Why anyone would give up a good bike for a crotch rocket is beyond me. ...

Why anyone would give up a good bike for a crotch rocket is beyond me. Guess I've just been spoiled ever since I went looking for my first bike and the guy that sold me the Harley said "Get on and fire it up"

Like I wasn't going to be a Harley rider forever at that point.... http://youtu.be/etbxRm17s8s (mine has forward controls, I hate the curvy handles and the ones that look like I'm hanging off a crossbeam)

HAha, I know what you mean, they are two completely different lifestyles:)

If I could afford to have both I would have kept it, the Intruder was super reliable, never failed me. And on cold mountain rides I could reach down and heat up my gloves on the big V engine block while moving, probably not a safe thing to do but it would be worse to lose feeling in my hands.

Low and slow cruising was awesome, and the Intruder looks so much like a Harley that Hog riders would wave every time:)

But then there was this whole other world, like overtaking a group of Ninjas on the freeway, and all the helmets look back like they can't believe something is moving faster than they are haha:) Moments like that are priceless. (Not to knock my ZX bretheren)

The Busa is such a beast of technology and engine, It really is like some kind of rocket . . . and I do seem to have a certain penchant for space ships. . .

Well, to be fair going faster than them is easy to do if they are doing less than maximum lol. And the busa is a rattletrap. One of the most uncomfortable bikes I have ever ridden. They shake like hardleys... Full of vibration and generally just feel cheap.

Ive ridden two of them.

If you want the fastest bike on the planet, the busa is not what you buy anymore. The ZX-14 is. Stock vs stock the 14 wins (not by much mind you) but it rides almost as smooth as a GL1800.

Riding is riding. I just hate it when people shove their busa down my throat like they are some magical creation. By all accounts the 14 is a better bike.

Well, to be fair going faster than them is easy to do if they are doing less than maximum lol. And the busa is a rattletrap. One of the most uncomfortable bikes I have ever ridden. They shake like hardleys... Full of vibration and generally just feel cheap.

I rode my harley for years, but then tried my buds sport bike one day. making twice my horsepower at less than half the weight of my harley, it was a dream to scoot around town.

I have been riding sport bikes now for years and I find I have been in situations where I would have been hosed on a harley simply for the fact that my hog was a terribly clumsy bike around the city. My cbr600rr has a very steep head angle and really short wheel base. That, plus how light it is, I can make very quick movement to avoid situations that I simply was unable to on my hog.

Also, I never really bought into the "look at how much of a wanne-be bad boy I pretend to be" on a harley look. I never wore chaps, had leather frillies dangling on my leather jacket either

By design, I have always striven to dislike and avoid cliques. I never liked hanging out with the harley crowd simply because they are mostly of the mid-life crisis type with nothing much to discuss tbh. Maybe when I reach that age, I will buy a set of chaps and join them at the blue oyster bar.

p.s. I will say, I used to easily do 1000mi rides on my harley without too much discomfort, but now doing 500 miles on my sport bike feels like I have been sawed on half and f$#ked in the ear by everyone in my zip code afterward.

Well mine runs and rides smooth as silk, and I find incredibly controllable.

And yes, we were all very very over the speed limit, and I am never going to do that again ha:)

And yes ZX's are fantastic. And if you re-read, I wasn't trying to shove it down your throat, I was celebrating the fun of riding, and of course there is some sort of historical rivalry between GXR and ZX in motorcycle magazines, but I didn't mean to offend.

I think all motorcycling is great and support the sport. Doesn't matter what you ride.

2008 GSXR-750

Yoshi r-55 zorst
Tail tidy
Pazzo levers.

Personally i don't get the love of harleys. If that kinda riding style seems pretty close to tthis in terms of excitement.

Same reason someone buys this instead of this

I have a 94/95 Kawasaki ninja ZX11. The longest trip I've made was 480 km, ~295 miles, from my house in S+úo Paulo no my dad's, in Rio de Janeiro. It's a great bike, but the previous owner didn't took great care of her, so now I'm footing the repair bill for some **** that he let me as a "gift". Had a broken clutch while riding 2 weeks ago, broken as in totally destroyed clutch. She is still at the mechanic, I hope I get her back next week...

A clutch is really not that hard to do.

If it takes them more than a few hours to do a clutch, and they charge you for it, they are robbing you. The shop I bought my clutch from did the job in an hour. I called them up and they said it was going in for the clutch. Got on my old bike (trade in) and by the time I got there it was done.

