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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:06:00 -
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Just like to say "thanks" to whoever it was from mOo who podkilled me whilst I was on a long trip home in a shuttle.
I thought mOo actually had a shred of morals - after all, there's no profit in killing and podding a shuttle driver, all it does is:
a) I get home quicker b) I have to fork out for a new clone c) I have to retrain for 10 hours (ie overnight).
What is mOo's official stance on this? Do they think it's acceptable to destroy shuttles, then pod their owners? If so then they have gone down considerably in my estimation, as that is NOT piracy - in any sense of the word.
:)
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Nicholas Marshal
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:10:00 -
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You are mistaken. They are not pirates.
m0o corp are actually a congregation of mass murderers.
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:11:00 -
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were you in m0o's area of space? and or was it in a low sec area? People have to realize that there is nothing written in stone when it comes to piracy. A kill is a kill. When you travel in a low sec area, what did you expect to happen?
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Junko Willsso
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:22:00 -
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There is profit in killing shuttles if that shuttle is carrying a blueprint or skill book :)
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Jazz Bo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:25:00 -
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The problem with shuttles is that they have a cargo hold just like any other ship, and that small cargo hold can have some very valuable items in it... like Blueprints, or a Local Hull Cargo Expander. So good profits, potentially.
If shuttles didn't have a cargo space, then there'd be no real point in blowing them up.
Originally by: DB Preacher
Celestial Apocalypse - Brave souls fighting the endless smak.
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BobGhengisKhan
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:30:00 -
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Wasting 10 hrs of her training time is reason enough
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Carpo Roolie
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:35:00 -
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ANyone who travels afk in 0.4 an dunder without an uptodate clone gets what the deserve....
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Brite
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Posted - 2004.02.18 09:46:00 -
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Quote:
a) I get home quicker b) I have to fork out for a new clone c) I have to retrain for 10 hours (ie overnight).
Although I would never condone this in anyway, I guess 1 out of 3 shows mOo isnt all bad 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:13:00 -
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Vinky,
You could've been carrying a billion isks worth of bp's in your shuttle.
I mean, the brutal truth is, they probably killed you just for the sheer ******* fun of it, but you might've been carrying bp's too 
Plus, it's fun trying to one-shot shuttles/frigates.
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:18:00 -
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amen
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:27:00 -
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Holy cow, killswitch, when did you join SPVD?
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:34:00 -
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this week, do you ever sleep???
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:35:00 -
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I do but I've invented an advanced AI robot which posts on my behalf in case anyone misses my insightful comments and flames 
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killswitch
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:37:00 -
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OMG get some sleep lol, that was an instant post, I gotta go to bed lol
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:38:00 -
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It's agent missions, man, they're boring so I spam the boards to pass the time while trying to find a corp. stupid enough to take me 
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qrac
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:38:00 -
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Edited by: qrac on 18/02/2004 10:49:23
Quote: c) I have to retrain for 10 hours (ie overnight).
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Sahshioh
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Posted - 2004.02.18 10:46:00 -
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yeah i read the post and got realy upset cuz im like not a meanie or anything. but then i got onto Negotiator Navy and brought a willpower +4 implants from empire in a shuttle.
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Reddari
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:02:00 -
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Quote: Wasting 10 hrs of her training time is reason enough
You know that there is a fee involved in you using my sig as your sig 
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:05:00 -
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Quote:
What is mOo's official stance on this?
... as that is NOT piracy - in any sense of the word.
i can t give mOo s official stance, but you can have mine: kill is a kill. period.
and hereby i officially take from you the right to define what is piracy and what is not.
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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:07:00 -
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"Wasting 10 hrs of her training time is reason enough"
At least I now know that they are just griefers with no agenda.
:)
Training doesn't bother me, I often forget to set training off or don't bother checking my account for weeks on end sometimes (the disadvantage of having a life outside of Eve I guess).
Pity whoever it was didn't kill me on the way out (yes I did see you, Mr mOo, on the way out - guess you were afk or something). They might have actually got what I was carrying.
Knowing that I made more money on that trip and also massaged a fragile mOo members ego/member is reward enough (on top of the 5 million I made).
:)
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:09:00 -
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shuttles are used to carry small, expensive items more often than you'd believe.
