01:58:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Gjs312 Wow, looks like fleet battles will remain a horribly broken roulette game then anything involving a matter of skill or planning. Props bob.
Sour grapes, was not that bad.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:01:00 -
[112]
Edited by: Darcuese on 23/09/2007 02:03:32
Originally by: Gjs312 Wow, looks like fleet battles will remain a horribly broken roulette game then anything involving a matter of skill or planning. Props bob.
Well, i wouldnt say no matter of skill and planing.
2-r is dead end system. When we came to zid there werent more then 200 of us with 400 hostiles next to.
plan was to wait for their move (dead end, remember?)...knowing that we would make nice bait for titan while waiting at the gate.
And cyno in our capitals not before they were needed, etc,etc....at least bit of tactic
And while im here i would say hello to Jaque Cuostoe (sry for grammar) me, myself and I ------> |

bitters
Rens 911
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:03:00 -
[113]
Edited by: bitters on 23/09/2007 02:03:41
Originally by: snerdly Edited by: snerdly on 23/09/2007 01:30:11 Hey bob, you just won a battle! Now's your chance to be gracious in victory, thus showing yourself to be better than goons and getting more people on your side!
EDIT: Tooooooo late 
I was about to go, hey man, that's unfair, people are being nice!
And then I read page four.
Originally by: Dooshotron Sour grapes, was not that bad.
You must play a completely different game from the rest of us.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar Spartan Industries Cruel Intentions
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:04:00 -
[114]
Love the new need for speed initiative.
Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about what is happening, quicker than their overview updates.
I, erm, like kill things and stuff |

Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:04:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Darcuese Edited by: Darcuese on 23/09/2007 02:02:07
Originally by: Gjs312 Wow, looks like fleet battles will remain a horribly broken roulette game then anything involving a matter of skill or planning. Props bob.
Well, i wouldnt say no matter of skill and planing.
2-r is dead end system. When we came to zid there werent more then 200 of us with 400 hostiles next to.
plan was to wait for their move (dead end, remember?)...knowing that we would make nice bait for titan while waiting at the gate.
And cyno in our capitals not before they were needed, etc,etc....at least bit of tactic
The fact that our illustrious FC decided to make us go after motherships that we couldn't possibly keep tackled while letting the other caps pound us probably didn't help either.
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Mr Spark
Infinity Zone
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:07:00 -
[116]
So let me get this straight. From what I can gather:
- BOB sit in system for several hours waiting and not doing anything. - RAGOON decide to DD, jump and cyno in their capital fleet because they get impatient? - BOB get the upper hand in the battle and come out victorious - RAGOON are complaining that BOB used carriers, when they were well aware of the composition of the BOB fleet plus they knew what happend last time in 0oy when BOB made a stand for it.
Darwin award anyone?
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HydroSan
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:07:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Xrensa The fact that our illustrious FC decided to make us go after motherships that we couldn't possibly keep tackled while letting the other caps pound us probably didn't help either.
It's OK brosef, CoRM is going to lost their stations soon, so in the end it was worth it.
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Jim Linger
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:09:00 -
[118]
that was a short lived MS
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:09:00 -
[119]
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO ANGRY!
*makes post*
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Stoffer Ninjapirate
Amarr GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:10:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Mr Spark So let me get this straight. From what I can gather:
- BOB sit in system for several hours waiting and not doing anything. - RAGOON decide to DD, jump and cyno in their capital fleet because they get impatient? - BOB get the upper hand in the battle and come out victorious - RAGOON are complaining that BOB used carriers, when they were well aware of the composition of the BOB fleet plus they knew what happend last time in 0oy when BOB made a stand for it.
Darwin award anyone?
More like this:
- Goons finish their objectives - Goons are impatient people who like to see things blow up, and happen to have a very drunk FC - Goons jump in, laffo ensues
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Elohe
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:12:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Stoffer Ninjapirate
Originally by: Mr Spark So let me get this straight. From what I can gather:
- BOB sit in system for several hours waiting and not doing anything. - RAGOON decide to DD, jump and cyno in their capital fleet because they get impatient? - BOB get the upper hand in the battle and come out victorious - RAGOON are complaining that BOB used carriers, when they were well aware of the composition of the BOB fleet plus they knew what happend last time in 0oy when BOB made a stand for it.
Darwin award anyone?
More like this:
- Goons finish their objectives - Goons are impatient people who like to see things blow up, and happen to have a very drunk FC - Goons jump in, laffo ensues
and in the end of the day we still get the system
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HydroSan
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:12:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Jim Linger that was a short lived MS
It's suas. If I had a million dollars for every time he lost a capital I'd be one rich mother****** let me tell you
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:12:00 -
[123]
Wow, look at all these excuses..
         
FanFest is for... |

Traverse Moonstalker
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:13:00 -
[124]
welp
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snerdly
snerd LTD
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:15:00 -
[125]
Edited by: snerdly on 23/09/2007 02:15:38 actually mak, what I'm seeing is 'lol suas' and 'we're going to take the system anyhoo' from goons. Both are perfectly valid.
Look i can do that TOO!
           
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:16:00 -
[126]
It's also important to note that Mitch, of "I don't have enough time to play EVE better join BoB" fame, lost his carrier.
Poor guy :(
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:17:00 -
[127]
This mothership loss has completely demoralized me and I, for one, will no longer be participating in this war. You win BoB. You're better. Congrats.
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Jadess
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:19:00 -
[128]
Originally by: Orangir This mothership loss has completely demoralized me and I, for one, will no longer be participating in this war. You win BoB. You're better. Congrats.
finaly a goon that makes some sense
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:19:00 -
[129]
Lawl that she wants, is another Nyx
Here be carebears! |

Tayler Derden
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:23:00 -
[130]
we have balls to jump into hostile camp even if we all can die bob dont have balls to do it its all.
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Mitch Taylor
Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:24:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Martin VanBuren It's also important to note that Mitch, of "I don't have enough time to play EVE better join BoB" fame, lost his carrier.
Poor guy :(
/sigh
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Moonlight Express
Amarr Moonlight Express Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:25:00 -
[132]
Goons didn't want than Nyx anyway. 
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Tayler Derden
Solar Dragons Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:27:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Tayler Derden on 23/09/2007 02:27:57 when that nyx died somebody win alot of money hehe
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Superbus Maximus
Gallente Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:29:00 -
[134]
Originally by: Moonlight Express Goons didn't want than Nyx anyway. 
I wanted the nyx stupid goons should have given it to me 
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lofty29
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:30:00 -
[135]
Edited by: lofty29 on 23/09/2007 02:30:10 VIDEO!!
Fraps footage of the Nyx going down in DIZ tonight. Amusing music too  ---
Project Mayhem 2 |

Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:30:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Orangir on 23/09/2007 02:31:05
Originally by: Moonlight Express Goons didn't want than Nyx anyway. 
Yes we did, very much so. And I can confirm that our internal forums are essentially in turmoil right now. The mothership loss has hit us pretty damn hard and we're bleeding corps left and right. Looks like this war might be coming to an early end guys. 
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:31:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Tayler Derden we have balls to jump into hostile camp even if we all can die bob dont have balls to do it its all.
you had only x2 the numbers as well. mad props
here be signatures! |

Darkstar22
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:32:00 -
[138]
Man if i had 5 cents for every time goonfleet couldn't keep there mouths shut after they get owned i would be a billionaire
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Blood Impact
Maphesto's children
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:33:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Tayler Derden we have balls to jump into hostile camp even if we all can die bob dont have balls to do it its all.
Thats not called balls, its called "lack of brains" but everybody knows that about goons right? Having balls in battle can get you killed just like it happened tonight, having brains can get you to kill alot without ending in a pod. Even with BoB+Pets outnumbered you manage to loose battles and a load of capitals.
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:34:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Mitch Taylor
Originally by: Martin VanBuren It's also important to note that Mitch, of "I don't have enough time to play EVE better join BoB" fame, lost his carrier.
Poor guy :(
/sigh
Hey bro sorry about Fallen Souls I hear they aren't doing so hot, good thing you jumped ship I guess 
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Orangir
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:43:00 -
[141]
Originally by: ZoM T we lost 3 carriers, to the 7 carriers, 9 dreadnoughts, and 1 mothership RSF lost. But ya, your right, we totally got 'pwned'.
I think you forgot those two station systems you lost. Don't worry though I've got your back brosef, edit them in and I'll edit this post so it looks like you didn't forget them.
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Endeva
Caldari Most Wanted INC
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:44:00 -
[142]
Originally by: ZoM T
Originally by: Farscape Hw Edited by: Farscape Hw on 23/09/2007 00:45:16 i bubbled the bob fleet in zid, ra jumped a titan in and blew up around 40 i hear. then goons jumped in and cynoed caps in. the bob fleet got pwned. someone said on ts that a bob mothership went down at some point in the fight. multiple carriers were dieing. and goons caps were called out of the fight after like 3 hours or something into it. the lag was horrific from what i hear. and some of the goon caps couldnt turn off thier reps or jump out or anything.
im currently logged off like 15 jumps away from the fight and i cannot log in, its where i crashed jumping through a gate.
I don't generally post, but this is to easy.
First off it was 28, and secondly, we lost 3 carriers, to the 7 carriers, 9 dreadnoughts, and 1 mothership RSF lost. But ya, your right, we totally got 'pwned'.
seems he has different view of getting pwned:P
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Director Stoned
Band of Developers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:45:00 -
[143]
Please hold the pickles on my McBoB
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Nurenig
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:47:00 -
[144]
Edited by: Nurenig on 23/09/2007 02:49:25
Here is what happened.
1. We finished the last POS off in 2-R 2. RA Titan Doomsdays the bob fleet. 3. We rush to protect any bob counter attack on the titan. 4. Arround 1/2 of the cap fleet makes it into ZID. 5. Tolon drunk as **** desides to try kill Motherships with 2 Interdictors present. 6. We are winning the battle, John Roe is spotted at planet 1. 7. Carriers warp to planet 1 leaving RA Dreads to fend for themselves. 8. Without repping support RA start to lose dreads. 9. RA pull out of the system. 10. A lot of goon carriers become glitched where they cant turn of there reppers & are unable to jump out. 11. Tolon logs back in for some reason & is warped straighty into a bob gate camp.
Summery. If tolon has stuck to the battle plan bob would of lost this battle but he went for Supercap so we paid the price. Lag was amazing. It took me 45 Minutes to load the grid which is not a lie. BOB got lucky with the Nyx kill it couldnt of been any easier. good fight cya in Esoteria
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:47:00 -
[145]
mad propz for bringing it, to everyone except the servers.
were the losses worth 2 stations? Survey says..........DING!
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:50:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke mad propz for bringing it, to everyone except the servers.
were the losses worth 2 stations? Survey says..........DING!
I'm terms of ISK (yes, I went there) and given the fittings on the nyx, we probably still ended up a few bil in the red, but oh well. Hakuna Matata.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.23 02:59:00 -
[147]
I said worth it, not ISK parity. I think you will agree that the conquering of territory was worth the expense.
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1Of9
Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:03:00 -
[148]
Originally by: DeadProphet GOON nyx DOWN
:D:D:D:D:D::D
quoted.
best .... news .... EVER
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Levka
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:05:00 -
[149]
Edited by: Levka on 23/09/2007 03:06:04 Thats it, i'm locking this thread.
Edit: Ooooops, forgot to log on my GM account 
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:06:00 -
[150]
Originally by: 1Of9
Originally by: DeadProphet GOON nyx DOWN
:D:D:D:D:D::D
quoted.
best .... news .... EVER
Quoted for the worst post ITT
Here be carebears! |

