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papamikeforthewin
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:34:00 -
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Anyone ever got stuck remembering a word to the point it has driven them mad? Well thats happened to me recently and despite trying to maybe skim across a dictionary or guess with online searching I cant find the damn word!
10mil to the first person who can figure it out for meh. I know it sounds lame but ffs- I need to figure out this word its doing my head in.
The definition would go something like this- A term used to describe a prepared killing zone- particularly in castle terminology. Its the area between two defensive walls for the specific purpose of a "killing zone"
I used to know the word but for the life of me I cant remember it. Anyhoo it might give you all something constructive to do over d/t.
gl
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:45:00 -
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sorry guys none of these, but enfilade was probably the closest so far. Its one word definately and I cant remember if it started with a b, p, or r?
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 10:55:00 -
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Originally by: ****uka Muto Edited by: ****uka Muto on 29/09/2007 10:46:45 maybe it's a bastion?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bastion
it is generally used to describe the prepared area in front of the bastion, while the bastion itself is the fortification.
From what I remember its actual specific noun was used to describe the area between an outer wall and an inner one.
I realise this is vague but if I could remember more I wouldnt have needed this post. Seriously its killing me.
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:11:00 -
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Originally by: Adaris
Originally by: Elias Modron Edited by: Elias Modron on 29/09/2007 10:39:28 Killing field? Enfilade? Enfilade is a position where an enemy unit is fully exposed to fire.
Give this man his money. He is right. killing field.
Killing fields A Killing field was an area between the main wall and a secondary wall, so when the first wall was breached the attackers would run into the killing field to be confronted by another wall from which soldiers bombarded them. Soldiers would be positioned atop the second wall and armed with any variety of weapons, ranging from bows to crossbows to simple rocks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_fortification#Killing_fields
mate, while I appreciate the attempt and yes enfilade is one name for it, this was not the term I was looking for.
If it had simply been a matter of looking at wikipedia do you really think I would have bothered with the post in the first place? Ive been searching for about 3hrs now in every book of military significance I can find in the house as well as skim reading a dictionary and the net.
BTW I have OCD so before anyone starts flaming dont bother wasting your time.
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Splagada NOL?
Lol- that deserves honorable mention
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Hagen Stein Edited by: Hagen Stein on 29/09/2007 11:47:42
Originally by: Reash Bailey would be the area on a castle i think...not exactly my subject and i dont think thats specifically for killing, just an area,
Reash is right, I think. The german term is "Zwinger" (or "Vorzwinger"), which translates to "Bailey", according to LEO. See also http://www.castles-of-britain.com/castle38.htm#B
[Added] Wiktionary seems to agree as well: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bailey
groin vault???
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: SirMoric Is it a latin, french, spanish or english word we're looking for? Or is it derived from one of those languages?
You must tell us more.
rgds
I know I know...
Afaik its an english word but tbh Im only saying that because my native tounge is english. It may just as well be derived from a french or latin word. Its definately doesnt sound germanic nor strickly latin.
I really dont know why I cant think of it. All I can think of is its definition as "field of death" or prepared field of death or something like that. Some of the answers given are incrediable but they arent the one I was thinking of. Im trying to let it go- I think we may have exhausted all possibilities
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Mark Lucius Pomoerium? I am not sure if this is what you mean, but the description kinda fits with yours and the other answers given:
This was a strip of clear ground immediately inside or outside the wall. The word is a medieval and later one, derived from the classical Latin post murum, behind the wall.
An external pomoerium, stripped of bushes and building, gave defenders a clear view of what was happening outside and an unobstructed field of shot. An internal pomoeriun gave ready access to the rear of the curtain wall to facilitate movement of the garrison to a point of need. By the end of the sixteenth century, the word had developed further in common use, into pomery.
from: wikipedia
no but excellent attempt.
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papamikeforthewin
Amarr
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Posted - 2007.09.30 06:50:00 -
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I really didnt expect this thread to blow out the way it did tbh :)
Ah no, unfortunatly no one has hit it yet. But by god, I really am not stuck for alturnatives I suppose
I dont know, im sure its not a figment of my imagination. What I have found surprising is the amount of websites that simply call it "killing ground". AFAIK thats just lazy scholarship and it would have been called one of the other alturnatives mentioned in the post.
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