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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:27:00 -
[1]
 Quote:
2007.09.29 17:01
The Phoenix Mercenaries has declared war on Zzz.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
The wardec came about within mere minutes of it being spoken about on the EGSEx channel. It is almost certain that it originated from someone there. Having said that, we have gathered intel on the corporation and will not bow down to any of their demands.
The Zzz towers have been reinforced, and the alliance members have been notified. Whilst a good portion of Zzz are alts, there are a large number of mains in there as well.
Any investors in C-R-A in pvp corporations feel free to assist in protecting your investment as we set an example on the perpetrators.
Kind Regards,
Ricdic
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.29 17:35:00 -
[2]
My corp was wardec'd a few times in the past... and I have absolutely no clue why. Every time the people that war dec'd us ran like little babies when a few of us showed up in the system they were in ready for war. I guess some people actually get scared of a war dec and pay to get it removed? If so it's rather pathetic.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.09.29 19:11:00 -
[3]
I was really wondering how long it would be before you were Wardec'ed.
When I was renting a research lab from R0me0 (before he turned to the dark side) he was wardec'ed by a competitor to ruin his business. Have you found out who is paying for this?
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Dark Shikari
Caldari
Imperium Technologies
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.09.29 19:12:00 -
[4]
If I remember correctly these guys wardecced STUFF after it had already closed, nevermind that it was never more than an alt corporation that never undocked. 
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 19:50:00 -
[5]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Have you found out who is paying for this?
He thinks it's me.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:06:00 -
[6]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Have you found out who is paying for this?
He thinks it's me.
Nah, you said it was you in the channel and I went along with it
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Jon Asus
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Posted - 2007.09.29 20:28:00 -
[7]
Edited by: Jon Asus on 29/09/2007 20:28:21
How much does an alliance dec cost these days?
Also, does CONCORD still defend high sec POS?
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:02:00 -
[8]
Originally by: Jon Asus
Also, does CONCORD still defend high sec POS?
As far as I know, yes. So I don't understand the point in this at all. Quite costly for no purpose.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:07:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Ricdic
Nah, you said it was you in the channel and I went along with it
Nah, I said it might be me (I think). It's not, anyway. As I said, sarcastically, I don't waste ISK.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:10:00 -
[10]
Originally by: Dark Shikari
If I remember correctly these guys wardecced STUFF after it had already closed, nevermind that it was never more than an alt corporation that never undocked.
I'll leave it up to DS to confirm, but I was indeed one of the last members of STUFF when this wardec hit. Through an alt, ofc. But they're always humorous, even if they fail miserably.
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Kitex
Blacktag Test Labs
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:17:00 -
[11]
Quote:
Attacking the starbase of a war target in high security space would occasionally result in a global criminal flag. This no longer occurs.
Thats from the Rev 2 Patch notes. I can't confirm that it works that way in practice, but I'd assume POS's are now fair game to war targets.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:18:00 -
[12]
Originally by: Kitex
Quote:
Attacking the starbase of a war target in high security space would occasionally result in a global criminal flag. This no longer occurs.
Thats from the Rev 2 Patch notes. I can't confirm that it works that way in practice, but I'd assume POS's are now fair game to war targets.
Interesting. It looks like Ricdic may have to throw up some defenses around the starbases then. On the off chance that the wardec is serious and not someone trying to extort money.
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Robacz
Essence Trade
Essence Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:21:00 -
[13]
Edited by: Robacz on 29/09/2007 21:23:23
High sec POS are no longer protected if there is a war. So you can grab X battleships and do some highly exciting pew-pew.... for like a half day. 
edit: btw Ridic, you should check your POS shields after DT, there is still that annoying bug which weakens your shields during DT. GMs can fix it.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 21:25:00 -
[14]
Originally by: Jon Asus
How much does an alliance dec cost these days?
Also, does CONCORD still defend high sec POS?
This is the person you want to post with their main. (Their main to this forum, at least)
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Jon Asus
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:34:00 -
[15]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: Jon Asus
How much does an alliance dec cost these days?
Also, does CONCORD still defend high sec POS?
This is the person you want to post with their main. (Their main to this forum, at least)
I am a main...
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.09.29 22:44:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Jon Asus
I am a main...
Of course you are. And I for one welcome your mainness to these forums.
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:27:00 -
[17]
Originally by: Ricdic
Quote:
2007.09.29 17:01
The Phoenix Mercenaries has declared war on Zzz.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
we have gathered intel on the corporation and will not bow down to any of their demands.
I see their manouver as purely an economic decision. Did they try to 'shake you down' first?
Phoenix Mercenary> Heeeeyyyyy... noice business you gots here.
Ricdic> Umm thanks.
Phoenix Mercenary> So, you know you put your towers up in a bad neighbourhood huh?
Ricdic> Eh? Business is good I guess.
Phoenix Mercenary> It could get a lot worse. yaknow.
Ricdic> How so?
Phoenix Mercenary> Oh lots a young punks in the neighbourhood looking for a fast buck. We could offer protection... ya'knows so you don't find your POS's catching fire late at night.
Ricdic> I see...
Taikun
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FastLearner
Fury Holdings
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:37:00 -
[18]
Originally by: Kitex
Quote:
Attacking the starbase of a war target in high security space would occasionally result in a global criminal flag. This no longer occurs.
Thats from the Rev 2 Patch notes. I can't confirm that it works that way in practice, but I'd assume POS's are now fair game to war targets.
Yeah, my experience is that high-sec POSes can now be attacked without concord intervention. Pretty messy business - bs don't stand up real well to being primaried by a bunch of pos guns. I'd suggest you sling up a bunch of hardeners (so they have to be there all day just to reinforce the pos) plus a neut and some medium guns (larges just won't hit if bs have any sort of traversal speed). Shame you can't use POS gunners in high-sec but hard to see how they can achieve much.
I';d guess this war-dec is NOT from a competitor - it's just not reasonable from a cost perspective. It's either:
1. A merc-wannabe corp trying to extort some cash,
2/ Someone with a personal grudge who doesn't care about getting value for money.
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:42:00 -
[19]
There is no need for large guns in high sec really. Just use some small/medium guns and I doubt you'll see a large enough fleet to bother you much. Though it may be hard to find much free cpu/power if the stations were maxed out on research facilities, which is likely.
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Meleil
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:50:00 -
[20]
Keep the pos's loaded with stront. Make the ******* wait forever just to take down the pos's if that's what they're there for.
~Mel
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.30 01:54:00 -
[21]
I won't post the tower setups here, but mobile labs barely touch any powergrid, so you can fill up the PG with a lot of offensive modules. One lab does need offlining on each tower to allow for the scramblers, webs etc 
We have recieved the free support of a pirate corporation who have offered to assist in this endeavour, and a lot of the alliance are rearing to go. It is unlikely they will attempt to attack the C-R-A towers, as doing so would group them together and allow us to strike far easier. I expect the corporation believes they are declaring on us for nothing more than what they think will be free kills.