Korah
Caldari Heavy Metal Mining and Manufacturing
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:07:00 -
[151]
Can you afford to lose 16 cap ships and a mothership for the other 60+ outposts bob+friends own? And, are you sure you're not 'counting your chickens before they hatch' with these 2 outposts?
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke I said worth it, not ISK parity. I think you will agree that the conquering of territory was worth the expense.
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:15:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Nurenig Edited by: Nurenig on 23/09/2007 02:49:25
Here is what happened.
1. We finished the last POS off in 2-R 2. RA Titan Doomsdays the bob fleet. 3. We rush to protect any bob counter attack on the titan. 4. Arround 1/2 of the cap fleet makes it into ZID. 5. Tolon drunk as **** desides to try kill Motherships with 2 Interdictors present. 6. We are winning the battle, John Roe is spotted at planet 1. 7. Carriers warp to planet 1 leaving RA Dreads to fend for themselves. 8. Without repping support RA start to lose dreads. 9. RA pull out of the system. 10. A lot of goon carriers become glitched where they cant turn of there reppers & are unable to jump out. 11. Tolon logs back in for some reason & is warped straighty into a bob gate camp.
Summery. If tolon has stuck to the battle plan bob would of lost this battle but he went for Supercap so we paid the price. Lag was amazing. It took me 45 Minutes to load the grid which is not a lie. BOB got lucky with the Nyx kill it couldnt of been any easier. good fight cya in Esoteria
thats a lot of excuses for one post
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:16:00 -
[153]
Originally by: Taj Zela thats a lot of excuses for one post
being drunk is the best macho badass excuse ever.
here be signatures! |

Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:17:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Korah Can you afford to lose 16 cap ships and a mothership for the other 60+ outposts bob+friends own? And, are you sure you're not 'counting your chickens before they hatch' with these 2 outposts?
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke I said worth it, not ISK parity. I think you will agree that the conquering of territory was worth the expense.
16 caps and a mothership for every 2 systems we have to take? Im actually pretty sure we could. If you really want to know how much isk goonswarm has floating around ask Honktytonk Johnson.
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1Of9
Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:20:00 -
[155]
Originally by: Oofig VanDoogan
Originally by: 1Of9
Originally by: DeadProphet GOON nyx DOWN
:D:D:D:D:D::D
quoted.
best .... news .... EVER
Quoted for the worst post ITT
i dont care .. nothing will take this smile off my face
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:21:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Korah Can you afford to lose 16 cap ships and a mothership for the other 60+ outposts bob+friends own? And, are you sure you're not 'counting your chickens before they hatch' with these 2 outposts?
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke I said worth it, not ISK parity. I think you will agree that the conquering of territory was worth the expense.
Such is the glory of the swarm! But actually, since our wealth is distributed amongst our members and not centralized within the directorate, we can afford to continue. Even with the corp broke, as is par for our mildly (ya right) ******** group of super adventurous friends, we can still afford to have nice things. Even if we break them often and quickly. You know though, if every goon would cut the drink for a couple months, we'd be doing pretty well. what'cha goin' do v0v
Look at that, I drukn posted with zero spelling mistakes!
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Alchemos
Gallente Middle School Comedy Club
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:22:00 -
[157]
Quote: 16 caps and a mothership for every 2 systems we have to take? Im actually pretty sure we could. If you really want to know how much isk goonswarm has floating around ask Honktytonk Johnson.
Turns out they have ALOT of isk floating around.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:27:00 -
[158]
As far as I know goonfleet doesn't issue ships, so every loss was privately funded. Even my rifter! Think about it!
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Gromodzilla
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:31:00 -
[159]
Isk is cheap these days. Thanks to our asian friends :)
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Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:37:00 -
[160]
On the eastern front, losses are immaterial. Keep on pushing RA/goons 
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:42:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Cippalippus Primus As far as I know goonfleet doesn't issue ships, so every loss was privately funded. Even my rifter! Think about it!
we issue corp capships dumbass.
Just not supercaps.
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:43:00 -
[162]
someone make a graph showing the correlation between bob kills and bob forum posts
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:55:00 -
[163]
So many many coalition capitals in the last month or so?
45?
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Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:55:00 -
[164]
I soloed 2 BoB dictors. In a Crow.
Think that explains the lag.
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Morning Mist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:56:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Xipious Oash didn't a goon create that dancing banana?
Not a Goonswarm Goon, but a Goon yes. From what I remember Fox used it without his permission but compensated him nicely when he brought it to their attention.
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Ungdall
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:56:00 -
[166]
Originally by: Levka
Originally by: Alias11 someone make a graph showing the correlation between bob kills and bob forum posts
Answer lies here
GRAPH
Prof. Levka, plz explain graph because I can't even begin to understand it.
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Morning Mist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:57:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Jenna Shame So many many coalition capitals in the last month or so?
45?
How many systems has the GBC lost in the last month or so?
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:57:00 -
[168]
Edited by: Shoukei on 23/09/2007 03:58:23
Originally by: Jenna Shame So many many coalition capitals in the last month or so?
45?
this moths score for coalition is: - lost some 45 caps - won 1 system (soon) - lost 1 system
mission accomplished.
here be signatures! |

Levka
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 03:58:00 -
[169]
haha, even if i knew what that graph supposed to show, i'm in no condition to explain it right now :)
Maybe tomorrow when i sobber up :)
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 04:02:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Shoukei Edited by: Shoukei on 23/09/2007 03:58:23
Originally by: Jenna Shame So many many coalition capitals in the last month or so?
45?
this moths score for coalition is: - lost some 45 caps - won 1 system (soon) - lost 1 system
mission accomplished.
2. We have controlling sov count in both CORM systems now.
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Primer Xenius
The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.23 04:15:00 -
[171]
Quote: this moths score for coalition is: - lost some 45 caps - won 1 system (soon) - lost 1 system
mission accomplished.
Sieging is always more difficult to defending a system. RA and co will get their chance if BOB and co try to take it all back.
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.23 04:36:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Primer Xenius
Quote: this moths score for coalition is: - lost some 45 caps - won 1 system (soon) - lost 1 system
mission accomplished.
Sieging is always more difficult to defending a system. RA and co will get their chance if BOB and co try to take it all back.
Build more caps.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 04:43:00 -
[173]
Edited by: Shoukei on 23/09/2007 04:43:11 some 7 months of war, over 120 capitals lost, and its all back to square one 
here be signatures! |

Jonny Damordred
Stimulus
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Posted - 2007.09.23 04:49:00 -
[174]
Edited by: Jonny Damordred on 23/09/2007 04:50:08
Originally by: EdFromHumanResources Do you people just sit there refreshing the ship kills on the map until you see a big red ball or what? Does anyone outside of this war actually play Eve?
Yes, I (and many others) am just not pretentious enough to think anyone else beyond my little conflicts cares...
Oh, and this is someone from one of the respective sides on an alt anyway, but you already knew that.
Love and Ganking, Jonny D.
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Scavok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 04:55:00 -
[175]
Edited by: Scavok on 23/09/2007 04:55:01 Guess we'll be mining for a few weeks if we ever want to siege these last towers 
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:16:00 -
[176]
Heavy losses? Check. Still accomplished the objective? Check.
Goonfleet? Check.

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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:29:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Shoukei Edited by: Shoukei on 23/09/2007 04:43:11 some 7 months of war, over 120 capitals lost, and its all back to square one 
Discounting the destruction of d2, LV, and some small BoB renters (say hi to SoCo, Gonad, Gunboat Diplomacy and Xelas on your way out corm!) yes, yes we are back to square one.
Also we blew up Shrike.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:30:00 -
[178]
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
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Enzo Florinteen
Gallente The 13th Armored Headhunters
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:43:00 -
[179]
How many Capitals can the goons lose before going belly up? Easy the answer is 109. 
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:45:00 -
[180]
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
This post wins the thread.
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Hrin
Minmatar Merch Industrial GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:46:00 -
[181]
Surprised that BoB is willing to wait all day to better their K/D ratio, but do nothing to save their pet's stations? People wonder why BoB has so few allies and continues to lose space...
Thread TLDR: Goons lose battle, still winning war
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:52:00 -
[182]
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
I'm sure the alliance will be happy to wait several hours to get 25 caps including a Nyx. They would like to lose like that all the time I'm sure.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.23 05:54:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Jenna Shame
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
I'm sure the alliance will be happy to wait several hours to get 25 caps including a Nyx. They would like to lose like that all the time I'm sure.
I'm sure their pets will happily admire their killboard as their assets get locked into lost stations. If you tally the POS and assets being lost while BoB's "Steamroller" sits on it's thumbs, the ISK ratio is quite a bit more even.
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:00:00 -
[184]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Jenna Shame
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
I'm sure the alliance will be happy to wait several hours to get 25 caps including a Nyx. They would like to lose like that all the time I'm sure.
I'm sure their pets will happily admire their killboard as their assets get locked into lost stations. If you tally the POS and assets being lost while BoB's "Steamroller" sits on it's thumbs, the ISK ratio is quite a bit more even.
...then you also should factor in the various ferrogel moon chains we've been ninja-destroying while we wait for these rediculous 4 day reinforced timers to expire
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Jenna Shame
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:01:00 -
[185]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Jenna Shame
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
I'm sure the alliance will be happy to wait several hours to get 25 caps including a Nyx. They would like to lose like that all the time I'm sure.
I'm sure their pets will happily admire their killboard as their assets get locked into lost stations. If you tally the POS and assets being lost while BoB's "Steamroller" sits on it's thumbs, the ISK ratio is quite a bit more even.
You mean losing 45 caps in the last few weeks won't have an effect on trying to hold new systems? Last time this many cap ships were downed it was F-T, I recall how well it went for the coallition after that.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:03:00 -
[186]
in goonswarm you spend entire day shooting structures and then you die to a fleet half your size. its a daily schedule.
here be signatures! |

Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:04:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Vile rat on 23/09/2007 06:04:52
Originally by: Jenna Shame
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Jenna Shame
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
I'm sure the alliance will be happy to wait several hours to get 25 caps including a Nyx. They would like to lose like that all the time I'm sure.
I'm sure their pets will happily admire their killboard as their assets get locked into lost stations. If you tally the POS and assets being lost while BoB's "Steamroller" sits on it's thumbs, the ISK ratio is quite a bit more even.
You mean losing 45 caps in the last few weeks won't have an effect on trying to hold new systems? Last time this many cap ships were downed it was F-T, I recall how well it went for the coallition after that.
Nya nya gotcha stations.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:06:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Vile rat Nya nya gotcha stations.
i think bob would have sold them to you for 20% of the isk you lost.
here be signatures! |

NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:08:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Shoukei
Originally by: Vile rat Nya nya gotcha stations.
i think bob would have sold them to you for 20% of the isk you lost.
Maybe CORM should have paid more rent?
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:29:00 -
[190]
its becoming obvious that goon and bob leadership are on the payroll of the empire capital ship industry. these guys are turning trillions on this conflict 
here be signatures! |

Testosterone Bomb
Red Ballz
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Posted - 2007.09.23 06:34:00 -
[191]
Edited by: Testosterone Bomb on 23/09/2007 06:35:56 Edited by: Testosterone Bomb on 23/09/2007 06:35:40 Dudes this entire post is silly, The short and sweet is that in Eve ships get built and go Boom. What will decide the War will be 2 things, who can maintain the level of game play required and supplies to build ships, modules and ammo. What has happened recently is this though.
North West, with the corps from Fallen Souls fleeing to YouWhat the regions of Pure Blind, Fade & Cloud Ring could become a lot less safe for Bob friendly farmers and force home YouWhat to defend.
North Central, Razor & MM have both shown themselves to be strong Alliances post the fall of D2. The unknown being are they strong enough with their allies to take Branch and Tenal now that Fallen Souls is no longer in the north.
North East, Smash & Kill , the Wild Card that has broken up the Drone Region PACT and helped to bring an end to easy ISK / Ore farming in the area in addition to bringing home some of the Alliances that had been attacking Bob to defend their home systems.
South Central, Skirmish Warfare between FIX & IAC escalating due to Bob & MC invading Catch which resulted in CVA and the Alliances and Corps in Providence to enter the War as allies of IAC.
South East, Ragoon and allies secure Omnist & Tenerifis, The Alliances of DR, RMF & Rise find them their systems on the front lines of the War. Southern Connection loses control of their space.
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Van Steiza
Battlestars GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 07:10:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Taj Zela
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
What have you or your corp ever accomplished in Eve? Serious question
I lol'd QFT _______________________________________________ My ****ing Signiture was raped from beneath me :*( |

Moctobot
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 07:11:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Taj Zela
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
What have you or your corp ever accomplished in Eve? Serious question
for starters he compelled you to type out several characters and then press post
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 07:13:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Moctobot for starters he compelled you to type out several characters and then press post
i saw your killmail posted on his trollboard. no lie.
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Panthora
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Posted - 2007.09.23 08:22:00 -
[195]
it always amazes me on this when someone wins there are no issues at all with the servers and when they lose omfgwtf the server did this that and the other....it called being able to admit defeat i think ^^
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.23 08:33:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Moctobot
Originally by: Taj Zela
Originally by: NATMav
Omnipotence itself is reduced to sitting in a system for hours waiting for the enemy to get bored enough to jump into an obvious trap.
Yeah, BoB's winning.
What have you or your corp ever accomplished in Eve? Serious question
for starters he compelled you to type out several characters and then press post
I see what you did there brosef.
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larietta
Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:10:00 -
[197]
here have a cookie
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex I soloed 2 BoB dictors. In a Crow.
Think that explains the lag.
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SPACE BEEZ
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:20:00 -
[198]
Edited by: SPACE BEEZ on 23/09/2007 09:20:10 Since BoB achieved such a stunning and decisive victory they surely must have saved their pets POS's and station systems right? right......?
Mad props and much respect to everyone involved much honour goes out to the bros.
Your signature is inappropiate for these forums - Put it back again and have your signature locked - Kreul Intentions |

Sentinel Eeex
Caldari DarkStar 1 GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:21:00 -
[199]
Originally by: Sentinel Eeex I soloed 2 BoB dictors. In a Crow.
Think that explains the lag.
Originally by: larietta here have a cookie
Can't figure out if you're naturally dumb, or that's just because you probably woke up.
Reread, maybe you'll understand the point.
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Flying DogbearRatcat
Advocates
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:39:00 -
[200]
Alliance members - Smacking the ship loss is pointless. Tolon lost a new mothership by logging on at a gate drunk. The Goons think it is the funniest thing in the world. If you know anything about Tolon and goon mentality you will know that all this will do is raise Tolons legendary status and the story of it will just increase moral. No joke.
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Tzrailasa
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:44:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Diehard Si ...... but goon wrecks were causing so much lag ( see when they are dead they seem to be able to lag people out almost as much as their T1 frigs and shuttles ).
That's because a wreck DO cause almost as much load-lag as a ship. When you load a ship or a wreck, you also load it's contents, so the only difference is the items destroyed...
My views are my own. They do not represent the views of my corporation or alliance. |

Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.09.23 09:46:00 -
[202]
Edited by: Maksiim on 23/09/2007 09:46:43
Seriously one time I got drunk...
....wait this is IAC's excuse..make your own up!
FanFest is for... |

Genicus
Emerald Empire Drunken N Disorderly
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:00:00 -
[203]
Edited by: Genicus on 23/09/2007 10:01:30 this thread is a prime example to the goonswarm propaganda. claiming bob got annihilated. mucho spamzo from the goonies and alts making false claims.
as far as i see
bob n co lost 3 carriers lost 0 dreadnaughts lost 25 battleships lost 0 motherships
where as goonie and co lost 8 carriers lost 10 dreadnaughts lost 46 battleships lost 1 mother ship
yes... one hell of a loss for bob. the only choo choo train thats rolling now is your propaganda one.
I dont fight for neither side in this war, but id much rather see bob kick your arses all over the place than the opposite. I hope the erst of the community is seeing thru this goonswarm propaganda train. DERAILED!     
edit: 1 more thing.. you laim "you got bored so u jumped into bobs fleet"? Bull**** thats just a pathetic excuse for a loss
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Flying DogbearRatcat
Advocates
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:05:00 -
[204]
Edited by: Flying DogbearRatcat on 23/09/2007 10:04:53
Originally by: Genicus Edited by: Genicus on 23/09/2007 10:01:30 this thread is a prime example to the goonswarm propaganda. claiming bob got annihilated. mucho spamzo from the goonies and alts making false claims.
as far as i see
bob n co lost 3 carriers lost 0 dreadnaughts lost 25 battleships lost 0 motherships lost 1 system
where as goonie and co lost 8 carriers lost 10 dreadnaughts lost 46 battleships lost 1 mother ship
yes... one hell of a loss for bob. the only choo choo train thats rolling now is your propaganda one.
I dont fight for neither side in this war, but id much rather see bob kick your arses all over the place than the opposite. I hope the erst of the community is seeing thru this goonswarm propaganda train. DERAILED!     
edit: 1 more thing.. you laim "you got bored so u jumped into bobs fleet"? Bull**** thats just a pathetic excuse for a loss
i fixed it for you
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Genicus
Emerald Empire Drunken N Disorderly
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:09:00 -
[205]
Edited by: Genicus on 23/09/2007 10:09:31 Diddent need to be fixed. Out of curisity how much manpower and time did it take to secure it?
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:09:00 -
[206]
Actually if you wanna be all technical about it both RMF stations are now under majority GS control.
"But but.. their capital ships! They lost a mothership!"
Who cares. Objectives reached, outposts conquered. Yes we are as suicidal with our capitals as we have always been with our frigates. That's just how we roll.
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Eair
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:16:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Eair on 23/09/2007 10:16:08
Hilarious night.
See this is why Goons should stick to flying worthless ships. Actually risking genuine assets was bound to end in complete disaster when combined with the massive derth of fighting ability in that alliance. Better to go back to letting RA be putting their isk on the line.
Speaking of Red Alliance I feel really quite sorry for them. I wonder how they are enjoying watching their capital kill / loss record sink into the mud. Was once a topic of much pride for them
When flying along side a skilless blob style alliance becomes an integral part of your own way of fighting though, it is inevitable your own skills will fade.
It already apparant how flying with the Goons has robbed RA of it's edge.
Red Alliance used to be based on hit and run, thinking outside the box, and generally out smarting their opponents.
Now they are nothing more than another blob alliance trying to play by Goonswarms rules of artlessly cramming as many ships in a system as possible and hoping for the best. Unfortunately it works worse with caps ships than t1 frigs.
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HotSeat
Black Omega Security Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:16:00 -
[208]
If we are going to get into total caps kills / looses against Bob & pets, you should include RA,TCF, PL etc vs Bob + friends.
PL alone has killed about 50 caps, include a MS. One fight doesn't tell the show the whole picture.
Even so looks like we had a very bad night, congrats to Bob, and no more caps op's with Suas drunk 
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:19:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Vile rat Actually if you wanna be all technical about it both RMF stations are now under majority GS control.
"But but.. their capital ships! They lost a mothership!"
Who cares. Objectives reached, outposts conquered. Yes we are as suicidal with our capitals as we have always been with our frigates. That's just how we roll.
Such a shame you guys suck so badly at shooting anything with a 'pulse', innit.
Quote this if your capital died.
FanFest is for... |

Don Z0LA
Caldari TunDraGon
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:21:00 -
[210]
so many bob&co alts here post without corp/alliance info :/
imho very stupid losses for goons, why did they jumped in at all? but if they had fun that way, cant blame them.
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Eair
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:21:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Vile rat Actually if you wanna be all technical about it both RMF stations are now under majority GS control.
"But but.. their capital ships! They lost a mothership!"
Who cares. Objectives reached, outposts conquered. Yes we are as suicidal with our capitals as we have always been with our frigates. That's just how we roll.
Your alliance is really crap at pvp.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:22:00 -
[212]
Edited by: Vile rat on 23/09/2007 10:23:45
Originally by: Maksiim
Originally by: Vile rat Actually if you wanna be all technical about it both RMF stations are now under majority GS control.
"But but.. their capital ships! They lost a mothership!"
Who cares. Objectives reached, outposts conquered. Yes we are as suicidal with our capitals as we have always been with our frigates. That's just how we roll.
Such a shame you guys suck so badly at shooting anything with a 'pulse', innit.
Quote this if your capital died.
We're already discussing what we're going to name these two new shiny stations. Probably something that makes fun of losing our first supercap!
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Kirja
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:36:00 -
[213]
Your alliance is really crap at pvp.
An unknown alt trolling CAOD about e-honor and e-skills in internet spaceship game - priceless. Get back under your bridge.
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:40:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Vile rat We're already discussing what we're going to name these two new shiny stations. Probably something that makes fun of losing our first supercap!
think the 2-r one should be called "50bil but goons are rich". it will show the dedication.
here be signatures! |

The Internetz
United Society Starfleet Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:42:00 -
[215]
Edited by: The Internetz on 23/09/2007 10:42:07 Say what you want but don't blame the liquor!
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Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:44:00 -
[216]
Originally by: The Internetz Say what you want but don't blame the liquor!
are you suggesting that he uses some wimpy excuse such as "i was tired and just didn't think!"? how unbecoming.
here be signatures! |

