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Planktal Kenshao Industries	Posted - 2007.09.23 05:40:00 - [1] Edited by: Planktal on 23/09/2007 05:41:13 I was wondering how big the EVE galaxy is, in light years north to south and east to west?
Kirex Vale Heavy Industries Molotov Coalition	Posted - 2007.09.23 05:48:00 - [2] Using the ingame map and ICSC JumpPlaner, the distance from QYZM-W (Northern most system) to LX5K-W (Probably southern most system? Hard to tell) is about 130 Light years. LBGI-2 (Western most system?) to RT64-C (Eastern most system?) is aprox 105 Light years
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.09.23 06:47:00 - [3] It's big. I mean, really big. You may think going down to the local chemist is a long trip. But I'm talking BIG (not affiliated with the corp). I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
ViolenTUK Gallente Vindicated Exiles	Posted - 2007.09.23 06:53:00 - [4] It is nowhere near big enough. It would be great if it was 150 000 light years across. www.eve-players.com
Captian Internet Lead Bricks	Posted - 2007.09.23 06:54:00 - [5] Originally by: F'nog It's big. I mean, really big. You may think going down to the local chemist is a long trip but thats peanuts to eve. Fixed Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts
zilllii Squirrel Power	Posted - 2007.09.23 07:02:00 - [6] over 5000 solarsystems
cal nereus Bounty Hunter - Dark Legion Brutally Clever Empire	Posted - 2007.09.23 07:07:00 - [7] Edited by: cal nereus on 23/09/2007 07:07:17 Relatively large in comparison to most things. Edit: Or what Kirex said. --- Join BH-DL
Arii Smith Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2007.09.23 07:30:00 - [8] Bigger than Azeroth...
Jack Target Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2007.09.23 07:48:00 - [9] I wonder how long it would take to travel from one side of Eve to the other?
Tar om Minmatar Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 07:57:00 - [10] Originally by: Jack Target I wonder how long it would take to travel from one side of Eve to the other? Grab a shuttle and go find out. There are landmarks around (you can see them on the map) which are really worth visiting. -- DEVS forget EVERYTHING because LAG is the only issue with which you need concern yourselves. www.octavianvanguard.net
Stitcher Caldari legion of qui Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 08:33:00 - [11] EVE: not actually a galaxy. it's only about 150 light years from end-to-end. It's actually a dense star cluster or something. I dunno. Every time we discuss physics in EVE, the devs kill an exotic dancer. Please, think of the exotic dancers. - The game is not the problem. The problem is that you are not adapting to the game.
Wild Rho Amarr Endgame.	Posted - 2007.09.23 09:05:00 - [12] Stitchers correct. The Eve "galaxy" is just the cluster of stars currently linked to the gate network.
Amarria Black Clan Anthraxx	Posted - 2007.09.23 09:21:00 - [13] Originally by: Jack Target I wonder how long it would take to travel from one side of Eve to the other? Well, Back In The Day (sometime during the week after NA release), some buddies and I warped a ship clean out to one of the far corners of the EVE universe. We then set autopilot to the other corner and let it run. It arrived about 4-5 hours later. EVE's gotten bigger since then, so... let's just say a long, long time.
Daeva Vios Ardent Adversary Anvil.	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:04:00 - [14] Originally by: Wild Rho Stitchers correct. The Eve "galaxy" is just the cluster of stars currently linked to the gate network. And if you read up on the Scientific Articles, there's a passable explanation to why this is. It may not be the best science, but it's better than a whole lot of fiction out there.
Jaabaa Minmatar Dental Drilling Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:52:00 - [15] Height / width / depth in km: 741,197,955,161,450 / 904,787,118,922,653 / 142,796,680,242,890 in AU: 4,954,602.31 / 6,048,128.32 / 954,536.85 in ly: 78.34 / 95.64 / 15.09 -- EVE Tools for cell phones and Windows/linux/Mac systems http://evemsp.sourceforge.net/
Fswd	Posted - 2007.09.23 10:59:00 - [16] Originally by: Stitcher EVE: not actually a galaxy. it's only about 150 light years from end-to-end. It's actually a dense star cluster or something. I dunno. Every time we discuss physics in EVE, the devs kill an exotic dancer. Please, think of the exotic dancers. Eve has physics? --- Free exotic dancers for mods that mod my sig Snip Please do not discuss moderation in your signature. -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <-- freebie for you
Ooyama Caldari Fain LLC	Posted - 2007.09.23 11:00:00 - [17] Not certain in lightyears,, but whould 42 qualify as an answer? Ooyama. <>-------------------------------------<> I think it's little to ask, that every Concord-pilot roll over and die, that i may live in my version of a perfect world of eternal joy, fun, and justice.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.09.23 11:00:00 - [18] We do need more space, alot more. There should be uninhabited parts of Eve at all times tbh. I assume its a hardware issue though? [Balance] The Caldari problem.
