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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 11:57:00 -
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I have been asked many times my views on this, here they are, like it matters, but here is what i think is brewing.
F-E are pirates, and will always be pirates, them joining the biggest pirate alliance in the game, CA , has just confirmed they have no intention to quit their ways.
they will grow stronger in vale/tribute, and then when they get bored, they will attack venal with their CA buddies..... PA leaving them unhindered in this area could be a big mistake.
what CA get out of this is a foothold at the door to venal, everyone knows the CA and PA dont see eye to eye.
CELES have been attacked many times by CA members, and we have also attacked them, a CA corp declared war against us, but lost the will to fight, and retracted it.
to have these ppl sitting so close to venal means all it takes is one mistake, and a war will be started.
the ironic thing is, i trully believe EVOL will fight alongside PA, against this threat, so while we lose ships to eachother each day, the threat from the south gets stronger.
i respect many corps in the PA, and have made alot of friends, KIA, blades, DSIN, all are amazing PVP corps, but sometimes i think the PA wants peace TOO much . some ppl think im a loose cannon, and in some cases they think this of CELES. but i see us as ppl that look at the big picture.
these are my views, and NOT the corps(which must remain neutral at these times).
im sure i will b proven correct in the next few days/weeks.
d solo.
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Gan Ning
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:03:00 -
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Quote:
they will grow stronger in vale/tribute, and then when they get bored, they will attack venal with their CA buddies.....
The inhabitants of Venal will always be the most picked on in EVE, why? I don't know. Maybe the region is cursed after all...
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KIAInkZ
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:03:00 -
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peace is boring ---
Forums/Killboard - http://www.kia-corp.co.uk |

Reverend Necrona
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:04:00 -
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Make no mistake, if the CA engages he PA it will be a massacre, we are always looking for targets and SA would love a break from the pressure so please dont give us an excuse to offer that to them. Reverend Necrona |

Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:05:00 -
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Quote:
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they will grow stronger in vale/tribute, and then when they get bored, they will attack venal with their CA buddies.....
The inhabitants of Venal will always be the most picked on in EVE, why? I don't know. Maybe the region is cursed after all...
Curse Alliance has endured much more than Venal has, the difference is Curse managed to finally topple their enemies and Venal has been squashed by theirs. ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Psy Corp
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:05:00 -
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Quote:
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they will grow stronger in vale/tribute, and then when they get bored, they will attack venal with their CA buddies.....
The inhabitants of Venal will always be the most picked on in all of EVE, why? I don't know. Maybe the region is cursed after all...
its not cursed its just to close to jove  we do get the joveian sickness alot  or maybe everyone outside gets it cause ehh everone wants a cake neer jove space 
I Have The Power Of The Mighty Lo.0lipop..
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:07:00 -
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Actually the merger is just an undercover diplomatic effort of the CA to bring peace to the EVE universe. As you say PA and EVOL will stop fighting and EVE will be a happier universe. We will keep ending conflicts in this underhanded fashion till there is no more fighting in EVE.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:09:00 -
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Quote: Actually the merger is just an undercover diplomatic effort of the CA to bring peace to the EVE universe. As you say PA and EVOL will stop fighting and EVE will be a happier universe. We will keep ending conflicts in this underhanded fashion till there is no more fighting in EVE.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:15:00 -
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Quote: Actually the merger is just an undercover diplomatic effort of the CA to bring peace to the EVE universe. As you say PA and EVOL will stop fighting and EVE will be a happier universe. We will keep ending conflicts in this underhanded fashion till there is no more fighting in EVE.
If i had my way, i would be hitting F-E with everything we had, while they are stocking up...
the EVOL war could be won using only half our forces, the rest should be attacking mining ops in vale and tribute.
EVOL dont have many guys in Venal, and are using hit and run tactics, with a little more organisation, they would be driven from this area.
i just dont want to come against an well equiped enemy in a few weeks time, that we left in peace knowing the threat would come in time.
and yes, peace is boring, war is fun.
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:17:00 -
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Darth, we just want peace .... is it that hard  Mongo speaks !!
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The Mizz
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:17:00 -
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Quote: Make no mistake, if the CA engages he PA it will be a massacre, we are always looking for targets and SA would love a break from the pressure so please dont give us an excuse to offer that to them.
Less talk more fighting
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Christopher Xen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:22:00 -
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Why would we need to go to venal? Evolution seems to be doing a fantastic job owning you.
Whys everything we do always gotta be about you you you?
What about our needs?
As I recall Curse gave us the riot act about piracy and we said ok, so...We dont pirate.
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Fenring
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:23:00 -
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Quote: Darth, we just want peace .... is it that hard 
You want peace? so you join an alliance which attacks anyone it perceives as easy pickings? or anyone they dont like.
Makes sence doesnt it.
Afterall if I wanted peace, I would of course go and join an alliance which is at war with almost every other alliance. "The enemy to be feared is the one who wears the face of a friend"
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:26:00 -
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Yeah, that's just plain whacked.
"We want peace so we'll join an alliance renowned for its warmongering and lame excuses for going to war".
Errr, yappity yap?
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:30:00 -
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Quote: Yeah, that's just plain whacked.
"We want peace so we'll join an alliance renowned for its warmongering and lame excuses for going to war".
Errr, yappity yap?
you mean stain alliance right, back when their bite matched their bark. ------
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Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:33:00 -
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Well actions speak louder than words ...... but as I have been informed to "end" all combat operations apart from self defence ..... I will treat your comments as pure trolling  Mongo speaks !!
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Paddyman
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Paddyman on 18/02/2004 12:44:49
Quote: the EVOL war could be won using only half our forces
Quote: EVOL dont have many guys in Venal, and are using hit and run tactics, with a little more organisation, they would be driven from this area
ooooooooooo, now that is a boast, i'll give you some free advice here, why dont you try win it with everything you've got first. Then "if" you manage to completely own them and have a glorious kill ratio THEN you say/operate this. Untill then you shouldn't be claiming that or giving them ideas about bringing up more forces.
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:35:00 -
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Can we please have the Pope's view on weed now?
 