They cannot profit from the Zzz war declaration, so it is believed that their intent is simply the attack of some 'weak' targets. We look forward to setting them straight in this belief
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:02:00 -
[22]
Maybe you need some help 
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Chebri
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Posted - 2007.09.30 02:42:00 -
[23]
Originally by: Jon Asus
Edited by: Jon Asus on 29/09/2007 20:28:21
How much does an alliance dec cost these days?
Also, does CONCORD still defend high sec POS?
50 Million for the first alliance war (per week)
100 Million for the second war (per week)
Read the patch notes for complete details.
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Sharra Savente
Shai'tan's Elite
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.30 03:47:00 -
[24]
These guys just got done with a wardec on Eve Uni. They just don't have the numbers to take out high sec POSes. If you want the majority of their names, just check the Eve Uni killboard. Most weren't flying Bses.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.09.30 16:51:00 -
[25]
Fighting them keeps them interested.
Make them pay 50-100m per week to stare at the stations from which you never undock. They'll tire of it quickly. They won't tire nearly so quickly of going up against insurmountable odds; that's a challenge!
MP
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:17:00 -
[26]
/me giggles.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:31:00 -
[27]
oh hai.
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Gryffindor
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:43:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Imperius Blackheart
/me giggles.
U and Grimp are a couple of children, leathal killing machine children but children never the less 
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:47:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Gryffindor
Originally by: Imperius Blackheart
/me giggles.
U and Grimp are a couple of children, leathal killing machine children but children never the less
dude, it's like this: we're like thos guys that grab a magnifying glass and aim it to an ant.
and we're paid for it, nevertheless.
oh life's sweet
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Gryffindor
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.30 18:49:00 -
[30]
ROFL, in that case Burn baby burn, let the fun commence
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.09.30 20:09:00 -
[31]
Long story short
1) Attempted to fight
2) Got asses handed to us
3) They started focused fire on the POS's
4) Offered peaceful treaty
5) Declined
6) Hired KIA to clear them out and set an example.
Now, this wouldn't have been a major issue if the towers were defended properly. Over the last year I have been lazy, not bothering to put up anywhere near sufficient defences due to things like the lack of ability to declare war in the past etc.
As a result of this, I will wear the KIA costs myself and during the next week of the contract I will focus on getting some hardcore defences put up on those towers as should have been done in the first place.
Whilst KIA aren't able to begin attacking yet, their arrival in force in Zzz and surrounding POS occupied systems has (it seems) caused the enemy to retreat. More updates as the drama unfolds!
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Taikun
Gallente
Serenity Prime
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.01 01:21:00 -
[32]
Edited by: Taikun on 01/10/2007 01:23:58
Originally by: Shadarle
My corp was wardec'd a few times in the past... and I have absolutely no clue why.
Allow me to speculate that it was your mouth that makes others want to slap it.
Taikun
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Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:46:00 -
[33]
Out of curiousity, could they simply mass-join an existing Zzz corp and shoot at your POS without retaliation? Or is it set to fire on all aggression?
I have an alt in your alliance and briefly considered just doing a mass corp invite to anyone wanting in for the wardec, then wondered about my above question.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.01 04:52:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Vrizuh
Out of curiousity, could they simply mass-join an existing Zzz corp and shoot at your POS without retaliation? Or is it set to fire on all aggression?
I have an alt in your alliance and briefly considered just doing a mass corp invite to anyone wanting in for the wardec, then wondered about my above question.
I think it is 'only' war targets that can shoot at the POS without attack from concord. Possibly corp members of the owning corp can shoot it as well. I am quite certain alliance members cannot, but feel free to test that theory if you have a noob ship lying around. Hell I will test it.
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Zolcan
Amarr
Praetoria Shipyards
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Posted - 2007.10.01 05:19:00 -
[35]
While you are not an Amarrian Ricdic I will say a prayer for you tonight that God watches over your corporation. Good luck to you Caldari friend.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:01:00 -
[36]
Originally by: Ricdic
Long story short
1) Attempted to fight
2) Got asses handed to us
Would be interesting to know how many of them there were... and how many you had.
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Hawks Eye
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Posted - 2007.10.01 17:09:00 -
[37]
Good luck Zzz!
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:09:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Ricdic
Long story short
1) Attempted to fight
2) Got asses handed to us
Would be interesting to know how many of them there were... and how many you had.
first engagement:
raven, dominix, celestis against our hyp, rokh, mega, thorax. kudoz for hoping, that our rokh will engage u in raven, with 3 more WTs in system, alone..nice baiting though..
second engagement:
hurricane, caracal, harbinger, noobie ship against my hyp. My m8s BS was shot down by faction police coz he forgot about his sec status and entered 0.7.
All fights were with zero losses on our side and full losses on their. We did manage to loot first engagement leftovers, in second engagement, KIA stole all the loot.
this is it..
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.01 18:25:00 -
[39]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Ricdic
Long story short
1) Attempted to fight
2) Got asses handed to us
Would be interesting to know how many of them there were... and how many you had.
first engagement:
raven, dominix, celestis against our hyp, rokh, mega, thorax. kudoz for hoping, that our rokh will engage u in raven, with 3 more WTs in system, alone..nice baiting though..
second engagement:
hurricane, caracal, harbinger, noobie ship against my hyp. My m8s BS was shot down by faction police coz he forgot about his sec status and entered 0.7.
All fights were with zero losses on our side and full losses on their. We did manage to loot first engagement leftovers, in second engagement, KIA stole all the loot.
this is it..
I think I spent more isk on stront than was lost in this entire battlereport the last time I shot a tower in my dreadnought. Oh, the mini-drama that is an Empire war!
If you need some good POS setup tips, find me on MSN. A properly-fitted high-sec POS is literally impossible to kill with anything short of 50+ heavily-tanked BS and some damn good logistics coordination.
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 20:33:00 -
[40]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Originally by: Ricdic
Long story short
1) Attempted to fight
2) Got asses handed to us
KIA stole all the loot.
this is it..
KIA returned the loot to its owners, stopping you from profiting and pre our wardec kicking in.
That is it...
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:02:00 -
[41]
Quick update on the war.
4 members of The Phoenix Mercenaries have left the corporation since the start of the war.
Since KIA war went active, our mercenary friends haven't been undocking. I can't understand why the won't come out and fight. For like 1 hour one of them sat in the station refusing to undock when I was only in a shuttle.
So that's your latest daily war update. Stay tuned for our next installment.
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Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:18:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ricdic
Quick update on the war.
4 members of The Phoenix Mercenaries have left the corporation since the start of the war.