1Of9
Gallente Beasts of Burden YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:54:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Vile rat Actually if you wanna be all technical about it both RMF stations are now under majority GS control.
"But but.. their capital ships! They lost a mothership!"
Who cares. Objectives reached, outposts conquered. Yes we are as suicidal with our capitals as we have always been with our frigates. That's just how we roll.
Goons Translated:
Goons, don't worry about this defeat or loss. You didn't pay for those ships, i didn't either. Don't worry, we shall have frigs in our reach. Don't get your morale down.. it's how we roll.
/translation
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Susan Acid
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Posted - 2007.09.23 10:54:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Jenna Shame So many many coalition capitals in the last month or so?
45?
I hear Jenna Shame got most kills
c/d
I'll take a warning from CCP for posting in here as long as mods issue a warning for everytime you post in here.
50% 1 man Alt corps and Alts with mains in Fix/RISE/etc in this thread.
GO GOONS tbh
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:04:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Farscape Hw Edited by: Farscape Hw on 23/09/2007 00:45:16 i bubbled the bob fleet in zid, ra jumped a titan in and blew up around 40 i hear. then goons jumped in and cynoed caps in. the bob fleet got pwned. someone said on ts that a bob mothership went down at some point in the fight. multiple carriers were dieing. and goons caps were called out of the fight after like 3 hours or something into it. the lag was horrific from what i hear. and some of the goon caps couldnt turn off thier reps or jump out or anything.
im currently logged off like 15 jumps away from the fight and i cannot log in, its where i crashed jumping through a gate.
The award of best post of the year goes too ....  
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Tannach
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:07:00 -
[220]
Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Originally by: "James Lyrus"
If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:11:00 -
[221]
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
You guys used to be in ISS right? Why don't you tell us a bit about taking stations back.
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Kirja
R.u.S.H. Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:13:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Using the same logic - ships can be built again.
Ah i see K/D is the only thing that matters in the end. That explains why so many BoB members do not to post their loses.
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Tannach
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:19:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
You guys used to be in ISS right? Why don't you tell us a bit about taking stations back.
*shrug* They are still there, ISS is still going...IAC is under a little pressure, who knows maybe those stations will be re-taken one day.
A combined assault by IAC, AAA, Goons and RA wasnt a bad way to go. I can still dock at 1/2 of them so no major gripe.
I agree with Jade on this one...if there was a big red self-distruct button on the station then it would be an issue.
Originally by: "James Lyrus"
If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.
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Vosx
Omega Fleet Enterprises Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:19:00 -
[224]
Was an entertaining evening, shame i crashed and spent a hour getting back in 
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Tannach
The Littlest Hobos Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:21:00 -
[225]
Originally by: Kirja
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Using the same logic - ships can be built again.
Ah i see K/D is the only thing that matters in the end. That explains why so many BoB members do not to post their loses.
Ships are a personnel thing, stations tend not to be. Guess the difference between someone stealing your car or your work office/school burning down.
Originally by: "James Lyrus"
If the army started trying to storm tescos, you can bet they'd be throwing bagels at them.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:21:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Kirja
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Using the same logic - ships can be built again.
Ah i see K/D is the only thing that matters in the end. That explains why so many BoB members do not to post their loses.
Yep, in reality we did lose lot more capitals then its posted. But its all simple PR.
Speaking of which, everybody is satisfied i guess......we had a lot of fun and kills...other side did their task as intended, i guess.
As i said previously, i would personaly give away all my posestions and stations for plenty of fights as last night.
My personal view me, myself and I ------> |

Scatim Helicon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:21:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Uhhh, territory is always paid for in blood - unless you're RISE or CoRM, in which case its paid for in ISK and any remaining shreds of self respect.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:21:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Shoukei its becoming obvious that goon and bob leadership are on the payroll of the empire capital ship industry. these guys are turning trillions on this conflict 
OMG, and MC is the ones publicly proclaiming they are selling cap ships to all buyers so this....omg....
this is PROOF that everyone is in fact working for MC!! What irony!!~!~!~~ONE~~!~ELEVEN~!~~!1``1~~!~
           
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:22:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Uhhh, territory is always paid for in blood - unless you're RISE or CoRM, in which case its paid for in ISK and any remaining shreds of self respect.
I know what an honor-tank looks like, but what does a self-respect tank look like? Please elaborate, and I also wish to subscribe to your newsletter.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:26:00 -
[230]
The best part of this is watching everybody get mad because it's not bothering us at all.
"Dammit why aren't you angry so we can point and laugh!" We've already answered this, it's because we accomplished our objectives and are satisfied with the result. gg nm.
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Griffinator
Gallente Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:27:00 -
[231]
been a while since i had that much fun after the wait (laggy), good fight to goonfleet, red alliance, anyone else who was there and to that crazy SNIGG pilot running into us at range even after the fight was all over (yes i did spot you guys in local), big hugs Griff, btw thank you for killing almost all my fighters, i got more now though.
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Eair
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:34:00 -
[232]
Edited by: Eair on 23/09/2007 11:35:59 Edited by: Eair on 23/09/2007 11:34:43
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Uhhh, territory is always paid for in blood - unless you're RISE or CoRM, in which case its paid for in ISK and any remaining shreds of self respect.
Remind me how much isk Red Alliance made as they methodically farmed every complex in "your" territory every day? 
Originally by: Vile rat The best part of this is watching everybody get mad because it's not bothering us at all.
It's not bothered you so much you've posted like 7 times in the 3 pages trying to laugh it off 
GUYZ WE DIDN'T WANT THOSE 45 CAPITALS ANYYWAY
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Vladic Ka
Viper Squad Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:44:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Griffinator been a while since i had that much fun after the wait (laggy), good fight to goonfleet, red alliance, anyone else who was there and to that crazy SNIGG pilot running into us at range even after the fight was all over (yes i did spot you guys in local), big hugs Griff, btw thank you for killing almost all my fighters, i got more now though.
:( This post really really makes me sad.
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:45:00 -
[234]
Originally by: Eair [ It's not times you like 7 pages laugh in the last 3 trying so much to it off you've bothered posted
CAPITALS ANYYWAY DIDN'T WE WANT THOSE 45 GUYZ
Since you are an alt I've taken the liberty to rearrange your words into a meaningless jumble.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:45:00 -
[235]
Edited by: Darcuese on 23/09/2007 11:45:57
Originally by: Vile rat The best part of this is watching everybody get mad because it's not bothering us at all.
"Dammit why aren't you angry so we can point and laugh!" We've already answered this, it's because we accomplished our objectives and are satisfied with the result. gg nm.
The best part is that even along the RA and rest of your friends you still keep losing battles over and over, even though most of your chars have enough SP (at this time) to properly run BS or even capitals, you have more then enough numbers, etc,etc. And since majority of simple pilots play this game for pure PvP, it put smiles on our faces over and over again.
Props to acomplishing your objective though me, myself and I ------> |

Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:52:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Darcuese
The best part is that even along the RA and rest of your friends you still keep losing battles over and over, even though most of your chars have enough SP (at this time) to properly run BS or even capitals, you have more then enough numbers, etc,etc. And since majority of simple pilots play this game for pure PvP, it put smiles on our faces over and over again.
Props to acomplishing your objective though
Yup. We're just losing our way through Feyth.

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Sionn Klorgh
Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:56:00 -
[237]
- Winning battles but losing stations obviously means something else except winning.
- People harping on about losses must clearly be part of some outfit that could not possibly do the same. Absorbing losses, without a drop in morale, is very important alliance attribute. Something I think that has rubbed off on the goons from the Russians over the course of their relationship.
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 11:59:00 -
[238]
Band of Brothers has never lost a major capital fleet battle!
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Cringeley
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:00:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Darcuese The best part is that even along the RA and rest of your friends you still keep losing battles over and over, even though most of your chars have enough SP (at this time) to properly run BS or even capitals, you have more then enough numbers, etc,etc. And since majority of simple pilots play this game for pure PvP, it put smiles on our faces over and over again.
Props to acomplishing your objective though
Remember when ATUK had its own empire?
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:00:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Vile rat
Originally by: Darcuese
The best part is that even along the RA and rest of your friends you still keep losing battles over and over, even though most of your chars have enough SP (at this time) to properly run BS or even capitals, you have more then enough numbers, etc,etc. And since majority of simple pilots play this game for pure PvP, it put smiles on our faces over and over again.
Props to acomplishing your objective though
Yup. We're just losing our way through Feyth.

All aboard the losetrain?
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Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 12:16:00 -
[241]
I thought it was a really fun fight. Lag-wise better than Ooyz, where it took 45 minutes to even jump in, then 20 minutes of waiting for the grid to load, only to get popped by unseen enemies, or in worse case a rat spawn.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:14:00 -
[242]
we jumped :( me, myself and I ------> |

Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:38:00 -
[243]
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/09/2007 13:38:55 a - We loose ship. b - We loose cap ships. c - We loose supers caps.
At alts and all people spitting on the Coalition, we don't forget a, b and c.
BUT : d - we are still advancing on the front. e - we are the attackers since end of may now. f - objectives are complete (which were, of course, "let's all loose our ships")
a, b and c, yes. a, b and c. But as objective as I might be, our opponents are pretty happy when they kill some of our cap ships. Might I say we are pretty happier when we take their systems ? 2isk
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Red Desire
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:41:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Vile rat The best part of this is watching everybody get mad because it's not bothering us at all.
"Dammit why aren't you angry so we can point and laugh!" We've already answered this, it's because we accomplished our objectives and are satisfied with the result. gg nm.
My dog is still laughing and I now I see my cat begun to laugh to ... wth everybody in this world is laughing???!??
HA HA !! (get it?, ha ha?)
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:43:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Red Desire HA HA !!
Bye alt. 2isk
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:45:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn PEP Talk
Well if all that is correct how come your alliance leader says he will cancel his account if he doesnt get reimbursed?
Pot ---> Kettle
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:48:00 -
[247]
WAIT I DONT GET IT. ARE WE ARGUING OVER WHO HAD MORE FUN NOW?
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:49:00 -
[248]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn PEP Talk
Well if all that is correct how come your alliance leader says he will cancel his account if he doesnt get reimbursed?
Pot ---> Kettle
I'm happy, we fight IQ 80 in PR. 2isk
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 13:52:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn PEP Talk
Well if all that is correct how come your alliance leader says he will cancel his account if he doesnt get reimbursed?
Pot ---> Kettle
HOW COME THERE ARE NO GOONS? HOW COME WE HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO BUILD UP IN 0.0 AGAIN? DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS LINE OF REASONING IS GOING? ASKING RHETORICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT PREVIOUS GRANDIOSE STATEMENTS MADE BY PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM IS AN UNORIGINAL AND UNMOTIVATED METHOD OF PASSIVE AGGRESIVE TROLLING.
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Seldarine
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:03:00 -
[250]
I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ? ______________________________
Seldarine
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Yazoul Samaiel
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:03:00 -
[251]
Originally by: NO BRAKES
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Kweel Nakashyn PEP Talk
Well if all that is correct how come your alliance leader says he will cancel his account if he doesnt get reimbursed?
Pot ---> Kettle
HOW COME THERE ARE NO GOONS? HOW COME WE HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO BUILD UP IN 0.0 AGAIN? DO YOU SEE WHERE THIS LINE OF REASONING IS GOING? ASKING RHETORICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT PREVIOUS GRANDIOSE STATEMENTS MADE BY PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM IS AN UNORIGINAL AND UNMOTIVATED METHOD OF PASSIVE AGGRESIVE TROLLING.
Ohh dear ... we need a medic this gooni is about to pop 
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Maksiim
Doom and Gloom
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:07:00 -
[252]
So much anger....Goons must let it all out....feed the cauldron of hate.
FanFest is for... |

Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:11:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Seldarine I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Everything we know we learned from Mactep.
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:15:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Vile rat
Everything we know we learned from Mactep.
MACTEP didnt deserve such insult  me, myself and I ------> |

Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:16:00 -
[255]
Originally by: Red Desire
I now see everybody is dog and cat in this world I My still laughing laughing???!?? my to laugh begun to ... wth is
HA HA !! (get it?, ha ha?)
No I don't. Your gibberish is mind boggling alt. I can barely read a thing you type.
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Kweel Nakashyn
Minmatar Aeden Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:16:00 -
[256]
Edited by: Kweel Nakashyn on 23/09/2007 14:21:01
Originally by: Seldarine I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Now I'm happier because we figth sometimes IQ 120 in PR \o/ To your concern, I'd ask a question : what about RISE, your ally, then ? They loose ships, fights and they are told "it's ok, don't bother". I also don't agree, there, when you say we loose every single day... omist fights were are not failures. Rise's fights were not failure. Feyth starts like a failure but battle don't make wars.
My ennemy's point of vue about Bob's command : they target easy fights just to motivate members. They have a problem in seeing in long term. They invoke luck.
Prove me wrong, it'll be okay. But there is a slight problem if I'm asking myself the question. Another thing that changed in six monthes : I feared "Magic Bob"... Now "Normal Bob" is just another Alliance like anyone. 2isk
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Dagam
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:17:00 -
[257]
Edited by: Dagam on 23/09/2007 14:23:48
Originally by: Seldarine I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Seldarine, goons turn up for fleet battles in the numbers they do because they want to, not because they're forced to in order to stay in their alliance or to impress their pubbie masters. They don't pay their subscription to "win PvP fights" and maybe you have trouble comprehending this but some people play EVE because it's fun. Fun being to ruin you guys.
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Eleanorr
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:22:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Maksiim So much anger....Goons must let it all out....feed the cauldron of hate.
I swear there cannot be another group with as low self esteem in real life as the goons.
How did they get so bitter and obssessed?
WE'RE ONLY PLAYING THIS GAME TILL WE KILL BOB? Yeh ok. How about you go outside instead. And please stop constantly talking about yourselves as if you are of immense importance and interest to everyone else. Plenty of people play this game and don't know or care what you think.
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:24:00 -
[259]
I'm certain I have previously made a damn good quote about winning battles and losing wars...
..but I'm too damn lazy to google my good stuff.
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Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Eleanorr
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:25:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Dagam Edited by: Dagam on 23/09/2007 14:18:29
Originally by: Seldarine I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Seldarine, goons turn up for fleet battles in the numbers they do because they want to, not because they're forced to in order to stay in their alliance or to impress their pubbie masters. They don't pay their subscription to "win PvP fights" and maybe you have trouble comprehending this but some people play EVE because it's fun.
Think you got it the wrong way round.
Playing to win pvp fights is the fun in EVE. Losing them is not so much fun.
It's people circle jerking over how many undefended POS towers they kill that's funny 
ps. Who cares about "pubbie masters". Go outside you loser, you are playing space game.
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Faichan Kangri
We Know Derek Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:26:00 -
[261]
I think everyones missing the point.
BoB didn't actually lose any stations, so this is in fact a flawless victory for them.
Oh, sorry pets, shame about your stations but you don't count...
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Vile rat
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:26:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Eleanorr
Originally by: Maksiim So much anger....Goons must let it all out....feed the cauldron of hate.
I swear there cannot be another group with as low self esteem in real life as the goons.
How did they get so bitter and obssessed?
WE'RE ONLY PLAYING THIS GAME TILL WE KILL BOB? Yeh ok. How about you go outside instead. And please stop constantly talking about yourselves as if you are of immense importance and interest to everyone else. Plenty of people play this game and don't know or care what you think.
The fear, it tastes like strawberries!
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:31:00 -
[263]
Originally by: Eleanorr Playing to win pvp fights is the fun in EVE. Losing them is not so much fun.
At least for me, it's been a long time since Eve is fun. I jump into a system, I lag for 5 minutes trying to load grid, I manage to turn on a module, for a further 20 minutes I zip around the grid trying to lock someone, the fight ends (possibly with me dying in the process). That's Eve's endgame.
I'm sure there are people out there who still believe in the game, but for me, Eve's entertainment value has very little to do with spaceships any more. However, I still enjoy my time here; in Eve the fun is what you make of the metagame (I don't mean spying, I mean everything around the game: community, forums, friends and chat), because the game fails to deliver so hard.
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Ramlir
0.0 Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:33:00 -
[264]
Edited by: Ramlir on 23/09/2007 14:34:19
Originally by: Eleanorr
Think you got it the wrong way round.
Playing to win pvp fights is the fun in EVE. Losing them is not so much fun.
It's people circle jerking over how many undefended POS towers they kill that's funny 
ps. Who cares about "pubbie masters". Go outside you loser, you are playing space game.
Who's fault is it that the POS go down undefended? Perhaps if the goons split into two teams and one roleplayed BoB in the downing of the POS you'd be happy? Woops, you're just a BoB pet, your happiness is of no concern in game and out.
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Darkstar BP
Caldari eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:35:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Seldarine
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Some of us like to have breakfast in RIT Others prefer a light lunch in AZN Lots of folks enjoy a hearty high tea in TPAR But everybody, their grandmother and the kitchensink would like to dine in NOL.
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Cippalippus Primus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:40:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Darkstar BP
Originally by: Seldarine
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Some of us like to have breakfast in RIT Others prefer a light lunch in AZN Lots of folks enjoy a hearty high tea in TPAR But everybody, their grandmother and the kitchensink would like to dine in NOL.
lollin
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Taraken
Caldari SGL
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:45:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:46:00 -
[268]
Originally by: Darkstar BP
Originally by: Seldarine
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Some of us like to have breakfast in RIT Others prefer a light lunch in AZN Lots of folks enjoy a hearty high tea in TPAR But everybody, their grandmother and the kitchensink would like to dine in NOL.
win. ---
planetary interaction idea! |

bigfatbird
Seven. Enuma Elish.
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Posted - 2007.09.23 14:57:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Tannach Stations can be taken back (sacrificing your forces just to capture ground isnt the best way to win the war).
Stations can also be hold in the first place, but since you are Ex ISS I understand that this concept may be new to you. 
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:03:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
The above is basically what I have been thinking as I read this thread. The "I was drunk" excuse and the "It wasn't me, it was my Brother using my account" excuses are both just about as bad. If I was the fleet commander who lead that slaughter I would be ashamed of myself and feel terible for costing those flying under me their hard earned ships and modules, and not laughing about it like it doesn't really matter and making lame excuses for my poor judgement and decision making during the battle in question.
Rhaegor Stormborn Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated [PIA] Recruitment Thread |

Ahistaja
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:11:00 -
[271]
Goons are just as suicidal in their battleships supercapitals as in their t1 frigates.

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Tearavygh Quillam
Caldari Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:14:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Seldarine I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
Did Molle change his Eve resolution? No more total world domination, no more lowsec invasion plans?
People with short memory for the win...
How long should we wait before the average BoB member comes spewing on these forums? Or you just didn't save enough face for now?
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Sharcana
MASS Ministry Of Amarrian Secret Service
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:15:00 -
[273]
Edited by: Sharcana on 23/09/2007 15:15:33
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
oh no you didnt really go there did you
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:18:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Seldarine I understand your point Vile Rat that you have accomplished your objectives and I also understand your whole " we are loosing our way through feyth " thing where even though you loose more ships you still take space through your whole we dont care about ships attitude.
One thing I dont understand though is that we all pay the same for our subscriptions, so at the end of the day our investments in eve are the same. For my money I would rather have fun in pvp by winning pvp fights rather than loosing every single day and then being told by my leaders that its cool and doesnt matter cos we have another internet spacestation at the end of the day.
The only way you can actually become better at pvp is by having something tangable to loose. You and other goon leaders may be happy to "loose your way through feyth" but do all your allies think the same ?
I'm just curious but how much of your alliance do you think is gonna flee overnight when we take a station in pb or delve?
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:20:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Eleanorr
Originally by: Maksiim So much anger....Goons must let it all out....feed the cauldron of hate.
I swear there cannot be another group with as low self esteem in real life as the goons.
How did they get so bitter and obssessed?
WE'RE ONLY PLAYING THIS GAME TILL WE KILL BOB? Yeh ok. How about you go outside instead. And please stop constantly talking about yourselves as if you are of immense importance and interest to everyone else. Plenty of people play this game and don't know or care what you think.
I PRETTY MUCH THINK ABOUT THEM WHEN I HAVE TO TAKE A CRAP.
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Mr Digs
Tyranny INC
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:31:00 -
[276]
Did Ebaytolon lose another ship?
He's worse than me..
oh well go buy another one there only $2,000 on Ebay
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.23 15:35:00 -
[277]
Edited by: Local Her0 on 23/09/2007 15:36:03 i want to thank goons and all their allies for the party they brought to bobits last night. In days where bob capital blobs sit silent in front of the gooninvaded stationsystems and dont dare to take em on while they kill poses and get drunk it is especialy important to bring some fun to them. to build up their moral (for bob-moral listen to rise-pep-talk) so the great eve-war becomes alittle more fun for the alliance again.
thank you
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Yaay
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.23 16:03:00 -
[278]
2 goons our spy overheard:
Fry: I heard one time you single handedly defeated a horde of rampaging somethings in the something something system. Zapp: The Killbots? A trifle. It was simply a matter of outsmarting them. Fry: Wow, I never would've thought of that. Zapp: You see the killbots have a preset kill limit; knowing their weakness I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shutdown.
Kif !!!
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Erik Amirault
Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 16:05:00 -
[279]
Man it must really infuriate you guys that you cant beat us even when we take losses. It must be even more maddening to know you can't protect your women (RMF/RISE etc.)
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JeanPaul Sartre
26th of July Movement
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Posted - 2007.09.23 16:28:00 -
[280]
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho? --
Quote: If a victory is told in detail, one can no longer distinguish it from a defeat.
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Local Her0
Minmatar La Mancha Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.23 16:37:00 -
[281]
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
lol? back to school jeanpaulsatre
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 17:00:00 -
[282]
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
No, I changed my mind this is the best post
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 17:00:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
No, I changed my mind this is the best post
OK you're right, that's the best post.
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Kaldaine
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 17:37:00 -
[284]
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
The US defeated the combined French and Russian forces at the battle of Thermopylae, driving them back into Africa from where they came.
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Alias11
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 17:57:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Kaldaine
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
The US defeated the combined French and Russian forces at the battle of Thermopylae, driving them back into Africa from where they came.
But not before Captain America took a brainbug captive on planet P with the help of general sherman
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.23 18:14:00 -
[286]
Originally by: HotSeat Edited by: HotSeat on 23/09/2007 10:17:23 If we are going to get into total caps kills / looses against Bob & pets, you should include RA,TCF, PL etc vs Bob + friends.
PL alone has killed about 50 caps, including a MS. One fight doesn't show the whole picture.
Even so looks like we had a very bad night, congrats to Bob, and no more caps op's with Suas drunk 
You're not allowed to count BoB's allies capship losses, silly.
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 18:57:00 -
[287]
Edited by: Xrensa on 23/09/2007 18:57:25 Don't think anyone has pointed this out, but that mothership was worth about as much as the loot we scooped from shrike XD
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Martin VanBuren
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.23 19:08:00 -
[288]
Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 23/09/2007 19:08:43 Edited by: Martin VanBuren on 23/09/2007 19:08:22
Originally by: Alias11
Originally by: Kaldaine
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
The US defeated the combined French and Russian forces at the battle of Thermopylae, driving them back into Africa from where they came.
But not before Captain America took a brainbug captive on planet P with the help of general sherman
Whose blood was then distilled into super soldier serum through the combined efforts of Professor Oak and Louis Pasteur
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Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.23 20:11:00 -
[289]
Professor Oak touched in ways I simply cannot even begin to explain
Here be carebears! |

