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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.28 05:10:00 -
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And they're still gonna fight with IAC and -A-, its just SirMolle is gonna throw a hissy fit at Seleene first. Then they'll kiss and go back to sieging by making nodes unplayable.
And hopefully IAAAC will fight them at the RIGHT time next time, and stop them at the cyno jammers. Come the fk on, you have carrier support and they don't. If you can't stop them with cyno jammers then you might as well pack up and move to empire.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.28 05:33:00 -
[32]
 Originally by: ForumPosterAlt
And they're still gonna fight with IAC and -A-, its just SirMolle is gonna throw a hissy fit at Seleene first. Then they'll kiss and go back to sieging by making nodes unplayable.
And hopefully IAAAC will fight them at the RIGHT time next time, and stop them at the cyno jammers. Come the fk on, you have carrier support and they don't. If you can't stop them with cyno jammers then you might as well pack up and move to empire.
IAC/-A- is doing a great job TBH. They are taking the brunt of "the best" that EvE has to offer, and are holding their ground to this point, allowing RSF time to take out pets to the south.
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:13:00 -
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Stop calling them the best or you're just admitting defeat before it actually happens.
MC's greatest weapon is the unbelievable hype that surrounds them.
They've failed their objectives before and they'll fail them again.
This focus on k/d ratio is the most ******** thing ever to measure success by in an end game that is about sovereignty.
Fact is that everyone in this war that didn't get pushed out of the sov. game has gained money since it started. Perhaps except bob, they've lost some major assets.
But as far as sub-super-capital ship losses for this entire war, both sides make more isk than they've lost.
So measuring success by K/D is stupid.
What matters is holding space and taking space.
MC is good at battles, whoop dee freaking doo. They've never had to worry about defending large amounts of space, and they still don't.
And bob, without their I-WIN button, we've seen how good they are at taking or holding objectives.
So, whos "the best" again?
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Cadela Fria
Amarr
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:17:00 -
[34]
Jealousy is a terrible thing 
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ArmyOfMe
hirr
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:34:00 -
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I think the main problem with mc is that they have grown so big that nobody really has the isk to hire them anymore, even bob are paying them in regions these days so i guess that just showes the price it would take to hire them
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.09.28 06:40:00 -
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Im so jealous, well maybe another bob region will cheer me up.
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Rennard
Aku Soku Zan
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Posted - 2007.09.28 07:22:00 -
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MC will never take contract against BOB, anyone with some brain can understand that. No matter what they say, if they keep having their HQ under BOB borders, not gonna happen...
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 08:50:00 -
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Originally by: Trask Kilraen
Rumor has it Cyvok offered them 10 Bill to take a contract against BoB abd they declined to accept.
I have no idea if it's actually true or not
MC will side with the side that is winning.
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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Elder Bob
GoonFleet
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:41:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
I sincerely doubt that when BoB is defeated, The Coalition will never allow entities like MC or Outbreak to survive. Saying that MC are neutral mercs or that Outbreak just cares about shooting people is like saying I'm a neutral observer in this war. Everyone knows I'm biased as hell towards The Coalition, just as everyone knows MC and Outbreak are BoB shocktroops.
Hiring MC is like giving hundreds of billions of isk to BoB and have BoB shoot you with your own isk.
We can take MC's space and possibly shatter their cap fleet, but I think killing them would be incredibly difficult. As for 0utbreak, I can't see how we'd have a hope of breaking them.
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Lee Bian
Amarryan Nations
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 09:46:00 -
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Originally by: Elder Bob
We can take MC's space and possibly shatter their cap fleet, but I think killing them would be incredibly difficult. As for 0utbreak, I can't see how we'd have a hope of breaking them.
maybe we can break them if you get 0ut
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Murdoc Messenger
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:15:00 -
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What I wonder, is when all the people that jumped ship from they're own alliances to join MC as mercs, because fighting in lagged blobbs, defending systems, beating head against a bubble-wall, where not they're cup'o'tea. When will they find out that the once proud mercenaries that got to fight under various conditions, but always with an end in sight... are now just another alliance fighting for they're space?
I don't believe the MC as we see it today, are what the pilots joined up for.
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Backdoor Bandit
Minmatar Gay Rights League
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Posted - 2007.09.28 10:58:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Everyone knows I'm biased as hell towards The Coalition, just as everyone knows MC and Outbreak are BoB shocktroops.
I didn't know that, I wonder what else I know or don't know. Who knows?
I do know one thing though, You might know Derek and Derek might know you, but you evidently don't know *commonly used slang reference for excrement*
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zilllii
Squirrel Power
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:11:00 -
[43]
Originally by: Backdoor Bandit
but you evidently don't know *commonly used slang reference for excrement*
and with your name you most likely know anything there is to know about that.
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Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
Love the new need for speed initiative.
Pilots involved in a fleet battle can post on the forum and get a reply about wha |
Dobbick
Amarr
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:26:00 -
[44]
Originally by: zilllii
Originally by: Backdoor Bandit
but you evidently don't know *commonly used slang reference for excrement*
and with your name you most likely know anything there is to know about that.
Ouch smacking BB thats not good wars have started for less.
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And honesty means never having to say "Please don't flush me down the toilet" -- Bob |
gh0stdevil
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:58:00 -
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Edited by: gh0stdevil on 28/09/2007 11:58:22
wrong alt =/ |
Silent butViolent
Harder Better Faster Stronger
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Posted - 2007.09.28 11:59:00 -
[46]
Edited by: Silent butViolent on 28/09/2007 12:00:31
Just think...MC could have been ASCN pets.
Way back when, MC put feelers out to several (maybe just 2) large alliances to see about forming a "special relationship". One of the stipulations was having their own part of space with no interaction from the original owners. Molle said yes, Cyvok said no.
