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Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2007.10.02 08:36:00 - [61] Originally by: LaVista Vista stuff Post with your main, noob corp alt. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
LaVista Vista Aliastra	Posted - 2007.10.02 08:40:00 - [62] Originally by: Ray McCormack Originally by: LaVista Vista stuff Post with your main, noob corp alt. lulz, arguing on ze interweb is like competing in the special olympics. Even if you win, your still ******** (Blame ricdic btw) Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.02 08:59:00 - [63] lolz Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
LordInvisible Gallente The Phoenix Mercenaries	Posted - 2007.10.02 09:52:00 - [64] Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 09:55:26 Originally by: Ricdic Edited by: Ricdic on 02/10/2007 08:22:13 Originally by: LordInvisible yeah, we've got some good info, which will probably do us good, if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds. One could say the same for yourselves. Declaring war on a peaceful and neutral researching alliance full of alt characters is considered equal ground to you? Quote: And no, our employer is not satisfied with blob that came with your contract. Tell him to grow a pair and come after me himself rather than hiding behind you guys. I feel bad having to use your corp to set an example as I have no beef with you personally. But until you either advise who sent you, pay a ransom fee, or retract the wardec, the war against you will continue. As I advised one of your corpmates, if you want to see who has the deeper wallet I am happy to play that game. Quote: Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer. So is this an admission that your employer is already in the Empire Research industry? I think you just inadvertently told us who hired you. Thanking you kindly. truly said, employer was looking at your member numbers, so he cannot compete against 500 with his corp of 19 members, thats why this happened. and having 500 in alliance and we have like 30 members its not realy equal grounds, for us..and we surely werent looking for how many alts is there among 500 members.. Our employer will remain unknown for now, unless he contacts u, or u find him out.. He is not a fighter, so yes, he doesnt have balls to come to u. He hired somebody to do this job for him. ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;) and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Templer Relleg Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:01:00 - [65] Edited by: Templer Relleg on 02/10/2007 10:00:54 Originally by: LordInvisible truly said, employer was looking at your member numbers, so he cannot compete against 500 with his corp of 19 members, thats why this happened. and having 500 in alliance and we have like 30 members its not realy equal grounds, for us..and we surely werent looking for how many alts is there among 500 members.. What you are saying is that you couldnt figure out that Zzz was a bunch of alts, and that you were afraid that you cant take on alts, who i doubt can even fly cruisers? One should have hired Veto instead.
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:10:00 - [66] This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
LaVista Vista Aliastra	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:16:00 - [67] Originally by: Ray McCormack This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now. If one had just a few more IQ point(1 IQ point extra will be a 100% increase!!) than these "mercs", one could read beween the lines and figure out that he already said what you are fishing for. This is so fun Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
LordInvisible Gallente The Phoenix Mercenaries	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:30:00 - [68] Originally by: Templer Relleg Edited by: Templer Relleg on 02/10/2007 10:00:54 Originally by: LordInvisible truly said, employer was looking at your member numbers, so he cannot compete against 500 with his corp of 19 members, thats why this happened. and having 500 in alliance and we have like 30 members its not realy equal grounds, for us..and we surely werent looking for how many alts is there among 500 members.. What you are saying is that you couldnt figure out that Zzz was a bunch of alts, and that you were afraid that you cant take on alts, who i doubt can even fly cruisers? One should have hired Veto instead. no, u are bending my statement just to troll and make us look stupid, which u failed. We dont ask, we just started to do what we were told to do. And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play.. U should hire somebody to think instead of u, would be more fruitfull then trolling here.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
LaVista Vista Aliastra	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:33:00 - [69] Originally by: LordInvisible And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play.. I would never be afraid to engage a bunch of alts, if i was a merc Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
LordInvisible Gallente The Phoenix Mercenaries	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:34:00 - [70] Originally by: Ray McCormack This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now. what, another troll? thnx god i have some much free time at work :) We dont care if there is only 1 member in corp which we need to wardec. so alts up r down, we dont care. And we did overview alliance, saw quite a few corps with 10 or more members, one even has more then 100members. thats enough for us to know. Never said he has no balls, he probably doesnt have SP to fight. And i am sure, he is not stupid like u guys, and he will try to buy this alliance with his main;) some of us use alts to do dirty jobs.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:34:00 - [71] Originally by: Ray McCormack This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now. The facts that I have procured thus far: 1) Within around 40 mins of the war starting, one of the control towers was under attack 2) The bloke in here has advised his buyer may be considering buying C-R-A. This tells us that the person has a vested interest in either the failure, or the purchase of Zzz. So someone has something to gain in both instances. All I can think it could be would be either an opposing research corp/alliance, or one about to go into business. Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Miss KillSome Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:37:00 - [72] Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: LordInvisible And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play.. I would never be afraid to engage a bunch of alts, if i was a merc good for u..