Since KIA war went active, our mercenary friends haven't been undocking. I can't understand why the won't come out and fight. For like 1 hour one of them sat in the station refusing to undock when I was only in a shuttle.
So that's your latest daily war update. Stay tuned for our next installment.
I peed myself a little laughing at that screenshot. Seriously.
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:31:00 -
[43]
Our special secret formation for the next Alliance Synchro Tournament has been spoiled... Damn it!
With best regards,
SentryRaven
KIA Noobship Pilot
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Gryffindor
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 21:46:00 -
[44]
what can we say, there was a war target in station so we decided to camp for a little while :)
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.01 22:13:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Ricdic
Quick update on the war.
4 members of The Phoenix Mercenaries have left the corporation since the start of the war.
Since KIA war went active, our mercenary friends haven't been undocking. I can't understand why the won't come out and fight. For like 1 hour one of them sat in the station refusing to undock when I was only in a shuttle.
So that's your latest daily war update. Stay tuned for our next installment.
Holy hell. 
Here's hoping that KIA gets that entire Corp to disband. Honestly....whatever you're paying them Ricdic, that picture was worth an entire week's pay.
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Kylar Renpurs
Dusk Blade
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Posted - 2007.10.01 22:30:00 -
[46]
Mental note to self, don't mess with Ricdic :) That's just hilarious, I thought I got tired of 6 or 7 people camping a station. If that's what I would be greedted with I'd *want* to be stationcamped just for the experience!
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Devoras2
Amarr
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 23:27:00 -
[47]
Actual story.
We arrived in full force down to the theather of war only to find a single war target docked. Guess he was ****ing his pants when he complained about the 32:1 odds.
But we got bored, and some individual (guess who )decided that lets undock BS`s and do something funny. BS conga on a line! Guess most of us were listening to this song while making those BS`s move .
Heck, we even frapsed and recorded it on TS
KIA- BS Conga coming a system near you!
Dev
It's great being Amarr, aint it?
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Viqer Fell
Minmatar
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.01 23:41:00 -
[48]
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 00:02:00 -
[49]
we are doin' conga \o\
we are doin' conga /o/
we are doin' conga \o\
we are doin' conga /o/
we are doin' conga \o\
we are doin' conga /o/
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 02:39:00 -
[50]
Did you guys fraps the Hokey Pokey as well?
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.02 03:57:00 -
[51]
I understand the pos mechanic will allow a corp member or war target to shoot the pos. An alliance member would be Concorded.
The settings for the pos depend on what tick boxes are checked but I usually recommend all of them be checked. So the pos will fire on aggro or wt being present.
I still don't understand why people dock during a war it just means that it's too easy to be camped with no intel on what is outside. Whether a conga line or shuttle
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star.
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Posted - 2007.10.02 04:03:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Devian 666
I still don't understand why people dock during a war it just means that it's too easy to be camped with no intel on what is outside.
Because no self respecting empire war declarer would be without an alt scout sitting around scanning camped ships for their setups. Correction: an alt npc corp scout.
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Devian 666
Sectoid Technologies
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Posted - 2007.10.02 04:39:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: Devian 666
I still don't understand why people dock during a war it just means that it's too easy to be camped with no intel on what is outside.
Because no self respecting empire war declarer would be without an alt scout sitting around scanning camped ships for their setups. Correction: an alt npc corp scout.
Even so it's better off being logged out in the safe spot than having people know where you are when you next log in.
I agree I don't have the features to be a holoreel star.
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 06:53:00 -
[54]
Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 06:53:27
hehe, yeah, they brought the calvary just for two players, i felt honoured:D
anyway, it was slightly against my odds to engage them
M8 who was at that station "camped" was really there on purpouse, to hold them there. I was meanwhile scanning their setups, getting their ship names and stuff.
They did almost uncloak me one or two times, damn lucky guys..
Anyway. They should be payed good for their effort and determination.
@excuses about looting: in wars, the loot is the award for surviving. U behaved like those vultures who warped behind privateers and looting. Dont crap me about returning stuff to the owners, war loot is war loot, they engaged me, i didnt engage them..
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Imperius Blackheart
Caldari
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 07:40:00 -
[55]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 06:53:27
hehe, yeah, they brought the calvary just for two players, i felt honoured:D
anyway, it was slightly against my odds to engage them
M8 who was at that station "camped" was really there on purpouse, to hold them there. I was meanwhile scanning their setups, getting their ship names and stuff.
They did almost uncloak me one or two times, damn lucky guys..
Anyway. They should be payed good for their effort and determination.
@excuses about looting: in wars, the loot is the award for surviving. U behaved like those vultures who warped behind privateers and looting. Dont crap me about returning stuff to the owners, war loot is war loot, they engaged me, i didnt engage them..
Haha you have Viqer Fells battle mammoth on scan, useful intel I tell thee
As for the loot, it was more an act of kindness to our employeer who had lost some ships and to stop you profiting, we couldn't fire on you yet, so we gave you the chance to shoot our looters and returned the goods to their previous owners stopping you from profiting.
I hope our shipnames and setups do you some good :) and I hope your employeer is pleased.
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:02:00 -
[56]
lol, wanna smackwar?
Not sure how old or bright are u, but looting someone elses wreck, which is not in my corp, doesnt aggro my side of client..so with looting MY war targets wrecks, u only stole from me, didnt gave me chance to aggro u back..
U did manage to steal something from my m8s wreck, but that hauler was ninja looting. In the second he started to blink red, he warped, so again: u didnt want to fight against me in that time coz u knew that i would pwn u to high heaven, because your buddies couldnt blob me..
yeah, we've got some good info, which will probably do us good, if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds. And no, our employer is not satisfied with blob that came with your contract. But like mentioned, we will just sink low for now, no reason to engage 32 vs 1. Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer.
So, happy camping these week.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:12:00 -
[57]
Originally by: LordInvisible
yeah, we've got some good info, which will probably do us good, if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds.
One could say the same for yourselves. Declaring war on a peaceful and neutral researching alliance full of alt characters is considered equal ground to you?
Quote:
And no, our employer is not satisfied with blob that came with your contract.
Tell him to grow a pair and come after me himself rather than hiding behind you guys. I feel bad having to use your corp to set an example as I have no beef with you personally. But until you either advise who sent you, pay a ransom fee, or retract the wardec, the war against you will continue. As I advised one of your corpmates, if you want to see who has the deeper wallet I am happy to play that game.
Quote:
Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer.
So is this an admission that your employer is already in the Empire Research industry? I think you just inadvertently told us who hired you. Thanking you kindly.
So, happy camping these week.
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:20:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Ricdic
Quote:
Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer.
So is this an admission that your employer is already in the Empire Research industry? I think you just inadvertently told us who hired you. Thanking you kindly.
So, happy camping these week.
I think i need to rofl.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:31:00 -
[59]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer.
