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Astarte Nosferatu
We Know Derek Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:44:00 -
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So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
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Lord Eidion
S-44
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Eidion on 29/09/2007 01:52:24
Originally by: Fun Bunny I just don't see what motivation the bob pets has to stand by bob. Every alliance that has switched sides from bob to ragoon has been given space and even stations, for free. It's not like ragoon doesn't have more space than they'll ever be able to utilize even with a 5000 man alliance. And their only ambition in eve is to destroy bob so it's not like they'd have anything to fear from them if they switched sides, or just stepped out of the conflict entirely.
Nice to see the goons on the march though I'm not too sure what their true motives are.... I atleast know what to expect from bob... and what's to say that free space deals(from RSF) ain't just a cheap PR trick to rob gbc from pet income? After all an alliance that has such extensive meta-gaming skills, talking spying here (wich I btw find kinda cool) and seem to twist and turn the truth back and forth every other 2 weeks, can it really be trusted?
just the views of a not so innocent bystander (capitals sell for billions and allmost in the hundreds tha last few weeks).
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Tef42
Gallente NYIT Gangstaz SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: Calimor
Quote: Once again proving Goons are not too smart.
I love when losing alliances say we're not too smart. Because losing to people "not too smart" surely makes you look like smart!
Anyway that comes from someone called Good_as_Dead which is strangely fitting.
Ok......put 15 mentally challenged people that are REALLY ****ed against 2 normal folks, then tell those mentally challenged people that there is cake inside of those 2 "normal" folks and see what happens and who wins! So your logic is flawed.
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Lord Eidion
S-44
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Posted - 2007.09.29 02:03:00 -
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Originally by: Tef42
Ok......put 15 mentally challenged people that are REALLY ****ed against 2 normal folks, then tell those mentally challenged people that there is cake inside of those 2 "normal" folks and see what happens and who wins! So your logic is flawed.
Cake?! Inside people? Where... gimme cookie... NOW!!
seriously made me LOL
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Two Beans
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 02:09:00 -
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Originally by: The Hooch you have stolen 2 minutes of my life, give it back please
Your crew has stolen more than that from me in evemails about your stillborn wardecs. _____________
2B
Tao that is spoken is not Tao. - 老子 道德經
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Brennah
Minmatar GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 02:18:00 -
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Originally by: Two Beans
Originally by: The Hooch you have stolen 2 minutes of my life, give it back please
Your crew has stolen more than that from me in evemails about your stillborn wardecs.
Isn't that the truth
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Kubera
Amarr Rakasha Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.29 02:38:00 -
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75th in one piece of a goon threadnought! grow up...
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Mr Broker
Station Gremlings
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Posted - 2007.09.29 02:39:00 -
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RMF are a particular breed of cluelessness that make this game worth playing.
You then realize why some people hold their own space while others have to pay for it.
Being a pet, is the worst status you can achieve in this game. You're better off in empire to be honest.
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Liet Traep
Minmatar Black Lance Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.29 03:17:00 -
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When Xetic fell CoRM became a founding member of ASCN to stay in Feyth. Then when ASCN fell to BoB they threw in with BoB and paid for the privilege of using the same outposts they help build. When you play the traitor's game expect you can't be suprised when your so called allies in BoB betray you.
P.S. I'm a little biased where ASCN, CoRm and BoB are concerned. Doesn't mean what I said isn't true.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:00:00 -
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Actions have consequences. Everything BoB has done over the years, all the metagaming, all the bad form, all the spies, all the griefing, all the hubris, all the arrogance, it's all coming home to roost. If you hitch your wagon to the BoB train, you are accepting that all these things will be rebounded on you as their clients.
You have no right to complain, you knew that BoB had enemies when you sold out to them. Their enemies are fighting them back, with the same disregard for boundaries and rules that BoB showed when they were the aggressors. I have zero sympathy.
EXE, Aftermath...I'd start worrying.
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:00:00 -
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Aparently, they didn't learn the lesson about metagaming and spying when BoB took their space and they chose to rent it back from them. 
