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Feng Schui
Minmatar
The Ninja Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.27 03:27:00 -
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Edited by: Feng Schui on 27/09/2007 03:28:33
Here's the situation.
I uncloak, flying my pilgrim. I initiate my dual tracking disruptors. Enemy is closing. I deploy the drones. Enemy starts orbiting. I see his weapons going off, but no damage messages are coming up. I figure its server lag.
I try to deploy my drones again. All items are currently busy.
And then it happens. I get disconnected from Vent, XFire, and about 10 seconds later, the Eve Window closes. Connection to the server was disabled. I look at my roadrunner modem, the only light on is the power light. I reset the modem, log back in. I'm in a pod.
In all honesty, I did not ctrl-q, or exit the game intentionally. I am not going to petition, because it was on my end, not CCP's end.
EDIT: I only engage what I know I can kill, with about 90% certainty.
Should the kill-mail be posted, or not?
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Cypherous
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.09.27 03:31:00 -
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If he landed the final blow eah i would post it, its a ship lost regardless of how it was lost, aslong as its not to a velator or something :P
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Tortun Nahme
Minmatar
Heimatar Services Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.27 03:31:00 -
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I'd say posting it would be the honourable thing to do even if it wasn't your fault, I'm just wishing it had been me on the other end 
oh well you whooped me and I can admit it!
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Rooker
Lysian Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:44:00 -
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Yeah. Just add a comment to KM.
I once started a suicide attack on a mining barge and my PC chose the moment I opened fire to reset. I logged back on and both of us were sitting in the belt in our pods. Nearly ruptured internal organs laughing about it.
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This Space For Rent |
Please Hold
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:58:00 -
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Lol at being wracked with indecision about posting e-honour killmail in internet spaceship game.
JUST LOL.
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Mort Sinious
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:01:00 -
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It's actually sad that there are so few people with some kind of honour in "an internet game with spaceships"
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Scouteye
Ghost Vanguard
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:07:00 -
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always post them, you earn a lot more respect posting loss mails than posting noob ship kills by the dozen.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:07:00 -
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 Originally by: Mort Sinious
It's actually sad that there are so few people with some kind of honour in "an internet game with spaceships"
Agreed.
And so sad that there are so many that would mock it.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Night Tripper
Es and Whizz
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:22:00 -
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Originally by: Avon
Originally by: Mort Sinious
It's actually sad that there are so few people with some kind of honour in "an internet game with spaceships"
Agreed.
And so sad that there are so many that would mock it.
and so sad that anyone should care about a killmail this much.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.28 12:32:00 -
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Originally by: Night Tripper
and so sad that anyone should care about a killmail this much.
Why?
Because he is worried about his reputation, even in a game?
What is so bad about that? If anything it is one of the best things about Eve. It is one of the main consequences of the single server nature of this game.
I have far more time for people who are willing to question how their actions may affect how they are pervceived in a community they care about, than those who spend far too much time trying to explain to us why we should not care about the community at all.
It may be "only an internet spaceships game", but it isn't just you playing. There are real people sharing this experience with you, and some of us know how to behave "in public".
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
Daisho Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:02:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
Should the kill-mail be posted, or not?
Answer this simple question: "why not?"
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Above comments are my personal views
Oveur >Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
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Amanda Wilkins
Caldari
Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish
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Posted - 2007.09.28 13:19:00 -
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Post it. It is honor, and honor is a rate thing. It leads to respect. Respect is earned, cannot be bought with ISK or ú.
Amanda
Amanda Wilkins
CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish
Protector of the Bunnies of Stain
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Wyehr
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:18:00 -
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I post everything. It is a good habit to get into, keeps you honest.
Once, I got popped by rats. No players on the lossmail at all. I posted it anyway.
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Flitz Farseeker
Gallente
InQuest Ascension
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:27:00 -
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Post it and petition it.
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Avon
Caldari
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:37:00 -
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Originally by: Flitz Farseeker
Post it and petition it.
Petition it why?
His internet connection dropped - hardly CCP's fault.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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Cypherous
Minmatar
Liberty Rogues
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:38:00 -
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Originally by: Wyehr
I post everything. It is a good habit to get into, keeps you honest.
Once, I got popped by rats. No players on the lossmail at all. I posted it anyway.
I don't bother posting losses to NPC's where there are no players involved and generally i tell corp members not to bother posting them either but i guess its personal choice :)
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Myra2007
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:44:00 -
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Post the mail. No matter whats the situation if you dont post it but somebody sees it some other kb - well how does it look? You will be flagged as logoffski or kb-cheater. If you post it theres nothing more you could've done to rectify the situation.
And plz. do not petition it as some people here say. From your story theres absolutely nothing that indicates a server problem or smthg(you got dropped from vent/xfire first - so its an isp thing). With all due respect petitioning such losses is for namby-pambies and sour losers.
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:55:00 -
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always post the mail. you know whoever killed you is going to post it, so what do you have to lose?
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:57:00 -
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Edited by: ry ry on 28/09/2007 14:57:54
i also think CCP should have a killboard and post everybody they manage to kill with lag/CTD, complete with smack.
Eris > "this ***lord tried to use a jumpgate in a faction ship! lol!"