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:36:00 -
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I'll wait until I see what FE do in U-QVWD before I agree on whether I was trolling or not.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 12:42:00 -
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Quote: the EVOL war could be won using only half our forces, the rest should be attacking mining ops in vale and tribute.
While I hate to toot EVOL's horn here but it seems as though they've pretty much laid a complete smackdown on Venal and you guys have lost a lot of ships (perhaps not CELES, but PA has).
You guys brag so much on forums about how uber pirate hunters/PvPers you are, why can't you get your **** together and take on Evolution and score some victories? ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:05:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Bond on 18/02/2004 13:17:15
Quote:
the ironic thing is, i trully believe EVOL will fight alongside PA, against this threat, so while we lose ships to eachother each day, the threat from the south gets stronger.
Maybe you should try negotiating with us to get a cease fire then.
A 3 way war between CA, PA and EVOL in PA space might be fun though 
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Zarquon Beeblebrox
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:11:00 -
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Edited by: Zarquon Beeblebrox on 18/02/2004 13:13:06
Quote:
Quote: the EVOL war could be won using only half our forces, the rest should be attacking mining ops in vale and tribute.
While I hate to toot EVOL's horn here but it seems as though they've pretty much laid a complete smackdown on Venal and you guys have lost a lot of ships (perhaps not CELES, but PA has).
You guys brag so much on forums about how uber pirate hunters/PvPers you are, why can't you get your **** together and take on Evolution and score some victories?
Actualy its quite hard to get EVOLS. Yester day 5 EVOL (3 megatrons, 1 scorp and 1 moa) Ran from a force of 3 CELEST.
EVOL might be good fighters, its just that i have not seen it yet. Who knows when, but i do hope soon.
-- Lady Beeblebrox
Teddybears movies
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Jim Bond
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:13:00 -
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Edited by: Jim Bond on 18/02/2004 13:18:50 Edited by: Jim Bond on 18/02/2004 13:15:07 oops double posted 
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:15:00 -
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poor TMX 
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PropanElgen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:20:00 -
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Quote:
Actualy its quite hard to get EVOLS. Yester day 5 EVOL (3 megatrons, 1 scorp and 1 moa) Ran from a force of 3 CELEST.
EVOL might be good fighters, its just that i have not seen it yet. Who knows when, but i do hope soon.
I think EVOL is using some SPLOIT that has given them the skill "Advanced Evasive Manouvering", and they all got it at level 5. The skill gives 20% decrease to logoff/logon times per level.
All the angels and the puny men of god looked away... Frightened to death by the evil that was born on that day!
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:30:00 -
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I dont understand this, we never do mass log on's or log offs. never ever.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:35:00 -
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After having around 110 of CA's better-known pilots in my address book for months I've always been curious why an awful lot of them kept logging off and on every 10-15 minutes.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:36:00 -
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oh my, ur hatred towards eachother and myself sometimes clouds ur judgment.
PA can field 100 battleships at one time, no problem, will fielding this many ships win a war?, the answer is NO. EVOL are the kings of small group attacks.
all im saying, fighting one enemy, and ignoring another, could be a mistake.
in this game u must use tactics that mirror ur opponents, to not do this would mean defeat, small forces cannot be hunted down by larger forces, safespots and logoffs have made this so.
I am actually pretty poor at PVP, and would prob lose a 1v1 fight against a EVOL vet. PPL sometimes take what is written, and twist it with hate,nowhere have i ever said we would own EVOL, i always respect my opponent ....
CELES have lost 1 ship to EVOL, anyone thinking im posting here looking for an easy way out is a fool, im just showing ppl the threat will come from somewhere else.... if u cant see it, u are blind.
i think PA should be looking for an end to the EVOL situation(a corp that i have always respected) and should be puting all its resourses into tribute/vale, before CA get their teeth into it.
my views only, but i dont mince my words.
i WILL be proven correct.
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Jim Raynor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:37:00 -
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Quote: After having around 110 of CA's better-known pilots in my address book for months I've always been curious why an awful lot of them kept logging off and on every 10-15 minutes.
CUZ j00 AND j00R KESTREL R TEH COUPE DE GRACE ON TEH INDYS PWNING TEH MINER *****AQ. ------
ROBBLE ROBBLE |