If you are interested in saving some cash and willing to do a little work, find a manual for your bike.

Will do, tks for the tip!

Just registered there. My nick is Katabrok.

Except you cant compare a high tech, luxury machine to a Harley. Because there is no such thing as a high-tech, ultra luxury HD.

The closest thing is a v-rod and those are still living in the early 90s.

So that leaves me to believe that the only reason people buy them is because they are expensive and makes them feel superior.

Why? Why must you ride such abhorrent death machines?

I'd sooner ride a bison bare-back then a two-wheeled vehicle that goes highway speeds....

Why? Why must you ride such abhorrent death machines?

I'd sooner ride a bison bare-back then a two-wheeled vehicle that goes highway speeds....

That sounds awesome. wtb bison

death machine is a little extreme though, provided you're not driving like a dumbass going 140mph while weaving through traffic. I wear a helmet and a leather jacket and with responsible driving I'm mostly looking at probably being crippled in which case I'd play Eve a lot more

Coward

Indeed, I guess. But let me tell a short story about motorcycles.

I was in the left lane. Motorcycle was behind me. Motorcycle decided to go into right lane. I needed to go into right lane. Guy got in my blind spot. I nearly hit him.

Apparently he was some old biker gang type guy who wanted to kick my ass afterwards, even though it's not like I could see him.

After stuff like that, I'd just rather have my car, but to each his own.

Indeed, I guess. But let me tell a short story about motorcycles.

I was in the left lane. Motorcycle was behind me. Motorcycle decided to go into right lane. I needed to go into right lane. Guy got in my blind spot. I nearly hit him.

Apparently he was some old biker gang type guy who wanted to kick my ass afterwards, even though it's not like I could see him.

After stuff like that, I'd just rather have my car, but to each his own.

Drivers who couldn't be ass'd to check their rear view mirrors were usually my only threat while on the bike. Sadly I have the same issue when driving my Disco so you can't tell me it's a blind spot issue, rather than a issue with the blind. The benefit from this is that I have learned to be much more aware of my own surroundings.

Also a bonus when on a bike is that you have a lot more room to maneuver than you do in a vehicle, plus they are quite a bit more responsive than say, an 6000 lb behemoth.

Also I love the massively open field of view

It's the "twist, see ya!" feeling.
Cruiser riders never get the learn the joy of leaning your ass into a corner and dragging knee.

Yeah I love to see knee pizza from grand prix wannabe's. But honestly, cruisers have more lean than you think, and many people can handle them like a boss.

Right, because every RUB on a shiny chromed Harley has taken the necessary classes to be able to ride like those moto cops. But as soon as you mention knee down all the sportbike riders are wannabes?
Go to your local biker bar and see how many of those guys can do the stunts those professional motocops can do.

Right, because every RUB on a shiny chromed Harley has taken the necessary classes to be able to ride like those moto cops. But as soon as you mention knee down all the sportbike riders are wannabes?
Go to your local biker bar and see how many of those guys can do the stunts those professional motocops can do.

Touchy much? I didn't say that every sportbike rider is a wannabe. I also didn't say that every Harley rider is able to ride like that cop. You sure are sensitive, princess.

But really, I love to see knee pizza when the wannabe's **** it up. I also enjoy watching video's of hand braking faceplants into pavement and the back of cars, though the best videos are them hitting each other. Then there is the standing on the seat and the anticipation and suspense is staggering.

I detect a certain hostility towards sportbikers but anyway...squids will be squids? Doing wheelies in sneakers, shorts and no helmet has its drawbacks. If they want to put the knee down too...more power to them.
Plenty of idiots out there on cruisers too. Oh right...mad skills on this rider. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8fkd1eTQ7U He should be a motocop.

Good lord did this ever turn into a sensitive matter. I never said I hated sportbikers. Never even implied it. My exact words was that I enjoy watching riders get knee pizza from their **** ups. And people do **** up. But you're all like 'haters be hatin when they see me rollin' and post a video of the forest eating a guy.

I mean wow. Try to calm down before your mascara runs. But if you really want to get into youtube battles I can assure you I will end up with the better quality carnage.

ps: I never mentioned what kind of rider I am.