Dan Grobag Caldari Oyster Colors	Posted - 2007.09.23 11:03:00 - [19] Edited by: Dan Grobag on 23/09/2007 11:03:48 There is lot's of uninhabited space in eve, just get out of jita.
Voodoo Mistross Minmatar Cskillzone DAMAGE INC...	Posted - 2007.09.23 11:10:00 - [20] I dont think we need more space exactly, but more conquerable stations would be good, and low sec ones would be awesome . ôHe is one of those* people who would be enormously improved by death.ö*
Ooyama Caldari Fain LLC	Posted - 2007.09.23 11:12:00 - [21] Originally by: welsh wizard We do need more space, alot more. There should be uninhabited parts of Eve at all times tbh. I assume its a hardware issue though? /signed. Ooyama. <>-------------------------------------<> I think it's little to ask, that every Concord-pilot roll over and die, that i may live in my version of a perfect world of eternal joy, fun, and justice.
Dillon Arklight Unit 14	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:18:00 - [22] How many systems? I seem to remember 5000 being said once in IRC but i may have been half asleep at the time. Anybody care to guess or knows?
Hilabana Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:25:00 - [23] Originally by: Planktal Edited by: Planktal on 23/09/2007 05:41:13 I was wondering how big the EVE galaxy is, in light years north to south and east to west? You do know this is space ! No such thing as north, east , south or west when your in space that only works when your on a planet !
Daelin Blackleaf No Joy Corp Phalanx Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:40:00 - [24] Originally by: welsh wizard We do need more space, alot more. There should be uninhabited parts of Eve at all times tbh. I assume its a hardware issue though? Most of 0.0 is uninhabited due to it being practically worthless, it's technically owned but it's still uninhabited.
Sister Impotentata Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:45:00 - [25] Well, if you took all the yeast from all the bellybuttons of all the Gallenteys, and cooked it up into the biggest fluffiest loaf ever, EVE would just about be big enough to be its breadbox. ----- TANSTAAFL When I engage these coils normally I do about 2x10^6 dps. But I try to avoid that because people, entire populations, like die. So I try to keep it to about 4x10^3 dps.
Yao Shiu	Posted - 2007.09.23 14:47:00 - [26] the thing with space is that most of it's empty. so not much fun for eve which is why eve's rather close together astrophysically speaking. (oooh, good word)
RigelKentaurus Flying Reblochons Caldari Deep Space Industral	Posted - 2007.09.23 15:19:00 - [27] Edited by: RigelKentaurus on 23/09/2007 15:19:40 I agree, we need more space, but we don't need more systems. Actually I think each system should be bigger, alot bigger, so that claiming even a single one of them would be something significant. I mean, even all the asteroids of EVE would look like dust compared to the main asteroid belt in the Solar system. Then player would fight for planets instead of systems, and even the biggest alliances would be able to control only a few constellations. But even if CCP manages to to allow multiple nodes to a single system, EVE is way too old to face such a radical change. _________ Someday, EVE might look like this.