SentryRaven KIA Corp KIA Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:39:00 - [73] Edited by: SentryRaven on 02/10/2007 10:41:36 Originally by: LordInvisible lol, wanna smackwar? Not sure how old or bright are u, [...] I will now expose my humble and most likely very interesting opinion about your mercenary corporation and this contract. 1) This Contract Is a contract. Enough said. No, wait. Lemme elaborate anyways. We were hired by our contractor to do a certain job and thus accepting this contract all I care about is this objective being met. I have and I now speak for myself, though some of my fellow wingmen will most likely agree with me, no interest in your conflict, in whatever reasons your employer had to hire you or what you even had for breakfast. Yes, I can already hear the horde of moralizers running about and yelling at me that I only care about business and greed and money. Yes, I do. Get over it. So please... stop the smacking and get on with what we are paid to do and what you are paid to do. In the end... to me this is all business. And which brings me to 2)Your mercenary corporation. What do you care about equal grounds? This business was never, is currently not and will most likely never be about equal grounds. You were paid to meet a mission objective I assume (correct me though if I am wrong) and we were paid to meet our mission objective. Someone who is, and I apologize for saying this, "whining" about not being fought on equal grounds, to me really is no mercenary. You should know better that in our business it is to be expected to be met with uncommon conditions and situations. So please, do me a favor, do the mercenary business a favor and most evidently do yourself a favor and accept the given circumstances and do what your contract says. In any other case you'd just be a shame to the mercenary society. If you have any further questions or objections, do not hesitate to contact me. With best regards, SentryRaven KIA Noobship Pilot
Shar Tegral	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:46:00 - [74] Originally by: LordInvisible [Useless posturing and COAD-like bullcrap] From my experience, these guys want to appear to be hired. Most likely you've annoyed someone who mentioned to someone else, "Gee, this Ricdic guy has his fingers in alot of pies. Let's see if we can blackmail him and sound like we get contracts too." Of course maybe it's just the lack of merc professionalism that I'm so used to from the real thing. (Of course having had KIA breathing down my neck in the past has me a bit jaded about newcomers in the merc field too.) Do you sell gtc's? Then perhaps we can do a deal.
LaVista Vista Aliastra	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:47:00 - [75] Originally by: Shar Tegral Originally by: LordInvisible [Useless posturing and COAD-like bullcrap] From my experience, these guys want to appear to be hired. Most likely you've annoyed someone who mentioned to someone else, "Gee, this Ricdic guy has his fingers in alot of pies. Let's see if we can blackmail him and sound like we get contracts too." Of course maybe it's just the lack of merc professionalism that I'm so used to from the real thing. (Of course having had KIA breathing down my neck in the past has me a bit jaded about newcomers in the merc field too.) If this was the case, they wouldnt troll on the forums. Hired mercs dont act like that. They keep quiet and only post when direct flame is pointed towards them. Proud nublet of more public ISK than * CAP4U - The Plan
Ray McCormack hirr	Posted - 2007.10.02 10:56:00 - [76] Originally by: LordInvisible Never said he has no balls Originally by: LordInvisible he doesnt have balls to come to u. Ask me about Secured ISK Loans from the BMBE.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.02 14:14:00 - [77] yeah!! pew pew in the industrial section!! now THAT's what i'm talking about!! sorry, no random quotes.