They are also very, very hard to kill, as, by the time you see them uncloak, they are almost in warp already.
To catch a shuttle out of cloak, you need sub-0.5 second lock time, and some luck.
personally, I wouldn't take very expensive goods in anything less than a tanked BS. Anyone who does, is either crazy, or a risk junkie. .
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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:27:00 -
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heh, perhaps I was just being used for target practice.
Regardless, I have the answer to my original question.
Thanks
:)
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:41:00 -
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Quote:
At least I now know that they are just griefers with no agenda.
hahah
Welcome to EVE.
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Carfax
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:23:00 -
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Hm a kill is a kill? Funny I thought Piracy was generally about spotting a prize, taking it and making off with the plunder and keeping out of the clutches of the authorities as a way of living. A kill is a kill smacks rather of Biggles in his Sopwith Camel claiming that a kill is a kill, a jerry is a jerry, even if he's in an observation balloon or digging his back garden. One shot killing shuttles is shooting for sport. Though the argument about people carrying BPs in shuttles has some merit it does tend towards an attitude created by having no real value on ammo or your characters life expectancy but thats what having clones does I guess
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AwiL
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:40:00 -
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to sum it up, moo owns u bottom line. stay out of their systems (and mine) because most likely if ur not a friend ur an enemy not matter what ur flying. from my personal experience library, while camping with c0w a shuttle was shot down that was carrying 9 dominix bpc's so guess what? anything and everything that's not their friend is getting shot down whether it be for profit or just the simple pleasure of seeing a ship explode
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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.18 17:45:00 -
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You could have been warp jammed and webified and asked for ransom, but you like 95% of the other stubborn peaple in EVE we engage would probably never have paid so you were killed without hesitation.
Bottom line is that if peaple dont like what we do they should try to stop us in the game. Spawn of the Devil
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Gats
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:26:00 -
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Quote: There is profit in killing shuttles if that shuttle is carrying a blueprint or skill book :)
You gotta be pretty stupid to transport important bp s or skillz with a shuttle Cuz if ya got some decent skillz then your frigate is 6x faster
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Sassinak
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:21:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: There is profit in killing shuttles if that shuttle is carrying a blueprint or skill book :)
You gotta be pretty stupid to transport important bp s or skillz with a shuttle Cuz if ya got some decent skillz then your frigate is 6x faster
Never the less, its what people do, no matter how stupid it seems. Sass Arcane Technologies |

Lord Zap
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Posted - 2004.02.18 21:00:00 -
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Quote: Just like to say "thanks" to whoever it was from mOo who podkilled me whilst I was on a long trip home in a shuttle.
I thought mOo actually had a shred of morals - after all, there's no profit in killing and podding a shuttle driver, all it does is:
a) I get home quicker b) I have to fork out for a new clone c) I have to retrain for 10 hours (ie overnight).
What is mOo's official stance on this? Do they think it's acceptable to destroy shuttles, then pod their owners? If so then they have gone down considerably in my estimation, as that is NOT piracy - in any sense of the word.
:)
Yes, its perfectly acceptable for us to destroy shuttles and pod the owner. And your post makes me glad we did pod you. Check your eve-mail, it will tell you who was responsible. I have the feeling it was me eho podded you...
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Damajink
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:02:00 -
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Quote:
A kill is a kill smacks rather of Biggles in his Sopwith Camel claiming that a kill is a kill, a jerry is a jerry, even if he's in an observation balloon or digging his back garden.
lol!
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:22:00 -
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Quote: You could have been warp jammed and webified and asked for ransom, but you like 95% of the other stubborn peaple in EVE we engage would probably never have paid so you were killed without hesitation.
Bottom line is that if peaple dont like what we do they should try to stop us in the game.
Hey, you don't like people being stubborn? If everyone paid up it wouldn't be fun would it?
I'd rather self destruct as well than you guys getting a single round of ammo from me, I know it wouldn't hurt you one bit but at least I'd feel better knowing I contributed nothing but a big boom and some interesting couple of minutes... should it come to that 
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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:29:00 -
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No it wasn't you who podded me, sorry.
You (nearly) all seem to misunderstand my post, which I thought was reasonably straightfoward. It was not a complaint, as you can clearly see from the first sentance "Just like to say 'thanks'".