Wow...you're that easily rattled?
I'm not hatin', but honestly you claim that many riders can handle their cruisers like champs and post a video of a professional motocop as proof? Should motoGP vids be used to claim that most sportbike riders can handle their bikes like champs? Heck no, as shown by videos both you and I posted.

Does this mean you can't maintain a mental map of vehicles around you? You can't remember that some biker was somewhere behind you and now you can't see him so he must have magically vanished into thin air instead of still being somewhere around you where you couldn't see? Strange...I alone must possess this awesome skill.
I'm not justifying his actions, riding in someones blind spot is stupidbut it could have been a car just as well and you'd not have seen it.

Projecting much? I was implying personal choice

Also you clearly have never ridden a Harley Electra Glide... they start at $30,000 and it feels like you're riding on a cloud

But, stick one of them on a sport bike (if they have never ridden one before) and suddenly he/she is pretty average at best.

Regardless, this is about riding. Not who's bike is better.

Indeed, I guess. But let me tell a short story about motorcycles.

I was in the left lane. Motorcycle was behind me. Motorcycle decided to go into right lane. I needed to go into right lane. Guy got in my blind spot. I nearly hit him.

Apparently he was some old biker gang type guy who wanted to kick my ass afterwards, even though it's not like I could see him.

After stuff like that, I'd just rather have my car, but to each his own.

Actually the officers in my area ride the BMW R 1200's. They're like traffic ninja's, one second you don't see em, the next they're on your bumper. I actually watched an officer once use cars for cover as he snuck up on a car ahead of me.
I was discussing the bike with a couple of officers and one told me that you have to be careful with the throttle on these because the bike really wants to go forward fast.



But thank you for posting this. Around where I live if your even on a bike it s like being in a special club, regardless if its a 1200cc or a 250cc. In 2 months I'll start seeing the groups on the highway again traveling the back country and many times they are a mix of both types of bikes. Many times in town I've had groups add me in the fold as we're going down the road.

You do know that your head can actually rotate around your neck so you can check your blind spot right?

Even in a 14 thousand pound box van I don't have any trouble checking my blind spot. I have never even come close to hitting a motorcyclist who wasn't otherwise riding like a giant *******.

Regardless of where the bike was, or how far in your blindspot he may have been, that was 100% your own fault for not checking said bind spot. The average biker is far more aware and safe on the road than the average cager.


You have eyes. Use them. A motorcycle is no harder to see than a smart car, but I don't see people crying about how they are "invisible" on the roads.

Revenge will be mine....

Edit: In fact if you do watch the video you posted closely (as well as any other police obstacle course video) you'll notice that cops on those bikes counterlean. The bike is pushed down, body stays upright above the bike. This may be an appropriate technique for a cruiser (don't ride one...but this is in fact what they teach in the MSF for new riders) but on a sportbike this forces higher lean angle on the bike. Somewhat dangerous...especially when going through corners fast.

If you try to knee drag at 5 mph you are going to wind up with a bike on top of you.

Look, I understand you want to be special and feel like you are a part of some elite society, but ninja's aren't that difficult to learn. I went from a little Honda to a Kawasaki and the difference was....I leaned forward 45 deg. ooh. aah. My god, you act like its near impossible to learn how to drive something different than what you originally were taught with. I don't know, maybe I'm just gifted with anything that has a engine I guess.

And no, I was not implying that they catch up fast because of speed or the bike in question. Again you are reading something that is not there. I said our officers are like traffic ninja's as in they sneak up on you without being spotted. I even gave an example in noting an officer was using cars for cover as he snuck up on another vehicle. If he sped up on that car in this fashion he would have an issue with running into the other cars in traffic. So please, stop, just stop. You can't interpret sentences for ****. I'm writing plain and simple words here, not the Da vinci code.





Take note at the speed he is going. Now I am going to quote directly from my motorcycle handbook:

In normal turns, the rider and the motorcycle should lean together at the same angle.
In slow tight turns, counterbalance by leaning the motorcycle only and keeping your body straight.

What does this mean? The officer was taking slow tight turns, thus he counterbalanced. And then you change it up and say it would be dangerous to do on a sportbike when taking corners fast.

When taking corners fast....


Well no **** dummy, it would be dangerous to do that on any bike.

Look, if you want to carry on this bickering then PM me and I'll give you plenty of attention, but like the other guy said, let this thread be about just riding, not who's got the better bike.

