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Cutie Chaser
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.02 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ashaz
After the first battle between pod pilots and classic crewed ships, the crewed ships were all rebuilt to use pods instead, cause without a podpilot they simply stod no chanse at all.
And as a side note, the rats are podpilots too.
So nice of you to give me the short version... but it appears an article linked earlier in this article would say your are... err... dead wrong.
"The night before battle always gave people the jitters, and this was worse than they'd ever faced. Regular pirate crews didn't usually pick fights with capsuleers - that task was best left to their factions' own small, elite cadre of pod pilots, or to the unlucky few assigned that duty as punishment - but for a mortal captain it was one of the best ways to win glory and respect in his organization. This particular capsuleer was considered a low-grade threat to their interests, an amateur at best, but an amateur capsuleer was still an incredibly dangerous creature. It was a secret surprisingly well-kept from the general public of the pirate factions that a head-to-head encounter with a capsuleer of even moderate talents was practically a death sentence."
That would be a quote straight from HERE
Seems to say that your information is not correct. Well, except the "Stand no chance at all" part. *** Thats a Templar, the amarr fighter. Its a combat drone used by carriers. |

Cutie Chaser
Gallente
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Abraxas
Originally by: Cutie Chaser a combat story told from a pod pilot's point of view might help me understand what my character experiences on some level
There's a couple of reasons I don't much get into that, though.
First, it's one of the favourite subjects for fan fiction writers to indulge in. Everyone has their own version of what happens inside the pod. If I start writing about it, and nail it into canon, it means that those versions are no longer valid.
Second, it's more of a subject for a scientific article than it is a story, and to be fair, I suspect that most people can imagine it with relative ease. You're floating around in a pod, your body wired up to controllers that give you pretty much the view you see on-screen. You can assume that anything happening on that screen, typing and clicking included, is a direct result of your brain deciding it and sending the appropriate messages to the ship's control systems: You are essentially willing it to happen, and it happens. I can write a scientific article about what happens where, and why you've got things like boosters, T2 modules and maximum speeds, but any story that directly relates the pod pilot experience is going to little more than, "It was dark and rather soggy. I had tubes sticking out of all sorts of places. Then a screen lit up, and I saw my ship floating in space, complete with the familiar icons and controls."
Third, the express nature of pod pilots hasn't really been established, in particular as regards their personalities. The ability for a human being to hook themselves up to their pod (after whatever rigorous training they underwent) and venture forth to murder uncountable numbers of people is something that I'll definitely look into at one point. That kind of thing interests me far more than the mechanics of being strapped into the pod.
Thank you for the straight-up explanation. *** Thats a Templar, the amarr fighter. Its a combat drone used by carriers. |

Sheriff Jones
Amarr Please Enter Password
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Posted - 2007.10.02 13:20:00 -
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Originally by: Ashaz Then the pod technology was introduced and one single pilot could manouver an entire ship with his mind alone. After the first battle between pod pilots and classic crewed ships, the crewed ships were all rebuilt to use pods instead, cause without a podpilot they simply stod no chanse at all.
Gods, not you people again with your "there's no crews" propaganda 
IT's been ebaten to death 10 thousand times, atleast, and it always ends in "ships have crews".
My opinions represent the opinions of my corporation completely. I'm the CEO damnit. |

Asestorian
Minmatar Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.10.02 14:48:00 -
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There are crews. That's a fact.
Pods only replaced the officers and those who operate the weaponry and the like, we still have thousands of maintenance crew keeping it all operational from the inside.
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Cyberman Mastermind
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Posted - 2007.10.02 18:09:00 -
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Edited by: Cyberman Mastermind on 02/10/2007 18:10:57 Edited by: Cyberman Mastermind on 02/10/2007 18:10:31 As for the rats - they're probably mixed. The highers sure have pods, but the low-ends not.
At least two(?) are mentioned in stories to have pods - Fatal and The Rabbit. (The former, I think, being podded, and having only a low-grade clone.)
Ship logs do talk about pods, yes. But one ship log also mentions that only the gang leader has a clone contract. Either the others don't have pods, or simply no cloning contract.
Fighters have humans in them as well, AFAIK. -------------------------------------------------- I'm a rich person. How I know? I can afford to be a miner. |