I kind of think that was the closest MC ever came to becoming a true mercenary alliance. They really put themselves out there for the highest bidder so to speak. Once the deal was made though, no looking back, you don't bite the hand that feeds. And don't think BoB hands aren't feeding MC. 
Sigh, now the great MC are MCJNAB "Mercenaries Just Not Against BoB" |
Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:05:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Rennard
MC will never take contract against BOB, anyone with some brain can understand that. No matter what they say, if they keep having their HQ under BOB borders, not gonna happen...
Never is a long time.
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Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |
Skye Cloud
Waylander 01
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Posted - 2007.09.28 14:36:00 -
[48]
Hi,
Valid point here, since most of seems to be siding with the coalition side, if we all chipped in for "silly" money. Say 200 Bil off the top of my head.
For MC to fight Bob till their destruction.
Would they go for it?
Question i'd love to hear answered.
SC
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Howling Jinn
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:09:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Backdoor Bandit
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu
Everyone knows I'm biased as hell towards The Coalition, just as everyone knows MC and Outbreak are BoB shocktroops.
I didn't know that, I wonder what else I know or don't know. Who knows?
I do know one thing though, You might know Derek and Derek might know you, but you evidently don't know *commonly used slang reference for excrement*
\o/
you made the homoalt angry astarte
now hes gonna buy more gtc's 
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Omega Man
The Geddy Foundation
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Posted - 2007.09.28 15:20:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Skye Cloud
Hi,
Valid point here, since most of seems to be siding with the coalition side, if we all chipped in for "silly" money. Say 200 Bil off the top of my head.
For MC to fight Bob till their destruction.
Would they go for it?
Question i'd love to hear answered.
SC
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MC prefer plans with a bit more serious thought in them I am afraid.
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Happy user of CAOD troll cleaner
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=584345 |
Veritorium
Minmatar
Minmatar Gay Rights League
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Posted - 2007.10.01 15:58:00 -
[51]
smacking BB is like smacking your old grandma about.
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ry ry
StateCorp
The State
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Posted - 2007.10.01 16:10:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Veritorium
smacking BB is like smacking your old grandma about.
incredibly satisfying, with a just a hint of a sexual thrill?
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Algorithm 5
Caldari
Hakata Group
Blade.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:31:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Rennard
MC will never take contract against BOB, anyone with some brain can understand that. No matter what they say, if they keep having their HQ under BOB borders, not gonna happen...
Seek to the North young'ling, far to the North.
Beyond Jita and the bloated home of commerce.
Beyond the Gurista, their wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Beyond the falling Empire, set upon by sharpened blades of steel.
There you shall find the clue that will lead to the unlearning of your ways.
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
Mass Destruction.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 22:06:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Omega Man
MC prefer plans with a bit more serious thought in them I am afraid.
Personally I think it's very implausible that RSF is doing all that damage to BoB without a plan. They obviously have a plan, and right now it looks to be working.
From what I've read from most Goons, the perception of MC is that of a BoB pet. They feel revealing their plans to MC is no better than eve-mailing it to SirMolle. Whether true or not is irrelevant since perception is all the matters here.
So if RSF did want to hire MC, under MC rules, I don't really see why they wouldn't accept if a price can be made. RSF definitely have a plan, the only matter would be price.
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0August0
Gallente
Gooch Unlimited
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Posted - 2007.10.01 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Algorithm 5
Originally by: Rennard
MC will never take contract against BOB, anyone with some brain can understand that. No matter what they say, if they keep having their HQ under BOB borders, not gonna happen...
Seek to the North young'ling, far to the North.
Beyond Jita and the bloated home of commerce.
Beyond the Gurista, their wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Beyond the falling Empire, set upon by sharpened blades of steel.
There you shall find the clue that will lead to the unlearning of your ways.
That is freakin' DEEP!
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Regards,
August |
Taedrin
Gallente
Magellan Exploration and Survey
Rare Faction
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Posted - 2007.10.02 00:07:00 -
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Seleene has stated that MC wants certain things if they are to go after BoB.
1) A lot of funding. Taking a contract up against BoB would cost them a lot of money. So in order for a contract to be profitable, they would have to charge more money than it costs them.
2) A plan. A GOOD plan. Seleene has stated they need a plan to go up against BoB. They won't just take a contract that tells them to "kill BoB". The need a contract with specific objectives.
3) A fleet. I'm not certain about this one, but I believe that Seleene said that MC wasn't willing to take on BoB solo.
In essence, MC will only take a contract up against BoB if they can be guaranteed to win. Because if they DON'T win...
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2007.10.02 01:39:00 -
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See where things are in three months or so.
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Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.02 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Murdoc Messenger
Just out of curiousity... would 5 billion isk/week be enough for MC to declare war on BOB?
Probably not. Besides, Seleene has said before they won't take a 'oh just wardec and fight bob' contract.
MC apparently build their own titan, which makes one ask what BoB actually paid them (could've been the comps/bps to build their own titans) or what the terms of the contract were.
Seleene posted what the most serious offer they got once was, and tbh, it was alot to most people, but given the amount of assets MC would risk, it was a joke of an amount.
I think if someone presented MC with an actual plan, and a 12-digit figure they'd do it, unless they're on contract at that time anyways.
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Wigglytuff
Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.10.02 02:47:00 -
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Originally by: ForumPosterAlt
This focus on k/d ratio is the most ******** thing ever to measure success by in an end game that is about sovereignty.
Except not all of EVE players care about sov and unbearably laggy fleet fights that come with it.
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deadtearisfatlol
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Posted - 2007.10.02 02:49:00 -
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i offer MC 1 million dollars to kill rise above
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