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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 00:03:00 -
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Nice bit of infighting from Fatal Alliance chat!
Nice to see Fatal Revs show their true arrogant elitism!
Fatal Alliance as a whole I wholly respect. However Fatal Revelations I despise what do you guys think?
Captain Budwieser > what will bob y and mc think of you now? Pusher Bott > we left two towers in d4 and eq for razor Dorah Hawkwing > as we seem to disaper.. maybe: wf where they# gone? Pusher Bott > Good thing BoB and MC have already been in talks with those of us deserving of them and have been given ideas and suggestions. Pat Bello > cowards who decided to surrender? that is what BOB and MC would think Gordon Reiss > i still dont know who made that decision.... Psychic Sue > we definitely didn't turn in any of the towers from any system other than the 3 station ones Pusher Bott > We didn't turn in any towers and we had them all out of the system the next day. LEXER > what room in TS is gang in in aunnen? Pusher Bott > Like I said, if razor wanna fight about it they can come to Aunenen. Pusher Bott > Fatal corp's chan Psychic Sue > that was NOT part of the agreement, and for not being able to turn in the ones in d4r and eqi when we weren't given the command other than
keeping the jump bridges online Promithius > there not goign to aununnen Promithius > there going to d4r and eqi to kill anyoen that did not manage to sneek there stuff out Akov Stohs > unless you have a very braver carrier pilot Pusher Bott > they are too busy anchoring the towers you gave them? Captain Budwieser > so why is the prom being prevented from setting standings ? Neves Cibek > can you log kg please and check d4r at all? StealthRavenx > How many Minmatar does it take to change a lightbulb? Akov Stohs > *shrug* Akov Stohs > talk to gunny Akov Stohs > he removed every ones rights in the holding corp Promithius > dont try and make me out as the traitor here ferax Captain Budwieser > will he be reimbursing people that get shot by blueS? Pusher Bott > who said anything about being a traitor? Pusher Bott > No? Promithius > i dont enjoy that i had to make the decision Pusher Bott > Good. Dorah Hawkwing > and it was a vote, afaik, so ask your coe how he voted. Promithius > but it is becaue of you that ukc jsut lost those 3 freighters Pusher Bott > I am the ******* ceo Pusher Bott > so no it wasnt a ceo vote Pusher Bott > it was a whoever was ******* online vote Akov Stohs > it was becayse of you, and them that we lost 3 outposts Akov Stohs > and yes Akov Stohs > it wasn't ceos Akov Stohs > it was 2 ceos Akov Stohs > and the rest of directors Akov Stohs > from at total of 6 corps StealthRavenx > drama Akov Stohs > of the 12 Pusher Bott > No Prom, we had nothing to do with UCK's losses Promithius > im not goign to hav an argument guys Dorah Hawkwing > It was done by whever could decide, and it#s done.. can we maybe now concentrate on teh fight, (I don't mean the internal one) Pusher Bott > They were told they were being cargo scanned and they returned fire when the frieghters were scamed and locked down for the scan. Promithius > if you had stuck to the terms of the arangment then razor would not be so ****ed Splade > aye Promithius > dont mae it out liek that Splade > what he said Pusher Bott > That is what lost them, so go **** yourself with a knife you***** smoking *******. Promithius > and you hold so dearly to your reputation Splade > meh this is why no one likes fatal corp Akov Stohs > prom Splade > not alliance Splade > CORP StealthRavenx > Jesus guys, whats done is done, and we can't change it, chill the **** out Akov Stohs > what did you promise them from your corp? Akov Stohs > NOTHING Akov Stohs > thanks Promithius > my towers mate Akov Stohs > what did you promise them from fatal rev Promithius > all my towers Pusher Bott > what towers? Promithius > same as eveyoen else Akov Stohs > 60NB isk Pusher Bott > WHAT TOWERS Splade > akov = acock Promithius > spalde leave it Splade > sorry i love a good bicthing
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 00:03:00 -
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Promithius > ples guys im more than happt to talk Splade > i'm only playing with ya guys Promithius > but its not neceserry to reduce ourselfs to this level Akov Stohs > SUBA risked 0->100mil in the surrender Dorah Hawkwing > calm down folks, please Pusher Bott > what about stutting the **** up? You happy to do that too? Galdoth > time u did mate Akov Stohs > fatal risked ->30-60Billion isk Splade > we risked a lil more than that Pusher Bott > your ******* mouth has done plenty in the last 72 hours. Promithius > i dont want a slander patch Akov Stohs > thats what prom promised razor splade Pusher Bott > 60b in just TOWERS Promithius > but your reputation wont last if you keep this up guys Pusher Bott > **** off IceTea > Akov could you tell them Mpire at the nonni gate that minostis is a friendly, he's blue to fatal but probably not to Mpire since they shot him to