Matalino
Gallente Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.10.02 18:31:00 -
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Edited by: Matalino on 02/10/2007 18:31:30
Originally by: Cutie Chaser a combat story told from a pod pilot's point of view might help me understand what my character experiences on some level
Might I suggest Ruthless, The Vampire, The Vicious Cycle, Loser, and The Encounter as just a few "combat stories told from a pod pilot's point of view"
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Shalia Ripper
Caldari High4Life SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.02 18:33:00 -
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Originally by: The Ratfink she gets knifed in the head you sick sick people
You ruined it for me.
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Zacharie Le'Fromage
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Posted - 2007.10.02 20:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ashaz
Originally by: Cutie Chaser
Originally by: Ashaz
We don't. if you'd read the stories you complain about, you would know this.
But this has come up on the forums many times, and there is documentation claiming we do.
ok so let me give you a short explanation then, just to be nice. The ships used to have crews. HUGE crews. Then the pod technology was introduced and one single pilot could manouver an entire ship with his mind alone. After the first battle between pod pilots and classic crewed ships, the crewed ships were all rebuilt to use pods instead, cause without a podpilot they simply stod no chanse at all.
And as a side note, the rats are podpilots too. I love that shiplog about the guy spilling quafe in his pod liquid...
(With reservation for errors in case i remembered anythign wrong )
You are wrong.
Hands of a killer - This chronicle is about a pod pilot hiring crew for his Apoc. And then mentions how thousands died when said apoc was destroyed. There are also many chronicles in EON that mention crew in pod-piloted ships - One is even told from a crewman's perspective.
Summer Breeze - This is told from a Pirate captain's point of view as he engages a pod pilot. It clearly shows that most rats are, in fact, not pod pilots.
Pods did decrease crew requirements by quite a bit - There's no longer any chain of command, all crew receive orders directly from the Pod. You still need, however, someone to unjam that jammed autocannon, someone to say "SHE CANNAE TAKE ANYMORE CAP'N" when you overcharge your afterburner, etc etc.
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Josiah Majere
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Posted - 2007.10.02 21:05:00 -
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I agree with the OP that having the picture on the main page seems like a bad call. I got really annoyed with the Eve Chron ads for the "torture methods" series. They were plastered all over the main page for months.
Let me sum up my feelings this way:
1. I get enough sick and senseless violence in RL just from the news media. I play EVE in part to interact with people from around the world and to at least temporarily forget how messed up the world we share really is.
2. From a marketing standpoint, what good does it do for the image of the game and CCP to be potraying this type of sexualized violence? Don't we WANT more female gamers to play EVE? Don't things like this hurt that goal?
Thanks for letting me rant.
-JM
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Semkhet
KR0M The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.10.02 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Josiah Majere I agree with the OP that having the picture on the main page seems like a bad call. I got really annoyed with the Eve Chron ads for the "torture methods" series. They were plastered all over the main page for months.
Let me sum up my feelings this way:
1. I get enough sick and senseless violence in RL just from the news media. I play EVE in part to interact with people from around the world and to at least temporarily forget how messed up the world we share really is.
2. From a marketing standpoint, what good does it do for the image of the game and CCP to be potraying this type of sexualized violence? Don't we WANT more female gamers to play EVE? Don't things like this hurt that goal?
Thanks for letting me rant.
-JM
Dude, you have no idea how many ladies like to be either submissive or dominant, some are both, and are therefore classed as "switch". Bondage is just another added spice in the game. Yes, G A M E S.
Or are you from the kind which finds more offensive to see boobies than grey matter splattered over a wall ?
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Iconath
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.10.02 23:56:00 -
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Edited by: Iconath on 03/10/2007 00:00:15
Okay folks here is the deal. The very first story everyone should read is The Jovian Wetgrave It tells the origin of PODs.
Hands of a Killer proves that there is a crew onboard.
From there I leave it to you all to figure things out. Good Luck!
Originally by: Oveur And indeed, there will be beer 
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Duckeye
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Posted - 2007.10.03 06:19:00 -
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Edited by: Duckeye on 03/10/2007 06:20:51 Maybe this is more to your liking cutie...
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=6776879
*fixed broken link*
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