I was merely asking for a clarification of mOo's agenda, I now have that.
They have gone down in my estimation, that's all - I have posted elsewhere that I enjoy having mOo about the place, as they make the game more exciting.
I'm sorry that you think that this in any way bothers me - a clarification I asked for, a clarification I received.
:)
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:51:00 -
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VinkNut, PC pirates and Regional Allaince don't need any reason for killing you. They would need reasons for not killing you.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:54:00 -
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Quote: VinkNut, PC pirates and Regional Allaince don't need any reason for killing you. They would need reasons for not killing you.
Bla bla Skillz.
FA gives warning and if you ignore it then you will get shot at.
A bit different from your methods but I don't suppose you can imagine things differently in 0.0 than your tactics.
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Khali Nephtys
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:57:00 -
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Quote: to sum it up, moo owns u bottom line. stay out of their systems *sic*
Umm I had a look on the map, and I couldn't find m0o space anywhere wtf's going on?!?!
( m0o have territory now this is a new development, does this mean we will soon be seeing m0o afk mining too? )
Khabs am pehkt...........seize the stars.
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Skillz
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:00:00 -
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Not at all Riddari, we try to stasis web them and then they have to buy a passport. If they ignore the warning or don't want to pay. We successfully only defend our home.
Keep on flaming, lamers.
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vacuole on 18/02/2004 23:18:45 We picked 2k of zydrine off a Velator (rookie ship), and a gallente shuttle BP off a gallente shuttle, just since last night.
I know that isn't much but just goes to show.. those little ships can have some goodies in em, and they're fun to shoot at, to boot! (as someone already said)
I agree that the delicious 'squish' of the pod is what makes podkilling fun. :)
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Kynoch
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:18:00 -
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I find it amusing how thin-skinned the rats get when you have the gall to be chapped when they screw up your week. They should do the right thing and ignore it. The ones that get mouthy seem to have some insecurities. I know it can feel good when you have the skill, cunning and bravery to blow up an outnumbered cruiser or indy. Of course when I have met some M0o at 0.0 gates in my BS with another corp member they seem to run due to being outnumbered...the correct thing to do.
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SKiNNiEH
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:42:00 -
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Its okay to shoot people, in whatever ship they are. But! It is just bad manners to shoot somebody when they are eating pizza and AFK traveling :P
Foei! -------
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Dirus
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Posted - 2004.02.19 00:08:00 -
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If i dont know you, and i havent been told not to kill you, i will kill you if i can.
Pirates in eve = shoot first, ask for toll later. (usually: destroy ship, ask for toll to let pod leave)  ********** Everyone deserves to die. You go first.
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Hamish
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Posted - 2004.02.19 01:00:00 -
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VinkNut whiner and moron for not having a clone :P
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Alessandra
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Posted - 2004.02.19 04:29:00 -
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Actually, unless I'm mistaken, there seem to be -two- types of pirates -- those who web/scramble/toll and those who destroy everything in their path. ;) Now, pirates historically were about plunder -- which suits the first variety of EVE pirate fairly well. As for the second, well -- perhaps we'd do better to use a different word? Like, say -- thugs? M0o is a band of thugs?
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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.02.19 08:58:00 -
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Hamish you appear to be unable to understand the concept of this thread.
I had a clone. I was carrying nothing.
It was a request for a clarification of mOo's position, not a whinge (I have nothing to whinge about, as my losses were wholly inconsequential).
:)
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OmegaPsycho
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Posted - 2004.02.19 13:30:00 -
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Edited by: OmegaPsycho on 19/02/2004 13:31:57
Quote: Just like to say "thanks" to whoever it was from mOo who podkilled me whilst I was on a long trip home in a shuttle.
I thought mOo actually had a shred of morals - after all, there's no profit in killing and podding a shuttle driver, all it does is:
a) I get home quicker b) I have to fork out for a new clone c) I have to retrain for 10 hours (ie overnight).
What is mOo's official stance on this? Do they think it's acceptable to destroy shuttles, then pod their owners? If so then they have gone down considerably in my estimation, as that is NOT piracy - in any sense of the word.
