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Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.23 06:46:00 - [1] Originally by: Sehanine This thread is going to last a very long time. QFT and we will see a lot of stupid drivel. OP, I seam to recall that the UK has more mugging/robberies than the US. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.23 06:57:00 - [2] Originally by: Antrius Bara I have no idea what your smoking, but can i have some? No. Seriously. The chances of being shot at school in the US is bigger, but chances of getting mugged is bigger in the UK. And a few weeks after a ten year old boy killed in a gang related shoting its kinda stupid to start a thread like this, non? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.23 07:55:00 - [3] Originally by: Lars Lodar What the hell is a Chav? chav aid Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.23 18:41:00 - [4] A four-year-old boy has been stabbed to death in West Yorkshire. A 14-year-old girl was also seriously injured in the incident in Royd Street, Slaithwaite, on Sunday afternoon.She has been taken to Huddersfield Royal Infirmary with stab wounds to her chest and stomach. Her condition is described as serious. West Yorkshire Police are treating the death as murder. Two men, one aged 47, have been arrested in connection with the incident. BBC correspondent Danny Savage said the teenage girl had eventually fallen in the street after being attacked, and that specific area was being examined.Local residents expressed their disbelief over the incident, our correspondent added. Neighbour Paul O'Shea said: "We are very shocked. It happened right across the road from us. "Seven or eight houses have been blocked off and the residents are not being allowed out. "The first we heard about anything was when the police arrived. It's a terrible thing to happen." Another neighbour, Marjorie Sykes, said: "The police have come round and sealed off the road. "I wanted to take my car out and go to church this afternoon, but they told me I had to stay inside the house." So, thats Uk -1 and US +1 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/bradford/7009404.stm Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.24 14:51:00 - [5] Time to END this thread. Europe (not EU) wins. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:26:00 - [6] Edited by: Death Kill on 24/09/2007 15:27:30 Originally by: DarkMatter Not everyone would want to live there however... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I doubt I could live the way I wanted to in your country... It's not really about beauty. Its about standard of living, political, religious, economic freedom etc. also, when it comes to beauty, Norway is known to have one of if not the most beautifull nature in Europe. Quote: I think what's good about most western nations is, if you like one over the other, you can move there without too much hassle... I'll agree that since 9/11 it might be harder to come live here. But you all hate the US anyways, so no problem right? No we dont. I'm quite fond of the US. It's just that I dislike people like the ones mentioned in the speech that can be found in my clickable signature. edit again : Originally by: DarkMatter I doubt I could live the way I wanted to in your country.. Why not? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.24 15:55:00 - [7] Originally by: DarkMatter Well, check my sig. I doubt I could afford to do that in your country. And I doubt the government & environmentalists would give me the go ahead. Ofcorse you could, unless you decided to live in a national park and a digger is free. Quote: Plus I like to hunt & fish, have loud noisy cars & trucks, etc... I'd probably be considered a nuisance in your country... Not really considering only ca 5% of the country is inhabitated. People here are closer to nature than in most western countries. Quote: You have to think. Democrats in my country are more conservative than the conservatives in your country. And I'm by no means a US Democrat. I would simply not be happy in your country... Our countries cant be compared as they are so different. Republican or democrat dont mean anything over here. Stuff are just that different Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:02:00 - [8] Edited by: Death Kill on 24/09/2007 16:03:13 Originally by: Brujo Loco -The Catholic Church here, no matter how monstruos for some people in this forum it might be (honestly, your catholic/christian churches up there must be awful places of satanic bent where they kill babies and eat their entrails at midnight for what I have read here) are pillars of faith in communities. Something I have a feeling is not the truth in some places up there The Catholic church you say? The same Chrurch that says AIDS is bad but condoms are worse? this is the only thing I could comment. Commenting on more would be a total devestation. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.24 18:33:00 - [9] Originally by: Arron S It proves my point that Americans and Europeans have alot more in common then they think.. There all *******s where did Candadians come from? Did they spawn from sheit? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 08:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Micheal Dietrich Quote: 4. Did the US really have to get involved in WWI or WWII? Well actually in WW2 we had to join the battle full time after zero's lightly showered our west coast. Before that strange weather pattern however we,not really as a country, but more as independent people, helped out in small ways like joining the BAF and what not. Not to mention everything the UK had to pay the US. They had to give up property in the in the US, gold, and share all their latest millitary secrets. The US made a small fortune from it. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 09:12:00 - [11] Originally by: shinsushi Well the UK got something out of it too. Spreken zie deutsch? And the French helped the americans in their struggle for independance. Without them, you would still have been a English colony. Whats your point? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 09:32:00 - [12] Originally by: Taj Zela They we'e repaid with being saved in ~~WWI~~ WWII, non? Oui. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 09:39:00 - [13] Edited by: Death Kill on 25/09/2007 09:40:09 Originally by: shinsushi You made it sound like the UK got nothing out of it, while the evil Americans took advantage of the English. I pointed out a symbiotic exchange rather than a parasitic one. You make it sound like the Americans halped Europe because they felt it was the right thing to do. The US was first very comfertable with watching Europe burn. Japanese and German agression got you into the war, not charity. Quote: Anyway learn you history, the English never would have won that war, just like while **** Germany would have steam rolled western Europe, Russia would have eventually beaten them, and dropping the A-bomb saved more lives than it cost (both Japanese and American lives.) US steel made sure Russia could produce tanks, without it Russia would have been forced to surrender. A-bomb? when did that topic enter the debate? And as far as history, most of the royal British navy was guarding the English channel as they feared france would attack England. And american ships were allowed to repair their ships in French harbours. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 10:27:00 - [14] Originally by: Taj Zela So, what would have happened had not all the american troops came over to help in WWI? If memory serves it was around the time Russia surrendered and all the eastern german troops were free'd up to hit the western front. I also remember reading paris nearly falling and the frnech having to commendeer taxi's to rush soldiers to the front. I thought all the fresh american troops turned the tide. Not really. Ww1 was just a stallmate where all sides sendt troops to die in a massive meat grinder. Neither side were able to hit eachothers factories etc etc. Basically millions died on a relative small area. Just take a look at the casualties list and you get a very good indicator of how it was. Preussia didnt surrender due to any decisive victory like in other wars. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 10:33:00 - [15] Originally by: shinsushi No, you started out characterizing American involvement in the early stages of WWII as profiteering. I only responded after your comment. You have made it sound as if the United States was not involved in WW I aswell, when 4 million American citizens were drafted, our mercantile vessels re-outfitted, and we sent 10,000 troops a day, to help win the war. Yes I did. America was happy with staying out of Europe as they did business with the **s. Yes the US helped during WW1 but WW1 would have ended anyways as neither sides could really afford such casualties. Quote: Not to mention it was due in large part to European idiocy that WWII even happened. The US was not comfortable watching Europe burn, most of the population wanted to get involved but thanks for painting my culture that way. America was having an isolationistic policy at that time, they refered to the war as 'Europes war' and had no intention of joining. Quote: Where the hell are you getting the figures for American steel going to Russia for tanks? I know that the handbook "The economy of USSR in 1941-45" doesn't agree with you. Oh I dont knw the fact that Russia was in desperate need of steel? Ever heard about the huge convoys going from the US to Russia with raw materials to help the russian army build the units needed to fight germany? ever heard about the uboat wars? the evolution of destroyers and subs? Quote: France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being ***s to the whole world. Kinda like the US today innit? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 10:52:00 - [16] Originally by: shinsushi I am glad your true colors are showing. Ok, so my first hand knowledge of speaking with people here and at the 60th anniversary of D-Day ceremony at Normandy is trumped by your prejudice and biased opinion.... Ever spoken with WWII vets? Ever had them come up to you, shake your hand and thank you when you know damn well they have sacrificed 100 times what you have? STFU. I had family memebers captured and tortured by the Gestapo. I dont need any lectures from a blind patriot unwilling to see throgh the history written in the 'glory days' after WW2. Quote: Hey, who sends more relief aid out in troops and money than the UN? Which country spearheads operations to stop genocide in the third world? I'll give ya a hint, its no one in Europe. Wich country has started most of the wars since the 50's? Witch country has assasinated state leaders, backed millitary despots to come into power resulting in genocide? (chile/Iraq) what country bombs people from far away while calling themselves brave? I'll give you a hint, its no one in europe. Quote: Keep your ignorant elitism to yourself, the United States has done more for to relieve pain and suffering in the world than any other Super-power ever. I wonder what the people that had napalm rain over them felt. Or the civillians in Iraq that are machine gunned down by privatly owned 'security' personell who come to Iraq to profit from the suffering of others. Quote: Hey wasn't Britan like this horrible tyranical super-power that never gave anything back in it's day? How about France? Italy, Germany. . If your only argument is that Europeans have been bad too, then its hardly a counter to the evils of the only superpower, in my opinion Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 11:22:00 - [17] Originally by: Doctor Fruitloop Originally by: Death Kill[quote France helped out America to screw over Britian because of a prior defeat in Canada. Of course we could talk about Spain, Austria's and Holland's roles in the war aswell. IT was basically a case of Britain screwing themselves over by being ***s to the whole world. Kinda like the US today innit? That is kind of true, but there allways has to be the biggest bastard right? Give it a few years and the title will go to another country, US is on the decline in global importance. The term superpower may even go into misuse as the term Great power is redefined to include India China USA and EU. All true. I forgot one comment to the previous poster though Quote:** The United States has been the most benevolent world leader in history, a fact you cannot dispute. Thats partially true, it all depends on if you are on the receiving end of a cruise missile. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 11:42:00 - [18] Originally by: DarkMatter So what are all you USA haters going to do exactly? Sit and b!tch some more? Jesus you guys cry a lot... Eh? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 13:30:00 - [19] Originally by: Kirjava Point is, when Putin is gone things will change for the better, if a more open governemt is in place perhaps then it would be integrated into the EU as a trade block which would stabalise the econemy and lower it's trade barriers. Maybe I'm being Naive on this but I hope that it will eventualy remove the pseudo Communism. I don't share your optimism. Though living next door to Russia I hope for the better. It all depends on who replaces Putin, but keep in mind Putin has closed all independant media in Russia and whomever gets elected after him will have the table set for a dictatorship. In a sense, Putin is already a dictator. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 14:36:00 - [20] Originally by: Jago Kain OK, so the USA was late for WWI and WWII... fair comment, even Britain was late joinging in WWII and only came in for the same reason as the USA; enlightened self-interest. Didnt Britain and France declear war on Germany when Germany invaded Poland? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 14:38:00 - [21] Originally by: DarkMatter I think it would be good for the USA to not be the top superpower for a while. I think it would be a breath of fresh air to only have to look out for ourselves, and not police the world... Let China do that... Or whoever the next superpower is... It would be better if the US was like a forum moderator. Allowing everyone to mind their own business but if they are out of line it would appear and lay the smackdown on people. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.25 14:47:00 - [22] Originally by: Cornucopian dont you guys read the news? Putin has a henchman ready for his inheritance. Putin is stepping down soon, to plant Zubkov, one of his old KGB buddies. basically Zubkov will do everything Putin says. Nah. When he gets to power he will make Putin magically dissapear. Thats how KGB agent operate. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.26 06:46:00 - [23] Edited by: Death Kill on 26/09/2007 06:47:57 Originally by: shinsushi Once again, I have spoken with both American and European soldiers at the 60th anniversary of D-Day in Normandy. Many of my relatives fought, and some died, in WWII. And is this some type of argument? Whats your point? Quote: Your full of **, I am calling you on it. Oh noes! Quote: Misdirection, that means you have no counter to my original arguement doesn't it? Yes I do. You portrait the US as some loving carebear caring for everyone and never does any harm to anyone witch is a blatant lie. The amount of sceletons you got in your closet is amazing, your ignorance of history is even more amazing. Quote: The United States has been in the Korean War, the Vietnem War, and Middle-Eastern wars (I and II) since the 50s. Oh, and all countries invlove themselves in third world politics. Didn't France support Iraq after the US denounced them for attrocities? 