Mongo Peck
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:42:00 -
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Quote: i think PA should be looking for an end to the EVOL situation(a corp that i have always respected)
Beg you dog  Mongo speaks !!
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Mitchman
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:45:00 -
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Quote:
You guys brag so much on forums about how uber pirate hunters/PvPers you are, why can't you get your **** together and take on Evolution and score some victories?
Because they sit at safespots until they have 2:1 in numbers, then hit some lone BS to score an easy kill. We've engaged them a number of times, they have outnumbered us in local and been 100km from a station, but has run to safespots. By "us", I mean (generally) Bladerunners.
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:48:00 -
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Quote:
Quote: i think PA should be looking for an end to the EVOL situation(a corp that i have always respected)
Beg you dog 
OK, u have got me, im just bored of traveling 25jumps into venal to find logged off members of EVOL, thet are supposed to be in the system somewhere.
I think CELES have been detracted from their duties as of late, and that is pirate hunting. its what we do, and what we enjoy, i have no love for hunting loan EVOL, when we could be killing griefing rats, its what i play the game for.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:51:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
You guys brag so much on forums about how uber pirate hunters/PvPers you are, why can't you get your **** together and take on Evolution and score some victories?
Because they sit at safespots until they have 2:1 in numbers, then hit some lone BS to score an easy kill. We've engaged them a number of times, they have outnumbered us in local and been 100km from a station, but has run to safespots. By "us", I mean (generally) Bladerunners.
Say it ain't true . And I thought evol were uber pvpers I bet you feel so pwnd now.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 13:55:00 -
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There's a corporation who sits at safespots and I'm not in it?
WTF?
Oh, wait, silly me, some people are such silly nublars that's the only insult they can think of.
Deary me, some people DO know little.
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:00:00 -
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Mr. Solo
Why is it you feel the F.E. pose this huge threat that you keep speaking of?
you have an official word from our spokesperson that comes direct from the EMPORER HIMSELF stating that we no longer engage in active piracy, yet hold the right to clear out our space.
I think you need to focus on the problem at hand rather than get too involved in what were doing down in the vale.
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