Oveure > "LMAO UPGRADE UR RAM NOOB ROFL!"
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Drykor
Minmatar
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:04:00 -
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I was scouting outside a station once in a stabber, in the middle of an enemy gang. I kept in dock range and I would just have docked if they opened fire.
The thing was.. there was a thunderstorm going on here, and at some point the lightning struck nearby and BAM, no more internet. When I logged back on I was in a pod.
Well I posted it anyway but it sucked.
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Taram Caldar
Sturmgrenadier Inc
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:08:00 -
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Post every lossmail that has players on it. If you wanna post losses to missions/rats be my guest. But the only ones people care about are when you kill, or are killed by, other players.
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.28 16:06:00 -
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Unless you are concerned about e-peen.. don't bother with KB's at all
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This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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Yillb
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:15:00 -
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Edited by: Yillb on 28/09/2007 17:20:02
Edited by: Yillb on 28/09/2007 17:19:41
As a newer player if I'm reading this thread right, whenever you get your ship blown-up you need to go out of the game to post that mail message you get? What? Have fun with that. It would seem that the fact that you're questioning it, to me anyway, means that it isn't all that important.
Besides where is 'Posting a Killmail' covered in the tutorial? 
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Illyria Ambri
RennTech
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:31:00 -
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Originally by: Yillb
Edited by: Yillb on 28/09/2007 17:20:02
Edited by: Yillb on 28/09/2007 17:19:41
As a newer player if I'm reading this thread right, whenever you get your ship blown-up you need to go out of the game to post that mail message you get? What? Have fun with that. It would seem that the fact that you're questioning it, to me anyway, means that it isn't all that important.
Besides where is 'Posting a Killmail' covered in the tutorial?
You do NOT need to do anything out of game.. including posting on a KB.
Its your choice to do so.
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This is not War... This is pest control - Dalek Sek
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:33:00 -
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You got popped. I'd post the loss. Losing connection doesn't make his kill any less real. Certain members of KoS alliance loved to claim they got disconnected, or had lag, and used that as an excuse to not poss carrier loss mails. To put it mildly, I hold zero respect for KoS as an alliance.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
[PIA] Recruitment Thread |
An Anarchyyt
Gallente
Sublime.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Yillb
Edited by: Yillb on 28/09/2007 17:20:02
Edited by: Yillb on 28/09/2007 17:19:41
As a newer player if I'm reading this thread right, whenever you get your ship blown-up you need to go out of the game to post that mail message you get? What? Have fun with that. It would seem that the fact that you're questioning it, to me anyway, means that it isn't all that important.
Besides where is 'Posting a Killmail' covered in the tutorial?
Certain corporations/alliances/whatever have what is called a Killboard. Basically, it is something that is on a website, and shows different players kills and losses.
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
Second, a gentile is a non jewish person
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Kazuma Saruwatari
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:14:00 -
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I once had a director who demanded all kill/loss KM's be posted, including that of NPC losses.
Embarrasingly, we all had to comply (some left because of this ludicrous requirement), because we were in a middle of a combat operation in lowsec.
The sudden influx of NPC lossmails crashed our killboard, and our CEO went "wtf?!".
Said director is no longer part of the corp.
On the idea of honor:
its true that posting one's lossmail yourself proves that you are honest, which is a rare thing IRL, let alone EVE. Honesty goes a long way. End of.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Posted - 2007.09.28 19:28:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
I once had a director who demanded all kill/loss KM's be posted, including that of NPC losses.
Embarrasingly, we all had to comply (some left because of this ludicrous requirement), because we were in a middle of a combat operation in lowsec.
The sudden influx of NPC lossmails crashed our killboard, and our CEO went "wtf?!".
Said director is no longer part of the corp.
On the idea of honor:
its true that posting one's lossmail yourself proves that you are honest, which is a rare thing IRL, let alone EVE. Honesty goes a long way. End of.
Posting NPC losses is pointless imo. The idea of a killboard crashing because of so many NPC losses is almost as pathetic as those losses making a killboard crash.
Rhaegor Stormborn
Fleet Admiral - Pestilent Industries Amalgamated
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Arii Smith
Caldari
StarHunt
Fallout Project
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Posted - 2007.09.28 20:14:00 -
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Originally by: Kazuma Saruwatari
I once had a director who demanded all kill/loss KM's be posted, including that of NPC losses.
Embarrasingly, we all had to comply (some left because of this ludicrous requirement), because we were in a middle of a combat operation in lowsec.
The sudden influx of NPC lossmails crashed our killboard, and our CEO went "wtf?!".
Said director is no longer part of the corp.
On the idea of honor:
its true that posting one's lossmail yourself proves that you are honest, which is a rare thing IRL, let alone EVE. Honesty goes a long way. End of.
I highly recommend you uninstall now or switch to mining in high-sec if NPC's kill you so often it crashes your KB, I would NOT be talking about that to anyone. I would drink until that memory left me.
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Vandalias
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Posted - 2007.09.29 00:54:00 -
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Originally by: Feng Schui
EDIT: I only engage what I know I can kill, with about 90% certainty.
Which is exactly what is wrong with this game...
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