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sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.30 10:49:00 - [1] I hav'nt seen a official from the fatal/mpire guys actualy confirm this yet but i must say it has been coming for a while. Ever since FATAL brought in a bunch of carebears from ex-lv they were on a slippery slope to defeat. It is why i left 2-3 months ago and why a corp i have a lot of respect for left a few weeks ago. I think gunny saw the way the wind was blowing and bailed from the leadership of FATAL early, leaving it to others to take the hit on there reputations. It is quite a supprise though that with nearly 3000 ppl on paper and a highly defensable area like the area around BKG is that the new north cannot hold it almost indefinatly or at least longer than they have. Perhaps its a cunning plan to form a solid front nearer BOB space so they can counter the uber blob of goons and their allies or just the result of letting to many parasitical carebears into their alliance's either way a full post by a FATAL or new north leader would be welcome for confirmation.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:27:00 - [2] Originally by: R Worker102 First of all its never was "the new north", they never earned there space in the first place. You can not keep something you did not earn. If they would of took the space they where living in with out the help of MC or any other type of hired gun, even if they didn't hire them, then it would of been a lot different. Why well for one, you have to defend something you earned, your never really defend something that is giving to you as it holds no real value to you, just the value you think it holds.. FATAL and other fought up in branch to take the systems buddy and its not like RAZOR took back there systems without a lot of help. And also initialy running from MC until they have left and then coming back with MM and half the drone area plus others does'nt make you the better or rightful space holders any more that the new north was. Originally by: R Worker102 RZR, MM, and other allies living up north for the longest time earned our space with hard work and team work. We will fight until the death for our space, we make back up once in a while but only to come back stronger. Something that EMPIRE, FATAL, FALLON, COWS, can't or will not understand until they take and hold space they rally earned. They would of never stayed up there they will of never defended it the why someone who earned there space would of. You were not willing to fight to the death for it when FATAL/MC and allies took it from you, you ran until MC left and came back tried to take it a few times and failed until you had a blob big enough to do it. Who do you think you are kidding with this self righteous drivel?.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.30 11:44:00 - [3] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 30/09/2007 11:45:13 Originally by: R Worker102 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Originally by: R Worker102 First of all its never was "the new north", they never earned there space in the first place. You can not keep something you did not earn. If they would of took the space they where living in with out the help of MC or any other type of hired gun, even if they didn't hire them, then it would of been a lot different. Why well for one, you have to defend something you earned, your never really defend something that is giving to you as it holds no real value to you, just the value you think it holds.. FATAL and other fought up in branch to take the systems buddy and its not like RAZOR took back there systems without a lot of help. And also initialy running from MC until they have left and then coming back with MM and half the drone area plus others does'nt make you the better or rightful space holders any more that the new north was. Originally by: R Worker102 RZR, MM, and other allies living up north for the longest time earned our space with hard work and team work. We will fight until the death for our space, we make back up once in a while but only to come back stronger. Something that EMPIRE, FATAL, FALLON, COWS, can't or will not understand until they take and hold space they rally earned. They would of never stayed up there they will of never defended it the why someone who earned there space would of. You were not willing to fight to the death for it when FATAL/MC and allies took it from you, you ran until MC left and came back tried to take it a few times and failed until you had a blob big enough to do it. Who do you think you are kidding with this self righteous drivel?. first of all, its was more like MC come up took the north and people followed after. Fatal didn't fight for jack until right after MC did most maybe even all the hard work. Anyone who thinks they earned anything is a moron and needs to go back to preschool to learn basic reading and common sense. They did the right thing leaving, we all hope they do the right thing and stay out of the south or they will be seeing the force that was in BKG right up there faces again. We earned our space with our allies, MC isn't an allie to anyone other then the blues the pick up from paid jobs, and of course BOB. YOU ran from MC/FATAL and you came back lost a few big fleet fights in BKG until you gathered a big enough blob to beat them, a lot of the blob was non-RAZOR and if you think that theres anybody who does'nt know that your the moron pal. And tri left the fight in BKG cos of your incompetant fcing btw.