Hexxx Minmatar	Posted - 2007.10.02 14:44:00 - [78] Looks like someone just built 200 T2 Drama-Bombs. All they need to do now is to load them into a named faction Emo-Ego launcher on their T2 Useless-Posturing Battleship. Fire at will! p.s. zomgz joo nuborz? Consulting, IPO Template, and Stock/Bond definitions.
Sharra Savente Shai'tan's Elite Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.02 14:59:00 - [79] Edited by: Sharra Savente on 02/10/2007 14:59:15 Originally by: SentryRaven Yes, I can already hear the horde of moralizers running about and yelling at me that I only care about business and greed and money. Yes, I do. Get over it. cries You are in it only for the greed, the iskies, the business...... Lol, oh wait, so are we Welcome to Eve.... We ARE playing Eve Online right? English doesn't borrow from other languages; it follows other languages down dark alleys, coshes them, then rummages in their pockets for loose grammar.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.02 15:21:00 - [80] Originally by: Sharra Savente Edited by: Sharra Savente on 02/10/2007 14:59:15 Originally by: SentryRaven Yes, I can already hear the horde of moralizers running about and yelling at me that I only care about business and greed and money. Yes, I do. Get over it. cries You are in it only for the greed, the iskies, the business...... Lol, oh wait, so are we Welcome to Eve.... We ARE playing Eve Online right? not me, i'm playing city of villains.
Ricdic Caldari Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.02 15:28:00 - [81] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd not me, i'm playing city of villains. Give me your stuff and cancel your sub immediately. They need to bring back capital punishment... Need Empire Research Slots. Click here
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.02 15:30:00 - [82] Originally by: Ricdic Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd not me, i'm playing city of villains. Give me your stuff and cancel your sub immediately. They need to bring back capital punishment... wilco!
Shadarle	Posted - 2007.10.02 16:12:00 - [83] For a second I thought I was reading the wrong forum. This is quite an amusing thread. It makes me wonder how much KIA is being payed... and how many mercs and how much damage I could cause with a mere fraction of my wallet being used. Tanking Setups Compared Stacking Penalty / Resists Explained
Juha85 Beasts of Burden YouWhat	Posted - 2007.10.02 16:18:00 - [84] Originally by: FastLearner Originally by: Kitex Quote: Attacking the starbase of a war target in high security space would occasionally result in a global criminal flag. This no longer occurs. Thats from the Rev 2 Patch notes. I can't confirm that it works that way in practice, but I'd assume POS's are now fair game to war targets. Yeah, my experience is that high-sec POSes can now be attacked without concord intervention. Pretty messy business - bs don't stand up real well to being primaried by a bunch of pos guns. I'd suggest you sling up a bunch of hardeners (so they have to be there all day just to reinforce the pos) plus a neut and some medium guns (larges just won't hit if bs have any sort of traversal speed). Shame you can't use POS gunners in high-sec but hard to see how they can achieve much. I';d guess this war-dec is NOT from a competitor - it's just not reasonable from a cost perspective. It's either: 1. A merc-wannabe corp trying to extort some cash, 2/ Someone with a personal grudge who doesn't care about getting value for money. OK I didnt bother reading the whole thread again.. :) However a POS can be easily taken down with a battleship fleet if they take the time. Why? The scan resolution on the scramblers / guns is so horrible that you can warp in, shoot a few vollies, warp out. Rinse and repeat and you have a dead pos ---------------------------------------
Kazuo Ishiguro House of Marbles Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.02 16:22:00 - [85] I would like to draw people's attention to this thread: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=602338 It will be possible, in future, based on that response, for people to use war decs to destroy high-sec towers and steal all structures anchored at them. Looks like operating costs for researchers are set to rise again; we can only hope that alliance copying is fixed to help offset this. My research services Spreadsheets: Top speed calculation - Halo Implant stats
SonOfAGhost Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository Zzz	Posted - 2007.10.02 19:48:00 - [86] Originally by: LordInvisible if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds. Like when your Megathron ran through the gate to escape my Hurricane? Quote: ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;) So you're going to wardec your current employer for how much exactly? Quote: and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT.. A clear demonstration of your lack of understanding and why you should stick to combat, not market PvP. Who needs the Nikkei when there's EBay? Lag? GTFOOJ!