Einheriar Ulrich
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:05:00 -
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Quote: After having around 110 of CA's better-known pilots in my address book for months I've always been curious why an awful lot of them kept logging off and on every 10-15 minutes.
Awww its so sweet Joshua, this shows you really care for us, monitoring us around the clock So Say I. Einheriar Ulrich of the Bloodline of Einheriar.
****Minion Of VOTF****
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:11:00 -
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funny, but i dont care...
"We brake for nobody"
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:20:00 -
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Quote: Mr. Solo
Why is it you feel the F.E. pose this huge threat that you keep speaking of?
you have an official word from our spokesperson that comes direct from the EMPORER HIMSELF stating that we no longer engage in active piracy, yet hold the right to clear out our space.
I think you need to focus on the problem at hand rather than get too involved in what were doing down in the vale.
I have a copy of a chat log, made me query my views and opinion on the current situation. to say it made me unhappy, prob wouldnt b correct... seems some folks have a bigger say in our affairs than us.
anyways, u trying to say u wouldnt rather be owning us in p3en and likes again . im sure u are itching to get back into the ratting. fun times.
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DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:20:00 -
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Personally i don't believe that FE would attack Venal because they are getting bored, it's for the simple reason that we have enough wars going on at the moment. We have Stain alliance war going on where i have seen mainly RUS, Black Omega, VOTF, Omega (u) and some others operate. Then we have the CFS region that is our new wargrounds, who i have no idea about who or what fights there (maybe because im not that much impressed with CFS). Then we have Evolution that tried an Curse Invasion, with Fountain forces.
So we have 4 potential targets/hostile factors that are left to attack if FE would get bloodthirsty, i don't see a future reason for FE to attack PA unless we talk PA getting hostile and invading Curse/FE regions. And the Venal region isn't that rich with ores and loot drops that it would be worth to fight over.
We have 4 hostiles and beside those 4 we also got a region to protect, that is 5 locations to gaurd/fight in. Sure we can give Stain a break to fight PA or leave CFS to m0o/FA to kill off, and give em some air... But that would be a waste of operations.
But thats all a personal opinion.  __________________________
http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html |

Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:25:00 -
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LOL if your in P3 we will own your ass whether we got a war with you or not
but you stick to your and we will stick to ours and everything will be.. in the mighty words of del boy, "coushtie rodders"
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

Teeth
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:25:00 -
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Definitely right on Darth.
FE's going legit after taking losses to FA can only mean they're rebuilding.
If we're always on the defensive it's just a matter of math that eventually we'll get squashed.
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:30:00 -
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Darth,
In your sig, are those hexagonal things taken from the daytime student quiz show "Blockbusters"?
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darth solo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:35:00 -
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OMG, i loved that show miso::::)))). im soooooo proud of my sig now. .
and didnt i say we would get owned in p3en mr guerdo .
anyways, had a few hours to burn there, and now my finger hurts with typing. darth solo out .
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Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:37:00 -
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So thats a yes then? Cool.
"Can I have a 'P' please Bob?" -------------------------------------------- Dead
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sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:37:00 -
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ok ill just explain a few things for those who haven't fought whole alliances alone.
1.) your always out numbered 2.) when they form a blob of 70 and your 15-20 you dont engage its simple logic really.
so this is why darth when you come with your mass force you find no evol, infact your wasting your time. we aint gonna fight 4-1 odds and lose loads of ships when we can happly roam around venal ganking many ships.
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 14:39:00 -
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Edited by: Lord Guerdo on 18/02/2004 14:45:59
Quote: Definitely right on Darth.
FE's going legit after taking losses to FA can only mean they're rebuilding.
If we're always on the defensive it's just a matter of math that eventually we'll get squashed.
FE are not going legit due to losses from the FA.
christ get a clue, the loses we took from FA was nothing in comparrison to what we dealt out, and what ever loses we did take have been absorbed and replenished.
dont make lame assed assumptions
kthxbye
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

2003Cobra
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:30:00 -
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Hey guys, just wanted to say thanks fo all the attention=) Gives me something to read while on campus. Whatever happens it will be interesting. Just so you know I have fought over venal quite enough, (fought for TTi, than M3G4, than Biomass, than EPA.) so I can almost assure you I'm pretty bored of that.
2003Cobra |

Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:33:00 -
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My personal Opinion on CA is this.
The last 4 months of people calling us pirates made me realise one thing.
I no longer give a toss what you all think 
I like to blow stuff up, its a rush, whether CA is pirate or not doesnt concern me, just so long as i have things to point my guns at and make die, im happy.
We have pirate friends, sometimes our goals co-incide, sometimes they conflict.
CA makes the game interesting, the Pirate Corps like M0o and SPVD make it interesting, you only have to look what they have done to two alliances to see that.
Im still amazed how much you all watch CA and are enthralled by us.
Mercenary | The Azath |

Nirvy
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:36:00 -
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Quote: After having around 110 of CA's better-known pilots in my address book for months I've always been curious why an awful lot of them kept logging off and on every 10-15 minutes.
Dont be so stupid.
You and Abram surely hold the record for the amount of times you log off in an hour.. Mercenary | The Azath |

sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:40:00 -
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I would like to know why tank CEO logs on and off so much !!!!
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scouting
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:50:00 -
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Quote:
"Can I have a 'P' please Bob?"
light hearted humour quickly turned sour in the early 90's when they started asking for an "E" 
bob was 
--------------------------------------- Last nights patch, was, without doubt, the worst ever. Rest assured that I was on the forum within minutes registering my disgust throughout the world. |