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.30 12:42:00 - [4] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean YOU ran from MC/FATAL and you came back lost a few big fleet fights in BKG until you gathered a big enough blob to beat them, a lot of the blob was non-RAZOR and if you think that theres anybody who does'nt know that your the moron pal. And tri left the fight in BKG cos of your incompetant fcing btw. I don't know who "R Worker102" is, but my guess is that you think he's RZR affiliated... When MC came to Branch and Tenal, we tried to help D2 keep BKG and LXW, but the sheer numbers and capitals and broken MS and titans weren't something that we could match. Branch fell and then, Tenal fell. We've put up fights, even assembled 300 in BKG once, put 3 hostile POSes in RF, but D2 was falling and on our own we couldn't keep the pace. How were we supposed to match them when they could defend a POS with a single MS??? RZR retreated and 2 weeks later stroke a weaker opponent, which was ****. Why are you blaming us for being relentless in our attacks??? Really, why are you trying to prove? Try looking into the context of my reply and you will see. Matey boy recons that mpire/fatal lost space cos they did'nt earn it by fighting solo for it while razor did. My reply is that razor were hardly on there own when they initialy took branch and tenal and they comprised of im told less than 60% of the fleets that took it back. Read up the replies and check how much crap he is talking and if yopur honest i think you may see my point.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The Illuminati.	Posted - 2007.09.30 14:48:00 - [5] Originally by: Goktar illiat Originally by: Trask Kilraen I was sorry to see some ex-comrades fighting for BoB. :/ I never thought STK Scientific would go to "the Dark Side." Here's hoping those guys buy a clue and reconsider. this. I'd wish people understood that once bob is gone its gonna be one big standing reset. Then why bring the drone area blue to goon blob up to fight in bkg?. I like razor and i understand you wanna be anti-bob but to be pro-goon would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 09:48:00 - [6] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 09:52:58 Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Edited by: Fleg Dorchit on 03/10/2007 09:00:35 marakor, sopisticatedlimabean or what ever, I know who you are. I used to be in fatal, and quite frankly you were one of the worst players and people I had the mispleasure to meet. I missed nearly every body in fatal when I left, but not you, you were the most shortsighted person, your FCing was laughable when I went on your ops, you were outspoken and a downright tit. Beware hiring this pilot corps, he's an idiot. Howler, Spang etc... You left fatal in april not long after we moved out of the drone area so unless your refering to the cruiser squads i ran during the day and hardly lost a ship id say your full off crap. But hey its always nice to hear from a blast from the past even if it is a clown trying to defend other tossers by making up crap about ppl. And of course there is the fact of what is happening now that proves more than anything i can post how bad and pitiful FATAL has become. Ive had more invites and convos from ppl who know me and others who remember me asking me advise since the implosion and subsequent fall of fatal than i can keep up with. Acusation from losers like you and others of me turning up to fleet ops in a cov ops without a mic and other absurdiies have only served to push apart those who know the truth and those living in a spiteful dream world. Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets. FATAL died after it left the drone area it just took a long time to stop kicking and lie down.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 10:36:00 - [7] Now all you need do is point out those poor tactics and you may get ppl to belive you. Oh and btw i think you got me mixed up with sombody else as apart from the amasingly successful cruiser gangs and the night we and MC killed the MS it was gunny/dj and others who led the support fleet in the drone area. Try again or get your facts right bud.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 10:58:00 - [8] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05 Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody. I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way. Besides its really fun baiting you. We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet. Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best. Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 11:34:00 - [9] Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 11:05:05 Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Oh believe me, I could never mix you up with anybody. I seem to remember you organising repsonse ops when we were being invaded before the outpost went up. I remember one time being in your gang and ending up chasing 1 or 2 ships which led to us getting pincered the good old fashioned way. Besides its really fun baiting you. We got invaded before the outpost went up?. We barly lost a ship before the outpost went up you muppet. Thanks im getting more and more ppl convo/chat to me on TS and having a laugh as we speak your the best. Do yourself a big favor stop posting bullsh*t bud it just males you look desperate and foolish. Ow I am so hurt. why would I stop posting? I enjoy seeing you get more bitter and angry. :) Buddy theres a party on the vent server im on and the only bitter on it is what is being drank along with other beers and plenty of loling at you and the fail-incarnate that is fatal. we are looking for suitable names how about; Failed At The Alliance Level Thats the best we have come up with so far but seeing as your so clever with the "I was trying to bait you and i did'nt want to prove your a bad FC and lost those imaginary battles anyway". Can you do better?.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 11:50:00 - [10] Honestly and without the entertaining baiting ive been doing?. I not bitter now but i was after i saw how a great compact and dedicated pvp force that we were in the drone area had turned to sit. I spent a lot of time and effort in g95 in bob space and then in branch trying to get ppl ready and there heads into what a 0.0 pos war was like with posts about building cruiser fleets and being on the offensive so our isk making areas were clear. All i got for my trouble was slapped down or ignored, so i left and yes i was very ****d off at a lot of fatal apart from the few hardcore old school boys who agreed with me (they later left as well). So im gonna enjoy this to the utmost with lots of smack plenty of i told ya so's and a lot of LOLing.

sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 13:11:00 - [11] Originally by: Sebo Darrens Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean Look at what is going on in that joke of an alliance at the moment and anybody with eyes can see that apart from a few individuals it has self-destructed because of greedy ppl in FATAL REV and a alliance leader who stepped down but tried to micro manage the guy who took over and undermined his every move with his inner circle of alliance isk makers and puppets. Bean, I know you like to puff yourself up on the public forums and take a **** but this time you've gone too far. You really have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're relaying 3rd hand information you've gotten from one perspective as usual without any thought or rationale involved. We get it, you're bitter about something. But you don't know what you're talking about, so walk away and shut up. Actualy my info comes from the fatal alliance forums lol you realy should remove the access of ppl who have left including all my alts.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation	Posted - 2007.10.03 16:19:00 - [12] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 03/10/2007 16:21:07 Originally by: Fleg Dorchit Originally by: Asuo Originally by: HarrytheDog Gentlemen, some clarification needed here; ol' GreenBean seems to be trying to convince everyone that he left Fatal because of a disagreement with the Alliance leadership over tactics; in reality he left like a sulky teenager because he got slapped-down in public over his forum posting. A quick perusal of the last few pages, noting particularly his name-calling and self-agrandisement will give you an idea of why he was asked to stop. The bitter and aggressive tone of all his posts should be a strong pointer to those who might see my assertion as biased - who the hell gets that steamed up if the only reason for leaving was a disagreement on tactics? Tbh, I know that I speak for all my Corp and lots of other Fatal members when I say we were glad to see the back of him. I had the misfortune of flying in a couple of ops with him in charge, and quite frankly he sucked large chocolate salty balls; he did teach me everything he knew about FC-ing but that only took 5 minutes. And once he'd decided to leave and sold/moved his assets, he was back in our systems shooting (at) his old mates with Tri, which shows you the character of the bloke. He's an egotistical, misanthroptic, loud-mouthed tit and should be avoided like the plague. Nothing personal beany old fruit I thought it was cos he was a gobby sod who kept trying to steal all the lime light from the people who did the actual work. Couldn't agree more, I thought this over 6 months ago before I left Fatal Rev. Strange how im still getting invites to corps that are all ex-fatal and agree with me considering how poor at fcing and pvp i am. Its almost as if they know me and you guys are bitter about the fall of your pathetic alliance and looking to try to hit out at me for enjoying it. And my problem was with the leadership and the memberswho sat in stations or logged of as soon as a hostile gang came into our area. Example; 15 hostiles inbound, 180 members in alliance chat logged in, a call to gang goes out and the same 3-4 ppl x up everybody else goes deaf and dumb stops talking in alliance chat or in the security channels or on TS. PS; To the last couple of hate mail boys NONE OF THE 3-4 PPL I MENTIONED WERE YOU OR IN EITHER OF YOUR CORPS. And i like being a load moth tit.