F'nog Amarr Celestial Horizon Corp. Valainaloce	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:37:00 - [28] Originally by: Captian Internet Originally by: F'nog It's big. I mean, really big. You may think going down to the local chemist is a long trip but thats peanuts to eve. Fixed Thanks. It was late and I couldn't remember it exactly. I used to get It. Then It changed. Now I don't even know what It is.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:41:00 - [29] The only stars you can go to, are the ones connected by gates. So, any number you are getting here is not the actually size of the galaxy, just the parts we can get to. Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:46:00 - [30] I wonder what would happen if Earth decided it wanted the Eve cluster and invaded..... Nice story arc for missions - getting into RP fleets to counter small squads of powerful Earth based warships.... be interesting to see how that worked out, I would guess that they would be only a bit more advanced than the Jove as their "dark age" lasted 3 centuries. I used to think that Eve was in one of the smaller galaxies in the local galactic cluster (Andromeda + Milky Way plus a few other small ones). Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
Kirjava Lothian Quay Industries Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.23 19:47:00 - [31] Originally by: Stitcher Please, think of the exotic dancers. When have I ever NOT thought about exotic dancers.... Originally by: CCP Morpheus Post with your alt.
McRuder Gallente Stratagem Inc Zzz	Posted - 2007.09.23 20:22:00 - [32] Eve is set in a star cluster which is part of a super cluster which is part of galaxy. A galaxy can contain many super clusters and in turn those can contain many clusters. Galaxies can contain 10 million up to a trillion stars. According to the lore of Eve we are still in the Milky Way galaxy. We are only in a different star cluster than the one earth is in. The diameter of the Milky Way is around 100 000 light years, therefore Eve cluster is just a small part thereof. We are also probably still in the Orion arm in which earth is. I doubt the original races had the longevity or the ability to travel 6500 LY to the closest next arm (Perseus). The closest other galaxy Canis Major is 25000 LY away. Another poster have measured Eve cluster to be 105 LY at most. Use that for perspective against the figures above. We are mixing fact and fiction quite well in this thread? Almost makes Eve seems real ...
PocketRockets EURO-ONE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:06:00 - [33] HUNKY BONKY
PocketRockets EURO-ONE Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:07:00 - [34] hey yes it is
Brolly Caldari Templars of Space Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:12:00 - [35] Originally by: Stitcher Every time we discuss physics in EVE, the devs kill an exotic dancer. Can I watch?
Captian Internet Lead Bricks	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:15:00 - [36] I would like to thank outbreak for inspiring the rest of eve to make lack luster sigs Changes to Local,War ,Navigation Shortcuts
Anti Protagonist Gallente Archron Dusyfe Industries Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:52:00 - [37] Originally by: Kirjava I wonder what would happen if Earth decided it wanted the Eve cluster and invaded..... Nice story arc for missions - getting into RP fleets to counter small squads of powerful Earth based warships.... be interesting to see how that worked out, I would guess that they would be only a bit more advanced than the Jove as their "dark age" lasted 3 centuries. I used to think that Eve was in one of the smaller galaxies in the local galactic cluster (Andromeda + Milky Way plus a few other small ones). Uhm.... I'm not sure that'd make much sense considering the actually backstory of EVE. I need a sig....
Twin blade Minmatar The Triangle	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:49:00 - [38] Edited by: Twin blade on 24/09/2007 16:49:49 Originally by: Kirjava I wonder what would happen if Earth decided it wanted the Eve cluster and invaded..... Nice story arc for missions - getting into RP fleets to counter small squads of powerful Earth based warships.... be interesting to see how that worked out, I would guess that they would be only a bit more advanced than the Jove as their "dark age" lasted 3 centuries. I used to think that Eve was in one of the smaller galaxies in the local galactic cluster (Andromeda + Milky Way plus a few other small ones). I don't know the jove have all ways been a small race so vs what humans have the tec lvl's could be fecking massive making a jove titan look like a pod compaired to a human frig. But i agree earth trying to retake EVE would be great mission wise. !
Xailia Unsteady Corporation	Posted - 2007.09.25 00:29:00 - [39] Originally by: McRuder Eve is set in a star cluster which is part of a super cluster which is part of galaxy. A galaxy can contain many super clusters and in turn those can contain many clusters. Galaxies can contain 10 million up to a trillion stars. According to the lore of Eve we are still in the Milky Way galaxy. We are only in a different star cluster than the one earth is in. The diameter of the Milky Way is around 100 000 light years, therefore Eve cluster is just a small part thereof. We are also probably still in the Orion arm in which earth is. I doubt the original races had the longevity or the ability to travel 6500 LY to the closest next arm (Perseus). The closest other galaxy Canis Major is 25000 LY away. Another poster have measured Eve cluster to be 105 LY at most. Use that for perspective against the figures above. We are mixing fact and fiction quite well in this thread? Almost makes Eve seems real ... They used a natural wormhole to get to EVE, i.e. it could be anywhere. I can't remember if there was any backstory about knowing the location of EVE... anyone? "The sky above the port was the color of a television, tuned to a dead channel."