Miso
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Posted - 2004.02.18 15:54:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
"Can I have a 'P' please Bob?"
light hearted humour quickly turned sour in the early 90's when they started asking for an "E" 
bob was 
Oh, the wit of students.
Whatever happened to Bob Holness? I reckon the man is smacked out on E's someone in a retirement home in Dorset. Ah, such imagery...
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Toulak
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:18:00 -
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Whatever happens I hope it involves fun, its a game afterall 
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Metal Dude
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:27:00 -
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You can bet that FE is rebuilding for war. Tigers donĘt lose their stripes. They just blend in to the background before they attack. I have learned that I canĘt believe anything that pirates say. Most of it is put out there to misinform you, and thatĘs exactly what they try to do. If they say ō WeĘre not comingö, then get ready. They are coming. When you see a post on the forums about ō WhoĘs the toughestö, they are looking for the next target. When they say ō We want peaceö, means they are getting ready for war. IĘm not saying thatĘs that a bad tactic. Misinformation is a big part of keeping you enemy unprepared, but if you believe of what they say, you will get burned. I advise to you all is get ready. They will come sooner or later, but they will come. To say that they are no threat is naive at best. Have at least a plan in ęcaseĘ it happens.
The truth will set you free
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crice
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:57:00 -
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Quote: I have been asked many times my views on this, here they are, like it matters, but here is what i think is brewing.
F-E are pirates, and will always be pirates, them joining the biggest pirate alliance in the game, CA , has just confirmed they have no intention to quit their ways.
they will grow stronger in vale/tribute, and then when they get bored, they will attack venal with their CA buddies..... PA leaving them unhindered in this area could be a big mistake.
what CA get out of this is a foothold at the door to venal, everyone knows the CA and PA dont see eye to eye.
CELES have been attacked many times by CA members, and we have also attacked them, a CA corp declared war against us, but lost the will to fight, and retracted it.
to have these ppl sitting so close to venal means all it takes is one mistake, and a war will be started.
the ironic thing is, i trully believe EVOL will fight alongside PA, against this threat, so while we lose ships to eachother each day, the threat from the south gets stronger.
i respect many corps in the PA, and have made alot of friends, KIA, blades, DSIN, all are amazing PVP corps, but sometimes i think the PA wants peace TOO much . some ppl think im a loose cannon, and in some cases they think this of CELES. but i see us as ppl that look at the big picture.
these are my views, and NOT the corps(which must remain neutral at these times).
im sure i will b proven correct in the next few days/weeks.
d solo.
Darth,
Aren't you calling the kettle Black? I don't see anyone in FE or CA camping gates in Empire except Celestial Apocs. Keep telling yourself your not a pirate, someday it may sink in.
Crice
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Lord Guerdo
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:58:00 -
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how paranoid do you sound heh
I mean c'mon, just think about it. What would make more sense then the 3 most hated alliances teaming up to lay waste to the people they all hate anyways? CA is already allied with PA, and TPS lies between the two alliances. Natural allies to be sure. But it's not just that, all but PA (and even some of them) have adopted a "stfu and die, or come and fight us, we don't give a **** what you think or do" philosophy, as well as a PvP Kill everyone not friend kind of mentality. These are the people in eve that kill or convert, the ones dedicated to the death of others, because history, circumstance, and the rest of eve have driven then to do so (except TPS, who are just cool ass pirates ). |

sutty
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Posted - 2004.02.18 16:58:00 -
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crice, darths corp are one of the most respect pirating hunting corps in game are you on smack or somthing ?
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Maud Dib
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Posted - 2004.02.18 17:07:00 -
[58]
Quote: Hey guys, just wanted to say thanks fo all the attention=) Gives me something to read while on campus. Whatever happens it will be interesting. Just so you know I have fought over venal quite enough, (fought for TTi, than M3G4, than Biomass, than EPA.) so I can almost assure you I'm pretty bored of that.
2003Cobra

