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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.27 11:39:00 -
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 Originally by: arbalesttom
I thought ccp nerfed nano? How come im seeing ishtars, huginns (and vagas, but hey, there supposed to do that aint it?) owning complete 0.0 with there nano setups? How come im still seeing (rare, i admit it) nanophoons running around? Aint it time to swing another time with the nerfbat?
Bring it on
Vagas need to slow down to hit, actually shield tank, and got its dps nerfed about 20% with the arrival of overheated webs. And, as I point out in other thread, the same happened with the stabber.
Nanoships that don't have to slow down because they use drones or missiles, those are different. In fact, the speed race speed tanks far worse than the others right now.
As far as nanophoons go, well, I guess everyone has their weird setup :) They don't work remotely close as well as they did, and when you add the lows with damage mods (which are 50% effective) you can either fit a crappy tank or put some speed mods and hope to get out of the firing line.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.27 12:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Imho the nano needs a huge slap with the nerfbat. I don't mind frigates doing these stunts, but cruiser sized (and larger) ships should simply not be able to speedtank against everything. Even the Vaga should not.
Ok, everybody, repeat after me. The Vaga does NOT speed tank. Every time it turns on the MWD, it CANNOT hit. Unlike other ships that use missiles and drones and can afford to maintain high speeds and still ganking happily.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.27 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Trishan on 27/09/2007 12:37:30
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Originally by: Cpt Branko
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
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The nano-craze has pretty much destroyed PvP for me
... there is pretty much no way of actually killing them if they are smart ... except your own nanocrap gang (they just run from Huginns/Rapiers).
Make the best possible web 50% and then we've got a deal.
Also, why are you crying that you can't kill them, then list a counter?
Why are you complaining about them not having a counter and then complaining about them running from their counter?
Because the counter does not kill them just scares them away?
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Because people want to be able to kill anything they come across without having to change ships or fittings. 
In a way you are right. Though it is not about not having to change ships or fittings, but about the availability of the counter. Now if you give everyone minmatar cruiser 5, then we've got a deal 
- Blahblahblah safespot blahblahblah counter probe them
- Now, if you give everyone probing skills 5, then we've got a deal.
BTW, this thread is proof that you don't know what you are doing. A few slow ships can hit and kill a nanowhatever if they stop using silly powerball+f1-f8. Start flying one and you'll see how to do it, maybe.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.27 14:39:00 -
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Originally by: Avataris
Nano-Ishtars are not overpowered. In order to be effective with their speed tank they have to stay outside of webrange.
This means they can't effectively scoop and redeploy their drones, as closing range brings them into neut/nos/web range.
This gives you the perfect opportunity to web and kill the drones. The ishtar itself does hardly any damage at all, as with a nanofit it usually fields just 3 150mm small turrets.
Ah, they're not overpowered, but sure they haven't been affected by overheated webs as much. It gets the same dps by having to orbit 3km further away, once out of non overheated web range the drones probably won't be webbed, and if you are webbing the drones you aren't webbing the ship.
What will happen when the scoop + redeploy thing stops working and drone bays get changed, who knows.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:58:00 -
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Originally by: d026
the problems with the current nanofag are:
1. speeds are to high for the server & client to handle. if you see your enemy at 500m the instance you activate your webs he will be at 50k due to sync issues/delay. this happens way to often and is extremely anoying. eve is not a fps game!
The other party is equally affected. As I posted somewhere else overview updates far too slowly than it did before. Coincidentally when this slowness was added people reported increased fps. Its unbelievable that, to this day, eve cannot put a damn different number 85 times in a second.
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Trishan
Green Men Incorporated
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Posted - 2007.09.29 19:50:00 -
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Originally by: Letti Casta
Just a quick tip, don't lie on the forums if you want anyone to take you seriously.
And about the topic, if you can't find a way to counter nano-ships, just quit eve, make it a happier place for us all. 
"OMG the vigil slipped away! NERF! NO COUNTER!".
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