I am not looking to buy Zzz.
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:32:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: LordInvisible
Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer.
I am not looking to buy Zzz.
Damnit. First i was talking to ricdic over messenger, and he broke my conspiracy theory. And now you break the other one i made up. Thats so not cool dude 
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:36:00 -
[61]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
stuff
Post with your main, noob corp alt.
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:40:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
Originally by: LaVista Vista
stuff
Post with your main, noob corp alt.
lulz, arguing on ze interweb is like competing in the special olympics. Even if you win, your still ********
(Blame ricdic btw)
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 08:59:00 -
[63]
lolz
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 09:52:00 -
[64]
Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 09:55:26
Originally by: Ricdic
Edited by: Ricdic on 02/10/2007 08:22:13
Originally by: LordInvisible
yeah, we've got some good info, which will probably do us good, if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds.
One could say the same for yourselves. Declaring war on a peaceful and neutral researching alliance full of alt characters is considered equal ground to you?
Quote:
And no, our employer is not satisfied with blob that came with your contract.
Tell him to grow a pair and come after me himself rather than hiding behind you guys. I feel bad having to use your corp to set an example as I have no beef with you personally. But until you either advise who sent you, pay a ransom fee, or retract the wardec, the war against you will continue. As I advised one of your corpmates, if you want to see who has the deeper wallet I am happy to play that game.
Quote:
Your contract will expire soon without much success and rumours are, that Zzz is selling, which will probably be buyed by our employer.
So is this an admission that your employer is already in the Empire Research industry? I think you just inadvertently told us who hired you. Thanking you kindly.
truly said, employer was looking at your member numbers, so he cannot compete against 500 with his corp of 19 members, thats why this happened. and having 500 in alliance and we have like 30 members its not realy equal grounds, for us..and we surely werent looking for how many alts is there among 500 members..
Our employer will remain unknown for now, unless he contacts u, or u find him out..
He is not a fighter, so yes, he doesnt have balls to come to u. He hired somebody to do this job for him.
ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;) and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT..
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Templer Relleg
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:01:00 -
[65]
Edited by: Templer Relleg on 02/10/2007 10:00:54
Originally by: LordInvisible
truly said, employer was looking at your member numbers, so he cannot compete against 500 with his corp of 19 members, thats why this happened. and having 500 in alliance and we have like 30 members its not realy equal grounds, for us..and we surely werent looking for how many alts is there among 500 members..
What you are saying is that you couldnt figure out that Zzz was a bunch of alts, and that you were afraid that you cant take on alts, who i doubt can even fly cruisers? 
One should have hired Veto instead.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:10:00 -
[66]
This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now.
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:16:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now.
If one had just a few more IQ point(1 IQ point extra will be a 100% increase!!) than these "mercs", one could read beween the lines and figure out that he already said what you are fishing for.
This is so fun
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:30:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Templer Relleg
Edited by: Templer Relleg on 02/10/2007 10:00:54
Originally by: LordInvisible
truly said, employer was looking at your member numbers, so he cannot compete against 500 with his corp of 19 members, thats why this happened. and having 500 in alliance and we have like 30 members its not realy equal grounds, for us..and we surely werent looking for how many alts is there among 500 members..
What you are saying is that you couldnt figure out that Zzz was a bunch of alts, and that you were afraid that you cant take on alts, who i doubt can even fly cruisers?
One should have hired Veto instead.
no, u are bending my statement just to troll and make us look stupid, which u failed.
We dont ask, we just started to do what we were told to do.
And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play..
U should hire somebody to think instead of u, would be more fruitfull then trolling here..
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:33:00 -
[69]
Originally by: LordInvisible
And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play..
I would never be afraid to engage a bunch of alts, if i was a merc
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:34:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now.
what, another troll? thnx god i have some much free time at work :)
We dont care if there is only 1 member in corp which we need to wardec. so alts up r down, we dont care. And we did overview alliance, saw quite a few corps with 10 or more members, one even has more then 100members. thats enough for us to know.
Never said he has no balls, he probably doesnt have SP to fight.
And i am sure, he is not stupid like u guys, and he will try to buy this alliance with his main;) some of us use alts to do dirty jobs..
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:34:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Ray McCormack
This doesn't really say much for The Phoenix Mercenaries. They failed to recognise that an alt alliance is full of alts. The say their employer has no balls. They say he will remain anonymous but is in a 19 member corporation and looking to purchase CRA now.
The facts that I have procured thus far:
1) Within around 40 mins of the war starting, one of the control towers was under attack
2) The bloke in here has advised his buyer may be considering buying C-R-A.
This tells us that the person has a vested interest in either the failure, or the purchase of Zzz. So someone has something to gain in both instances. All I can think it could be would be either an opposing research corp/alliance, or one about to go into business.
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Miss KillSome
Caldari
School of Applied Knowledge
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:37:00 -
[72]
Originally by: LaVista Vista
Originally by: LordInvisible
And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play..
I would never be afraid to engage a bunch of alts, if i was a merc
good for u..
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:39:00 -
[73]
Edited by: SentryRaven on 02/10/2007 10:41:36
Originally by: LordInvisible
lol, wanna smackwar?
Not sure how old or bright are u, [...]
I will now expose my humble and most likely very interesting opinion about your mercenary corporation and this contract.
1) This Contract
Is a contract. Enough said.
No, wait. Lemme elaborate anyways. We were hired by our contractor to do a certain job and thus accepting this contract all I care about is this objective being met. I have and I now speak for myself, though some of my fellow wingmen will most likely agree with me, no interest in your conflict, in whatever reasons your employer had to hire you or what you even had for breakfast.
Yes, I can already hear the horde of moralizers running about and yelling at me that I only care about business and greed and money. Yes, I do. Get over it.
So please... stop the smacking and get on with what we are paid to do and what you are paid to do. In the end... to me this is all business.
And which brings me to
2)Your mercenary corporation.
What do you care about equal grounds? This business was never, is currently not and will most likely never be about equal grounds. You were paid to meet a mission objective I assume (correct me though if I am wrong) and we were paid to meet our mission objective.
Someone who is, and I apologize for saying this, "whining" about not being fought on equal grounds, to me really is no mercenary. You should know better that in our business it is to be expected to be met with uncommon conditions and situations.
So please, do me a favor, do the mercenary business a favor and most evidently do yourself a favor and accept the given circumstances and do what your contract says. In any other case you'd just be a shame to the mercenary society.
If you have any further questions or objections, do not hesitate to contact me.
With best regards,
SentryRaven
KIA Noobship Pilot
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Shar Tegral
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:46:00 -
[74]
Originally by: LordInvisible
[Useless posturing and COAD-like bullcrap]
From my experience, these guys want to appear to be hired. Most likely you've annoyed someone who mentioned to someone else, "Gee, this Ricdic guy has his fingers in alot of pies. Let's see if we can blackmail him and sound like we get contracts too." Of course maybe it's just the lack of merc professionalism that I'm so used to from the real thing. (Of course having had KIA breathing down my neck in the past has me a bit jaded about newcomers in the merc field too.)