Azia Burgi Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.09.25 02:24:00 - [40] Originally by: Jack Target I wonder how long it would take to travel from one side of Eve to the other? i worked this out once. the galaxy is 127.2 AUs across (north to south) using a pimped out Helios travelling at about 21 AU/s. assuming you are in warp constantly and have infinite cap it'll take about 3 and a half days. i can dig out my calculations if anyone wants to dispute this. Azia Burgi http://azia.geekandproud.co.uk BP Profit Calculator
McRuder Gallente Absolutely No Return The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.25 06:25:00 - [41] Originally by: Xailia They used a natural wormhole to get to EVE, i.e. it could be anywhere. I can't remember if there was any backstory about knowing the location of EVE... anyone? I intentionally ignored the wormhole part. The backstory descriptions and explanations are inconsistent on this point. In one part it states "Humans arrived through a natural wormhole" and in another part it states its a made thing. Now this means the gate either harnessed a natural wormhole, or its a artificial one created by gate technology like the other ancient ones. Keep in mind the lore says humans did not invent gates, we simply found them and copied them. If its an artificial one the other point is bound to be within STL travel range, so my previous assumptions applies. If it was a harnessed natural wormhole, then my previous assumptions still holds true - Eve is still a game played on a server located on Earth ... But for fiction sake, then yes I agree Eve cluster could be anywhere, and probably also in a different time or parallel universe.
Adaris D-L	Posted - 2007.09.25 12:34:00 - [42] Originally by: Arii Smith Bigger than Azeroth... rofl *******
Grainsalt Free Corp	Posted - 2007.09.25 12:42:00 - [43] Originally by: Planktal Edited by: Planktal on 23/09/2007 05:41:13 I was wondering how big the EVE galaxy is, in light years north to south and east to west? It's this big... \|---------------------------------------------\| --- http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=554257
343conspiracy43345	Posted - 2007.09.25 15:28:00 - [44] Smaller since WTZ.
Sheriff Jones Amarr Please Enter Password	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:26:00 - [45] Originally by: cal nereus Edited by: cal nereus on 23/09/2007 07:07:17 Relatively large in comparison to most things. Edit: Or what Kirex said. This ofcourse is also relative. One might say that an elephant, relative to earth, isn't that big, but to a mouse, an elephant and earth are relatively, atleast in some measure, the same sized. Now if we take the mouse and elephant, they are relatively same sized also, if compared to earth. Now lets put the elephant, the mouse and earth next to the sun. Relatively similarly minuscule again, in relation to the sun. Now let's take the mouse, the elephant, the earth, the sun, put them in a station container, shake it all about and do the hokeypokey and there we go....EVEverse. My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit.
An Anarchyyt Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:31:00 - [46] Originally by: McRuder Originally by: Xailia They used a natural wormhole to get to EVE, i.e. it could be anywhere. I can't remember if there was any backstory about knowing the location of EVE... anyone? I intentionally ignored the wormhole part. The backstory descriptions and explanations are inconsistent on this point. In one part it states "Humans arrived through a natural wormhole" and in another part it states its a made thing. Now this means the gate either harnessed a natural wormhole, or its a artificial one created by gate technology like the other ancient ones. Keep in mind the lore says humans did not invent gates, we simply found them and copied them. If its an artificial one the other point is bound to be within STL travel range, so my previous assumptions applies. If it was a harnessed natural wormhole, then my previous assumptions still holds true - Eve is still a game played on a server located on Earth ... But for fiction sake, then yes I agree Eve cluster could be anywhere, and probably also in a different time or parallel universe. There was a natural wormhole found, and the Eve gate was created to allow the ships to go through the gate. The acceleration gates are another story, those are the ones that were "found". And most likely, those would be created by the original human settlers of New Eden. There is fiction about the Eve gate itself in the intro movie in the game, and in the Backstory link under "Scientific Articles." Originally by: CCP Wrangler Second, a gentile is a non jewish person

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