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Kimi Caldari Scorpious Industrial	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:35:00 - [1] I am looking for a good courier type ship to start working towards, mainly for running things like BP's around and checking markets in various regions. I am a carebear and seldom go to under .5 space, but some good defense would also be nice just in case, but mainly just looking for speed for running around all over. It appears to me that with the "perfect" setup that interceptors can approach 1600 km/s - is my math off?
hellraiser Mortis Angelus The Church.	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:36:00 - [2] Interceptors can push 6km/s+.
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:38:00 - [3] With an afterburner that sounds about right. Fit a microwarpdrive and a pretty standard setup will take you upto 6km/s though. If you need the little extra space an interceptor provides over a shuttle then fly an inty as they're difficult to tackle in low sec unless you jump into a dedicated camp or get smartbombed. If you're moving items that use less than 10m3 cargospace (blueprints for example) then just use a shuttle. [Balance] The Caldari problem.
Spenz Gallente Dark Knights of Deneb Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:53:00 - [4] with the ULTRA perfect setup interceptors can push 12k m/s 1600k m/s is low warp. No ship can go that fast. You must be referring to 1600 m/s If I had an Alt I would probably post with it...
Indigo Johnson Minmatar	Posted - 2007.09.26 15:56:00 - [5] 6km is standard. 10km with a low grade set of snakes is very doable And with heat, faction MWD and a fully maxed claymore pilot, well ive heard speeds in an intie pass 25km/s.
achoura	Posted - 2007.09.26 16:01:00 - [6] Actually a perfect setup for an inty, ie crow, with all relative applied bonuses will do a tad over 60km/s, if a little impractical.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:09:00 - [7] With a bizarre ass setup and level V skills I can get a Vagabond up to 29,400m/s With a real fit and one faction mod: 12,243m/s But what you really want isn't a fast ship, but an invisible ship. Try for a covops. They can warp cloaked. Fit a MWD to escape bubbles. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:16:00 - [8] Originally by: achoura Actually a perfect setup for an inty, ie crow, with all relative applied bonuses will do a tad over 60km/s, if a little impractical. 60km/s? How? Best I can squeeze out of a Claw is 17.6km/s and that's with full Snakes and faction mods. ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
Altaree Red Frog Investments Blue Sky Consortium	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:18:00 - [9] For high sec running around and interceptor is great. Just be aware that the weaker of the two has a faster max warp speed. I think the fastest you can go is about 13.5AU/sec. I have one with a 1MN MWDII 3xoverdriveII and 1xinertial stab II. It flies at >600m/s without the mwd on and is almost wtz with it on.
Marcathonas Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:18:00 - [10] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: achoura Actually a perfect setup for an inty, ie crow, with all relative applied bonuses will do a tad over 60km/s, if a little impractical. 60km/s? How? Best I can squeeze out of a Claw is 17.6km/s and that's with full Snakes and faction mods. Don't know about breaking 60, but there is a screenshot somewhere of AngelusX's crow doing 52. I assume 60 would be maxed-out mindlink claymore, t2 polycarbs, HG snakes, full officer/rogue set, domi ODs, gistii A-type and possibly strong x-instinct.
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:22:00 - [11] Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: Xaen Originally by: achoura Actually a perfect setup for an inty, ie crow, with all relative applied bonuses will do a tad over 60km/s, if a little impractical. 60km/s? How? Best I can squeeze out of a Claw is 17.6km/s and that's with full Snakes and faction mods. Don't know about breaking 60, but there is a screenshot somewhere of AngelusX's crow doing 52. I assume 60 would be maxed-out mindlink claymore, t2 polycarbs, HG snakes, full officer/rogue set, domi ODs, gistii A-type and possibly strong x-instinct. Oh yeah, gang bonuses + boosters. But I can get a vaga to 29km/s solo ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
Marcathonas Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:23:00 - [12] Originally by: Xaen Oh yeah, gang bonuses + boosters. But I can get a vaga to 29km/s solo Crow can actually hit something while going above 4 though
Slayton Ford Uninvited Guests	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:24:00 - [13] Originally by: Kimi I am looking for a good courier type ship to start working towards, mainly for running things like BP's around and checking markets in various regions. I am a carebear and seldom go to under .5 space, but some good defense would also be nice just in case, but mainly just looking for speed for running around all over. It appears to me that with the "perfect" setup that interceptors can approach 1600 km/s - is my math off? I wouldn't use a Inty for running around valuables. Use a cov ops instead. They warp faster (13AU/s) and are pretty much impossible to lock before they cloak. --------------- This sig has been censored in fear of recieving the ban hammer...
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:30:00 - [14] A Claw without rigs, implants or faction equipment can do 7690 m/s.
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:34:00 - [15] Originally by: Slayton Ford I wouldn't use a Inty for running around valuables. Use a cov ops instead. They warp faster (13AU/s) and are pretty much impossible to lock before they cloak. Some interceptors (about half of them) warp at 13.5 AU/s as well. And a fast interceptor is far more survivable than a covert ops in 0.0 (in low-sec it's about the same, but in low-sec any fast frigate will do anyway). Especially an interceptor with a cloak on it. Nearly impossible to catch.