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:47:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Shar Tegral
Originally by: LordInvisible
[Useless posturing and COAD-like bullcrap]
From my experience, these guys want to appear to be hired. Most likely you've annoyed someone who mentioned to someone else, "Gee, this Ricdic guy has his fingers in alot of pies. Let's see if we can blackmail him and sound like we get contracts too." Of course maybe it's just the lack of merc professionalism that I'm so used to from the real thing. (Of course having had KIA breathing down my neck in the past has me a bit jaded about newcomers in the merc field too.)
If this was the case, they wouldnt troll on the forums. Hired mercs dont act like that. They keep quiet and only post when direct flame is pointed towards them.
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Ray McCormack
hirr
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Posted - 2007.10.02 10:56:00 -
[76]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Never said he has no balls
Originally by: LordInvisible
he doesnt have balls to come to u.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 14:14:00 -
[77]
yeah!! pew pew in the industrial section!!
now THAT's what i'm talking about!!
sorry, no random quotes.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.02 14:44:00 -
[78]
Looks like someone just built 200 T2 Drama-Bombs.
All they need to do now is to load them into a named faction Emo-Ego launcher on their T2 Useless-Posturing Battleship.
Fire at will!
p.s. zomgz joo nuborz?
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Sharra Savente
Shai'tan's Elite
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 14:59:00 -
[79]
Edited by: Sharra Savente on 02/10/2007 14:59:15
Originally by: SentryRaven
Yes, I can already hear the horde of moralizers running about and yelling at me that I only care about business and greed and money. Yes, I do. Get over it.
*cries* You are in it only for the greed, the iskies, the business......
Lol, oh wait, so are we
Welcome to Eve....
We ARE playing Eve Online right?
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 15:21:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Sharra Savente
Edited by: Sharra Savente on 02/10/2007 14:59:15
Originally by: SentryRaven
Yes, I can already hear the horde of moralizers running about and yelling at me that I only care about business and greed and money. Yes, I do. Get over it.
*cries* You are in it only for the greed, the iskies, the business......
Lol, oh wait, so are we
Welcome to Eve....
We ARE playing Eve Online right?
not me, i'm playing city of villains.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 15:28:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
not me, i'm playing city of villains.
Give me your stuff and cancel your sub immediately. They need to bring back capital punishment...
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Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 15:30:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Ricdic
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
not me, i'm playing city of villains.
Give me your stuff and cancel your sub immediately. They need to bring back capital punishment...
wilco!
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Shadarle
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Posted - 2007.10.02 16:12:00 -
[83]
For a second I thought I was reading the wrong forum.
This is quite an amusing thread. It makes me wonder how much KIA is being payed... and how many mercs and how much damage I could cause with a mere fraction of my wallet being used.
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Juha85
Beasts of Burden
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.10.02 16:18:00 -
[84]
Originally by: FastLearner
Originally by: Kitex
Quote:
Attacking the starbase of a war target in high security space would occasionally result in a global criminal flag. This no longer occurs.
Thats from the Rev 2 Patch notes. I can't confirm that it works that way in practice, but I'd assume POS's are now fair game to war targets.
Yeah, my experience is that high-sec POSes can now be attacked without concord intervention. Pretty messy business - bs don't stand up real well to being primaried by a bunch of pos guns. I'd suggest you sling up a bunch of hardeners (so they have to be there all day just to reinforce the pos) plus a neut and some medium guns (larges just won't hit if bs have any sort of traversal speed). Shame you can't use POS gunners in high-sec but hard to see how they can achieve much.
I';d guess this war-dec is NOT from a competitor - it's just not reasonable from a cost perspective. It's either:
1. A merc-wannabe corp trying to extort some cash,
2/ Someone with a personal grudge who doesn't care about getting value for money.
OK I didnt bother reading the whole thread again.. :) However a POS can be easily taken down with a battleship fleet if they take the time. Why? The scan resolution on the scramblers / guns is so horrible that you can warp in, shoot a few vollies, warp out. Rinse and repeat and you have a dead pos
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Kazuo Ishiguro
House of Marbles
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 16:22:00 -
[85]
I would like to draw people's attention to this thread:
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=602338
It will be possible, in future, based on that response, for people to use war decs to destroy high-sec towers and steal all structures anchored at them. Looks like operating costs for researchers are set to rise again; we can only hope that alliance copying is fixed to help offset this.
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SonOfAGhost
Minmatar Munitions and Tactical Assets Repository
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.02 19:48:00 -
[86]
Originally by: LordInvisible
if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds.
Like when your Megathron ran through the gate to escape my Hurricane? Quote:
ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;)
So you're going to wardec your current employer for how much exactly?
Quote:
and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT..
A clear demonstration of your lack of understanding and why you should stick to combat, not market PvP.
Who needs the Nikkei when there's EBay?
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 20:32:00 -
[87]
Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 20:33:14
Originally by: SonOfAGhost
Originally by: LordInvisible
if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds.
Like when your Megathron ran through the gate to escape my Hurricane? Quote:
ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;)
So you're going to wardec your current employer for how much exactly?
Quote:
and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT..
A clear demonstration of your lack of understanding and why you should stick to combat, not market PvP.
tried to stay out of this topic, but as u addressed me in wrong view, i'll try to explain your noobness how stuff work:
u ever heard for snipers? Thats ships which achieve long range with their largest weapons for decent dmg. And it happend, that i was in sniper that time u engaged me on that g8s. I was fitted for POS shooting, so i had sentries too. As u noticed, your shield and 1/3 of armor melted while u were approaching me, but once u started to orbit, my 425mm rails couldnt track u anymore.
So, maybe u are that stupid to sit there and get pwned, but i am not, so yes, i had to ran away and get other ship, which could track u down on 5km orbit. I did, I pwned u, and all is well..
as for wardec: offers are welcome, but this is not my part anymore. Talk to ceo.
trust me, some ppl will consider buying alliance if there is an active war on them. Just beacuse that means more POS management with AMMO and STRONT, hard recruiting and stuff. But what would i know, right? Am probably older in eve then u..
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 21:15:00 -
[88]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Edited by: LordInvisible on 02/10/2007 20:33:14
Originally by: SonOfAGhost
Originally by: LordInvisible
if u will get some balls to fight on equal grounds.
Like when your Megathron ran through the gate to escape my Hurricane? Quote:
ofc, we are mercs, we go with that one who payes us better;)
So you're going to wardec your current employer for how much exactly?
Quote:
and research alliance in war drops in value by ALOT..
