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MushroomsrUs Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:00:00 - [31] Edited by: MushroomsrUs on 30/09/2007 17:00:45
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:01:00 - [32] Originally by: marakor My point is that all these entities like razor/mm/iac and all the former d2/ascn members plus all the others i cannot be bothered to list and are in fact more anti-bob because of bob's successes and they are not what could be realy called pro-goon because goon have done nothing to earn there friendship apart from being a enemy of bob. Well yes that is the case with the northern alliances, as bob used to attack there before goons were even around, but ofcourse bob in the north was not a success because they were eventually removed and went off to make thier fortress in delve. The northern alliances at one point also had goon to -10. But when goons eventually got round to hanging around with RA diplomacy came into it and it was the decsion that goons would be napped and past put behind them. They werent as obnoxious as BoB so that was avialable to them. But yes, they definatly are more anti-bob than they are pro-goon, as if, if goons napped bob today, the northern alliances wouldnt do so aswell. Originally by: marakor The fact of the matter is that most of the hostile's beating on bob's door are at one time or another a entity that was beaten by bob even though these entities had greater numbers and now they are working together they are numerous enough to cause the currant problems bob is facing and of course the titan and pos nerf's allowing and encoraging more blob's. This is not true at all, since d2 etc and all then northern entities arent even involved in the war anymore. If you talking about IAC then thats not valid either as they had a campaign going against FIX before goons were really even involved in the south let alone fighting BoB. All hostilies against BOB practically stopped after MM/D2/IROn/MM pulled out of the south when MC were attacking the north. Goons then attacked omist and BoB could focus on that completely. But still lost out to RSF. But yeh, this was is far from decided, and very far from over. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:12:00 - [33] And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. I respect a lot of the guys in this war but i find nothing in goons attitude to the game or the forums that makes me feel anything but contempt.
Kirah Ovai Altcenaries	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:22:00 - [34] Originally by: Alex Hawke Originally by: Darko1107 Dont really see why everyone thinks Goons are so obnoxious. Have you looked at the forums lately? If you have not noticed, every other post is some goon guy making some obnoxious immature comment. Contrary to BOB, who're only posturing and gloating when things look good for them, the goons are posting the way they do in victory as in defeat. Sure when they lose you might see one or two more rabble rabble rabble threads then usual, but even those are more fun then BOB circlejerk threads will ever be.
dastommy79 Di-Tron Heavy Industries Atlas Alliance	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:32:00 - [35] When BOB finaly goes down, the majority of the eve community will be dancing like ewoks screaming fofofofofofo in NOL. The next day we will all wake up with a horrible hangover, look at our computer screens and think to ourselves "My god what have we done" It will be fun \o/ I driks alots
CrispyKritters Caldari GoonFleet	Posted - 2007.09.30 17:58:00 - [36] Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. I respect a lot of the guys in this war but i find nothing in goons attitude to the game or the forums that makes me feel anything but contempt. Since we mostly post with our mains and BoB mostly posts with alts, we're just silly clowns.
benzss The Knights Of Camelot Praesidium Libertatis	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:00:00 - [37] Originally by: Hellaciouss Originally by: Alex Hawke Originally by: Darko1107 Dont really see why everyone thinks Goons are so obnoxious. Have you looked at the forums lately? If you have not noticed, every other post is some goon guy making some obnoxious immature comment. Hmmm, I wonder what it looked like when BoB were fighting ASCN..hmmmm. Damn my short memory! goons exist to flame and they do it badly ever wonder why they post here and not on SA?
Jhyme Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:02:00 - [38] Edited by: Jhyme on 30/09/2007 18:03:29 The reason why it seems Goons are flaming the forums way worse than BoB is that most BoBs are on their alts making posts like these. The new strategy is to roll an alt, claim "neutrality" in the fight, and then make anti-goon posts (e.g. the op). I think most people can see that. A lot of goon posts are idiotic. The difference is that the goons themselves know that some of the goon posts are idiotic. We just play the game to have fun, and have high "tolerance" levels. Unlike BoB, Goons have the ability to ridicule themselves. In a diverse alliance of 5000 that is accepting of low sp characters and little kids alike with a culture of free speech, honestly what do you expect? I wouldn't be surprised if BoB developed a new metagaming tactic where they roll alts that make idiotic pro-goon posts to make goons look even worse. I wouldn't be surprised if they have a few spies in goonfleet acting like idiots to make goons look worse. It appears that's the most damaging thing they can do to goons at the moment. But really, goons don't care. If you don't like goonie posts on the forums, click off your browser, and alt-tab back into eve, and play the game. And please BoB, post with your mains. Regards, Jhyme
PSA1SWIPE Caldari Bladerunners	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:08:00 - [39] Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. I respect a lot of the guys in this war but i find nothing in goons attitude to the game or the forums that makes me feel anything but contempt. It annoyes me as well teh forum how it is etc esp with goonsnukin every thread , imiss teh times where you could also on these part of teh forums coudl read about stuff inempire or corporate stuff like back in teh day ..... You were around during ASCN you say , i was around when (pre-)BoB deserved its bad rep _______________________
Jhyme Amarr Igneus Auctorita GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:13:00 - [40] Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. I respect a lot of the guys in this war but i find nothing in goons attitude to the game or the forums that makes me feel anything but contempt. Also, go to the EvE general discussion and examine some of the just-as-pointless posts there. That's what eve looks like without goons and corp politics-- still just as pointless. Should I "feel nothing but contempt" for the masses of rabid untamed eve players?
