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Lady Valory	Posted - 2007.09.23 18:05:00 - [1] I'm at a loss for what to train... Should I get cloaking 5 or anyone think covert ops 5 will be necessary? Also should I bother with t2 gun/missile skills like blasters or rockets or will these frigs be so poor with dps that it isn't worth it?
Zhett Haukes Blood Corsair's The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.23 18:48:00 - [2] I think at the moment the only thing that can be said "almost" for certain is they will need Frig V. They might just make them require Cov Ops 3 like a third tier. My guess would be Frig V and Recon IV, but I have nothing to base that on!
MyOwnSling Gallente RONA Corporation FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.23 21:18:00 - [3] No T2 ship in game requires a T2 ship skill to lvl5, so I wouldn't worry about anything like recon 5 or covert ops 5. This is going to be an EWAR frig, not another cov ops, so I also doubt that cloaking skill will be required (thought I could be wrong) and I am anticipating a new skill book for this ship class (class of its own, not a cov ops, recon, or anything else like that). As the other guy said, racial frigate 5 is guaranteed. I would look into other ewar related skills that correstpond to your race's ewar style (i.e. RSD for gallente, ECM for caldari, etc.). Other than that, no idea. ------------- Stop whining. Originally by: Puupuu dude... your face...
Galan Undris	Posted - 2007.09.23 22:20:00 - [4] Edited by: Galan Undris on 23/09/2007 22:21:43 Might be good to remember that none of the current t2 frigs require much of anything really, just racial frig 5 and one or two other genereal (nothing race specific) rank 1-2 skills at 5 and you're good to go. Im expecting something like one or at most two of the low tier skills ( maybe targetting and/or long range targetting) in electronics would suffice. Quote: ...anyone think covert ops 5 will be necessary? No t2 class of ships requires another t2 skill of the same size, only the one below (like af 4 for hacs, etc). Im 100% sure cov-op 5 (or 1 for that matter) won't be a requirement.
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.24 00:20:00 - [5] Edited by: Aramendel on 24/09/2007 00:23:34 Yes, something in the same ballpark as you need for inties, assault or cov ops frigs is most likely. Frig 5 and 1 rank 2 or 2 rank 1 skills at 5. Ooe option could be their racial EW skill at 5, but that would create some inequity between ECM and the rest since ECM is rank 2 and the rest rank 3.
Jurgen Cartis Caldari Interstellar Corporation of Exploration	Posted - 2007.09.24 00:58:00 - [6] Edited by: Jurgen Cartis on 24/09/2007 00:59:57 All the T2 Frigs so far require Racial Frigate V and a skill specific to that class of T2 Frig. The second skill always has required two ranks of skills to V (either 2 rank 1 or 1 rank 2). Expect it to be an EW or Electronics related skill, perhaps simply Electronic Warfare V. -------------------------------------------------- ICE Blueprint Sales FIRST!! -Yipsilanti Pfft. Never such a thing as a "last chance". ;) -Rauth
sableye principle of motion Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.24 01:27:00 - [7] my guess is if you can fly recons and have frig level 5 you'll be rdy to fly them after you buy that ship class skill. Join The Fight With Promo Today
Panch0Villa Caldari AFK	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:11:00 - [8] My guess: Either A: Frig V, Electronics V, Ewar V (Per an EW niche) or B1: Frig V, Elec.Upgrades V. OR B2: Frig V, Sig analysis V. (Following the Recon tree) just speculating. Re vera, potas bene.
Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.24 16:24:00 - [9] The thing here is that I do not really think they will reuse the skills for cov ops and recon ships.
Panch0Villa Caldari AFK	Posted - 2007.09.25 14:22:00 - [10] Edited by: Panch0Villa on 25/09/2007 14:23:03 I highly doubt the racial ew skills will be used. There is no pattern of using racial skills at all for any t2 ship, except the skill for that racial ship class. Quote: The most-annoying-frigate-ever Frigate. No, we're not talking about hundreds of noob frigates with civilian Gatling Guns, we're talking about electronic warfare on a new scale. A very small scale. It's the Recon class, now in bite-sized chunks that bite back if you're not careful. Recon class - that means to me that either they will be closely related to the current recon cruisers, or use ew, per their post. Per the current setup, most t2 cruiser requirements build off of the t2 frigate requirements most related to that ship class. I'm thinking EW V would be a good choice, since it's non-racial, and i doubt it would be the same as covops, so nix the elec.upgrades. How about, EW V, or barring that, some electronics skill, like sig analysis, long-range targeting, etc. I think that's reasonable to assume... Re vera, potas bene.

Aramendel Amarr Coreli Corporation Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.25 16:41:00 - [11] EW actually IS racial. It is the ECM racial skill.
omiNATION	Posted - 2007.09.25 17:44:00 - [12] They might require EW LVL 5, what with these being EW ships and all
Valrandir Gallente Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.09.25 19:40:00 - [13] Electronics Warfare V Electronics Upgrades V Racial Frigate V A new skill to I or II -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware - Oveur
Panch0Villa Caldari AFK	Posted - 2007.09.26 21:40:00 - [14] Originally by: Aramendel Edited by: Aramendel on 25/09/2007 16:47:20 EW actually IS racial. It is the ECM racial skill. Well golly gee... I stand corrected. One of the other ones, then... Re vera, potas bene.
Malcanis High4Life SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.27 07:24:00 - [15] Originally by: Panch0Villa Originally by: Aramendel Edited by: Aramendel on 25/09/2007 16:47:20 EW actually IS racial. It is the ECM racial skill. Well golly gee... I stand corrected. One of the other ones, then... Long Distance Jamming would seem appropriate, but that's a rank 4 skill. Frequency Modulation would kinda work too, but that's still a rank 3. But in fact Electronic Warfare is the only rank 2 skill in the EW set; the other racials are rank 3, and the "booster" skills are rank 5. So maybe the EW frigates will simply be a little more skillpoint-intensive than the other T2 frigates. CONCORD provide consequences, not safety; only you can do that.
Mr Bodacious	Posted - 2007.09.27 16:58:00 - [16] Methinks these t2 frigs are not intended to be used like AFs. don't think you'll see one in the hands of "just-graduated-from-pirate-college" players anymore. theyre gonna (hopefully) require a skillset that doesnt lend itself to being shot down easily. Just imagine trying to shoot one of these things in a battleship. It could completely shut you down. :p


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