A clear demonstration of your lack of understanding and why you should stick to combat, not market PvP.
tried to stay out of this topic, but as u addressed me in wrong view, i'll try to explain your noobness how stuff work:
u ever heard for snipers? Thats ships which achieve long range with their largest weapons for decent dmg. And it happend, that i was in sniper that time u engaged me on that g8s. I was fitted for POS shooting, so i had sentries too. As u noticed, your shield and 1/3 of armor melted while u were approaching me, but once u started to orbit, my 425mm rails couldnt track u anymore.
So, maybe u are that stupid to sit there and get pwned, but i am not, so yes, i had to ran away and get other ship, which could track u down on 5km orbit. I did, I pwned u, and all is well..
as for wardec: offers are welcome, but this is not my part anymore. Talk to ceo.
trust me, some ppl will consider buying alliance if there is an active war on them. Just beacuse that means more POS management with AMMO and STRONT, hard recruiting and stuff. But what would i know, right? Am probably older in eve then u..
what?
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LordInvisible
Gallente
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 22:14:00 -
[89]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
what?
http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/exercises/main/reading.html
www.google.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/
www.wikipedia.org
www.eve-online.com
here, start reading this, come back when u can read and understand things that I wrote..
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 22:35:00 -
[90]
Originally by: LordInvisible
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
what?
http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/exercises/main/reading.html
www.google.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/
www.wikipedia.org
www.eve-online.com
here, start reading this, come back when u can read and understand things that I wrote..
what?
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Barry Badrinath
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.02 22:39:00 -
[91]
Originally by: LordInvisible
blah blah blah
Worst mercenary corp in Eve history.
True story.
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Motivated Prophet
Zerodot Schools
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 22:52:00 -
[92]
Gentlemen, please keep it at least vaguely on-topic and non-stupid, or we'll receive a soft kiss from the modbat.
MP
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.02 22:54:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Motivated Prophet
Gentlemen, please keep it at least vaguely on-topic and non-stupid, or we'll receive a soft kiss from the modbat.
MP
what?
pew pew is on topic.
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Grimpak
Gallente
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 02:30:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Motivated Prophet
Gentlemen, please keep it at least vaguely on-topic and non-stupid, or we'll receive a soft kiss from the modbat.
MP
what?
pew pew is on topic.
wtf? have you been reading my rules book?
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Four Degrees
Caldari
Alternative End
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.03 02:48:00 -
[95]
Edited by: Four Degrees on 03/10/2007 02:50:06
Originally by: LordInvisible
Drivel.
The original arguement came about due to the fact that the contract has been taken out by an employer who as of yet is unknown. Essentially everything has been cloak and dagger, and they've yet to publically declare their grudge/intentions/whatever, which to me seems weak albeit I accept it's gonna happen. How the actual war is carried out, whether it be by their wallet, their own ships or their words is irrelevant - it's all fair game.
Now, assuming this isn't just one big farce and you have genuinely been contracted. You're in a merc corp, in which you've been paid to initiate war on Zzz. What baffles me is how you can then get so surprised that Ricdic employs the same tactics to protect his investment/investors/customers. Unless you're trying to say that what you're doing in itself is cheap, then how can you blame KIA from being brought in to the party? (and what a party it was)
As for your retorts to the so-called 'trolls', they've done your corp no favors (and yourself for that matter) and I'm surprised your employer isn't having second thoughts.
As a customer for Zzz, for a decent length of time I can say that this war dec has really had little to no impact on me. Research is still researching, ships are still intact and my wallet is still in my pocket. And while I can't speak for the whole alliance, to me it just feels like business as usual.
Inadvertantly, you've probably advertised the alliance if anything. X) On that note time to slap some more BPOs in the oven.
Good luck versus KIA.
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Jahn Lal
Brackhaven Research and Developement
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.03 03:55:00 -
[96]
Edited by: Jahn Lal on 03/10/2007 03:56:26
Originally by: Four Degrees
As a customer for Zzz, for a decent length of time I can say that this war dec has really had little to no impact on me. Research is still researching, ships are still intact and my wallet is still in my pocket. And while I can't speak for the whole alliance, to me it just feels like business as usual.
I can honestly say that I have seen no impact on my wallet or my activities from this so called war that was declared by this so called merc corp. I ferried hundreds of millions worth of BPs around 5 systems multiple times today without even a peep from these losers.
The Phoenix Mercenaries are a pathetic excuse for a merc corp. It's insulting to be war dec'd by such ineptitude.
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.03 05:41:00 -
[97]
Edited by: Hexxx on 03/10/2007 05:42:20
Originally by: LordInvisible
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
what?
http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/exercises/main/reading.html
www.google.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/
www.wikipedia.org
www.eve-online.com
here, start reading this, come back when u can read and understand things that I wrote..
1. You are older than me in game by about 7 days.
2. You are highly likely to be younger than me in RL due to your incredibly poor grammar, punctuation, horrible arogance...ok, I'll sum it up. You sound like a teenager. I usually don't harp on spelling though. Lucky u.
3. You complain too much. No one cares if you "weren't set up for a fight". When you're in 0.0 no one cares if you're ready to fight, or if the odds are fair, or whatever. It's a fight. Pew pew. Etc. Do your best to run away and pray that you get the upper hand the next time around...but my God, don't whine about it.
4. Mercenaries are normally pretty professional people. MC for example is highly professional. If you're the spokesperson for your Corp (15 days of employment to date, you must be a heavy hitter to do PR by yourself) you're doing a HORRIBLE JOB.
5. You have no concept of how a Research Alliance makes money and what the true impact of War is. Which is to say, not much. Yes, there is an impact. No, it will not "break the bank".
6. You jump around Corps entirely too much which means you have a short attention span or the corps your in don't last long. who knows!
All of the above is highly constructive criticism, I hope you use my feedback to improve yourself physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
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LaVista Vista
Aliastra
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Posted - 2007.10.03 05:46:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Jahn Lal
Edited by: Jahn Lal on 03/10/2007 03:56:26
Originally by: Four Degrees
As a customer for Zzz, for a decent length of time I can say that this war dec has really had little to no impact on me. Research is still researching, ships are still intact and my wallet is still in my pocket. And while I can't speak for the whole alliance, to me it just feels like business as usual.
I have made more isk during the wardec than i ever have before
I can honestly say that I have seen no impact on my wallet or my activities from this so called war that was declared by this so called merc corp. I ferried hundreds of millions worth of BPs around 5 systems multiple times today without even a peep from these losers.
The Phoenix Mercenaries are a pathetic excuse for a merc corp. It's insulting to be war dec'd by such ineptitude.
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SentryRaven
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 10:01:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Grimpak
[...]
wtf? have you been reading my rules book?
What?