DogTyred Tyrell Corp INTERDICTION	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:39:00 - [41] Originally by: Jhyme Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. I respect a lot of the guys in this war but i find nothing in goons attitude to the game or the forums that makes me feel anything but contempt. Also, go to the EvE general discussion and examine some of the just-as-pointless posts there. That's what eve looks like without goons and corp politics-- still just as pointless. Should I "feel nothing but contempt" for the masses of rabid untamed eve players? Yes
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:50:00 - [42] Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. Do you not remember that huge thread where BoB just took the **** out of ASCN and Cyvok even AFTER the war was over and ASCN disbanded? It was only 40 pages long so I imagine you could have missed it
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.09.30 18:59:00 - [43] Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. Do you not remember that huge thread where BoB just took the **** out of ASCN and Cyvok even AFTER the war was over and ASCN disbanded? It was only 40 pages long so I imagine you could have missed it 40 pages is better than 40 moronic threads on the same day. And yes im exagerating but look at this forum and its not like the war is even close to over.
Alias11 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 19:02:00 - [44] Originally by: marakor its not like the war is even close to over. That's the point, what the hell is the purpose in beating a dead horse? I mean we only talk trash to ex-LV when they show up and get bitter all over everything or make a thread about how much we suck.
marakor Gallente Anti Lag Forum Smackers	Posted - 2007.09.30 19:30:00 - [45] Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: marakor 40 pages is better than 40 moronic threads on the same day. And yes im exagerating but look at this forum and its not like the war is even close to over. That's the point, what the hell is the purpose in beating a dead horse? I mean we only talk trash to ex-LV when they show up and get bitter all over everything or make a thread about how much we suck. I hardly think these threads were started by ex-lv considering they are all anti-bob so i dont get your referance unless the original post was vblobbed out by all these crappy posts.
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.30 19:34:00 - [46] Originally by: marakor Originally by: Alias11 Originally by: marakor And after reading these threads do you still consider bob to be more obnoxious than goon cos i was around when bob killed ascn and others and they were not this bad even when they had won let alone well before it was over?. Do you not remember that huge thread where BoB just took the **** out of ASCN and Cyvok even AFTER the war was over and ASCN disbanded? It was only 40 pages long so I imagine you could have missed it 40 pages is better than 40 moronic threads on the same day. And yes im exagerating but look at this forum and its not like the war is even close to over. I dont understand this repeating comment of "its not like the war is even close to over", when no1 on coalition side is even saying it is. Plus, i dont why you would be using this to stick up for BoB when Sir Molle himself has classed alliances as "dead" even before the war has got underway. Goonswarm here apparently werent even allowed to exist in 0.0, however they are now taking BoB's own stations. Propaganda is very powerful, BoB know just how to use it, Goonswarm have a little learning to do, but thier own is working perfectly well at the moment. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Mortuus Minmatar Viper Squad Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.09.30 19:39:00 - [47] IRON complaining about another alliance being obnoxious? BoB/GOONS are pretty much the same as far as forums go, except the BoB guys are much more pleasant in game. And yea, I've fought BoB. I've fought IRON and the rest of the north as well. lol ex-Occassus Republica <3
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.30 19:55:00 - [48] Originally by: Mortuus IRON complaining about another alliance being obnoxious? BoB/GOONS are pretty much the same as far as forums go, except the BoB guys are much more pleasant in game. And yea, I've fought BoB. I've fought IRON and the rest of the north as well. lol Well done, allegations backed up by nothing. If you'd bothered to read im not complaining about any1 being obnoxius. Im merely commenting on how BoB are obnoxius, thus they are getting everything they deserve from Goonswarm. And we both know Ive been inactive pollically for over 2 years now, so lets just leave the comments insinuating i speak for the whole of iron at home. Care to take more notice next time, mmmk pumpkin? ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Carnmire Caldari Quantum Industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.09.30 20:13:00 - [49] Dont forget BoB's Developer-involvement scandal. And how CCP didnt do anything about it until AFTER it leaked to the public, or how the guy who discovered such wrong doing was banned becase he tapped some emails or whatever to get the info. That dude sould have been commended IMHO. BoB have used pretty much every dirty trick available, but as they say all fair in love and war, so chastising someone for their methods of war is just as ridiculous. I believe it was Lao Tzu who said: To win any conflict you must control the language Take an example from the real world guys, to win a war you must first win the hearts of the people. I dont know what life line BoB feeds its pets, but it kind of reminds me of WWII. The Third Reich started out strong, blitzing its way through Europe, it wasnt until they **ed the rest of the world off that people banded together to wipe them out. The tides are turning... ****************************************** "INVASION"? I prefer Target-Rich Environment Laughter is the sanctuary of the Soul!