LordInvisible Gallente The Phoenix Mercenaries	Posted - 2007.10.02 20:32:00 - [87] Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 20:33:14 Originally by: SonOfAGhost Originally by: LordInvisible if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds. Like when your Megathron ran through the gate to escape my Hurricane? Quote: ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;) So you're going to wardec your current employer for how much exactly? Quote: and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT.. A clear demonstration of your lack of understanding and why you should stick to combat, not market PvP. tried to stay out of this topic, but as u addressed me in wrong view, i'll try to explain your noobness how stuff work: u ever heard for snipers? Thats ships which achieve long range with their largest weapons for decent dmg. And it happend, that i was in sniper that time u engaged me on that g8s. I was fitted for POS shooting, so i had sentries too. As u noticed, your shield and 1/3 of armor melted while u were approaching me, but once u started to orbit, my 425mm rails couldnt track u anymore. So, maybe u are that stupid to sit there and get pwned, but i am not, so yes, i had to ran away and get other ship, which could track u down on 5km orbit. I did, I pwned u, and all is well.. as for wardec: offers are welcome, but this is not my part anymore. Talk to ceo. trust me, some ppl will consider buying alliance if there is an active war on them. Just beacuse that means more POS management with AMMO and STRONT, hard recruiting and stuff. But what would i know, right? Am probably older in eve then u.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.02 21:15:00 - [88] Originally by: LordInvisible Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 20:33:14 Originally by: SonOfAGhost Originally by: LordInvisible if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds. Like when your Megathron ran through the gate to escape my Hurricane? Quote: ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;) So you're going to wardec your current employer for how much exactly? Quote: and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT.. A clear demonstration of your lack of understanding and why you should stick to combat, not market PvP. tried to stay out of this topic, but as u addressed me in wrong view, i'll try to explain your noobness how stuff work: u ever heard for snipers? Thats ships which achieve long range with their largest weapons for decent dmg. And it happend, that i was in sniper that time u engaged me on that g8s. I was fitted for POS shooting, so i had sentries too. As u noticed, your shield and 1/3 of armor melted while u were approaching me, but once u started to orbit, my 425mm rails couldnt track u anymore. So, maybe u are that stupid to sit there and get pwned, but i am not, so yes, i had to ran away and get other ship, which could track u down on 5km orbit. I did, I pwned u, and all is well.. as for wardec: offers are welcome, but this is not my part anymore. Talk to ceo. trust me, some ppl will consider buying alliance if there is an active war on them. Just beacuse that means more POS management with AMMO and STRONT, hard recruiting and stuff. But what would i know, right? Am probably older in eve then u.. what?
LordInvisible Gallente The Phoenix Mercenaries	Posted - 2007.10.02 22:14:00 - [89] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd what? http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/exercises/main/reading.html www.google.com http://dictionary.reference.com/ www.wikipedia.org www.eve-online.com here, start reading this, come back when u can read and understand things that I wrote.. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.10.02 22:35:00 - [90] Originally by: LordInvisible Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd what? http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/exercises/main/reading.html www.google.com http://dictionary.reference.com/ www.wikipedia.org www.eve-online.com here, start reading this, come back when u can read and understand things that I wrote.. what?

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