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 10:08:00 - [13] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:11:45 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:10:01 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 10:09:22 Originally by: Archilies Sophi left because no one took him seroiusly bless him. Actualy a few ppl took me seriously and they left not long after i did. And as a matter of interest how are you guys up in branch (those that did'nt take me seriously) doing????. Oh thats right LOL you just got booted out 2 days or so after deploying a third outpost after not even losing a single of your own systems. Originally by: Archilies Then he whined, and had a paddy because he claimed he had done all the work when in fact he had done ** all.. 1)Leading the most successful gangs ever in fatal (pre-carebear, so mostly before your time) 2) trying to organise a alliance fleet (one night of that and everybody bailed and the minerals went to build a capital ship for one of the inner circle) 3) spending loads of time on the test server trying to find new ways to combat blobing (with a few others helping with this who also left fatal in disgust before your debacle of a war) 4) Xing up for every OP if so much as a single ship came into our area (never saw you or many of your corp doing the same but you were always online) 5) training in system or posting on the alliance forum for the newer players who wanted advise on fittings/fleet ops (never saw you there either) 6) And yes going on and on and on about how if we continued to turtle up instead of fighting offensivly we would eventualy fall due to the fact we would be fighting in or near our isk making areas** (Considering fatals last few days id say you and the rest of the arrogant r*tards should have listened more and slagged me off and ignored me less, but hey you guys are better at moving home and making isk than you will ever be at fighting) I do not think anybody can argue that the fall of the new north coalition was way to soon considering their numbers and position/high sov left in a lot of systems. Your and others dislike of me and my comments on this forum and fictional acusations regarding my lack of effort are part of your problem. The total collapse of your alliance was due to a complete lack of cohesion in the joke that FATAL turned into and just confirms why people like you will never be anything other than losers and parasites in eve. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 13:24:00 - [14] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 13:34:29 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 13:29:38 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL. 2) Yes the cruiser gangs were before we got a load of carebear *****s who think they know how to pvp like you in the alliance. 3)If you are acusing me of theft of those minerals that were for the alliance fleet i suggest you check your facts before saying they were contracted to me cos i led the pvp gang and never even saw them, they were given ON ORDERS FROM THE ALLIANCE LEADERS to a fatal guy to refine and never seen again. 4) Yes the syealth bombers were one of the ideas we had among lots others we tried to develop WHY ARE YOU FOCUSED ON THAT SINGLE IDEA myself and others tried out more ideas than i can remember on the test server over a period of 5-6 months?. 5) Your right i KB stats dont lie cos in fact i was in aunenen for 1 week out of 10-12 months in FATAL as i said earlier. And by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you **. I just saw how far the alliance had fallen and how few people actualy turned up for the fleet ops and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort. So instead they got stuck with a fella who thinks that losing the field and killing logged off ships with probers is a win for the home team. The people who know me know im talking true (im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us) and those with eyes and ears outside the alliance see that a 3000 member coalition just folded after barley a fight then got into a internal bickering match that broke the alliance into shreds, this says it all about the quality of leadership,FCing and managment of it and confirms what im saying and the best the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks. Fact- you and achillies and others slagging me off on this thread were leaders in FATAL and look at how FATAL is doing. ENOUGH SAID My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:00:00 - [15] Oh and i did'nt wanna spend ages finding spelling mistakes and cutting and pasting venom and hate so i just started a new post you should try it cos it makes you look less petty and fault finding. But at least youve moved away from spelling mistakes and grammar corrections lol. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:20:00 - [16] Originally by: Ivor Gunn Edited by: Ivor Gunn on 04/10/2007 14:12:09 Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean 1) I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk out of 10-12 months with FATAL. Ok. So you make out like you were a major PvPer in FATAL alliance. You managed about 300 kills for 30 losses in your "10-12 months". Utterly pathetic. That's not even a kill a day. (Though, looking closer. Your fatal stats extend for 8 months. a full 4 months short of your 12 month estimate, please do stop exaggerating.) Oh, and about 180 of those were in lowsec. I'd be ashamed to have you as an alliance mate, too. wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:28:00 - [17] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:30:24 Originally by: Ivor Gunn Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean wow you must be the only player in eve without alts cos i had a few in fatal 1 for piracy 1 for empire shall i go on?. So, who're your uber leet fatal pvp alts, then? You know, to debunk the myth that 3/4 of your time was spent in lowsec ganking newbies. you do not realy expect me to tell you that so il lose my access to the forums and you can start trying to find fault with them as well. And if you look closer at the KB as you seem to like it you will see that most of the low sec kills were in aunenen in a single week as i said. Also its always a good idea to FC from a cloaker as i did with this toon but thats not my idea i got it from MC. Gotta love these personal attacks from the guys who led the biggest fail in eve history. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:36:00 - [18] Originally by: Ivor Gunn Well, if you'd been telling the truth and not exaggerating, i'd not be finding any faults at all, would i? Considering your point was that i spent 3/4 of my time in low sec no your not finding fault your trying to and failing. Quote: 11 days. They make up nigh on 70% of your kills. If this is your main, that is a pathetic contribution to your alliance. And yes they make up 70% of my kills on this char as i said its my pirate dude your point?. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:49:00 - [19] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:51:29 Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 14:49:57 Originally by: Ivor Gunn My point was you have no right to criticse your former alliance mates who stood and fought every day for the last 6 months, while you were either apparantly doing nothing at all, or were in empire. Or, using these mystical magical alts that have yet to be seen by anyone. Sophisticatedlimabean as a character is skilled for fleet BSes, yet it is painfully obvious he never flew them. Instead, by your own admission, you were swanning about cloaked, or pirating, or whoring forums on an alt. and STILL you're proud of your contributions to your alliance. So what you do not know you just asume the worst from a negative stance?. I cannot even begin to count the ammount of gangs ive led or joined on one alt or another for fatal or the ammount of time spent on the test server trying things out or other things than sitting in a BS on a gate sniping at other ships although on one alt or another ive done plenty of that as well. And even more personal attacks. They must mean i was'nt right and fatal did'nt fail and fall in the most pathetic way possable. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 14:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Marlon Shakespeare Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean I spent 1 week in aunenen pirating and making isk ... before we got a load of carebear *****s ... on the test server over a period of 5-6 months ... by the way its a FC's job to tell people what to do thats where the COMMANDER in FLEET COMMANDER comes from you ** ... I just saw how far the alliance had fallen ... and decided that FATAL was not worth the effort ... im getting plenty of messages from them agreeing and wanting to join us ... quality of leadership,FCing ... the guy who FC'd this disgrace can do is make personal attacks. So in summary you left (because we were going to lose?) before any of the major battles in the North actually took place, and then come onto the forums (you are an avid poster!) to insult everyone and call them cowards for not fighting harder? How can you be a coward in a virtual game you r*tard?. Incompetant yes, self deluding yes, stupid and narrow minded yes yes, selfish to the point of self destruction most certainly YES. Please show me where i put cowardly cos on your newst snip i dont see it. My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.

sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 15:12:00 - [21] Originally by: Ivor Gunn Originally by: sophisticatedlimabean How can you be a coward in a virtual game you rtard? Whoah, dude! Personal attacks!! Somtimes when ppl post a acusation with a snip that says nothing* to actualy prove their claim you just gotta let the ****** lose. lol My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.
sophisticatedlimabean Gallente The JORG Corporation Methods of Mayhem Alliance	Posted - 2007.10.04 23:36:00 - [22] Edited by: sophisticatedlimabean on 04/10/2007 23:46:33 My views may represent those of my corp/alliance but you will have to ask em to be sure.

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