pieces earlier. Akov Stohs > its already destroyed Splade > the yhave no reputation IceTea > I'm assuling you're in gng with them Promithius > well all your doign now is ensuring youa labeld as childish Pusher Bott > **** off prom Pusher Bott > and get the **** out of the chat channel Promithius > thats the second time you have said that , its wholey unneccesery Captain Budwieser > swear more it makes me think you got a rep Pusher Bott > **** off prom Akov Stohs > 3rd Promithius > keep them coming Promithius > iv got time to waste ColwirthMB > someone hit the disband button Promithius > cant Promithius > gunship removed my roles :) Pusher Bott > no prom, you _are_ a waste of time Dorah Hawkwing > .. /mute pusher Bot Akov Stohs > sure you can Pusher Bott > leave the alliance, it's instant Akov Stohs > theres a "corp leave alliance button" Promithius > im not goign to give you the satisfactin im afraid Promithius > you shal suffer my polite conversation untill the alliance is forcefully disbanded Pusher Bott > then ill get omaha to do it for me in about 5 hours Akov Stohs > /emote shrugs Promithius > he cant ither :) gunny removed his roles too :) Promithius > its a shame , cos i love you guys realy Akov Stohs > Prom Akov Stohs > you are a great guy Akov Stohs > have no problems with you Promithius > ferax seems to :( Akov Stohs > think you made a ton of ****** up decisions Akov Stohs > The decision to surrender should not of been made when it was Akov Stohs > it should of been delayed as ice and my self demanded
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 00:08:00 -
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For the record I posted this without the knowledge or consent of my CEO or other alliance members. My views about the attitude of many of the members of Fatal in general have been very public of late. I must add that all other member corps of the alliance including Fatal Inquisition have my full support and I wish them the best for the future.
It was an honor to fly with most of you and I thoroughly enjoyed the experience. Its just a shame how it ended so sourly.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 00:13:00 -
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The main reason for this post was to highlight the lack of honor and integrity that Fatal Revelations has shown to the NAP that was agreed by the Alliance leaders present during the final hours.
It has come to my attention that they have ran off with freighters carrying a cargo of Faction control towers that were part of the surrender agreement.
Because of this and because fatal revs ran off with these POS. The standings were reset and UKC lost 3 freighters in the back lash that followed.
Hows that for honor?
And yes I do mean to post this with this character. Only game after all and why use an alt?
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: Camber Tremodian Well done for posting with your main. Are you leaving the alliance/corp though?
I am posting my own opinions and not those of my corp. Because of that I apologized to my CEO and although he has every faith in me. Prom knows my reasons for posting what I did I have told him that if at any point my being in corp hampers their future, I will leave without question.
Fatal Alliance however was in the stage of being killed off at the time of posting.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.03 14:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sebo Darrens
Originally by: Harry Colorado
Originally by: Sebo Darrens I love the angry speculation..
Fatal Rev Corp had 1 large POS in each of the station systems.. did Razor receive all but 2 large POS in the deal? I know UKC had a lot more, and consequently had a lot more to turn over, so if Rzr/MM were suspicious, that would be a good reason why.
I don't know what your position in FATAL Rev is or was but you better would have double checked your Information before posting here.
This is definitely not correct.
I'm the guy that put up half the POS in D4R and EQI.
Half of one? Hows that work
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Splade on 04/10/2007 01:24:02
Originally by: Akov Stohs Have to say pretty openly that Fatal still has 2 large towers up and running. Which are running the cyno gens every one was using to escape with. Those where to be taken down the last day and handed over. Thats what was told to Fatal.
The 60bn isk consists of the 6 Large Faction Towers, Fully armed with Faction Weapons, along with all the niceness. Included was the 2 months of fuel for all of our pos we kept stock piled. We were told to hand over, by people post hense. Were also told that the dozens of small towers we had anchored and fueled should of been turned over as well. It was also hinted that our capital building equipment and non-sov equipment needed to be handed over. Which in this list, none was going to be handed over.
So yea, we were told 2 towers, two towers remain. Not going to hand them over now that we'll get shot of course.
To be honest what you miss is that UKC lost their freighters, and the first thing that was posted was that it was the fault of Fatal Rev, and that we had back stabbed UKC. My response included the fact that UKC had stated that they would not fight if invasion came to d4r. Would not commit people or ships to the defense of D4r. So yes, that has made people extremely bitter.