You do know that your head can actually rotate around your neck so you can check your blind spot right?

Even in a 14 thousand pound box van I don't have any trouble checking my blind spot. I have never even come close to hitting a motorcyclist who wasn't otherwise riding like a giant *******.

Regardless of where the bike was, or how far in your blindspot he may have been, that was 100% your own fault for not checking said bind spot. The average biker is far more aware and safe on the road than the average cager.


You have eyes. Use them. A motorcycle is no harder to see than a smart car, but I don't see people crying about how they are "invisible" on the roads.

Listen. Read the posts between you and me. Really read them well, especially your posts and try to figure out who is taking it too personal here and who is not. I'll give you a hint: "You sure are sensitive, princess". You are the one getting all emotional with your snide comments. So lets just stop...

On the same note, upgrading to new bike, a sportbike question:
Going from a Ninja 250 (which I'm keeping for track), any recommendations on a 600cc for daily driver and weekend haulass?

I'm a bit of a Kawasaki fan. With reliability being more or less equal across the board it really boils down to ergo, esthetics, $$ and some top-end characteristics that majority of riders probably wouldn't notice.
So far the possible upgrades I have in mind are:
- 06-07 636
- 09+ zx6r

Another one I'm seriously considering is Daytona 675 for its slick profile, undertail exhaust, quick flick and smooth powerband. If I can actually find this bike used for sale. Any strong opinions one way or another?

I know nothing about sportbikes but I know the Ninja 650 has the helmet holding dohickey under the seat and looks pretty cool and is 600cc. Also affordable http://www.indomotorcycle.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/2011_Kawasaki_Ninja_650R_04.jpg

Well yes, but apparently I've also learned that you lack the ability to read, since my last post addressed this. You're an idiot.

On the same note, upgrading to new bike, a sportbike question:
Going from a Ninja 250 (which I'm keeping for track), any recommendations on a 600cc for daily driver and weekend haulass?

I'm a bit of a Kawasaki fan. With reliability being more or less equal across the board it really boils down to ergo, esthetics, $$ and some top-end characteristics that majority of riders probably wouldn't notice.
So far the possible upgrades I have in mind are:
- 06-07 636
- 09+ zx6r

Another one I'm seriously considering is Daytona 675 for its slick profile, undertail exhaust, quick flick and smooth powerband. If I can actually find this bike used for sale. Any strong opinions one way or another?

To be fair, I am not the one who almost ran over a biker and now has an irrational fear of motorcycles.

Irrational fear? I would just rather not get on something where, if one does get into an accident, one tends to lose bodily function in one form or another.

I would hardly call that irrational.

Then you should stay out of your car, and line your walls with mattresses. And never leave the house.

And employ armed guards.


There is a chance of severe injury in every facet of life. There are things which are far more dangerous than riding a motorcycle.

1990 harley fxts soft tail :) ...only rode once last sumer now breaks are stiking ..oh well

I use a Mospeada.

And I'm gonna kick your ass with it.

I ride a 2008 yamaha R6S.

it has a scrape on the lower left fairing now cuz when i was new i parked it on gravel and it fell over. lesson learned i guess.

wtb light cycle

http://www.bitrebels.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Real-Electrical-Tron-Light-Cycle-1.jpg

That's the electric version that was made and they did a good job with it. Another one was made before that with a gasoline engine which sounded like ****.

Battery
Combustion

My only issue is that it looks really uncomfortable to actually ride. Personally I'd rather go for this.

I'm a Tron dork so I would actually go buy the electric one just because it's awesome but I don't know where my massive balls would go on it .

That Dodge thing looks a little too Caldari for my likes...

Maybe if the front wheel were brought in just a little to make the handles reachable it'd be more considerable. As it is, it looks like the guy is stretching as far as he can just to reach the handles which really must make turning a *****, not to mention the stress on your arms after riding it for even 5 minutes.



/looks in mirror

Yeah it is damn sexy isn't it. But a true caldari bike would be uniform on the right side and the pistons on the left side would extend out 2 ft and a little wheel would be added somewhere.

I like my Mospeada more. Not even a Light Cycle can get cooler than a Mospeada.

In game channel "motorcycles". Do it.

Needs moar social.

Seems like Break.com is failing in general, can't click on any of the videos/pictures.

Here's another link

Checked it myself to make sure this one worked.

The eve forum software has trouble with some links, something to do with space separators I think.