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CHAOS100
Momentum. The Reckoning.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:10:00 -
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Bending over may have been the honourable thing back then, but now they see it hurts in the end. --------------
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Lochmar Fiendhiem
Caldari International Multi-Player Consortium Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:15:00 -
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Originally by: CHAOS100 Bending over may have been the honourable thing back then, but now they see it hurts in the end.
zing!
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Ignition SemperFi
The Arrow Project Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2007.09.29 04:18:00 -
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im in your channelz stealin your intelz
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Taj Zela
Minmatar Haha It Is To Laugh
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Posted - 2007.09.29 05:33:00 -
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Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Actions have consequences. Everything BoB has done over the years, all the metagaming, all the bad form, all the spies, all the griefing, all the hubris, all the arrogance, it's all coming home to roost. If you hitch your wagon to the BoB train, you are accepting that all these things will be rebounded on you as their clients.
You have no right to complain, you knew that BoB had enemies when you sold out to them. Their enemies are fighting them back, with the same disregard for boundaries and rules that BoB showed when they were the aggressors. I have zero sympathy.
EXE, Aftermath...I'd start worrying.
You know I agree. But since I use to be in RA I'd hardly say bob is any different than any major alliance. But I wont miss em.
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hellsknights
Hells Angels Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 05:36:00 -
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Originally by: Calimor
Quote: Once again proving Goons are not too smart.
I love when losing alliances say we're not too smart. Because losing to people "not too smart" surely makes you look like smart!
Anyway that comes from someone called Good_as_Dead which is strangely fitting.
The way you wrote the above paragraph, well especially this part......MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE SMART????
I guess the rumors are right.
recruitment thread Join channel Hells Angels Inc
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Atama Cardel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Kubera 75th in one piece of a goon threadnought! grow up...
You think this is a threadnought? You need to raise your standards a bit
Originally by: Odda hey im a gonnie and i like to sue CCP to gett the game to my favor
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 06:16:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 29/09/2007 06:17:56
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
I will keep this quote from you Astarte, you have the tendency to switch on this issue quite alot, so i will make sure to throw it back at you when the time comes.
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Actions have consequences. Everything BoB has done over the years, all the metagaming, all the bad form, all the spies, all the griefing, all the hubris, all the arrogance, it's all coming home to roost. If you hitch your wagon to the BoB train, you are accepting that all these things will be rebounded on you as their clients.
Imagine what happens when you affiliate with the Goons  |

Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.29 06:18:00 -
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You forgot to sign your post,
-dbp
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WraithFire
Cassandra's Light Dark Matter Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.29 06:20:00 -
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Originally by: dastommy79
Originally by: Kozak BoB went public and threatend everyone living in 0.0 and not paying them. They want to take every region and make everyone pay them rent. Goons have many allies and don't require payment.
I'd rather ally myself wit the goons then pay someone to live in 0.0. After our enemies are dispersed, standings will probably get reset and we'll find new targets, but currently there is only one outspoken threat to everyone in living in 0.0 space. If you are a pet, you don't understand this.
I've been saying the same damn thing for months but with tons of smack mixed into it.
When will they wake up and see what they got themselves into?:
When they are sitting in empire in a shell of an alliance with months of income given to protectors who had no right to call themselves that. Then they realize, omg we ****** up bad on this one.
I could not agree more. BoB's audacity for such a declaration that 0.0 is somewhat destined for them is unacceptable. They are in a delusional limbo that after a year of war, they would emerge victorious. Well....I would not be counting the chicks before it hatch. I would like to see as to what Mr. Psyduck or ugly ducking or whatever duck or peking duck, that this war, which they started, will only last a year; then they could collect the rent for everyone coz most of the alliances against them will be dead. We'll see who blinks 
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Carebears? Where?
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Gneeznow
Minmatar North Eastern Swat Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.29 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 29/09/2007 06:17:56
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
I will keep this quote from you Astarte, you have the tendency to switch on this issue quite alot, so i will make sure to throw it back at you when the time comes.
Originally by: Ponderous Thunderstroke Actions have consequences. Everything BoB has done over the years, all the metagaming, all the bad form, all the spies, all the griefing, all the hubris, all the arrogance, it's all coming home to roost. If you hitch your wagon to the BoB train, you are accepting that all these things will be rebounded on you as their clients.