1. I think you need to work on your definiition of support. 2. Saying that others may have been bad too isnt a good argument. 3. Attrocoties? Who put ** into power, who sold Iraq tons of weapons in the past. Oh snap the US did. Quote: Anyway, Norway doesn't really involve themselves in anything because they are insignificant on the world stage. Yes we do. We try to negotiate peace between nations that are in conflict. Unlike you who run around being world police bombing people we give people aid and ask them to calm down. You run around with a big stick, we carry an olive branch. Your mentality "we are big , we are strong grrrrrr" belongs in the previous millenia. Quote: Wow, so using weapons available to us makes what difference? It makes all the difference in the world when you pat your self on the back and pretend to be brave. Especially when your solsiers run amok in Iraq raping and killing civillians. Quote: Lol, Eurpean companies are just as involved as American ones. You have been profiting on the suffering of others since history began, along with all developed nations. This is a non-point, an appeal to emotion rather than reason. Not really. Quote: It seems like I have brought up multiple arguments, and you have fallen short on all of them. Why, because you say so? You use classical fox News rethoric. America the brave, spreading freedom to the world (by using cruise missiles) and only evil communists are against us. THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM!!! Better take a good look at yourself buddy, there is a reason for why the US is the least populat country in the west, and theres a reason to why a huge part of the world dislikes you. You may chose to belive its because the world is evil and they hate you for your freedom, but thats just another example of american ignorance. Quote: What have you done to shape the world today? Each day I enter a phoneboth and change into a superhero costume, then I save the world. Quote: I fought for what I believed in, and would gladly do it again. You are a monday-mourning quarterback with all the answers and no real-life experience to draw from. A spoiled product of an envious culture and one thats guilty of just as much scape-goating as the one you damn now. You are a hypocrite looking for anyway to feel good about your lack of action, and guilt compels you to blame someone for acting. Your a piece of **. An american calling me spoiled, with no life experience? LOL! I fell of my chair laughing. You mention culture, what culture do you have? You live in a degenerated society where your heroes are people singing about hoes, dollars, lexus and girls dressing as prostitutes. Do you have any idea of how much of an irony overload your reply was? Keep on calling others spoiled while you continue to consume most of the planets resources you vicious piece of jelly. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:24:00 - [24] Originally by: DarkMatter The USA is not going to change it's ways because of world opinion, sorry... And thats why hardly anyone likes you anymore. The world comunity ask that you stop acting like jerks, but you refuse to because you dont care about world opinion. So instead you turn death into profit, killing into a business. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.26 11:40:00 - [25] Edited by: Death Kill on 26/09/2007 11:41:52 Originally by: DarkMatter This is the one thing liberals can never understand, talk is f'ing cheap! It's useless when things actually need to get done... I'm not a liberal I'm actually conservative. But you wont even know the difference between a liberal and a conservative if you read the definition 100 times. Did you know that Eisenhower was a liberal? Quote: None of them did... They changed for a multitude of other reasons, not because other countries didn't like them, boo hoo... Right. They didnt, back in medival times, colonial times. guess what, we live in the modern age, the information age. so stop acting like a dinosaur and take a step into the modern, civilised comunity. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 05:32:00 - [26] Edited by: Death Kill on 27/09/2007 05:36:25 Originally by: Ademaro Imre OK. What conflicts has Norway stopped? We got a sieze fire in Sri Lanka, and we have tried to do something about the Palestinian-Israel conflict. Thats a tricky one due to Americas Jewish lobby forcing the US to be Israels lapdog and do pretty much whatever it feels like. were also invovled in some African countries as well as Latin america IIRC. As a small nation thats not a member of the EU and that doesnt have a history of acting purely on self interest people tend to trust us. We are rich enough as it is, so money is not really on the agenda either. Quote: It was French Gazelle helicopters that mounted the machine guns that the Butcher of Baghdad used to massacre Kurds with. Yes, really. And? You do know that europe is made up for more than France right? Kinda ruins the argument now doesnt it? Quote: On behalf of my grandparents, you're welcome. Norway didn't negotiate the 350,000 German soldiers into surrendering, Allied armies compelled them. Yeah, Russian and British soldiers. Quote: So, you don't like rap music? That's funny, the US is diverse enough to tolerate many cultures. I guess that doesn't happen in Norway? Or too busy negotiating? I dont like a culture that promotoes violence, anti social behavior and the degration of women. Can you dig it yo!? Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 05:37:00 - [27] Originally by: DarkMatter The the failure of the UN is our fault too? You guys are a friggin joke... Why don't your countries stand up and do the right things then, instead of just ******* whining about us? Maybe if you stopped vetoing anything that may improve the situasion in Palestine things might get better Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 05:50:00 - [28] Originally by: Naervic Broad overused and generalized statements are being thrown about, for example were in Iraq for oil. Oil you say? Seven or 8 eight years ago I could see an Exxon station selling gas for 99 cents. What is the average price today might I ask? Two or three times that? I doubt were stealing oil from the Iraqis as much as y'all would like to think. Yeah. what about the BILLIONS of dollars that magically went missing from Iraq? What about companies such as Haliburton making tons of money in Iraq? What about Iraq now being the new 'wild west' where shady companies operate and makes millions? Quote: I believe that we are doing the right thing in Iraq, and I very much doubt we're raping and pillaging Iraqis left and right. Many American news networks would be advertising that 24/7/365. We took out a dictator who really was raping and murdering, we took out the man who committed genocide on his own people. If I remember correctly it was 5,000 people murdered with some type of nerve gas mixture, most of the people killed were women and children? WMD's or not, I'm glad he's gone. Why did you have to go all the way to Iraq to take out the evil badman eh? Why not start with Cuba? If your motive is to save the world from tyranny it would make more sense to start with someone located a bit closer non? Quote: I can admit there have been idiotic acts performed by a few men in the army, but then what do you expect. Walk into a college and see how many people do something stupid and wrong out of that group of people. My guesses are quite a few. Its a fact of life, idiots happen. 'A few men' has killed civillians. Tell that to the father who lost his wife and child. Tell it to the estimated 650000 civillian casualties. **** killed 5000 and you use that to justefy the mass murder of 650k? Are you *** serious? Quote: One thing I grow quickly tired of is the stereotyping of Americans, usually were seen as overweight, greasy, rednecks with the IQ of a jack rabbit. Or some kind of gang member out of the hood listening to rap music and carrying an M9 in the backpocket, and ready to knife the nearest person. I wonder why. Besides cruise missiles, that is your biggest export articles. Quote:** I look about my school, and very few fit such a description. I'm an average middle class teenager who enjoys classic rock, classical music, ambient, techno, jazz, piano, and j-pop. (And definitely not overweight has probably lost weight typing up this message)America has a very diverse culture, making overgeneralized statements such as that is only made to incite wrath, and an attempt to put the opposition down. Yes some are overweight, yes some are morons but then thats just normal. Heh when I had some visitors coming over fromt he US last sumemr they kept telling me 'omg there are no obese people here' Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 10:44:00 - [29] Originally by: DarkMatter Like I said, talk is cheap. The UN is a joke. You can have all the UN resolutions you want, they don't mean a damn thing, and we all know that... If your country is so worried about Palestine, send aid directly to that country, send your military to help them... If you don't do those things then honestly you can just be quiet... We already do send aid to them, a lot. Problem is, everytime the UN wants to punish Israel for stepping out of line the US comes and veto against any proposol that the Jewish lobby in the US doesnt like. thats why the UN doesnt work because of your own doings. Quote: The EU could send massive amounts of aid to the region, form a giant peace keeping coalition from it's own militaries, but they don't... UN observers are already there. And the EU already send them aid. You appear to have little or no knowledge about how thwe situasion is down there other than what presented to you by Fox News so lets not discuss it anymore. Quote: The EU could setup a DMZ between Palestine & Israel, and have troops stationed there for 57 years like we have had in Korea, but you don't... DMZ? How are you going to set up a DMZ in the MIDDLE OF JERUSALEM? Think before you post. Quote: All we hear from across the pond is your countries b!tching, but taking no action... Americans tend to ignore those who talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Why do you think we don't give a crap about what other countries think? You never take any action, and we know that you wont... So we can simply ignore your complaints and have full confidence you will do NOTHING... the US talk the talk about peace and freedom but doesnt walk the freedom walk. I think you need to take a good look at yourself. Quote: The only ones who take any action are Britain & Australia. They seem to be the only countries with any nads left... They are your spineless lapdogs. Especially Australia. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 11:09:00 - [30] Edited by: Death Kill on 27/09/2007 11:09:53 Originally by: DarkMatter Yes, a DMZ between Isreal & Palestine. Keep the peace with the blood of your own countrymen if you are so concerned... You dont get it do you? Experts propose actions ALL the time via the UN, but the US KEEPS VETOING IT ALL RESULTING IN NOTHING CHANGING. AND SENDING SOLDIERS WITH BIG GUNS ISNT ALWAYS THE ANSWERS AS YOU HOPEFULLY WILL LEARN ONE DAY, I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT YOU WOULD HAVE LREANRED ALREADY WITH IRAQ BUT NO YOU DONT WANT TO CHANGE YOUR OPINION BECAUSE YOU DONT WANT TO BE A FLIP-FLOPPPER LIKE THEM LIBERAL HIPPIES!!! Sadly. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 12:31:00 - [31] Originally by: DarkMatter Voting doesn't accomplish ****... Don't wait for a vote, go out and make it happen. You don't have to wait for us to start, go save the world on your own... Start up your own coalition. I'm sorry, but the ppl causing all the trouble use guns. Talking & voting about terrorists doesn't accomplish crap, you need to talk their language, that language involves killing. Sigh Sometimes you have to use force such as in Afghanistan. Norwegian fotrces have been there for several years already. you cant compare the Palestinian-Israeli conflict with Aghanistan. you seam to have little interesting in thinking abou what you actually say to lets just agree on disagreeing. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.27 17:03:00 - [32] Originally by: Drakolus Show me a country that is NOT governed by self-interest...and yet you want to crucify the U.S. because we are doing what we believe is right for us. There is a difference between self-interest and butt******* the world. Sadly fox News watching, Hamburger eating, ann coulter admiring drones dont realise this. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.28 05:27:00 - [33] Edited by: Death Kill on 28/09/2007 05:29:17 Originally by: Ademaro Imre That is part of the European mindset. Very few have any actual understanding of the United States, despite what any may post ion these boards about friends, family or visits. In Europe, nations have been generally determined by language and culture, and every single nation itself is small. And they apply that mind set to the United States. And they have no idea, nor have the concept that one nation is able to have so many cultures, vast array of different lifestyles, political beliefs and get along under one rule. Speaking about mindset. I just love how Americans think they are the only ones with a country thats made out of different cultures. I really love how Americans refer to European nations as 'singleminded' and what not when their own presidents gets elected by being white, god fearing goodie two shoes. Different political beliefs? HAH! All you got to chose from is Neocon and neocon light. Different lifestyles? In Europe ghey people can get married, in Europe there are ghey politicians. Europe has more liberties than the US, your liberty is the option to chose between 50 different take out places, and to pay your employee minimum wage while buying a new SUV for yourself. Quote: One poster in this thread or a related one, heard some possibly explicit rap music, and from his little chair in Norway - thinks the US worships rap music artists, and has declared the US culture bankrupt. Look at the list of best selling artists in the US. And no I never decleared US culture to be bankrupt. Quote: It makes me laugh. Especially when, and maybe I am ignorant in this regard, I can not identify a single shard of Norwegian culture present in the US. Does that mean Norway has no culture? I could go one with how absurd this poster's worldview is. I think you will find that lots of the Northern states has a high persentage of 'Norwegian Americans', although they are as Norwegian as I'm Japanese. Also, after the Irish Norwegians was the biggest group of imigrants to the US so I guess you just have to turn off Fox News and explore your own country. And yeah, if you go to a record store and look under the 'black metal' section you can find Norwegian culture. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.28 05:32:00 - [34] Originally by: Lord BlackSter To the topic: You cannot compare US / EU. Why not? You can compare standards of living, political freedom, religious freedom, sexual freedom, economical freedom etc etc. Call to arms!!!
Death Kill Caldari direkte	Posted - 2007.09.28 07:59:00 - [35] Originally by: Taj Zela The last time your country mattered in the world was when you were sendign viking ships to *****and plunder people. There are other ways of mattering besides invading and killing civillians. This is the one and only reply I grant you, troll. Call to arms!!!

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