Tetsujin GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 21:30:00 - [50] so did we figure out what the OP meant by "revolt"?
Kola XXX Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.30 22:06:00 - [51] propaganda is very powerful, BoB know just how to use it, Goonswarm have a little learning to do, but thier own is working perfectly well at the moment. you see, this is the thing..no it's not. Goons are just spamming the forum until it's useless for everyone else. Create 1 thread and make it 40 pages, all these goon posts are the same thing anyways. Only a nubly alliance would buy goon propaganda....and the alliance that was first to master it certainly wouldn't buy it. . ..so . .um . ..stop posting. . .or comparing it to bob vs. ascn cuz bob never spammed forums with thread after thread, alot in 1 thread...yeah, but everyone else can sll have their threads. .. Even with CAOD cleaner posts not regarding bob and goons get wiped back pages, not cool for guys involved in other conflicts in eve and such.
Aperion Madante GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 22:20:00 - [52] Originally by: Tetsujin so did we figure out what the OP meant by "revolt"? Maybe he means to stick a battery on their tongues again? That's pretty insidious.
Maximillian Bayonette Baleful Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.30 22:29:00 - [53] Originally by: Carnmire Dont forget BoB's Developer-involvement scandal. And how CCP didnt do anything about it until AFTER it leaked to the public, or how the guy who discovered such wrong doing was banned becase he tapped some emails or whatever to get the info. That dude sould have been commended IMHO. BoB have used pretty much every dirty trick available, but as they say all fair in love and war, so chastising someone for their methods of war is just as ridiculous. So, if BoB is so evil and was this bad or even badder back in the ASCN war (which by the way I might agree to), then why are the Goons smacking and spamming everyone else as well, even those not involved in the war? I mean, Rise has been getting a lot (a LOT) of smack from the Goons these past weeks, and it's not like they "have it coming to them since the ASCN war". Also, saying Ku******** "tapped some emails" is a bit of a downplay when describing the hacking of a website (which definately was eve-related, thus prompting CCP's action).
Darko1107 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2007.09.30 22:30:00 - [54] Originally by: Kola XXX propaganda is very powerful, BoB know just how to use it, Goonswarm have a little learning to do, but thier own is working perfectly well at the moment. you see, this is the thing..no it's not. Goons are just spamming the forum until it's useless for everyone else. Create 1 thread and make it 40 pages, all these goon posts are the same thing anyways. Only a nubly alliance would buy goon propaganda....and the alliance that was first to master it certainly wouldn't buy it. . ..so . .um . ..stop posting. . .or comparing it to bob vs. ascn cuz bob never spammed forums with thread after thread, alot in 1 thread...yeah, but everyone else can sll have their threads. .. Even with CAOD cleaner posts not regarding bob and goons get wiped back pages, not cool for guys involved in other conflicts in eve and such. You have about 10 "nubly" alliances working with you, when did i say goonswarm forum propaganda would only effect you? Oh so spamming 1 mammoth thread with multiple insults and arrogant posts is better than making multiple smaller threads? Seems the same thing to me. Oh and thx for the predicitable "stop posting" comment, but i think i'll pass. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
Kola XXX Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.09.30 22:41:00 - [55] "Oh so spamming 1 mammoth thread with multiple insults and arrogant posts is better than making multiple smaller threads? yes, a thread for a topic...sometimes 2 squirt out. . thats plenty
Cvuos GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.09.30 22:53:00 - [56] Sorry guys, but this is just the way things are. Goons suck at flying internet spaceships, but they suck at posting on forums much much more. You see goons are a lot like those artistic elephants. The smearings on the canvas look terrible, but in some way it's fascinating that a simple animal can choose to express itself in such a manner. You have to admire the effort.