Shoukei
Boobs Ahoy
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Posted - 2007.09.23 23:34:00 -
[290]
its funny how coalition quickly denounced d2 after their demise. now they are even trying to rename themselves, just to get more distance from the titan loss and numerous cap ship losses during that time.
here be signatures! |

Oofig VanDoogan
The Knighthawks FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.24 00:12:00 -
[291]
Originally by: Shoukei its funny how coalition quickly denounced d2 after their demise. now they are even trying to rename themselves, just to get more distance from the titan loss and numerous cap ship losses during that time.
Just, lol.
Here be carebears! |

Troubadour
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.24 02:21:00 -
[292]
Edited by: Troubadour on 24/09/2007 02:21:19 GJ holding the system I guess... Even though you would of probably still held it without leeroying into them on the other side.
Hope it was worth it, you kinda need all the caps you can get against MC/BoB/RISE.
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Xrensa
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 02:46:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Troubadour Edited by: Troubadour on 24/09/2007 02:21:19 GJ holding the system I guess... Even though you would of probably still held it without leeroying into them on the other side.
Hope it was worth it, you kinda need all the caps you can get against MC/BoB/RISE.
The plan would have worked if we hadn't primaried motherships that we couldn't tackle. But oh well. Hurts to lose that much but our combined cap fleet is larger than theirs anyway.
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Zylatis
Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.24 03:32:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Kaldaine
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
The US defeated the combined French and Russian forces at the battle of Thermopylae, driving them back into Africa from where they came.
You, sir, win EVE.
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Zucarito
Gallente Ultrapolite Socialites GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 05:01:00 -
[295]
Edited by: Zucarito on 24/09/2007 05:04:02 Nevermind. Frigates are like old jeep wranglers. If you want a convertable its cheap and just as fun for a fraction of the price. |

ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.24 07:48:00 -
[296]
I'm seeing a bunch of carriers and motherships on the capital killmails, so im going to assume this was another FIGHTER-BLOBS-DONT-LAG victory.
Though I can't say I haven't benefited from this before. One time I lagged out in a dominix during a level 4 mission, and when I could finally log back in, mission completed.
I see this is the new McBob tactic. Hey, its smart imo. 1) You can count on fleet battles being giant lag fests, especially if you've got 1000 drones deployed. 2) Ships that require players to be able to play the game will lag out and be ineffective. 3) Drones don't lag and never have to reload.
I'm through criticizing McBob for this tactic, its just smart. Its the evolution of tactics. If I were RSF I'd employ the same tactic, if they can somehow find enough carrier pilots.
Its just kind of sad that these artificial limitations of lag have to get in the way of nearly every other ship/tactic at this scale of engagements. You'd figure dreadnaughts would be the ones to shine, and they would, if not for the lag.
Because posting on the forums is serious business. |

Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.24 08:43:00 -
[297]
From what I read this was indeed a lag-victory, I wont go into what produced the lag as its counter productive.
I really wonder how CCP thinks that an alliance (or multiple) can take down 7+ MS 20+ carriers and 20-40 dreads assaulting a system (or in this case camping one) without the servers going all haywire. ---
Dev's give us a lag-update! |

Morpheus Solo
Minmatar Koshaku Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:23:00 -
[298]
Edited by: Morpheus Solo on 24/09/2007 09:24:58 BOB AAR report from ZID is available at www.eve-spirit.com. Written by SirMolle himself.
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Kusotarre
Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:33:00 -
[299]
Originally by: ForumPosterAlt I'm through criticizing McBob for this tactic, its just smart. Its the evolution of tactics. If I were RSF I'd employ the same tactic, if they can somehow find enough carrier pilots.
Its just kind of sad that these artificial limitations of lag have to get in the way of nearly every other ship/tactic at this scale of engagements. You'd figure dreadnaughts would be the ones to shine, and they would, if not for the lag.
That's essentially what I pointed out after the BKG cap-killing, although that was on a smaller scale than this.
Lag - and in it's extreme form node death - has now become a tactical decision.
If a large enemy is going to jump into you with less than node-killing numbers, it is an effective strategy to deploy fighters. If you are going to jump into a fighter-blob, it is an effective strategy to bring node-death numbers and mop up the enemy capitals after the node reset.
Welcome to Meta Gaming Online.
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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:37:00 -
[300]
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
Yes, the Americans won the war by them selfs, go to school and reed the history pathetic one.

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Tarantelita
Ragna Rok Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.24 09:38:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Kaldaine
Originally by: JeanPaul Sartre
Originally by: Taraken
Originally by: Red Desire Look at me I'm laughing - ha ha - we all laughing - ha ha - we all play this game to loose capital ships and conquer stations - ha ha - We are so special, we laugh when we loose stuff hahahaha ... actually guys, you're quite pathetic in trying to turn this major loss and keep your morale up. OMG i'm laughing, check my avatar his laughing also !!! My dog is laughing also lol lol
Bitter? Time to turn off the computer and have a walk?
On the other hand i see a classic Russian WWII tactic here. Guess all those millions dead didn't matter but they still raised the flag in Berlin at the end.
But yeah the only important thing at the end of the day is that you guys are having fun doing all this pew pew... 
Excellent post. Didnt the Americans win WW2 tho?
The US defeated the combined French and Russian forces at the battle of Thermopylae, driving them back into Africa from where they came.
I almost never see funny people in here, good one 

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thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.24 10:01:00 -
[302]
Originally by: Barthezz From what I read this was indeed a lag-victory, I wont go into what produced the lag as its counter productive.
It's not likely to be the 2 large fleets fighting, that would never cause lag...
 _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Skye Cloud
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.09.24 10:34:00 -
[303]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Barthezz From what I read this was indeed a lag-victory, I wont go into what produced the lag as its counter productive.
It's not likely to be the 2 large fleets fighting, that would never cause lag...

hello,
i think the overall point that is trying to be made here is that -
yes taking lots of people to battle causes lag
but
taking just carrier/mom/drone ships to the lag battle is best as they keep shooting disregarding lagging of players etc
So where the goons/reds/everyone else still take the normal big fleets to big fights, mix's of everything etc. Hoping for a good decent lag free fight. Bob seems to have gone all meta game on this and is just taking carrier/mom blobs as they work best when very laggy.
And by some reports these carrier/mom blobs seem to generate more lag, in turn raising their effectiveness.
Now no faulting the thinking, take what is best for the job.
Just means everyone else is going to be doing it from this week onwards seeing how it seems to work so well.
yay 
luv
sc
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Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.24 11:33:00 -
[304]
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Barthezz From what I read this was indeed a lag-victory, I wont go into what produced the lag as its counter productive.
It's not likely to be the 2 large fleets fighting, that would never cause lag...
Dont people get that currently if you look at (for example) RSF vs McBob 's capital fleets your looking at way over 80 capitals on each side (max turnout).
That the capital fleet on each side will usually bring four times as many support (if not more), that the state of the server does not allow you to fight those numbers with the tools that eve gives us. That this issue increases each month where more and more people on each side get into capitals.
I dont see how CCP can honestly expect true alliance warfare to happen in eve if something isnt done. Yesterday McBob was in fat taking down pos's on a 'skeleton crew' (as they put it) which was 3-5 MS, 15 or so carriers and 10-20 dreads (and about 100-150 in local).
How on earth can you combat those numbers of capitals without completely and utterly lagging out a node? In most cases the fleet that jumps in / warps in is worst off, so a stand-off usually occurs.
If anything, mad props for RSF to jump into ZID, I probably wouldnt have made that call if I was FC and this is the second time they have done it.
But I would really like all alliances which are facing the lag issue to stand up to CCP and tell them they should fix the bloody game instead of adding 20 more battleships. Lag is ruining a great part of eve. ---
Dev's give us a lag-update! |

thoth foc
Arcane Technologies The Five
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Posted - 2007.09.24 11:35:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Skye Cloud
Originally by: thoth foc
Originally by: Barthezz From what I read this was indeed a lag-victory, I wont go into what produced the lag as its counter productive.
It's not likely to be the 2 large fleets fighting, that would never cause lag...

hello,
i think the overall point that is trying to be made here is that -
yes taking lots of people to battle causes lag
but
taking just carrier/mom/drone ships to the lag battle is best as they keep shooting disregarding lagging of players etc
hello,
That may be the overall point of the post, it doesent make it correct or particularly relevant.. fleet fights lag without fighters, moms and carriers just as much..
lag exists because of blobs which is a game design and architecture issue.. at the minute lag is the only discouragement to blobbing until the nodes explode..
Maybe you are too new to remember the last drone nerf.. fleet fights lagged again within weeks of it.. until blobbing is discouraged again fleet numbers will easily keep up with whatever minor hardware/software changes are made.. _________________________ xMenta (DSMA) xBOS (CA) ATUK (.5.) DICE (BOB) Elcyion Lacar
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Barthezz
Paradox v2.0 Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.24 11:45:00 -
[306]
Originally by: thoth foc That may be the overall point of the post, it doesent make it correct or particularly relevant.. fleet fights lag without fighters, moms and carriers just as much..
lag exists because of blobs which is a game design and architecture issue.. at the minute lag is the only discouragement to blobbing until the nodes explode..
Maybe you are too new to remember the last drone nerf.. fleet fights lagged again within weeks of it.. until blobbing is discouraged again fleet numbers will easily keep up with whatever minor hardware/software changes are made..
The fact is that it'll only get worse. Capitals require bigger blobs to combat. And whatever upgrade is done might indeed again be defeated within weeks / months / whatever causing the lag to appear yet again but perhaps then at 500 vs 500.
So in the end it doesnt matter, SOMETHING has to be done and that something isnt up to the players its up to CCP, it can be anything from disallowing more then x people per corp to jump into a system (bad idea, but it is an idea) to whatever. That whatever is something CCP needs to (imho) discuss about preferably with the people most effected (big alliances).
However ignoring the issue and blaming each other on the forums (again) for the lag 'they produced' is stupid and shouldnt happen in a GAME (you know something you PLAY for FUN). ---
Dev's give us a lag-update! |

