Except you cant compare a high tech, luxury machine to a Harley. Because there is no such thing as a high-tech, ultra luxury HD.

The closest thing is a v-rod and those are still living in the early 90s.

So that leaves me to believe that the only reason people buy them is because they are expensive and makes them feel superior.

Why? Why must you ride such abhorrent death machines?

I'd sooner ride a bison bare-back then a two-wheeled vehicle that goes highway speeds....

Why? Why must you ride such abhorrent death machines?

I'd sooner ride a bison bare-back then a two-wheeled vehicle that goes highway speeds....

That sounds awesome. wtb bison

death machine is a little extreme though, provided you're not driving like a dumbass going 140mph while weaving through traffic. I wear a helmet and a leather jacket and with responsible driving I'm mostly looking at probably being crippled in which case I'd play Eve a lot more

Coward

Indeed, I guess. But let me tell a short story about motorcycles.

I was in the left lane. Motorcycle was behind me. Motorcycle decided to go into right lane. I needed to go into right lane. Guy got in my blind spot. I nearly hit him.

Apparently he was some old biker gang type guy who wanted to kick my ass afterwards, even though it's not like I could see him.

After stuff like that, I'd just rather have my car, but to each his own.

Indeed, I guess. But let me tell a short story about motorcycles.

I was in the left lane. Motorcycle was behind me. Motorcycle decided to go into right lane. I needed to go into right lane. Guy got in my blind spot. I nearly hit him.

Apparently he was some old biker gang type guy who wanted to kick my ass afterwards, even though it's not like I could see him.

After stuff like that, I'd just rather have my car, but to each his own.

Drivers who couldn't be ass'd to check their rear view mirrors were usually my only threat while on the bike. Sadly I have the same issue when driving my Disco so you can't tell me it's a blind spot issue, rather than a issue with the blind. The benefit from this is that I have learned to be much more aware of my own surroundings.

Also a bonus when on a bike is that you have a lot more room to maneuver than you do in a vehicle, plus they are quite a bit more responsive than say, an 6000 lb behemoth.

Also I love the massively open field of view

It's the "twist, see ya!" feeling.
Cruiser riders never get the learn the joy of leaning your ass into a corner and dragging knee.

Yeah I love to see knee pizza from grand prix wannabe's. But honestly, cruisers have more lean than you think, and many people can handle them like a boss.

Right, because every RUB on a shiny chromed Harley has taken the necessary classes to be able to ride like those moto cops. But as soon as you mention knee down all the sportbike riders are wannabes?
Go to your local biker bar and see how many of those guys can do the stunts those professional motocops can do.

Right, because every RUB on a shiny chromed Harley has taken the necessary classes to be able to ride like those moto cops. But as soon as you mention knee down all the sportbike riders are wannabes?
Go to your local biker bar and see how many of those guys can do the stunts those professional motocops can do.

Touchy much? I didn't say that every sportbike rider is a wannabe. I also didn't say that every Harley rider is able to ride like that cop. You sure are sensitive, princess.

But really, I love to see knee pizza when the wannabe's **** it up. I also enjoy watching video's of hand braking faceplants into pavement and the back of cars, though the best videos are them hitting each other. Then there is the standing on the seat and the anticipation and suspense is staggering.

I detect a certain hostility towards sportbikers but anyway...squids will be squids? Doing wheelies in sneakers, shorts and no helmet has its drawbacks. If they want to put the knee down too...more power to them.
Plenty of idiots out there on cruisers too. Oh right...mad skills on this rider. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8fkd1eTQ7U He should be a motocop.

Good lord did this ever turn into a sensitive matter. I never said I hated sportbikers. Never even implied it. My exact words was that I enjoy watching riders get knee pizza from their **** ups. And people do **** up. But you're all like 'haters be hatin when they see me rollin' and post a video of the forest eating a guy.

I mean wow. Try to calm down before your mascara runs. But if you really want to get into youtube battles I can assure you I will end up with the better quality carnage.

ps: I never mentioned what kind of rider I am.

Wow...you're that easily rattled?
I'm not hatin', but honestly you claim that many riders can handle their cruisers like champs and post a video of a professional motocop as proof? Should motoGP vids be used to claim that most sportbike riders can handle their bikes like champs? Heck no, as shown by videos both you and I posted.

Does this mean you can't maintain a mental map of vehicles around you? You can't remember that some biker was somewhere behind you and now you can't see him so he must have magically vanished into thin air instead of still being somewhere around you where you couldn't see? Strange...I alone must possess this awesome skill.
I'm not justifying his actions, riding in someones blind spot is stupidbut it could have been a car just as well and you'd not have seen it.

Projecting much? I was implying personal choice

Also you clearly have never ridden a Harley Electra Glide... they start at $30,000 and it feels like you're riding on a cloud

But, stick one of them on a sport bike (if they have never ridden one before) and suddenly he/she is pretty average at best.

Regardless, this is about riding. Not who's bike is better.

Indeed, I guess. But let me tell a short story about motorcycles.

I was in the left lane. Motorcycle was behind me. Motorcycle decided to go into right lane. I needed to go into right lane. Guy got in my blind spot. I nearly hit him.

Apparently he was some old biker gang type guy who wanted to kick my ass afterwards, even though it's not like I could see him.

After stuff like that, I'd just rather have my car, but to each his own.

Actually the officers in my area ride the BMW R 1200's. They're like traffic ninja's, one second you don't see em, the next they're on your bumper. I actually watched an officer once use cars for cover as he snuck up on a car ahead of me.
I was discussing the bike with a couple of officers and one told me that you have to be careful with the throttle on these because the bike really wants to go forward fast.



But thank you for posting this. Around where I live if your even on a bike it s like being in a special club, regardless if its a 1200cc or a 250cc. In 2 months I'll start seeing the groups on the highway again traveling the back country and many times they are a mix of both types of bikes. Many times in town I've had groups add me in the fold as we're going down the road.

You do know that your head can actually rotate around your neck so you can check your blind spot right?

Even in a 14 thousand pound box van I don't have any trouble checking my blind spot. I have never even come close to hitting a motorcyclist who wasn't otherwise riding like a giant *******.

Regardless of where the bike was, or how far in your blindspot he may have been, that was 100% your own fault for not checking said bind spot. The average biker is far more aware and safe on the road than the average cager.


You have eyes. Use them. A motorcycle is no harder to see than a smart car, but I don't see people crying about how they are "invisible" on the roads.

Revenge will be mine....

Edit: In fact if you do watch the video you posted closely (as well as any other police obstacle course video) you'll notice that cops on those bikes counterlean. The bike is pushed down, body stays upright above the bike. This may be an appropriate technique for a cruiser (don't ride one...but this is in fact what they teach in the MSF for new riders) but on a sportbike this forces higher lean angle on the bike. Somewhat dangerous...especially when going through corners fast.

If you try to knee drag at 5 mph you are going to wind up with a bike on top of you.