Cmd Woodlouse moon7empler Ev0ke	Posted - 2007.09.30 23:03:00 - [57] Originally by: Kola XXX propaganda is very powerful, BoB know just how to use it, Goonswarm have a little learning to do, but thier own is working perfectly well at the moment. you see, this is the thing..no it's not. Goons are just spamming the forum until it's useless for everyone else. Create 1 thread and make it 40 pages, all these goon posts are the same thing anyways. Omg the short memories.... BoB was NOT ANYTHING different in the past - even i realized it now. Looking at the oldish dbp post where BoB shouted out loud that Goons wont ever be doing anything of significance anymore it is very clear to me on which my sympathy sides on - well lets not cal it sympathy - lets call it the lesser nuisance. Lets call it goons. Cmd Inactivelouse out
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.09.30 23:11:00 - [58] Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 30/09/2007 23:16:41 Edited by: Ezoran DuBlaidd on 30/09/2007 23:15:08 Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Carnmire Dont forget BoB's Developer-involvement scandal. And how CCP didnt do anything about it until AFTER it leaked to the public, or how the guy who discovered such wrong doing was banned becase he tapped some emails or whatever to get the info. That dude sould have been commended IMHO. BoB have used pretty much every dirty trick available, but as they say all fair in love and war, so chastising someone for their methods of war is just as ridiculous. So, if BoB is so evil and was this bad or even badder back in the ASCN war (which by the way I might agree to), then why are the Goons smacking and spamming everyone else as well, even those not involved in the war? I mean, Rise has been getting a lot (a LOT) of smack from the Goons these past weeks, and it's not like they "have it coming to them since the ASCN war". Also, saying Ku****** "tapped some emails" is a bit of a downplay when describing the hacking of a website (which definately was eve-related, thus prompting CCP's action). i can put this url on toilet paper and blow my nose on it, then throw it away. that's eve related and not a damned person at ccp's business. ccp has no *** business concerning themselves with actions that take place on boards that are not OWNED by them, no legal *** right in any *** country. feel free to quote some LAWS in COUNTRIES that prove me wrong. unless, ccp is in bed with bob. real good friends with bob. or owns bob's *** forums. how god damned hard is that to comprehend. jesus ***** christ. i take that back, let me reword it with really tiny words -- what property of ccp did k hack? failing to produce the property, your logic is totally and completely flawed. unless you're making cheating/favoritism accusations. which you should not be doing. because that's wrong. mmmkay? a final edit - IF laws were broken - the agencies endowed with the legal right of enforcing said laws, should be advised. otherwise... see the previous sentences.
Maximillian Bayonette Baleful Enterprises	Posted - 2007.09.30 23:16:00 - [59] Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd i can put this url on toilet paper and blow my nose on it, then throw it away. that's eve related and not a damned person at ccp's business. ccp has no ***** business concerning themselves with actions that take place on boards that are not OWNED by them, no legal *** right in any *** country. feel free to quote some LAWS in COUNTRIES that prove me wrong. unless, ccp is in bed with bob. real good friends with bob. or owns bob's *** forums. how god damned hard is that to comprehend. jesus ***** christ. I doubt either you or me have the legal background to really put this case to the test, but given the fact that the guy comitted a RL crime over a videogame, I think it's pretty fair to ban him from the video game.
Ezoran DuBlaidd Rivers Enterprises Power Corrupts Industry's	Posted - 2007.09.30 23:20:00 - [60] Originally by: Maximillian Bayonette Originally by: Ezoran DuBlaidd i can put this url on toilet paper and blow my nose on it, then throw it away. that's eve related and not a damned person at ccp's business. ccp has no ***** business concerning themselves with actions that take place on boards that are not OWNED by them, no legal *** right in any *** country. feel free to quote some LAWS in COUNTRIES that prove me wrong. unless, ccp is in bed with bob. real good friends with bob. or owns bob's *** forums. how god damned hard is that to comprehend. jesus *** christ. I doubt either you or me have the legal background to really put this case to the test, but given the fact that the guy comitted a RL crime over a videogame, I think it's pretty fair to ban him from the video game. no. it's FAIR to put him in prison or fine him, whatever the LEGAL thing to do would be in that specific case. if he did something to a property owned by ccp, then by all means, ccp should ban him so that he can't hurt THEIR property again. if it wasn't THEIR PROPERTY, they have no mother ***** business sticking their nose into the activity. that is why we have laws and law enforcement agencies. if a crime had ACTUALLY been committed, then law enforcement would have done something, if a crime had NOT been committed, then why would people perjure themselves "over a game". if someone runs a stop light, i sure as hell don't chase them down and make a citizen's arrest. if a cop is sitting at the light i'm at, and our windows are down, i'd probably be like "wtf, his time is more important than ours?" and the policeman could pursue him.

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