As for splade, my opinion of him is simple. He was Not there in ym-, not there in v7mid, nor in bkg. Never once picking up arms to defend what he speaks of. Never standing beside his fellow alliance members. Never saw him on an op, or in Ts. Not once, ever.
As for the accusations of Fatal Rev and that station services. A lot of the settings on the stations are based on standings. As the alliance standings where changed prepping to desolve the alliance it caused havoc with alliance members trying to access certain services. Every time it was brought up, it was changed immediately to resolve the issue. For instance, refining has always been set at 100%, its your standings that made it free. When the standings changed the side effect was that your refine rates went up, as did your docking fees, and pretty much everything else. When this was discovered we made the change and returned everything to normal. Even apologized for the issue, and returned minerals and isk to people that met with the problems.
I know I am going to get flamed, and I am stupid for trying to be rational. But there you have it none the less.
p.s. The Aunenen Joke is something that has been around for a long time. and its just that, a joke. Sort of like saying, if you have a problem meet me by the swing set after school.
Sorry to disappoint you Mr Akov. I was in YM- and somehow managed to survive massive lag unscathed while at the same time being unable to load the grid, and ended up dieing in a pos bubbles to glitchers.
I was also in BKG, but sadly as I was one of the few pilots to turn up in a Battleship I spent the fight in a pos listening to FCs order lights and mediums into combat while I sat waiting. Very boring indeed.
You have me at one point though. I didn't go to V7.
Anyhow take yourself back to aunenen and kill some more pods, only about another 20 odd and you hit 100.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 10:43:00 -
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Edited by: Splade on 04/10/2007 10:44:15
Originally by: Space Harrier
Originally by: Harry Colorado I said that I will not risk the UKC cap ships
Why though? I don't get it, this is your HOME system you are talking about, and to say that you won't help other alliance corps to defend it before you have even been invaded is hardly getting things off to a good start is it.
I've seen this too many times in the past with UKC, they have a big corp, a lot of active people and have a lot of pompous corp meetings... But when action is called for it all kinda goes a little flat.
At the time of surrender we had lost our M.Pire support to their surrender. We retreated to our home systems and gathered at a POS to assess numbers and combat effectiveness.
We then rallied for more pilots to join the gang and fight with us to defend D4R. None came. ( ok i exaggerate, about 3/4 came)
With a gang of just over 30. We would have been fighting nearly 300 enemies.
The bottom line is everyone wanted to fight, whether they want to admit it or not. However they knew it was a battle that would never be won. The station would have been bubbled to hell. The pos would have been bubbled and cyno jammers destroyed. Our combat capabilities would have been stretched thin within a couple of hours.
With that in mind a meeting was called as Razor diplomats had contacted Prom. As such he called a ceo/director meeting with the alliance leadership on hand during the battle.
The decision was made by the people on the field.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:05:00 -
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Originally by: Einheriar Glad
Quote: The decision was made by the people on the field.
No it was not ... the M guys start to see red becoming blue. The FATAL guys fighting did not have clue what was going on.
and our UKC FC decided to burn though to D4R for a final last stand.
- Glad
It was. Any directors and ceo's joined the meeting (or were asked to). Several of which were in the gang and knew the current situation in D4R.
M,Pire and the Razor gang turning blue had nothing to do with it, our decision was made about 2-3 hours later.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Akov Stohs
As for the accusations of Fatal Rev and that station services. A lot of the settings on the stations are based on standings. As the alliance standings where changed prepping to desolve the alliance it caused havoc with alliance members trying to access certain services. Every time it was brought up, it was changed immediately to resolve the issue. For instance, refining has always been set at 100%, its your standings that made it free. When the standings changed the side effect was that your refine rates went up, as did your docking fees, and pretty much everything else. When this was discovered we made the change and returned everything to normal. Even apologized for the issue, and returned minerals and isk to people that met with the problems.
Is that why you deliberately set UKC and Subach to -10? It is my understanding that station services are set by CORP standings not ALLIANCE standings. The alterations of the alliance had no effect on the services.
The loss of station services was due to you guys shutting us out.
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Splade
Amarr Subach-Tech FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.10.04 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zoot Zoot i dont post on here much. this just caught my eye. i wont make some bold statement for people to flame because i cba with the hassel. on the night of the surrender i was the FC, the 3 battleships i had in my 66 man fleet i wasnt gonna give up easily so lights and mediums where used *answer to splades statement bout being bored*
No offense meant by my confession of boredom Zoot. Your FC'ing that night was exemplary with what you had available. Just boring for us BS pilots waiting for targets.
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