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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:48:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
you are a terrible poster and a disgrace for Derek stop posting now, using a kindergarten argument "but mommy, they did it first and so can I" will only create a never ending circle jerk of meta-gaming but you surely have thought of that
I think you are forgetting what game you're playing here. You're thinking New Testament 'turning the other cheek', while Eve is really Old Testament 'an Eye for an Eye'.
I don't think anyone disputes that retaliating meta-gaming with meta-gaming indeed leads to a downward spiral. But unlike Kindergarten, to follow your analogy, there is no teacher here to punish the first kid who did it. Which leaves no recourse except to retaliate, in kind and with no holds barred.
If CCP had *****ed down on the metagaming bull****, then sure, you'd have a point. But they didn't. They left it to the players to solve it. And the only solution that doesn't involve bending over, is to fight back with the same weapons.
and there you have it. we can close the thread now. malachon just killed it. ---
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:48:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Malachon Draco As long as it suits me, i'm ok with it.
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:53:00 -
[63]
Edited by: Grimpak on 29/09/2007 10:52:55
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley as long as I can flame behind an alt, showing that I can't do it like teh goonies, I'm ok with it. oh, I also bend over.
there you have it, it doesn't make more true than what you did now does it? ---
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:54:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Grimpak
there you have it, it doesn't make more true than what you did now does it?
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:55:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Grimpak
there you have it, it doesn't make more true than what you did now does it?
Really, try harder. This is kinda sad.
try?
try what?
I don't even try with you. my worst is enough. ---
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Alice Cholmondeley
I Am Legend
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:57:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Grimpak [ try?
try what?
I don't even try with you. my worst is enough.
You don't seem to try ever It's amazing your tears don't wash away the letters the moment you write them. |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:01:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Grimpak [ try?
try what?
I don't even try with you. my worst is enough.
You don't seem to try ever It's amazing your tears don't wash away the letters the moment you write them.

what? ---
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Isabel Sweet
Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:07:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:08:21 Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:07:19 Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
PS: btw hy grimpak..how are your voices?
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:10:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Grimpak [ try?
try what?
I don't even try with you. my worst is enough.
You don't seem to try ever It's amazing your tears don't wash away the letters the moment you write them.

what?
Don't you think its funny Grimpak, this bobbit hiding behind an alt lashing out at everyone who is against them. I can almost see him, hammering furiously on his keyboard while wiping clean his tearstained glasses.
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Myz Toyou
Rionnag Alba Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:15:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Isabel Sweet Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:08:21 Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:07:19 Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
PS: btw hy grimpak..how are your voices?
Isabel Sweet hits Alice Cholmondeley for max. damage  -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Your signature image exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:15:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Isabel Sweet PS: btw hy grimpak..how are your voices?
still screaming like hell, like always.
they are rather happy tho. merc job has its perks
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley
Originally by: Grimpak [ try?
try what?
I don't even try with you. my worst is enough.
You don't seem to try ever It's amazing your tears don't wash away the letters the moment you write them.

what?
Don't you think its funny Grimpak, this bobbit hiding behind an alt lashing out at everyone who is against them. I can almost see him, hammering furiously on his keyboard while wiping clean his tearstained glasses.
oh man, no need to be that harsh.
he probably uses goggles. ---
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Ramlir
0.0 Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:26:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Grimpak
he probably uses goggles.
Haven't you heard? Zey do nothing!
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Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:30:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Ramlir
Originally by: Grimpak
he probably uses goggles.
Haven't you heard? Zey do nothing!
no wai! ---
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Captain Thunk
Omniscient Order
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:54:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Isabel Sweet
Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
Oh dear Alice, looks like you're being bellowed out by an Alliance mate 
CAPTAIN THUNK
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NO BRAKES
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 12:24:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Isabel Sweet Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:08:21 Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:07:19 Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
PS: btw hy grimpak..how are your voices?
Now here's a bob post that I can get behind.
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Ponderous Thunderstroke
Republic War Machine Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.29 12:57:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Kieranda
Originally by: Astarte Nosferatu So CorM is complaining about their enemies using spies and metagaming while oldschool BoB were the ones to perfect the art of metagaming... You reap what you sow.
you are a terrible poster and a disgrace for Derek stop posting now, using a kindergarten argument "but mommy, they did it first and so can I" will only create a never ending circle jerk of meta-gaming but you surely have thought of that
I think you are forgetting what game you're playing here. You're thinking New Testament 'turning the other cheek', while Eve is really Old Testament 'an Eye for an Eye'.
I don't think anyone disputes that retaliating meta-gaming with meta-gaming indeed leads to a downward spiral. But unlike Kindergarten, to follow your analogy, there is no teacher here to punish the first kid who did it. Which leaves no recourse except to retaliate, in kind and with no holds barred.
If CCP had *****ed down on the metagaming bull****, then sure, you'd have a point. But they didn't. They left it to the players to solve it. And the only solution that doesn't involve bending over, is to fight back with the same weapons.
DINGDINGDINGDINGDING, thread and game winner, in perpetuity, amen. Time to close this thread, nothing more productive can be added.
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Arl
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 12:57:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Isabel Sweet
Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
Isabel Sweet is the best BoB poster.
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Major Stormer
Caldari Copperhead Inc. Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.09.29 13:01:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Arl
Originally by: Isabel Sweet
Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
Isabel Sweet is the best BoB poster.
Ill roll with that.
Originally by: SirMolle Excuse me? BoB slave corp?
k, if thats what you wish, you just got your wish granted. Forever.
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ChoppinBrocolli
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 13:04:00 -
[79]
Originally by: fightnkill RMF, Give the station access to GS and allies, Set GS and allies to red, Set BoB & allies to red.
and u'll live on
No need, we captured both their stations.  _________________________ Looks like we'll have to do the freighter ops in the traditional way again. - MC member |