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Omniwar
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:13:00 -
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Quote: ok ill just explain a few things for those who haven't fought whole alliances alone.
1.) your always out numbered 2.) when they form a blob of 70 and your 15-20 you dont engage its simple logic really.
so this is why darth when you come with your mass force you find no evol, infact your wasting your time. we aint gonna fight 4-1 odds and lose loads of ships when we can happly roam around venal ganking many ships.
Sutty peaple know this deep inside but they fail to comprehand it, us who attack alliances are called cowards if we dont fight against such odds that are sometimes ten times our force but the alliance thinks its ok not to fight if they have only twice our numbers, go figure. Spawn of the Devil
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Teelmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:23:00 -
[60]
Yeah why the hell would anyone fight 4:1 odds when there is plenty of other stuff to do while stupid nubs sit around in their huge fleets jerking it to their drones and empty space. It has always perplexed me. The point is to kill the enemy, not let him laugh at your asses and kill a few jumps away. Stupid people sometimes......
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:28:00 -
[61]
Quote: Yeah why the hell would anyone fight 4:1 odds when there is plenty of other stuff to do while stupid nubs sit around in their huge fleets jerking it to their drones and empty space. It has always perplexed me. The point is to kill the enemy, not let him laugh at your asses and kill a few jumps away. Stupid people sometimes......
Agree, for your kind of warfare guerilla tactics is the only way (and more now for alliances due to the lagg).
I must however say that big battles would be really great to see when two similar sized forces meet up, just for the visual pleasure.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:32:00 -
[62]
Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:53:00 -
[63]
Quote: Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
Agree here too. There is a huge difference between m0o and Evol.
Evol brags about their kills when they have had superior forces (important to know is that have not been alone, but had other corps joining them in the cases I am referring to) and the other side have been forced to retreat.
M0o is simply stating the facts and I have yet to see m0o denying a loss of a ship (I might be wrong though).
*flame retardant suit on*
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:55:00 -
[64]
Quote: Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
Your obsession with us is unbecoming. CA has never kept us from doing what we wanted. CA has to date, only ONE time ever inflicted more losses in a battle then Evol has on CA. YOU sir, are little more then a trolling muppet, that, to be frank, even your own alliance is embarrased of.
Hush. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:57:00 -
[65]
Quote: Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
Fabricating facts as usual, Iluyen?
We fought you for during several extended engagements in Curse; for a week in E02-IK you had numbers between 2 and 3:1 in your favor, yet we continued to engage your forces. You know this, we know this.
Don't you feel embarrassed when you continue to spout 'facts' that you know to be untrue?

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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.18 18:57:00 -
[66]
Quote:
Quote: Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
Agree here too. There is a huge difference between m0o and Evol.
Evol brags about their kills when they have had superior forces (important to know is that have not been alone, but had other corps joining them in the cases I am referring to) and the other side have been forced to retreat.
M0o is simply stating the facts and I have yet to see m0o denying a loss of a ship (I might be wrong though).
*flame retardant suit on*
Can u CA guys stick ur noses any deeper into m0o's.... nm.
Post with your main or go away.
Most people who have issues with how we fight are not people who fight us very often.  Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:00:00 -
[67]
Quote:
Quote: Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
Fabricating facts as usual, Iluyen?
We fought you for during several extended engagements in Curse; for a week in E02-IK you had numbers between 2 and 3:1 in your favor, yet we continued to engage your forces. You know this, we know this.
Don't you feel embarrassed when you continue to spout 'facts' that you know to be untrue?

I'm sorry but warping in at 150km then warping out again is not "engaging". I love how you fidget with numbers to not counting members FA corps to your gang and instead adding them to the CA forces to say we were outnumbered 3 to 1 when it was actually 1vs1. It doesnt matter more and more people know how lame you guys really are, now PA knows as well. Keep hiding behind "tactics" cowards.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:04:00 -
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Quote:
Quote:
Quote: Omniwar, noone is asking evol to fight even 2 to 1 odds, unfortunately they run to safespots when they haven't got 2 to 1 odds. There is a world of difference between what mOo does and what the wannabes from EVOL do.
Agree here too. There is a huge difference between m0o and Evol.
Evol brags about their kills when they have had superior forces (important to know is that have not been alone, but had other corps joining them in the cases I am referring to) and the other side have been forced to retreat.
M0o is simply stating the facts and I have yet to see m0o denying a loss of a ship (I might be wrong though).
*flame retardant suit on*
Can u CA guys stick ur noses any deeper into m0o's.... nm.
Post with your main or go away.
Most people who have issues with how we fight are not people who fight us very often. 
I was just waiting how long it would take to see you having your tantrum  
Have fun fighting, but don't think for a second that we are believing your fighting stats as now both PA and CA have seen how you tries to twist your numbers.
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Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:06:00 -
[69]
Funny, we must have thought the same thing, what a coincidentą  |