Ambre Blanche
ICE is Coming to EVE Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.24 12:19:00 -
[307]
Originally by: Barthezz
Dont people get that currently if you look at (for example) RSF vs McBob 's capital fleets your looking at way over 80 capitals on each side (max turnout).
That the capital fleet on each side will usually bring four times as many support (if not more), that the state of the server does not allow you to fight those numbers with the tools that eve gives us. That this issue increases each month where more and more people on each side get into capitals.
I dont see how CCP can honestly expect true alliance warfare to happen in eve if something isnt done. Yesterday McBob was in fat taking down pos's on a 'skeleton crew' (as they put it) which was 3-5 MS, 15 or so carriers and 10-20 dreads (and about 100-150 in local).
How on earth can you combat those numbers of capitals without completely and utterly lagging out a node? In most cases the fleet that jumps in / warps in is worst off, so a stand-off usually occurs.
If anything, mad props for RSF to jump into ZID, I probably wouldnt have made that call if I was FC and this is the second time they have done it.
But I would really like all alliances which are facing the lag issue to stand up to CCP and tell them they should fix the bloody game instead of adding 20 more battleships. Lag is ruining a great part of eve.
Couldn't say it better. As long as CCP is desilusional about the fact they HAVE to limit the amount of ships that can fight in a single system, we will see this kind of sucky "victory" more and more. Why do you think Blizzard limited it's larger PvP Battleground to 80 people max? Because we are paying to have fun! So do something now CCP and stop to bull**** old and new players alike with your "Need for Speed Initiative" :(
Thank you, Ambre.
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Diehard Si
UK1 Zero Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:01:00 -
[308]
Goons were filling up 2-r with the usual t1 frigs etc to try and cause a lag fest for when we jumped in.
We didn't.
Goons then decided to attack us ( we were not actually setup for camping, people were trying to get out of the incoming doomsday).
We won.
On the day it was smart leadership from BOB and complete folly from Goons.... so nothing new there then.
If there had been less lag then the superior firepower of allied forces would of prob shone through anyway as the goons cheap ships got popped off. --------------------------------------
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Pnuka
Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:12:00 -
[309]
Originally by: Diehard Si Goons were filling up 2-r with the usual t1 frigs etc to try and cause a lag fest for when we jumped in.
We didn't.
Goons then decided to attack us ( we were not actually setup for camping, people were trying to get out of the incoming doomsday).
We won.
On the day it was smart leadership from BOB and complete folly from Goons.... so nothing new there then.
If there had been less lag then the superior firepower of allied forces would of prob shone through anyway as the goons cheap ships got popped off.

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Papa Ina
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:25:00 -
[310]
Edited by: Papa Ina on 24/09/2007 13:27:14
Originally by: Diehard Si Goons were filling up 2-r with the usual t1 frigs etc to try and cause a lag fest for when we jumped in.
We didn't.
Goons then decided to attack us ( we were not actually setup for camping, people were trying to get out of the incoming doomsday).
We won.
On the day it was smart leadership from BOB and complete folly from Goons.... so nothing new there then.
If there had been less lag then the superior firepower of allied forces would of prob shone through anyway as the goons cheap ships got popped off.
I saw some RMF in t1 frigates yesterday. What the hell were they doing on the battlefield, everyone knows they have nothing to offer. (That's RMF I mean, not the t1 frigates, as atleast t1 frigs are useful for something)
Actually that's not fair. RMF can sometimes fight. With a BoB FC.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:41:00 -
[311]
Edited by: Nlewis on 24/09/2007 13:42:42
Originally by: Diehard Si Goons were filling up 2-r with the usual t1 frigs etc to try and cause a lag fest for when we jumped in.
We didn't.
Goons then decided to attack us ( we were not actually setup for camping, people were trying to get out of the incoming doomsday).
We won.
On the day it was smart leadership from BOB and complete folly from Goons.... so nothing new there then.
If there had been less lag then the superior firepower of allied forces would of prob shone through anyway as the goons cheap ships got popped off.
1. img-timeline 2. lol t1 frigs, why doesn't RMF undock?(well other than you guys trying to sneak your stuff out). you should be able to kill all of us then.
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corporal hicks
Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.24 13:59:00 -
[312]
Originally by: Ambre Blanche
Originally by: Barthezz
Dont people get that currently if you look at (for example) RSF vs McBob 's capital fleets your looking at way over 80 capitals on each side (max turnout).
That the capital fleet on each side will usually bring four times as many support (if not more), that the state of the server does not allow you to fight those numbers with the tools that eve gives us. That this issue increases each month where more and more people on each side get into capitals.
I dont see how CCP can honestly expect true alliance warfare to happen in eve if something isnt done. Yesterday McBob was in fat taking down pos's on a 'skeleton crew' (as they put it) which was 3-5 MS, 15 or so carriers and 10-20 dreads (and about 100-150 in local).
How on earth can you combat those numbers of capitals without completely and utterly lagging out a node? In most cases the fleet that jumps in / warps in is worst off, so a stand-off usually occurs.
If anything, mad props for RSF to jump into ZID, I probably wouldnt have made that call if I was FC and this is the second time they have done it.
But I would really like all alliances which are facing the lag issue to stand up to CCP and tell them they should fix the bloody game instead of adding 20 more battleships. Lag is ruining a great part of eve.
Couldn't say it better. As long as CCP is desilusional about the fact they HAVE to limit the amount of ships that can fight in a single system, we will see this kind of sucky "victory" more and more. Why do you think Blizzard limited it's larger PvP Battleground to 80 people max? Because we are paying to have fun! So do something now CCP and stop to bull**** old and new players alike with your "Need for Speed Initiative" :(
Thank you, Ambre.
While a interesting idea that might stop the lag blobs it would also cause more whining and grief as say a limit of 100 ships in system is implemented as long as a hostile alliance has a 75% majority of ships in system it will be very hard to combat them. and they can rotate pilots in and out and keep the system locked down totally.
Also Alliance mining operations would be very hard to distrupt by enemies with a alliance just needing to make sure it has 100 people in the system to make there ops invunrable to attack.
There is no easy solution, alliance v Alliance warfare needs dreads to take down the pos, dreads need carriers in support and carriers and dreads need battleships/cruisers/frigs ect in support so work the numbers.
so really no point complaining about things, its up to the players themselves, the enemy has 50 in system ok lets bring 50-60 and fight them..err no wait lets bring 300 and fight, great idea anyone for a slideshow?
" Stay Frosty "
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Cupdeez
Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.24 14:26:00 -
[313]
We are on rotation. Goons loose some capships big deal cause the other alliances in the fight still have some.
Maybe CA will be the next alliance in the bunch to lose come capital ships to BOB. Then we can rotate to IAC, TCF, and then possibly to RA.
We all love to share!!
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 14:36:00 -
[314]
Originally by: Diehard Si Goons were filling up 2-r with the usual t1 frigs etc to try and cause a lag fest for when we jumped in.
We didn't.
Goons then decided to attack us ( we were not actually setup for camping, people were trying to get out of the incoming doomsday).
We won.
On the day it was smart leadership from BOB and complete folly from Goons.... so nothing new there then.
If there had been less lag then the superior firepower of allied forces would of prob shone through anyway as the goons cheap ships got popped off.
GOOD TO SEE THAT YOU AND ENSLAVER SHARE IDENTICAL DEFINITIONS OF WINNING. SUP 1V-.
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 14:57:00 -
[315]
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Ambre Blanche
Originally by: Barthezz
Dont people get that currently if you look at (for example) RSF vs McBob 's capital fleets your looking at way over 80 capitals on each side (max turnout).
That the capital fleet on each side will usually bring four times as many support (if not more), that the state of the server does not allow you to fight those numbers with the tools that eve gives us. That this issue increases each month where more and more people on each side get into capitals.
I dont see how CCP can honestly expect true alliance warfare to happen in eve if something isnt done. Yesterday McBob was in fat taking down pos's on a 'skeleton crew' (as they put it) which was 3-5 MS, 15 or so carriers and 10-20 dreads (and about 100-150 in local).
How on earth can you combat those numbers of capitals without completely and utterly lagging out a node? In most cases the fleet that jumps in / warps in is worst off, so a stand-off usually occurs.
If anything, mad props for RSF to jump into ZID, I probably wouldnt have made that call if I was FC and this is the second time they have done it.
But I would really like all alliances which are facing the lag issue to stand up to CCP and tell them they should fix the bloody game instead of adding 20 more battleships. Lag is ruining a great part of eve.
Couldn't say it better. As long as CCP is desilusional about the fact they HAVE to limit the amount of ships that can fight in a single system, we will see this kind of sucky "victory" more and more. Why do you think Blizzard limited it's larger PvP Battleground to 80 people max? Because we are paying to have fun! So do something now CCP and stop to bull**** old and new players alike with your "Need for Speed Initiative" :(
Thank you, Ambre.
While a interesting idea that might stop the lag blobs it would also cause more whining and grief as say a limit of 100 ships in system is implemented as long as a hostile alliance has a 75% majority of ships in system it will be very hard to combat them. and they can rotate pilots in and out and keep the system locked down totally.
Also Alliance mining operations would be very hard to distrupt by enemies with a alliance just needing to make sure it has 100 people in the system to make there ops invunrable to attack.
There is no easy solution, alliance v Alliance warfare needs dreads to take down the pos, dreads need carriers in support and carriers and dreads need battleships/cruisers/frigs ect in support so work the numbers.
so really no point complaining about things, its up to the players themselves, the enemy has 50 in system ok lets bring 50-60 and fight them..err no wait lets bring 300 and fight, great idea anyone for a slideshow?
The whole lynchpin of sovereignty warfare is the POS. Change that and the whole dynamic of war changes. Do it right and you can even reduce blobs IMO.
The whole concept of blobs and sovereignty was introduced to prevent station pingpong. What if we stopped making POS the one determining factor in sovereignty, and introduce a system where actual USE of a system is a much greater factor in sovereignty.
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.24 15:41:00 -
[316]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: corporal hicks
Originally by: Ambre Blanche
Originally by: Barthezz
Dont people get that currently if you look at (for example) RSF vs McBob 's capital fleets your looking at way over 80 capitals on each side (max turnout).
That the capital fleet on each side will usually bring four times as many support (if not more), that the state of the server does not allow you to fight those numbers with the tools that eve gives us. That this issue increases each month where more and more people on each side get into capitals.
I dont see how CCP can honestly expect true alliance warfare to happen in eve if something isnt done. Yesterday McBob was in fat taking down pos's on a 'skeleton crew' (as they put it) which was 3-5 MS, 15 or so carriers and 10-20 dreads (and about 100-150 in local).
How on earth can you combat those numbers of capitals without completely and utterly lagging out a node? In most cases the fleet that jumps in / warps in is worst off, so a stand-off usually occurs.
If anything, mad props for RSF to jump into ZID, I probably wouldnt have made that call if I was FC and this is the second time they have done it.
But I would really like all alliances which are facing the lag issue to stand up to CCP and tell them they should fix the bloody game instead of adding 20 more battleships. Lag is ruining a great part of eve.
Couldn't say it better. As long as CCP is desilusional about the fact they HAVE to limit the amount of ships that can fight in a single system, we will see this kind of sucky "victory" more and more. Why do you think Blizzard limited it's larger PvP Battleground to 80 people max? Because we are paying to have fun! So do something now CCP and stop to bull**** old and new players alike with your "Need for Speed Initiative" :(
Thank you, Ambre.
While a interesting idea that might stop the lag blobs it would also cause more whining and grief as say a limit of 100 ships in system is implemented as long as a hostile alliance has a 75% majority of ships in system it will be very hard to combat them. and they can rotate pilots in and out and keep the system locked down totally.
Also Alliance mining operations would be very hard to distrupt by enemies with a alliance just needing to make sure it has 100 people in the system to make there ops invunrable to attack.
There is no easy solution, alliance v Alliance warfare needs dreads to take down the pos, dreads need carriers in support and carriers and dreads need battleships/cruisers/frigs ect in support so work the numbers.
so really no point complaining about things, its up to the players themselves, the enemy has 50 in system ok lets bring 50-60 and fight them..err no wait lets bring 300 and fight, great idea anyone for a slideshow?
The whole lynchpin of sovereignty warfare is the POS. Change that and the whole dynamic of war changes. Do it right and you can even reduce blobs IMO.
The whole concept of blobs and sovereignty was introduced to prevent station pingpong. What if we stopped making POS the one determining factor in sovereignty, and introduce a system where actual USE of a system is a much greater factor in sovereignty.
How though? I fully support changing the dynamics of sov warfare but they are going to have to come up with a pretty ****in original idea. Just sitting here thinking of ways they could change it, I have no idea whatsoever. it is going to be a long long time until pos warfare is over
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.24 15:44:00 -
[317]
Originally by: Nlewis
How though? I fully support changing the dynamics of sov warfare but they are going to have to come up with a pretty ****in original idea. Just sitting here thinking of ways they could change it, I have no idea whatsoever. it is going to be a long long time until pos warfare is over
The game already tracks certain elements, such as sec increases for killing rats. Based on that I could imagine giving a tiny 'sovereignty increase' for the same activity and expand it to other activities as well. I worked out the full idea on the Features and Ideas forum as its not an appropriate subject here, but I got a link in my sig.
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.09.24 20:35:00 -
[318]
I have an itch on my left arm. 
Sweet love for the ones that mod my sig <3  From her? You're on. -Rauth |

Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.24 20:42:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Darcuese The best part is that even along the RA and rest of your friends you still keep losing battles over and over, even though most of your chars have enough SP (at this time) to properly run BS or even capitals, you have more then enough numbers, etc,etc. And since majority of simple pilots play this game for pure PvP, it put smiles on our faces over and over again.
Props to acomplishing your objective though
Remember when ATUK had its own empire?
Remember when goon fleet had its OWN empire?
Oh wait, it belonged to serpentis.
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.24 21:01:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Cupdeez We are on rotation. Goons loose some capships big deal cause the other alliances in the fight still have some.
Maybe CA will be the next alliance in the bunch to lose come capital ships to BOB. Then we can rotate to IAC, TCF, and then possibly to RA.
We all love to share!!
You guys have a couple capital ships? Maybe one day you can get your own cloning station too!
Like 0-W that is so ****e nobody wanted to fuel so we dumped it off on you-or tried to dump it off on CA and nobody could even figure how to deploy or afford a pos.
P.S. Yes my main was RA at the time. Check forum/employment history.
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.24 21:02:00 -
[321]
Originally by: Taj Zela
Originally by: Cringeley
Originally by: Darcuese The best part is that even along the RA and rest of your friends you still keep losing battles over and over, even though most of your chars have enough SP (at this time) to properly run BS or even capitals, you have more then enough numbers, etc,etc. And since majority of simple pilots play this game for pure PvP, it put smiles on our faces over and over again.
Props to acomplishing your objective though
Remember when ATUK had its own empire?
Remember when goon fleet had its OWN empire?
Oh wait, it belonged to serpentis.
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violator2k5
Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.25 13:24:00 -
[322]
Originally by: Tayler Derden we have balls to jump into hostile camp even if we all can die bob dont have balls to do it its all.
i believe you need to get a recap of the situation instead of making stupid comments like that. We jumped into 9-9 several times when Goons + whoever else were there with the majority of the gates bubbled up while maintaining larger numbers then that of our fleet and also using the fighter swarm too.
anyway shouldnt you be in your cov-ops ship looking for more 10/10's 
cant say much about the fight that happened in ZID as i was away RL n all that, but with the amount of cap's lost im wondering how many more cap's can RSF keep chucking into the field if a few more battles like this happens ---------------------------- BOB 4 LIFE NOT JUST 4 A DAY ----------------------------
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Nlewis
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.25 13:28:00 -
[323]
Originally by: violator2k5
Originally by: Tayler Derden we have balls to jump into hostile camp even if we all can die bob dont have balls to do it its all.
i believe you need to get a recap of the situation instead of making stupid comments like that. We jumped into 9-9 several times when Goons + whoever else were there with the majority of the gates bubbled up while maintaining larger numbers then that of our fleet and also using the fighter swarm too.
anyway shouldnt you be in your cov-ops ship looking for more 10/10's 
cant say much about the fight that happened in ZID as i was away RL n all that, but with the amount of cap's lost im wondering how many more cap's can RSF keep chucking into the field if a few more battles like this happens
no more caps were broke
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.25 14:25:00 -
[324]
Originally by: violator2k5
Originally by: Tayler Derden we have balls to jump into hostile camp even if we all can die bob dont have balls to do it its all.
i believe you need to get a recap of the situation instead of making stupid comments like that. We jumped into 9-9 several times when Goons + whoever else were there with the majority of the gates bubbled up while maintaining larger numbers then that of our fleet and also using the fighter swarm too.
anyway shouldnt you be in your cov-ops ship looking for more 10/10's 
cant say much about the fight that happened in ZID as i was away RL n all that, but with the amount of cap's lost im wondering how many more cap's can RSF keep chucking into the field if a few more battles like this happens
considering that those losses were far less than what was stolen form evolution not long ago...
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Niraco79
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.25 14:52:00 -
[325]
As i see again the debate about blobs and lag and i actually love big fleets battes, but i hate slideshows (yes somehow i still think a 100 vs 100 is still a large battle) i will write my crazy idea about sov changes.
As i see, all that need to change is the imposed objectives of the battle. In actual system u need to get sov on the target system, putting the towers into reinforced, killing them, onlining your own towers.
What about if instead on this u could actually target an outpost and conquer if u reinforce and destroy a certain number of towers in several target sytems. Each outpost should have let`s say 5 POS`es with a module called "Outpost Power core" (or something more cool if u think of it). U cannot online more than one of each module/system/outpost(but u can have more modules in one system for different outposts). These towers have a low stront bay let`s say max 24 hours, and must kill 4/5 in a certain time frame.
That will ensure a continuous battle in several systems, with multiple engagements, no trench warfare (as the defenders cannot blob only one system cause the attacked have the chance to take the outpost with the 4/5 condition). If this system would be doubled witha server node architecture that will put these systems on different nodes (like one outpost sov pos system/node) we will see more lag free battles.
Even is just an idea, vrey rough and probably with a lot of flaws and not balanced, i still would like to see your oppinion. ________________ THE MEGA NOOB
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.25 16:43:00 -
[326]
Originally by: violator2k5 cant say much about the fight that happened in ZID as i was away RL n all that, but with the amount of cap's lost im wondering how many more cap's can RSF keep chucking into the field if a few more battles like this happens
If 2-R and K-9 fall to RSF, that will more than offset any morale drop if it happened from losing caps. Losing caps is irrelevant, as long as you maintain morale and faith in victory. If 2-R and K-9 fall, I am pretty sure it will boost RSF significantly, and then replacing 40b of capitals becomes pretty doable.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.25 18:03:00 -
[327]
Originally by: Niraco79 As i see again the debate about blobs and lag and i actually love big fleets battes, but i hate slideshows (yes somehow i still think a 100 vs 100 is still a large battle) i will write my crazy idea about sov changes.
As i see, all that need to change is the imposed objectives of the battle. In actual system u need to get sov on the target system, putting the towers into reinforced, killing them, onlining your own towers.
What about if instead on this u could actually target an outpost and conquer if u reinforce and destroy a certain number of towers in several target sytems. Each outpost should have let`s say 5 POS`es with a module called "Outpost Power core" (or something more cool if u think of it). U cannot online more than one of each module/system/outpost(but u can have more modules in one system for different outposts). These towers have a low stront bay let`s say max 24 hours, and must kill 4/5 in a certain time frame.
That will ensure a continuous battle in several systems, with multiple engagements, no trench warfare (as the defenders cannot blob only one system cause the attacked have the chance to take the outpost with the 4/5 condition). If this system would be doubled witha server node architecture that will put these systems on different nodes (like one outpost sov pos system/node) we will see more lag free battles.
Even is just an idea, vrey rough and probably with a lot of flaws and not balanced, i still would like to see your oppinion.
Meh. There's an easy fix. Make it harder to repair stations. If you pull everyone out of your home systems to go invade some space you don't need or really want, there should be a penalty for not having anyone around to defend. If someone takes out your station services, it should be significant, not a small job for a couple of carriers. If someone can sit outside your station for a couple of hours shooting services, you should probably be more focused on securing your own space, rather than attempting to claim "all of 0.0"
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Niraco79
Gallente Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.25 19:36:00 -
[328]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Niraco79 my stuff.
Meh. There's an easy fix. Make it harder to repair stations. If you pull everyone out of your home systems to go invade some space you don't need or really want, there should be a penalty for not having anyone around to defend. If someone takes out your station services, it should be significant, not a small job for a couple of carriers. If someone can sit outside your station for a couple of hours shooting services, you should probably be more focused on securing your own space, rather than attempting to claim "all of 0.0"
i can agree with that but still would not kill blobs as the objective for war would still be 1 system/1,2,3 as long as it takes .... ________________ THE MEGA NOOB
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