Two Beans
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 15:25:00 -
[80]
I happen to like the metagaming and political aspects of this game. It sets Eve apart from the rest. If you can't handle the intrigue and drama, perhaps you should take heed to the words of the BoB motivational speaker and consider that maybe, just maybe, 0.0 just isn't for you. If all you guys wanna do is just rat and mine, there's plenty of space in Empire for that sorta thing where you won't be victimized by the actions you fervently complain about. _____________
2B
Tao that is spoken is not Tao. - 老子 道德經
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Malachon Draco
eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.09.29 15:32:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Two Beans I happen to like the metagaming and political aspects of this game. It sets Eve apart from the rest. If you can't handle the intrigue and drama, perhaps you should take heed to the words of the BoB motivational speaker and consider that maybe, just maybe, 0.0 just isn't for you. If all you guys wanna do is just rat and mine, there's plenty of space in Empire for that sorta thing where you won't be victimized by the actions you fervently complain about.
Yes and no. The metagaming certainly is unique. But even without it Eve would be unique in its scope for player interaction, its harshness, the endless ability for people to shape the world. It doesn't need teamspeak spies, corp spies that offline towers, give out POS passwords or spy on fleet movements to make it a fun, challenging game. ------------------------------------------------
New idea for sovereignty: Sovereignty revisited |

Grimpak
Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.29 15:41:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Malachon Draco
Originally by: Two Beans I happen to like the metagaming and political aspects of this game. It sets Eve apart from the rest. If you can't handle the intrigue and drama, perhaps you should take heed to the words of the BoB motivational speaker and consider that maybe, just maybe, 0.0 just isn't for you. If all you guys wanna do is just rat and mine, there's plenty of space in Empire for that sorta thing where you won't be victimized by the actions you fervently complain about.
Yes and no. The metagaming certainly is unique. But even without it Eve would be unique in its scope for player interaction, its harshness, the endless ability for people to shape the world. It doesn't need teamspeak spies, corp spies that offline towers, give out POS passwords or spy on fleet movements to make it a fun, challenging game.
but, like it or not, the meta-gaming aspects do give nice drama shrapnel that I enjoy to read.
and tbh, that's the only thing I like about meta-gaming.
if not, the CAOD forums would be something like:
"'bout that time, eh chaps?"
"right-o." ---
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Curzon Dax
Black Scorpions
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:27:00 -
[83]
I didn't really read all this, but if the gist was that the BoB community is peeved at a Goon spy, I have to rewind back to the days of ASCN and D2 and um...well, laugh.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:30:00 -
[84]
Originally by: The Hooch you have stolen 2 minutes of my life, give it back please
why don't you wardec an alliance about it
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Orebuster
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:58:00 -
[85]
Edited by: Orebuster on 29/09/2007 18:02:13
Originally by: Alice Cholmondeley Imagine what happens when you affiliate with the Goons [:lol:
You win? You live in space you own? You can trust the directors? Fun? Lots of pubbie tears to wash in? Buttes?
edited to add: You have the balls to post with your main?
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Tevlent
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:44:00 -
[86]
welp
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.01 20:42:00 -
[87]
about the post in the op... i guess i misunderstand -- what exactly is the point of a spy?
do you send a spy into another corp in order to make that corp lots of kills and isk? i mean, the spy is supposed to help your enemy corp to do better and improve itself?
help me out here...
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.01 20:46:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Coup DeGrace Well that explains the conversation I received out of nowhere. Really I do wish I hadn't found this forum, it's pretty ****ty.
um....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Drahc View Post Was that ALL in game posts or was any from our forum?
It was from in-game alliance mail. Just remember that there's some teenage furry, living in his parent's basement, who spending his allowance money on CCP fees and SA fees just to spy on us. We must be quite important.
goons have furries?
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xBlood
Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:03:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Isabel Sweet Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:08:21 Edited by: Isabel Sweet on 29/09/2007 11:07:19 Alice, if i ever find out u are a BoB member alt i will make my personal goal to make the ships of your main explode in various and painful ways. And this is a Ingame Roleplay character threat. U make the ****** alt posts to a whole new level and i feel personal offended.
Goons at least have the balls to post with their mains, coward!
PS: btw hy grimpak..how are your voices?
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FireAnt
Caldari Wings of the Storm
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:36:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Kozak Edited by: Kozak on 29/09/2007 01:28:40 BoB went public and threatend everyone living in 0.0 and not paying them. They want to take every region and make everyone pay them rent. Goons have many allies and don't require payment.
I'd rather ally myself with the goons than pay someone to live in 0.0. After our enemies are dispersed, standings will probably get reset and we'll find new targets, but currently there is only one outspoken threat to everyone in living in 0.0 space. If you are a pet, you don't understand this.
so you would rather align yourself with an alliance that wanted to really destroy the game but coming up with BullShi_ stuff about ccp and cheating? Hmmm a alliance that wants to take over eve on one side VS a alliance that has a history of destroying games and has stated they want or atleast wanted to destroy the game totally.
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