Estarriol
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:24:00 -
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Quote: I'm sorry but warping in at 150km then warping out again is not "engaging".
We ganked your "Dark Lord" from something closer to 15 km... Any thoughts on this discrepancy between what happened and what you are saying?
Quote: I love how you fidget with numbers to not counting members FA corps to your gang and instead adding them to the CA forces to say we were outnumbered 3 to 1 when it was actually 1vs1.
FA corps were not active there for much more than a day or two. I am comparing Local count to the members of our gang, on days that SA/FA were not engaging. We did not stop engaging when they left.
Quote: It doesnt matter more and more people know how lame you guys really are, now PA knows as well. Keep hiding behind "tactics" cowards.
LOL! Nice trolling, btw.
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:30:00 -
[71]
Quote:
I was just waiting how long it would take to see you having your tantrum  
Have fun fighting, but don't think for a second that we are believing your fighting stats as now both PA and CA have seen how you tries to twist your numbers.
Everytime I call you out for being a useless alt, posting outright lies it is a tantrum? Um yeah. OK.
As for our fighting stats... you know, I really don't know what to tell ya. Do you want to come to an empire station and have me put corpses in a trade window for you?
comments removed by Eris Discordia
BTW... ummm why is it illuyen and you post in every damn topic something about evol this... evol that.... sheesh. You're worse then raynor complaining about missiles for petes sake.
You guys really need to get over your obsession with us. We musta turned your applications down? I mean, what IS it with you guys?
This thread is a perfect example. PA CA talking bout stuff, and yall start draggin us into it.
Get over us plz.
Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:34:00 -
[72]
"We ganked your "Dark Lord" from something closer to 15 km... Any thoughts on this discrepancy between what happened and what you are saying?"
Wooohooo evol ganked a ship, stop the presses.
And there were doped players there all week in the same safespot.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:36:00 -
[73]
I think CA throw "safespot" around more than their alt corps. do war declarations.

LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:40:00 -
[74]
jesus.
Is forum posting the 'new' fighting, or what?
Get back out in your ships, and shoot at ****.
really. what is the universe coming to? .
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Dust Puppy
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:40:00 -
[75]
Quote: You're worse then raynor complaining about missiles for petes sake.
LMAO you forgot about caldari BS in general.
But you are right this thread has got a little sidetracked from the original discussion and turned into some EVOL bashing. __________ Capacitor research |

Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:41:00 -
[76]
Quote: jesus.
Is forum posting the 'new' fighting, or what?
Get back out in your ships, and shoot at ****.
really. what is the universe coming to?
It's coming to a safespot near you...........
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |

Lightor
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:46:00 -
[77]
Quote:
Quote:
I was just waiting how long it would take to see you having your tantrum  
Have fun fighting, but don't think for a second that we are believing your fighting stats as now both PA and CA have seen how you tries to twist your numbers.
Everytime I call you out for being a useless alt, posting outright lies it is a tantrum? Um yeah. OK.
As for our fighting stats... you know, I really don't know what to tell ya. Do you want to come to an empire station and have me put corpses in a trade window for you?
Those would no doubt be haxxored anyway with our 1337 gm powahz right?
No amount of proof would make you admit the truth so it doesn't really matter now does it.
BTW... ummm why is it illuyen and you post in every damn topic something about evol this... evol that.... sheesh. You're worse then raynor complaining about missiles for petes sake.
You guys really need to get over your obsession with us. We musta turned your applications down? I mean, what IS it with you guys?
This thread is a perfect example. PA CA talking bout stuff, and yall start draggin us into it.
Get over us plz.
  , just funny to see how annoyed and defending you get 
I think most people that read your bull$hit in the forums knows that you make up things left right and center. Your credibility is close to none anyway.
It's no coincident that both CA and PA are accusing you of faking your stats and refuse to admit to any losses. You honestly think people will believe you go into battle with less forces than the opponent and comes out without losing any ships but the other guys get hammered (at the same time as they claim to have taken out x amount of ships)?.
Say what you want, not that anyone care anymore.
And as for me posting with an alt you don't even know which alliance I work for (if any at all), I just donĘt want to drag my corp into the discussion.
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Iluyen
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Posted - 2004.02.18 19:55:00 -
[78]
You guys really need to get over your obsession with us. We musta turned your applications down? I mean, what IS it with you guys?
/cry I never applied to EVOL and I want a GM to come here and confirm this right now.
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M Hoshi
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Posted - 2004.02.18 20:26:00 -
[79]
Quote:
It's no coincident that both CA and PA are accusing you of faking your stats and refuse to admit to any losses. You honestly think people will believe you go into battle with less forces than the opponent and comes out without losing any ships but the other guys get hammered (at the same time as they claim to have taken out x amount of ships)?.
On the contary, If you feel inclined, you'll find in various other threads that I am happy to confirm (and have done on *numerous* threads) any Evolution losses that are performed in battle circumstances, people just need to ask instead of smacktalking.
Re believing we go into battle with lesser numbers and still win? Well Duh, this is a game of skill and tactical abilities, its not simply he with the biggest fleet of ships wins.
Yes Evolution does loose ships in our campaigns, No we do not loose more than the enemy, If we did - why would we continue fighting?
The kills we perform on operations are logged into a 'killboard', if you believe any of our statistics are incorrect, or believe we have listed a kill that is wrong, again contact us and ask for more details.
Quote:
Say what you want, not that anyone care anymore.
Ah sir, but you obviously do, else you wouldn't keep dragging us into this.
Now please, If you want to bash Evolution, ask for our losses, whatever - create a new thread and do it and stop hijacking other threads and turning them into anti-evol ones.
-- "We can smell the sea"
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Admiral IceBlock
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Posted - 2004.02.18 20:55:00 -
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Edited by: Admiral IceBlock on 18/02/2004 20:55:45 i just have too...
"We brake for nobody"
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ProphetGuru
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Posted - 2004.02.18 21:06:00 -
[81]
Quote:
  , just funny to see how annoyed and defending you get 
Don't mistake me correcting your obvious lack of knowledge to be annoyance. It is not.
It IS a game after all. I'm pretty much happy as long as I have something to shoot at. Evolution..... Just when you thought you were winning.
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PIraten
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Posted - 2004.02.18 22:27:00 -
[82]
Evol this evol that... tyerd of every one complaining about the tactis they use... let them do there thing and i willl do my thing and that is 2 try and kill em al....
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:33:00 -
[83]
Please keep further comments on this thread on-topic.
Thank you 
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |

Chelsea rorec
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Posted - 2004.02.18 23:43:00 -
[84]
i would like to point out that afew weeks ago FE came to the PA asking to join forces to attack the CA and now all of a sudden they are joining CA..makes you wonder what they have in store.
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Triniton
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Posted - 2004.02.19 02:24:00 -
[85]
Alliances... sigh 
ZOMBIE PRUNES! |

Javi
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Posted - 2004.02.19 02:46:00 -
[86]
i still think eris discordia is a hottie 
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"well..."
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PAPA
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Posted - 2004.02.19 03:08:00 -
[87]
Chelsea wot a load of crap,is that the best you could come up with? o dear wot a shame if FE was going after anyone do you think we would ask pa for help grow up ask your mum 2 look at post first so u dont make a fool of urself again 
no really that the lamest thing ever said on the forum and that takes some doing!
PA are and never have bin on good with most of FE so why out of all the peeps we know why would we ask them ?
you have my vote 4 fool of the month
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Darkrydar
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Posted - 2004.02.19 03:11:00 -
[88]
Quote:
/cry I never applied to EVOL and I want a GM to come here and confirm this right now.
Is Polaris close enough? Unfortunatly he didnt answer you.
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Artegg
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Posted - 2004.02.19 04:28:00 -
[89]
Quote: I would like to know why tank CEO logs on and off so much !!!!
This is what i have heard he logs off to get the loot from his kills by using an alt
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CubePusher
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Posted - 2004.02.19 04:38:00 -
[90]
Edited by: CubePusher on 19/02/2004 04:39:47
Quote: PA are and never have bin on good with most of FE so why out of all the peeps we know why would we ask them ?
you have my vote 4 fool of the month
Why does everyone feel the need to butcher the english language lately? I normally wouldnĘt give a sh!t but "bin" instead of "been"......come on man thatĘs just too lazy.
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Gyrn Fzirth
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Posted - 2004.03.01 23:39:00 -
[91]
Darthy the Oracle 
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=63017 =============== Killboard: http://www.celeskills.com
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Stoop
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Posted - 2004.03.01 23:48:00 -
[92]
is right.
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2004.03.01 23:56:00 -
[93]
Please dont bump old threads.
Please continue the discussion about darth being an oracle, in the link given above.
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
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