Imagine what happens when you affiliate with the Goons 
that was a fantastic retord, please, post more.
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 07:01:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 29/09/2007 07:01:46
Originally by: Gneeznow
that was a fantastic retord, please, post more.
Coming from someone in Pandemic Legion that is pretty funny, since you took what Astarte was talking about to a whole new level. Like that, you mean? |

Kieranda
Weyland-Yutani Future Technologies Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 09:54:00 -
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Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
you are a terrible poster and a disgrace for Derek stop posting now, using a kindergarten argument "but mommy, they did it first and so can I" will only create a never ending circle jerk of meta-gaming but you surely have thought of that
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Captain Thunk
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 29/09/2007 07:01:46
Originally by: Gneeznow
that was a fantastic retord, please, post more.
Coming from someone in Pandemic Legion that is pretty funny, since you took what Astarte was talking about to a whole new level. Like that, you mean?
Your alt posting has seriously helped your alliance and their friends the last few months Alice. I'm on the verge of believing that only BoB can save Eve myself. Or is it MC in charge now? I forget.
CAPTAIN THUNK
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:24:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk
Your alt posting has seriously helped your alliance and their friends the last few months Alice. I'm on the verge of believing that only BoB can save Eve myself. Or is it MC in charge now? I forget.
CAPTAIN THUNK
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Captain Thunk
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:26:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Your alt posting has seriously helped your alliance and their friends the last few months Alice. I'm on the verge of believing that only BoB can save Eve myself. Or is it MC in charge now? I forget.
CAPTAIN THUNK
Your teen angst feeds my soul.
And I thrive on your persistence
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 29/09/2007 10:29:51
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Your teen angst feeds my soul.
And I thrive on your persistence
Your determination brings me to a new high. |

Captain Thunk
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:38:00 -
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Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Edited by: Alice Cholmondeley on 29/09/2007 10:29:51
Originally by: Captain Thunk
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Your teen angst feeds my soul.
And I thrive on your persistence
Your determination brings me to a new high.
Really?
That's odd as I hardly post. You call that determination? Doesn't seem to make sense to me.
But then I've watched you posting for months desperately trying to infer that BoB (presumably now MC as they've taken charge) are the saviours of Eve and everyone against them are nothing but dirty cheats - a little ironic considering BoBs lustrous history, but hey, it's not looking like logic is your fortT anyway.
Good luck with the continous posting, I'm sure you'll succeed eventually - now that's what I call determination.
CAPTAIN THUNK
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
you are a terrible poster and a disgrace for Derek stop posting now, using a kindergarten argument "but mommy, they did it first and so can I" will only create a never ending circle jerk of meta-gaming but you surely have thought of that
I think you are forgetting what game you're playing here. You're thinking New Testament 'turning the other cheek', while Eve is really Old Testament 'an Eye for an Eye'.
I don't think anyone disputes that retaliating meta-gaming with meta-gaming indeed leads to a downward spiral. But unlike Kindergarten, to follow your analogy, there is no teacher here to punish the first kid who did it. Which leaves no recourse except to retaliate, in kind and with no holds barred.
If CCP had *****ed down on the metagaming bull****, then sure, you'd have a point. But they didn't. They left it to the players to solve it. And the only solution that doesn't involve bending over, is to fight back with the same weapons.
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:46:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Thunk
Really?
That's odd as I hardly post. You call that determination? Doesn't seem to make sense to me.
But then I've watched you posting for months desperately trying to infer that BoB (presumably now MC as they've taken charge) are the saviours of Eve and everyone against them are nothing but dirty cheats - a little ironic considering BoBs lustrous history, but hey, it's not looking like logic is your fortT anyway.
Good luck with the continous posting, I'm sure you'll succeed eventually - now that's what I call determination.
CAPTAIN THUNK
Not really, although it's obivous you don't read my postings. I do find it kind of funny your post sets apart the posting strategy of yourself and Goons alike. But then again, Goons are winter and war combined, i don't have alot of say in that now do i. |
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