With best regards,
SentryRaven
KIA Noobship Pilot
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:08:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Hexxx
Edited by: Hexxx on 03/10/2007 05:42:20
Originally by: LordInvisible
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
what?
http://depts.gallaudet.edu/englishworks/exercises/main/reading.html
www.google.com
http://dictionary.reference.com/
www.wikipedia.org
www.eve-online.com
here, start reading this, come back when u can read and understand things that I wrote..
1. You are older than me in game by about 7 days.
2. You are highly likely to be younger than me in RL due to your incredibly poor grammar, punctuation, horrible arogance...ok, I'll sum it up. You sound like a teenager. I usually don't harp on spelling though. Lucky u.
3. You complain too much. No one cares if you "weren't set up for a fight". When you're in 0.0 no one cares if you're ready to fight, or if the odds are fair, or whatever. It's a fight. Pew pew. Etc. Do your best to run away and pray that you get the upper hand the next time around...but my God, don't whine about it.
4. Mercenaries are normally pretty professional people. MC for example is highly professional. If you're the spokesperson for your Corp (15 days of employment to date, you must be a heavy hitter to do PR by yourself) you're doing a HORRIBLE JOB.
5. You have no concept of how a Research Alliance makes money and what the true impact of War is. Which is to say, not much. Yes, there is an impact. No, it will not "break the bank".
6. You jump around Corps entirely too much which means you have a short attention span or the corps your in don't last long. who knows!
All of the above is highly constructive criticism, I hope you use my feedback to improve yourself physically, emotionally, and spiritually.
just fyi, hexxx isn't me.
he's way too, what's the word... politically correct to be me. although, on an alt, i'm also that way. oh wait, according to that one (now two) guy(s), i AM an alt.
bleh, whichever.
my question stands to that merc-esque dude -- what?
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Aira Phlux
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:12:00 -
[101]
The number of times the text "balls" appears in this thread, disturbs me greatly.
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Ezoran DuBlaidd
Rivers Enterprises
Power Corrupts Industry's
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:14:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Aira Phlux
The number of times the text "balls" appears in this thread, disturbs me greatly.
is it inversely proportional to "pew pew" ?
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Hexxx
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:18:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd
Originally by: Aira Phlux
The number of times the text "balls" appears in this thread, disturbs me greatly.
is it inversely proportional to "pew pew" ?
Inversely? I thought it was directly proportional myself.
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Aira Phlux
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 12:45:00 -
[104]
Edited by: Aira Phlux on 03/10/2007 12:47:51
Sadly I think it lacks proportion. When the pew pew decreases the balls definately increase to compensate inversely. However I suspect that the balls will also increase if/when pew pew increases making it directly proportional. Therefore as both inverse and direct proportions are in effect I conclude neither really exist. This may create a paradox and tear a hole in reality or might just be text on the internets.
(edited because typos make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry. [/cheeseyquote])
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KarateKid
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.10.03 15:40:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Aira Phlux
Edited by: Aira Phlux on 03/10/2007 12:47:51
(edited because typos make me angry, you wouldn't like me when I'm angry. [/cheeseyquote])
oh, I think you would be pretty cute when your angry 
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KIAEddZ
Caldari
KIA Corp
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 16:44:00 -
[106]
Can all KIA pilots stay off this thread, that is an order.
Phoenix Mercenaries:
Take stock, drop the dec, and go do something else, you have pilots and they can achieve something, this time you have been unfortunate that your intended target has VERY deep pockets and has a way to my ear.
If you want to continue with your contract, so be it. Your Marks POS will not be harmed as long as KIA is under employment, and your pilots will not be safe ANYWHERE in empire.
Despite the smack and the drivel contained in this thread, it would be a shame to see any entity fail before it gets a chance to achieve, move on, do something else and prove the doubters wrong, is my only advice to you, and belive me, I know what its like being doubted as Merc Corp and turn it around.
There will be no further post by any KIA member including myself, we will do our talking in the systems you inhabit.
Safe flight, until we meet of course.
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Vrizuh
Eve Defence Force
Praesidium Libertatis
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Posted - 2007.10.03 17:06:00 -
[107]
Edited by: Vrizuh on 03/10/2007 17:06:26
Aw man, I was looking forward to a FOX sitcom involving Aira and that Tri guy. 2 seasons of "will they, wont they?" followed by a cancellation and subsequent movie deal after the ensuing cult following racks up the dvd purchases.
Way to ruin it!
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Wesley Baird
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.10.03 18:43:00 -
[108]
What a boring war dec I feel sorry for KIA...
Merc work is one thing....boring merc work....well...it always ends up in corpies shooting each other....
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Typhis Deterious
Trinity Nova
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 19:08:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Wesley Baird
What a boring war dec I feel sorry for KIA...
Merc work is one thing....boring merc work....well...it always ends up in corpies shooting each other....
I only ever shot at my corp mates once. But they asked me to!
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Mithrass
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Posted - 2007.10.04 14:50:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Grimpak
wtf? have you been reading my rules book?
what?
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Kirjava
Lothian Quay Industries
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.04 21:50:00 -
[111]
In a years time, when the Phoenix Mercenaries are but a grey dust I use on my frozen pathway to stop frost getting there, people will remember this war as an omen.
The moral is - dont **** with a carebear, they can beat the **** out of you by proxy of a badass mercenary corp that is yet to understand the concept of overkill.
Riddik 4tw.
This has been an official annoucement from Lothian Archives.
Originally by: CCP Morpheus
Post with your alt.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.05 04:15:00 -
[112]
rofl. I guess messing with carebears in most cases doesn't yield the results that this one has. But I don't really consider myself the same as most carebears in this game. If it were my isk and not a public alliance I would have probably done far less.
Due specifically to the fact that I have 400-500 alts and 120 odd investors counting on me failure is not an option. I don't care if I lose every single isk in game that I own as the only reason I still play this game is for the love of the industrial and stock markets and the enjoyment I get out of running public ventures that benefit everybody. If I lose investor/customer confidence to a point where I feel I am deemed inept you won't see me log back into Eve again. It's the only thing that keeps me in this game.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.08 05:27:00 -
[113]
Quote:
2007.10.06 17:33
CONCORD has declared this war invalid as it breaches one or more articles in the Yulai Convention.
For the time being the war is over. Thanks to everyone for your support and KIA for their stellar military presence during the conflict resulting in zero lost Zzz ships or assets from the time their war went active (may be incorrect but none have yet been reported).
Thanks to The Phoenix Mercenaries guys for being good sports as well, very little smack occured and I chatted with some of them in-game at various intervals they seem like good blokes.
There has been no direct resolution at this point so it is unknown if the war will be restarted at a later date, I will leave this to Phoenix to comment on if they like.
Thanks all.
(note: Zzz don't go undocking yet, they can still attack for another 10-15 hours or so)
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Havok Pierce
Gallente
Black Lance
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.10.08 14:33:00 -
[114]
Originally by: LordInvisible
no, u are bending my statement just to troll and make us look stupid, which u failed.