Semkhet KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:50:00 - [16] A covops firgate is a good choice, however, if you run into a strong gate camp with corpses and wrecks littered everywhere, it might be difficult to navigate your way out of the mobile warp bubble and remain cloaked. Instead, if you have the isk, what you should do is: 1) Buy all the relevant speed implants LG or HG Snake set, CY-2, Navigation Hyper-Link, GY-2, MY-2 2) Max all relevant navigation skills related to speed and mwd cap usage 3) Train for a Crusader. 4) Fit it with an Improved Cloak I, Gistii-A MWD, Cap rech T2, 2x Domination overdrives, Local hull Istab, CPR2, and 2x Polycarb rigs. What do you get with this setup ? You can permarun the MWD and fly indefinitely at over 15 Km/sec without any kind of gang bonus. But if you have to cloak, you will still be able to fly at 300 m/sec
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:53:00 - [17] Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: Xaen Oh yeah, gang bonuses + boosters. But I can get a vaga to 29km/s solo Crow can actually hit something while going above 4 though 128 DPS (raw) from launchers and drones alone and it's still twice as fast. All skills at V in a Crow w/tech II launchers gets about 65 DPS (raw), and all kinetic. Still laughing? ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
madaluap Gallente Mercenary Forces Exquisite Malevolence	Posted - 2007.09.26 17:55:00 - [18] Edited by: madaluap on 26/09/2007 17:55:49 Originally by: Reem Fairchild Originally by: Slayton Ford I wouldn't use a Inty for running around valuables. Use a cov ops instead. They warp faster (13AU/s) and are pretty much impossible to lock before they cloak. Some interceptors (about half of them) warp at 13.5 AU/s as well. And a fast interceptor is far more survivable than a covert ops in 0.0 (in low-sec it's about the same, but in low-sec any fast frigate will do anyway). Especially an interceptor with a cloak on it. Nearly impossible to catch. Ill have to disagree on this. If a cov op jumps into a large bubble camp, the covert op will press mwd+cloak and speed out of the bubble with a speed of 2-3 km/s for about 10 seconds. You need to speed up, but you also "slide" 10 km, just from decreasing your speed. After that just warp off. A claw would get dual webbed by a huggin, chased by vagabond/other inty or an interdictor/destroyer would damage you a lot. With a cov op people dont know where you mwded to. they cant lock you, even with a 3* sensorboost Stilleto. So you are near invulnerable. _________________________________________________ Breetime A killmail!11!1 omgrawr: BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Semkhet KR0M The Red Skull	Posted - 2007.09.26 18:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: Xaen Oh yeah, gang bonuses + boosters. But I can get a vaga to 29km/s solo Crow can actually hit something while going above 4 though 128 DPS (raw) from launchers and drones alone and it's still twice as fast. All skills at V in a Crow w/tech II launchers gets about 65 DPS (raw), and all kinetic. Still laughing? Hmmm.... I'd like to see how stable is the orbit, because at those speeds, you can't fly the thing manually, and if the orbit isn't stable, you must fly closer to the target in order to maintain it within disruptor range (you're solo right ?) to compensate the fluctuations, what in turn implies a smaller orbit, and hence less speed. I've pushed a Machariel solo to 8.6 Km/sec and 12.5 Km/sec lately, but even with 3 istabs and 3 polycarbs, orbit wasn't as clean a I wished. And actually the Crow can do a bit better with 1 BCU, 3xdread guristas or Caldari Navy launchers and faction bloodclaws.
Marcathonas Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.26 18:03:00 - [20] Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: Xaen Oh yeah, gang bonuses + boosters. But I can get a vaga to 29km/s solo Crow can actually hit something while going above 4 though 128 DPS (raw) from launchers and drones alone and it's still twice as fast. All skills at V in a Crow w/tech II launchers gets about 65 DPS (raw), and all kinetic. Still laughing? Yep. If you aren't going to be scoop deploying, factor in the fact that your drones might just die. Oh hey that crow doesn't look as bad now (Ignore me I'm a**** and fit cloaks on my vaga :()
Xaen Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.09.26 18:14:00 - [21] Originally by: Semkhet Originally by: Xaen Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: Xaen Oh yeah, gang bonuses + boosters. But I can get a vaga to 29km/s solo Crow can actually hit something while going above 4 though 128 DPS (raw) from launchers and drones alone and it's still twice as fast. All skills at V in a Crow w/tech II launchers gets about 65 DPS (raw), and all kinetic. Still laughing? Hmmm.... I'd like to see how stable is the orbit, because at those speeds, you can't fly the thing manually, and if the orbit isn't stable, you must fly closer to the target in order to maintain it within disruptor range (you're solo right ?) to compensate the fluctuations, what in turn implies a smaller orbit, and hence less speed. I've pushed a Machariel solo to 8.6 Km/sec and 12.5 Km/sec lately, but even with 3 istabs and 3 polycarbs, orbit wasn't as clean a I wished. And actually the Crow can do a bit better with 1 BCU, 3xdread guristas or Caldari Navy launchers and faction bloodclaws. The only purpose of such extreme speeds is to catch things that are also going crazy fast and none of those things have much of a tank so you don't really need to orbit. Why would you use a 29km/s tackler to catch a ratting battleship? ----------- Support fixing the EVE UI
Sarin Kahsra	Posted - 2007.09.26 18:54:00 - [22] Each race has 2 interceptors, one will warp 13.5 AU/s This is the one you want for your purposes. So if you go with Caldari I believe the Raptor is the one you want. There are also rigs that will raise your warp speed called hyperspatial velocity optimizer 1. With 2 of these you can go about 19.2 AU/s. Saves some time warping. Throw on a micro warp drive and a cloak just for good measure. You can't carry a lot but if your just moving blueprints and other small stuff it works good.