:)
if i'm not mistakeing just not to long ago a kknown pirate corp shot down a shuttle that contained a Dominix BP original so u never know what could be hiding in your little inocent shuttle
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VinkNut
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Posted - 2004.02.19 14:05:00 -
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I had no idea people were stupid enough to transport highly valuable items in a basically defenceless shuttle.
Fools.
:)
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ERGONOMIC
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Posted - 2004.02.19 14:09:00 -
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maybe it was christmass and a red guy in shuttle come to offer you that... and they pod him !!!
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Blooded Heromy
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Posted - 2004.02.19 15:39:00 -
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You could never belive what to find in friggs and shuttles, i sometimes think ppl are ****** up to carry those things in shuttle so i shot them if its an old char there could have somthing good onboard, if a n00bchar i let them go
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pooti
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Posted - 2004.02.19 17:13:00 -
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Quote: M0o is a band of thugs?
We are many things, but I think you could say band of thugs is one of them.
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OmegaPsycho
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Posted - 2004.02.19 17:18:00 -
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Quote: I had no idea people were stupid enough to transport highly valuable items in a basically defenceless shuttle.
Fools.
:)
basically
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b)If someone has pwned u because u suck at EVE do not come crying to the forums cause NO 1 GIVES A FLYING DUCK!!! k?
c)If someone has "ganked" u "HARD" because of "poor game mechanics" send in a "Petition" don't come crying to forums. k?
d) last but not least, If u do not have something constructive to say on the forums then STFU!! k?
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Keid Blackheart
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Posted - 2004.02.19 19:39:00 -
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Quote: You could have been warp jammed and webified and asked for ransom, but you like 95% of the other stubborn peaple in EVE we engage would probably never have paid so you were killed without hesitation.
why should we pay? its our ISK not yours (well technically its CCP's ISK) but whatever :)
if ur to lazy to make ur own cash thats fine by me, but im not giving u anything by choise no matter how many times u kill me :)
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Drogon
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Posted - 2004.02.19 19:54:00 -
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m0o is like the mafia in old New York City. They provide protection for a cost. scenerio: m0o> give us money and we'll protect you. carebear> who do i need protection from? m0o> from us 
just messin around love you guys 
pooti btw still got that typhoon for sale  Director, Divine Retribution
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Keid Blackheart
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Posted - 2004.02.19 19:58:00 -
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Quote: m0o is like the mafia in old New York City. They provide protection for a cost. scenerio: m0o> give us money and we'll protect you. carebear> who do i need protection from? m0o> from us 
lol funny.. and true
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Dirus
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Posted - 2004.02.19 20:28:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: You could have been warp jammed and webified and asked for ransom, but you like 95% of the other stubborn peaple in EVE we engage would probably never have paid so you were killed without hesitation.
why should we pay? its our ISK not yours (well technically its CCP's ISK) but whatever :)
if ur to lazy to make ur own cash thats fine by me, but im not giving u anything by choise no matter how many times u kill me :)
Taking other people's money is a proper income in Eve... and in real life 
********** Everyone deserves to die. You go first.
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Keid Blackheart
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Posted - 2004.02.19 20:39:00 -
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if u say so, but u still wont get any cash asked from me. :)
i wonder what would happend if the other 5% someone mentioned that was paying u stopped.. wouldent that be annoying? :)
and u still didnt answer WHY i should pay you... :)
gimme something i can use and we can discuss payment 
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Frank Horrigan
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Posted - 2004.02.19 21:08:00 -
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unsecure space = risk = possible pirates = possible death of your ship if afk.
Originally by: Oveur
Originally by: Bhaal What has turned out better than expected?
Everything. Remember, we're from Iceland.
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McWatt
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Posted - 2004.02.19 21:34:00 -
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Quote: Hm a kill is a kill? Funny I thought Piracy was generally about spotting a prize, taking it and making off with the plunder and keeping out of the clutches of the authorities as a way of living.
spreading terror? removing some implants? forcing a visit to the cloning station? or simply, sending the message to come back with a worthy ship?
Quote:
One shot killing shuttles is shooting for sport.
i like sports. (and most ppl here know nothing about the boredom of camping...)
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Keid Blackheart
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Posted - 2004.02.19 21:39:00 -
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Quote:
i like sports. (and most ppl here know nothing about the boredom of camping...)
so why camp? :) dont know how to find other ships if u dont camp? :)
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