We dont ask, we just started to do what we were told to do.
And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play..
U should hire somebody to think instead of u, would be more fruitfull then trolling here..
He doesn't need to do anything to make you look stupid. Not that my opinion of your corp was very high to begin with...
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Investigador
Caldari
Hator inc
The Omni Federation
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Posted - 2007.10.08 16:07:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Havok Pierce
Originally by: LordInvisible
no, u are bending my statement just to troll and make us look stupid, which u failed.
We dont ask, we just started to do what we were told to do.
And we were never afraid of engaging as u could see from only two engagements we had before blob came..I engaged 2 of them, knowing that 4 were in next system, 2 of them flying BSs with t2 loot:) and risking that kia would bring remote reppers into play..
U should hire somebody to think instead of u, would be more fruitfull then trolling here..
He doesn't need to do anything to make you look stupid. Not that my opinion of your corp was very high to begin with...
LOL, Havok, by the time you wrote this post LordInvisible had already left 5 days ago Phoenix Mercenaries (the merc corp Ricdic was talking about) and had joined yet another corp.
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Fitz VonHeise
The New Order.
United Connection's
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Posted - 2007.10.09 00:19:00 -
[116]
Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 09/10/2007 00:20:38
Originally by: Ricdic
There has been no direct resolution at this point so it is unknown if the war will be restarted at a later date, I will leave this to Phoenix to comment on if they like.
Eve TV says your going to sell Zzz. I thought you weren't going to be forced out of the business by this wardec'ing?
And if the person who wardec'ed you buys Zzz wouldn't they have won?
Won't prices go up?
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Ardent Rellik
Gallente
MURAKAMI INDUSTRIES
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Posted - 2007.10.09 01:07:00 -
[117]
Did anyone notice that the people from the merc corp are in BOB now... LOL Kinda funny stuff....
BOB Declared Ricdic! Everyone, don their tinfoil hats now...
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.09 03:07:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Fitz VonHeise
Edited by: Fitz VonHeise on 09/10/2007 00:20:38
Originally by: Ricdic
There has been no direct resolution at this point so it is unknown if the war will be restarted at a later date, I will leave this to Phoenix to comment on if they like.
Eve TV says your going to sell Zzz. I thought you weren't going to be forced out of the business by this wardec'ing?
The reason for the offer to sell was specifically because I felt I wasn't equipped well enough to handle the war and I can only throw money at the problem so many times. I have the time to run Zzz no problem, but in a war I realise just how much extra work is involved. I won't be auctioning off Zzz any time soon, I just put the word out that I was considering buyers, and for people to contact me if interested.
Quote:
And if the person who wardec'ed you buys Zzz wouldn't they have won?
Won't prices go up?
Well I put the sale query through before hearing that those against me were likely competitors. If I had known for sure that this was the case I probably would have not sold in spite. Regarding prices it depends on the level of existing ownership of the research market they have.
For now, there have been a few queries but nothing really solid so C-R-A/Zzz will continue to operate under my ownership for the time being.
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Yvelle
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Posted - 2007.10.09 16:01:00 -
[119]
Someone needs to put up a picture of 500 carebears doing the carebear stare at those mercs.....
Back on topic, how much heads-up will you give your member corps before you sell off ZZZ ? Looking at how well you handled this, I'm interesting in moving my alt corp into ZZZ to help you earn some of my hard-grinded ISKs.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.10 01:00:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Yvelle
Back on topic, how much heads-up will you give your member corps before you sell off ZZZ ?
Those in alliance are concerned about this as well. I will give at least 1 month of notice before a sale is actioned (me removing my ceo roles) due to my having a few rorqual bpo's in research belonging to a customer. Once they finish (40 days or so) if a buyer has been sourced, the sale will go through.
Having said that, I am not actively selling/auctioning off Zzz just opened the doors to communication to anyone interested. At this point I am happy to go along with it and see no need to rush any sale.
Quote:
Looking at how well you handled this, I'm interesting in moving my alt corp into ZZZ to help you earn some of my hard-grinded ISKs.
I am more than happy to take your isk, feel free to click the link under my sig
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Deltaris Prima
The Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:03:00 -
[121]
We, The Phoenix Mercenaries have successfully completed our contract against Zzz. From the time our war declaration was announced, 10 corporations have left Zzz, and nearly 20% of total alliance members have dropped out. This was our primary objective laid out by our contracter (who still wish to remain anonymous). Our secondary goal was to take out POSs, which was deterred by the hiring of KIA alliance against our corporation.
On a side note, Lordinvisible had no authorization to make any announcements on behalf of The Phoenix Mercenaries, and he is no longer part of our corporaction.
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LaVista Vista
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:07:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Deltaris Prima
From the time our war declaration was announced, 10 corporations have left Zzz, and nearly 20% of total alliance members have dropped out.
While it might be true, have you considered that its very likely that those people will be back now that the war is over?
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.10 08:11:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Deltaris Prima
We, The Phoenix Mercenaries have successfully completed our contract against Zzz. From the time our war declaration was announced, 10 corporations have left Zzz, and nearly 20% of total alliance members have dropped out. This was our primary objective laid out by our contracter (who still wish to remain anonymous). Our secondary goal was to take out POSs, which was deterred by the hiring of KIA alliance against our corporation.
On a side note, Lordinvisible had no authorization to make any announcements on behalf of The Phoenix Mercenaries, and he is no longer part of our corporaction.
Good job on the contract.
It should also be advised so as not to skew the results, that 1 of the 10 corporations was a 130 member corporation who left as theirs weren't alts but industrialists who (iirc) have since applied to rejoin Zzz Alliance.
But yes, a few others would have left as well (don't have info on those) but even during the war 6 other corporations joined Zzz Alliance
I can report that 3 Phoenix Mercenaries left their corporation during the counter-wardec and I don't believe any of them undocked for a week.
Anyway, spoke to a few of your boys Deltaris and they seem like good blokes so keep them busy, and let me know if you decide to accept my offer to attack your employer. Grats for not surrendering to Zzz as well even when faced with such insurmountable odds.
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Alvara
Kuiper Belt Industries
Empire Research
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Posted - 2007.10.10 14:43:00 -
[124]
Glad to see its over.
Wardec's are fun at times though. Gives me a chance to go hunting. ;)
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Posted - 2007.10.15 14:37:00 -
[125]
Accept the offer. The perpetrator must be burned.
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Ricdic
Caldari
Corporate Research And Production Pty Ltd
Zzz
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Posted - 2007.10.15 15:18:00 -
[126]
Originally by: bluejeansandpudding
Accept the offer. The perpetrator must be burned.
Please stop dredging up old posts or forum mods will be advised.
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