slothe Caldari 0utbreak	Posted - 2007.09.26 19:52:00 - [23] Edited by: slothe on 26/09/2007 19:52:04 Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 26/09/2007 15:38:15 With an afterburner that sounds about right. Fit a microwarpdrive and a pretty standard setup will take you upto 6km/s though. If you need the little extra cargo space an interceptor provides over a shuttle then fly an inty as they're difficult to tackle in low sec unless you jump into a dedicated camp or get smartbombed. If you're moving items that use less than 10m3 cargospace (blueprints for example) then just use a shuttle. forget this thread welsh come back , do i need to come back to venal to get you?
Reem Fairchild Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2007.09.26 20:43:00 - [24] Originally by: madaluap Ill have to disagree on this. If a cov op jumps into a large bubble camp, the covert op will press mwd+cloak and speed out of the bubble with a speed of 2-3 km/s for about 10 seconds. You need to speed up, but you also "slide" 10 km, just from decreasing your speed. After that just warp off. And a fast interceptor with a cloak will do the exact same, except it will be faster. And should it get locked and fail to cloak it still has its high speed as a backup. Also, when warping into a bubble an interceptor will always be able to make it to the gate even if it gets webbed, as long as it turns its mwd on before they web it.
Dheorl	Posted - 2007.09.26 21:04:00 - [25] For low sec I always find the daredevil rocks, you can warp as fast as any other ship can CLOAK and fit a med extender/few resistance mods to help protect against smartbombs as well as a MWD to get some pretty reasonable speeds just incase you need it.
Kuzya Morozov Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate	Posted - 2007.09.26 21:41:00 - [26] Originally by: Kimi I am a carebear and seldom go to under .5 space, but some good defense would also be nice just in case, but mainly just looking for speed for running around all over. It's sometimes good to read the OP's post instead of seeing how big your epeen can get. training skills... :(
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.26 21:47:00 - [27] Edited by: Acoco Osiris on 26/09/2007 21:47:34 First of all, the 50km/sec inties use deadspace 10MN MWDs. Impractical, but they do get your inties going crazy fast. And as for the guy saying "why these crazy speeds", up to a point, you need every m/s to increase your transversal, as well as missile avoidance. Oh yeah, and both covert ops ships and inties are good ideas. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Marcathonas Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.26 21:56:00 - [28] Originally by: Acoco Osiris Edited by: Acoco Osiris on 26/09/2007 21:47:34 First of all, the 50km/sec inties use deadspace 10MN MWDs. Impractical, but they do get your inties going crazy fast. And as for the guy saying "why these crazy speeds", up to a point, you need every m/s to increase your transversal, as well as missile avoidance. Oh yeah, and both covert ops ships and inties are good ideas. Ever tried to fit a deadspace 10mn MWD onto a ship with less than 50 grid? Hint: you can't. It's gistii A-type 1mn.
Acoco Osiris Gallente Sublime.	Posted - 2007.09.26 22:05:00 - [29] Originally by: Marcathonas Originally by: Acoco Osiris Edited by: Acoco Osiris on 26/09/2007 21:47:34 First of all, the 50km/sec inties use deadspace 10MN MWDs. Impractical, but they do get your inties going crazy fast. And as for the guy saying "why these crazy speeds", up to a point, you need every m/s to increase your transversal, as well as missile avoidance. Oh yeah, and both covert ops ships and inties are good ideas. Ever tried to fit a deadspace 10mn MWD onto a ship with less than 50 grid? Hint: you can't. It's gistii A-type 1mn. Hint: You can. Engineering V, rigs, and MaPCs/officer RCUs. Impractical for real use, but for speed records? Plenty easy. ------------------------------ One more soldier off to war... And one Velator in my hangars.
Marcathonas Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2007.09.26 22:25:00 - [30] Edited by: Marcathonas on 26/09/2007 22:29:00 Originally by: Acoco Osiris Hint: You can. Engineering V, rigs, and MaPCs/officer RCUs. Impractical for real use, but for speed records? Plenty easy. Max PG of a crow is 117.37, 3 vigor MAPC 2 t2 rigs max skills. Swapping one the MAPC for a drac RCU drops the PG to 116 No, you can't. Edit: clarified RCU is useless and that 25 != 37. Top PG implant increases limit to 123, and you lose the snake omega. Not worth it.

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